Anti-Trump Whistleblower Colluded With House Democrats
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Started by metmike - Oct. 3, 2019, 11:15 p.m.

BREAKING: Anti-Trump Whistleblower Colluded With House Democrats Before Filing Complaint

"An anti-Trump whistleblower at the center of ongoing Democratic efforts to impeach President Donald Trump coordinated with Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif., and his Democratic staff prior to filing his whistleblower complaint, The New York Times reported on Wednesday afternoon. The bombshell report that the whistleblower and his Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) colleagues actively worked exclusively with congressional Democrats before filing the complaint raises serious questions about whether the complainant followed federal laws providing whistleblower protections for employees within the U.S. intelligence community.

“Before going to Congress, the C.I.A. officer had a colleague convey his accusations to the agency’s top lawyer,” The New York Times reported. “Concerned about how that avenue for airing his allegations was unfolding, the officer then approached a House Intelligence Committee aide, alerting him to the accusation against Mr. Trump.”

The New York Times noted that the anti-Trump complainant only notified the committee’s Democrats of his allegations.

“The whistle-blower’s decision to offer what amounted to an early warning to the intelligence committee’s Democrats is also sure to thrust Mr. Schiff even more forcefully into the center of the controversy,” The New York Times wrote.

Under federal law, whistleblowers within the intelligence community are required to report any allegations of wrongdoing to the Intelligence Community Inspector General (ICIG) in order to receive statutory whistleblower protections for their disclosures. The law does not provide any protections to employees or contractors who bypass the process required by law and go directly to Congress, nor does it provide any avenue to disclose classified information to Congress without first going through the ICIG. If the complainant or a colleague leaked classified information to Schiff or his committee, those individuals could be subject to criminal liability for illegal and unauthorized disclosure of classified information."

By metmike - Oct. 3, 2019, 11:17 p.m.
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Trump Whistleblower Is Registered Democrat: Report

"The whistleblower who filed a complaint against President Trump that now forms the center of an impeachment inquiry against him is a registered Democrat, according to a report from CNN.

That fact was reported by inspector general for the intelligence community Michael Atkinson as an “arguable political bias on the part” of the whistleblower.

However, Atkinson also wrote in a report on the whistleblower that “such evidence did not change my determination that the complaint relating to the urgent concern ‘appears credible.'”

By metmike - Oct. 3, 2019, 11:23 p.m.
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Previous discussions on this:

                Pelosie demands impeachment                        

                36 responses |              

                Started by wglassfo - Sept. 24, 2019, 7:35 p.m.    

Oops he did it again

                First it was the it's China            

                            Started by GunterK - Oct. 3, 2019, 1:18 p.m.    

                The Ukraine fallout            

                            Started by GunterK - Oct. 3, 2019, 2:13 p.m.    

By WxFollower - Oct. 3, 2019, 11:25 p.m.
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The Federalist is a solidly right biased source:

By metmike - Oct. 3, 2019, 11:39 p.m.
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Yes, exactly Larry, just like Trump is a republican too.

And the MSM outside of Fox and sources like the federalist are also  mostly democrats, half of which are progressive activists. The intelligence community is also part of the swamp/deep state committed to destroying Trump(Mueller report and origins of its start and blatant bias prove that).

Note no investigation of Biden and Trump has a 2.5 year investigation for something he did not do. 

I'm guessing that the 2 sources that I used the most in the past were CNN and the NYT but it has often been to show points/stories that I feel are examples of biased  and even unprofessional journalism..............along with my evidence to show why.

That is not the case with this one as it appears to be authentic information despite being a source that reports things with a bias to one side. 

By metmike - Oct. 4, 2019, 2:01 a.m.
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The politics could not be more clear.

H.clinton got an obvious free pass for numerous crimes because of her party.

Then trump got spied on ,framed and  investigated for 2.5 years and dragged thru the mud while being innocent because he is the enemy of that party.

Then we find out the very suspicious circumstances surrounding Biden and his son that are much worse than anything that trump did  by a wide margin if true.....and he gets a free pass because of his party.

Instead it’s trump that’s the target again for, ironically trying to get an investigation going  into real crimes of somebody from the protected party....because he opposes them.

By mcfarm - Oct. 4, 2019, 9:48 a.m.
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It really makes you wonder if there is a single democrat left in America in the old tradition of democrats. Is there one single democrat who will stand and fight this sleaze in the swamp of DC?

By metmike - Oct. 4, 2019, 10:30 a.m.
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The latest from CNN:

Trump promised Xi US silence on Hong Kong democracy protests as trade talks stalled

"(CNN)During a private phone call in June, President Donald Trump promised Chinese President Xi Jinpingthat the US would remain quiet on pro-democracy protests in Hong Kongwhile trade talks continued, two sources familiar with the call tell CNN. 

The remarkable pledge to the Chinese leader is a dramatic departure from decades of US support for human rights in China and shows just how eager Trump is to strike a deal with Beijing as the trade war weighs on the US economy. 

And like other calls with the leaders of Ukraine, Russia and Saudi Arabia, records of Trump's call with Xi were moved to a highly-classified, codeword-protected system, greatly limiting the number of administration officials who were aware of the conversation. 

Trump's commitment to China had immediate and far-reaching effects throughout the US government as the President's message was sent far and wide.

In June, the State Department told then-US general counsel in Hong Kong, Kurt Tong, to cancel a planned speech on the protests in Washington because the President had promised Xi no one from the administration would talk about the issue. "

By metmike - Oct. 4, 2019, 10:54 a.m.
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But it was ok for Biden to tell us "they're not bad folks"

                Joe Biden on China            


                Started by metmike - May 2, 2019, 11:22 a.m.    

And it's ok for Sanders to say this about China:

Sanders praises China's leadership in interview

           by           Joseph Simonson          

                     | August 27, 2019 

"They're a country that vigorously protects their own interests," the Vermont senator said in an interview with The Hill. "But what we have to say about China, in fairness to China and its leadership, is if I'm not mistaken, they have made more progress in addressing extreme poverty than any country in the history of civilization, okay? So they've done a lot of things for their people."

metmike: The hypocrisy and obvious targeting of one side and giving the other side a free pass is playing out every day in every way.......and the powerful evidence is everywhere............but you have to look for it because the MSM is covering it up.

Before becoming moderator, I didn't follow politics very closely. After taking over, I felt obligated to doing research on every topic if I was going to comment on it(that almost no Americans-including me before this- would do).

But here is the crux. The  MSM, which is the source of most peoples information is telling us the spin that these progressive activists(half of them ARE progressive activists and why would we think progressive activists in real life would provide objective reporting of the news on the job-in fact, many of them went into journalism/news BECAUSE they are progressive activists and want to have an influence in the field that allows them to do that) want us to believe.

                HiddenTribes: America’s Polarized Landscape    

Who has time or motivation to dig deeper? Their narrative is forming the opinions. I'm just passing on to you what I have found(as the objective scientist) in my research in trying to understand what is really going on right now.

By gfn - Oct. 4, 2019, 12:14 p.m.
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Beg hostile governments to influence or elections.

Nuff said

By GunterK - Oct. 4, 2019, 12:17 p.m.
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from the CNN comment you quoted (in reference to not getting involved in the HK protest):

"The remarkable pledge to the Chinese leader is a dramatic departure from decades of US support for human rights in China and shows just how eager Trump is to strike a deal with Beijing as the trade war weighs on the US economy. "

Well, thank you Mr. President for putting the interests of the American people ahead of other countries' problems.


"..And like other calls with the leaders of Ukraine, Russia and Saudi Arabia, records of Trump's call with Xi were moved to a highly-classified, codeword-protected system,..."

Oh, oh.... what if Congress subpoenas these computers?

Sledgehammer time?

No, can't do that.... we have to follow that other set of rules and laws.

By metmike - Oct. 4, 2019, 1:13 p.m.
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You have not responded to my post from yesterday. 

The right response is required if you want to survive your 4th? warning.

Please respond by the end of the day today. If I don't hear back from you by midnight, gfn will be like Cinderella and transform .................from a poster to a lurker. You can contact me via contact moderator that you are all too familiar with if that's preferable. 



Re: Ah you mean like the objectivity you showed

                By metmike - Oct. 3, 2019, 10:56 a.m.            


"I suppose I should figure out how to post link so I could ne like so many on here that post opinion pieces as facts  in hope of getting people to buy into their line of thought."


You have the record here for mischaracterizing statements and misinterpreting which is why I often question if you actually read my posts before you respond but, I think that you actually do and have already decided in your head what you will think before reading them.

For the umpteenth time, my requests for you to post sources and links is NOT for opinion posts but for data to support your posts/statements involving things like government statistics........which is what we like to see on the TRADING forum. 

Like Tim does.

If you are unable to do so for whatever reason, that's one thing but instead, pretending that I'm asking for something entirely different about opinions about a  belief system tells me that you continue to be  disengenous. 

It's ok for you to have the extreme political bias, I welcome well thought out political views(in the NTR section) but PLEASE try to use well defined and repeated(for you at least) protocol, which includes responding to the request in my posts, not the ones that you make up in your head......because of your challenge to view topics objectively. 

thanks in advance




                Ah you mean like the objectivity you showed            


                By gfn - Oct. 3, 2019, 12:57 p.m.            


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When the whistleblower story broke and you decided and posted the the whistleblower HATED TRUMP with out any facts, and even worse you did not only not know the whistleblower  as a person you didn't even know his/her  NAME.


                                 By metmike - Oct. 3, 2019, 1:05 p.m.            


We separated the forum's because trading people and market focused mentalities were so turned off by the political hatred and battles......that you insist on inserting here up in the trading section.

This is the trading forum. 

You can't just come here and defy our rules with impunity and numerous warnings. This will be your last one. Next infraction and you spend time in the penalty box.

edit: Actually, I was being too generous in that statement above because you had already received similar warnings and not learned a lick but I gave you additional chances.

So I will give you another opportunity to indicate that you will start following the same rules as everybody else on the trading forum. 

If your response veers at all from justifying your behavior again, to be fair to others here, you will have to just be a reader, not a poster for awhile. 


By TimNew - Oct. 4, 2019, 1:24 p.m.
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Beg hostile governments to influence or elections.

This is the narrative the left really needs to push, and people who don't know better, or are willfully ignorant,  buy right into it.

Aside from the fact that I strongly question the Ukraine as a hostile government, no one begged anyone to influence "or" (I'm sure he meant Our) elections..   There is highly suspicious activity involved and we deserve some answers.  The fact that one of the targets of the investigation is vying for the position of "Commander in chief" makes those answers even more important...

By mcfarm - Oct. 4, 2019, 4:07 p.m.
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I guess we are not allowed to know just how easy this country could slide right into socialism, hell or communism for God's sake, if we only ignore all theses small little errors in judgment out elite dems keep making.  And just quit asking uncomfortable questions.