Trump's trade war...
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Started by cliff-e - Aug. 8, 2018, 5:10 p.m.
By mcfarm - Aug. 8, 2018, 5:44 p.m.
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wow cnn has traveled back and forth across the Midwest just hoping an praying to find farmers ready to jump off the train. They have not. They found salt of the earth types ready to win not whine

By cliff-e - Aug. 8, 2018, 8:15 p.m.
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We attended Farmfest in Redwood County Mn. today and saw about 20% fewer vendors and 30% less attendees. Vendors and commodity reps. both told us interest in buying has slowed to a near standstill. The rural economy definitely not winning around here.

By cfdr - Aug. 8, 2018, 8:24 p.m.
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So, do you really want to continue to send billions of dollars to China - every year - so that they can pour our own money into South America and now Africa - to compete with us in agriculture?  So that they need to buy less and less from us in the future?  In other areas, do you want to send those massive amounts of money to China so that they can buy our companies and steal our intellectual property?

Where do you think this road leads to??

We finally have a president who understands this - and is willing to try to do something about it before it is too late.  We don't just have a worthless politician in the Oval Office now.  Or worse than that - a known pay-for-play politician in that office.

Sorry, but this is not one of those issues that are complex.  This is an issue that is really, really simple.

By TimNew - Aug. 9, 2018, 3:41 a.m.
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Well you see CFDR,  there are some who appear to prefer a foreign policy approach where we bribe and beg despotic dictators as they ramp up their arms programs and become more and more powerful while also begging and pleading with foreign producers as they grab more market share, largely with money they have gotten from us in unbalanced trade deals.  Things only change for the worse slowly, almost imperceptibly,  but steadily. Some liken this to a frog in a pot of water slowly heated to a boil.

The irony is that most of these folks are called "progressives" and their opposition is labeled as "conservative".

By cliff-e - Aug. 9, 2018, 8:07 a.m.
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By TimNew - Aug. 9, 2018, 9:06 a.m.
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There are risks in doing something,   and there is little to no risk in doing nothing.  We're pretty sure how that will eventually turn out. So,  do you prefer a slow descent or a risky short term future with great potential?

By cfdr - Aug. 9, 2018, 9:28 a.m.
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I've said this before, but it doesn't seem to ever sink in.

Think about all of the seemingly insurmountable problems we have.  Ignore the problem of China seeking to become the world power - both financially and militarily. They say themselves where they want to go - we don't have to guess.  They want to return to where China was a world power after being walked on for so many years in recent history.  If we don't bury our heads in the sand, we know what that means for us.

But, think about pensions.  Also medicare, medicaid - health care in general that threatens to bankrupt us.  Pensions alone are a ticking time bomb.  If you think there is disagreement today, wait until this hits the fan.  Pensions need higher interest rates to survive.  The only way this is possible is a return to a growing economy, and that means a return to quality jobs here in the US.  Who is working hard toward this goal?  Our president, of course - is it possible to argue this??  Who is representing the working middle class?  The Democrats?  They gave up on the working middle class.  The establishment Republicans?  Do you think the Koch brothers care about the working man?  They hate Donald Trump - is there any more that needs to be said?

It's very simple - if our president fails, we have no hope on these matters.  And, from what we see, he is the only hope we have.

Again, I don't have to like many all the traits the president has - but I'm able to recognize the abilities he has in spite of that.  There is no one else who has the potential to actually make a difference here.