Putin on Greta Thunberg
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Started by GunterK - Oct. 2, 2019, 12:27 p.m.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/putin-shames-greta-thunberg-and-her-handlers-over-environmental-agenda

Go, Mr. Putin !

I watched Greta address various government bodies. She always reads from a script. One time, it was time for reporters to ask her questions. She couldn't answer any of them

Who are her handlers? Who writes her scripts? As it turns out, she is handled and financed by a group called ONE, founded by none other than Mr. Soros. Now, things are falling into place.



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By metmike - Oct. 2, 2019, 11:22 p.m.
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Gunter,

I am grateful that Greta reveals how anti scientific, extreme and desperate that one side has become but sad for her.

 The ones putting on this charade couldn't have made it more clear that they take their targets for absolute, naive, ignorant fools and the contrast between them and people like me could not have been made bigger. 

You will note, on this topic here that I provide alot of data, lots and lots and lots of data, graphs, authentic science. Way more than most have the time to analyze or read over. Some of it may be a bit more scientific or complicated to understand than what you will get from most sources.

But my assumption is that, I respect the readers intelligence enough so that I believe many can understand ALL of it and everyone is capable of understanding almost off of it........if they want to. 

So I am treating everyone reading here as intelligent adults...........no tricks or made up/fake stuff or attempts to persuade using children/emotions, no dishonesty, not disingenuous(with sincere, altruistic motivation to pass on the truth  and educate/enlighten/enrich knowledge in minds because it benefits those that are my targets-everybody).  I gain nothing personally except knowing I am generously sharing  a source of powerful information that very few people have access to..........at the same time, a venue like this to share it. 

But then you take this charade involving Greta that represents everything I am against. 

First off, they are trying to trick people using an intelligence insulting scheme and 16 year old child.  Since she spoke before  Congress.......and the United Nations, it goes to show you that our government leaders think of people as nimrods that are easy to manipulate using ridiculous ploys/marketing schemes. 

Secondly, I have been chess coach to 3,000 children during the past 24 years. Actions that show that I enrich the minds of young adults with actions in the real world.

I coached youth sports, taught religious education and have been an adult leader in Boy Scouts for 20 years. 

The other side? They poison the minds of our youth with junk science. They are scaring the crap out of them, convincing them that they will have no future because the climate crisis is destroying the planet........in the midst of a climate OPTIMUM and the best weather/climate in the last 1,000 years as well as having rescued the planet from dangerously low levels of the beneficial gas, CO2.

With Greta, they show how low they will go. This is blatant child abuse and extreme progressive activist adults using a child for their bogus political agenda. 

She could be enjoying a normal childhood back home in Sweden.  Going to school, hanging out with friends, maybe even playing chess in a chess club like the ones that I coach at 5 schools right now.

Certainly, getting a well rounded education that included authentic science.

Instead, look what they turned her into. Maybe those caught up in the climate religious cult, see her, as a high priest and somebody to look up too. 

Since I know the truth ............what a waste of a childs life to do great harm to people getting her fraudulent message. 

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/39525/

By metmike - Oct. 4, 2019, 3:39 p.m.
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Whoever thought that Putin would be lecturing US democrats in congress and the United Nations on child abuse. Wow..........and he's exactly right.


https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/10/04/putin-dismisses-climate-messiah-greta-thunberg-poorly-informed-teenager/


From Putin:

“I may disappoint you but I do not share everyone’s enthusiasm about Greta Thunberg’s speech [to the UN]. You know, the fact that young people, teenagers pay attention to the acute problems of the modern world, including ecology. That is right and very good. We need to support them. But when somebody uses children and teenagers in their own interests it deserves to be condemned."

Nobody explained to Greta that the modern world is complicated, and complex, and it changes fast. People in Africa and in many Asian countries want to be as wealthy as people in Sweden. How can it be done? By making them use solar energy which is plentiful in Africa? Has anyone explained the cost of it?”

metmike: The first comment at the link above has a creative death metal music video(that actually is funny) that I choose not to provide the link to because of my feelings that this child has been abused enough.

By metmike - Oct. 5, 2019, 1:21 p.m.
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Climate Crusader Greta Thunberg Tipped to Win Nobel Peace Prize

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/10/05/climate-crusader-greta-thunberg-tipped-to-win-nobel-peace-prize/


metmike: Wouldn't surprise me a bit.  Al Gore and the IPCC got the Nobel Peace Prize in 2007 for telling us about all the horrible things that didn't happen since then........including the plight of the polar bears, who's population has increased since then on this greening planet during this climate optimum.

In 2007, because the Arctic sea ice was melting, their marketing scheme  to sell the science snake oil was to use the polar bear as the climate crisis mascot!

State of the Polar Bear Report 2018: Polar bears continue to thrive

https://polarbearscience.com/2019/02/


And fossil fuel use has only increased faster.


On to the next "save the planet" marketing scheme. Since the polar bears refused to cooperate last time(instead of dying they flourished),  they are using(abusing) a child and children.


 Take a child/Greta (and commit child abuse)....having her memorize a bunch of anti science, complete lies about our greening planet as we continue with the best weather and climate in the last 1,000 years.........have  the democrats and United Nations put her up on a pedastal and make her a key speaker and  the new high priest in the climate crisis cult.

Then, pretend that she is saving the planet, just like Al Gore/IPCC didn't do in 2007 by awarding her the Nobel Peace Prize.

That was 12 years ago and we DID save the planet since then.

By completely ignoring what they told us had to be done about CO2.

Carbon Dioxide Fertilization Greening Earth, Study Finds

                         

From a quarter to half of Earth’s vegetated lands has shown significant greening over the last 35 years largely due to rising levels of atmospheric carbon dioxide, according to a new study published in the journal Nature Climate Change on April 25.

An international team of 32 authors from 24 institutions in eight countries led the effort, which involved using satellite data from NASA’s Moderate Resolution Imaging Spectrometer and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration’s Advanced Very High Resolution Radiometer instruments to help determine the leaf area index, or amount of leaf cover, over the planet’s vegetated regions. The greening represents an increase in leaves on plants and trees equivalent in area to two times the continental United States.

globe of Earth from North Pole perspectiveThis image shows the change in leaf area across the globe from 1982-2015.




By metmike - Oct. 5, 2019, 1:25 p.m.
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They've been feeding us this bs for 30 years now and have been wrong for 30 years.

U.N. Predicts Disaster if Global Warming Not Checked

PETER JAMES SPIELMANN June 29, 1989

   UNITED NATIONS (AP) _ A senior U.N. environmental official says entire nations could be wiped off the face of the Earth by rising sea levels if the global warming trend is not reversed by the year 2000. 

   Coastal flooding and crop failures would create an exodus of ″eco- refugees,′ ′ threatening political chaos, said Noel Brown, director of the New York office of the U.N. Environment Program, or UNEP. 

   He said governments have a 10-year window of opportunity to solve the greenhouse effect before it goes beyond human control. 

   As the warming melts polar icecaps, ocean levels will rise by up to three feet, enough to cover the Maldives and other flat island nations, Brown told The Associated Press in an interview on Wednesday. 

   Coastal regions will be inundated; one-sixth of Bangladesh could be flooded, displacing a fourth of its 90 million people. A fifth of Egypt’s arable land in the Nile Delta would be flooded, cutting off its food supply, according to a joint UNEP and U.S. Environmental Protection Agency study. 

   ″Ecological refugees will become a major concern, and what’s worse is you may find that people can move to drier ground, but the soils and the natural resources may not support life. Africa doesn’t have to worry about land, but would you want to live in the Sahara?″ he said. 

   UNEP estimates it would cost the United States at least $100 billion to protect its east coast alone. 

   Shifting climate patterns would bring back 1930s Dust Bowl conditions to Canadian and U.S. wheatlands, while the Soviet Union could reap bumper crops if it adapts its agriculture in time, according to a study by UNEP and the International Institute for Applied Systems Analysis. 

   Excess carbon dioxide is pouring into the atmosphere because of humanity’s use of fossil fuels and burning of rain forests, the study says. The atmosphere is retaining more heat than it radiates, much like a greenhouse. 

   The most conservative scientific estimate that the Earth’s temperature will rise 1 to 7 degrees in the next 30 years, said Brown. 

   The difference may seem slight, he said, but the planet is only 9 degrees warmer now than during the 8,000-year Ice Age that ended 10,000 years ago. 

   Brown said if the warming trend continues, ″the question is will we be able to reverse the process in time? We say that within the next 10 years, given the present loads that the atmosphere has to bear, we have an opportunity to start the stabilizing process.″ 

   He said even the most conservative scientists ″already tell us there’s nothing we can do now to stop a ... change″ of about 3 degrees. 

   ″Anything beyond that, and we have to start thinking about the significant rise of the sea levels ... we can expect more ferocious storms, hurricanes, wind shear, dust erosion.″ 

   He said there is time to act, but there is no time to waste. 

   UNEP is working toward forming a scientific plan of action by the end of 1990, and the adoption of a global climate treaty by 1992. In May, delegates from 103 nations met in Nairobi, Kenya - where UNEP is based - and decided to open negotiations on the treaty next year. 

   Nations will be asked to reduce the use of fossil fuels, cut the emission of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases such as methane and fluorocarbons

By metmike - Oct. 5, 2019, 1:30 p.m.
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This is my favorite prediction by them in 1989:

"Shifting climate patterns would bring back 1930s Dust Bowl conditions"

Let's see how close their prediction came.


Let's go back to the 1930's in the USA for an extreme version of the OLD climate and what they claimed was going to return:


https://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/10/14/nasa-study-finds-1934-had-worst-drought-of-last-thousand-years/

The map below is the drought index in 1934. This was one of the worst times during a drought that lasted for much of that decade. It was not permanent climate change and more of a freak weather phenomena. Human's poor farming strategies in those days did make things worse but today's climate change makes a drought lasting that long much LESS likely to happen.

Can you imagine if we had this going on today? This is what they claimed would happen.



Brown colors of the PDSI indicate strong drought conditions across the U.S., in summer of 1934.


 It would absolutely be seen as the affects of human caused climate change............and I do believe there has been man made climate change, which is why the Cornbelt and your crops have been treated to the longest stretch of drought free conditions in recorded history.

Only 1 major, widespread drought in the Cornbelt from 1988 to 2019(2012).......over 3 decades, when the average historically was over 1/decade(if you throw out the 1930's as an aberration.

Instead of having the average 3 major droughts in the Cornbelt over the last 30 years, during (so called catastrophic) human caused climate change, there has only been 1.........along with the increasing CO2 causing yields to go up 25% from atmospheric fertilization because of the proven law of photosynthesis.

The exact opposite happened vs what they said would happen.


Here's what temperatures were like during the Dust Bowl 1930's  with regards to heat waves. Compare that to recent heat waves on the graph below. 


  • Line graph showing values of the U.S. Heat Wave Index for each year from 1895 to 2015.

                                    


By metmike - Oct. 5, 2019, 1:32 p.m.
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Let's look at soybean  and corn yields below(they were supposed to plunge because of the adversity of hot/dry weather.

Picture is worth 1,000 words:


https://www.nass.usda.gov/Charts_and_Maps/Field_Crops/soyyld.php


Soybeans: Yield by Year, US


There obviously are other contributing factors with genetics and farming technology (+75%) but the +CO2 and weather(+25%) have been a big plus.

With Corn, it's a different picture because of the  introduction of nitrogen fertilizer causing corn yields to triple real fast and not as much to do with CO2 or weather during that initial tripling. However, recent decades have featured a steady increase, along with a steady increase in CO2 and beneficial weather.

http://crazyeddiethemotie.blogspot.com/2014/10/corn-questions-from-food-inc-worksheet.html



By metmike - Oct. 11, 2019, 12:17 p.m.
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Greta Thunberg Snubbed for Nobel Peace Prize by Committee Run by Norway, One of the World's Biggest Oil and Natural Gas Exporters

https://www.newsweek.com/greta-thunberg-snubbed-nobel-peace-prize-norway-natural-gas-exporter-1464587?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter&utm_campaign=NewsweekTwitter

"Over the last year, she has (among other things) led a Global Climate Strike spanning 150 countries, graced the cover of Time Magazine as a 'Next Generation Leader' and sailed across the Atlantic Ocean in a yacht to speak to lawmakers in Washington and New York."

Previous links with Greta:

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/39525/

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/40665/



1`. Now they(you can count on Newsweek and Time to be all in on it too) are trying to frame this to mean she got robbed of her deserving Nobel Peace Prize  because the evil fossil fuel industry intervened.  What makes this comical is that the extremely liberal committee had awarded fraudulent, Al Gore the Nobel Peace Prize in 2007 for making junk science more popular than climate science. 

2. In 2007, we all remember Gore, successfully using the threatened  polar bear as the global warming mascot. However, in the following decade, polar bear numbers increased with decreasing ice, falsifying his insistence that it would be the opposite. Out with the polar bear, in with a new snake oil scheme to sell the fake crisis.......Hello Greta!

Maybe, instead of the evil gas and oil companies somehow having an influence on the Nobel Peace prize for the first time in history.......the committee got burned so bad with Gore's failed predictions  and a few of the members resorted to critical thinking related to how ludicrous this new scheme is....they didn't want to be embarrassed.