Weather Thursday
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Started by metmike - Nov. 7, 2019, 10:52 a.m.

Greetings November 7th!   Smile and say hello to some real people today.  Then think about how lucky you are to be living in this era of plenty in human history!

 Scroll down and  enjoy the latest comprehensive weather to the max...... occurring because of the natural physical laws in our atmosphere as life on this greening planet continues to enjoy the best weather/climate in at least 1,000 years(the last time that it was this warm) with the added bonus of  extra beneficial CO2.


Quiet but very chilly/cold weather now.  Cold becomes less extreme in week 2!  Detailed analysis  at the end of this weather thread.

Winter Weather Forecasts

https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/wwd/winter_wx.shtml

 
Here are the latest hazards across the country.



Purple/Pink/blue on land is cold/Winter weather. Brown is wind,  Green is flooding. Gray is fog.  Reddish is a red flag advisory.  

Go to the link below, then hit the location/county on the map for details.

                          https://www.spc.noaa.gov/  Go to "hazards"                                                                                     

                   

 


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By metmike - Nov. 7, 2019, 10:53 a.m.
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Highs for days 3-7:


New blast of mid Winter type cold, especially northcentral to Northeast!!!!

Moderating late week 1.


http://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/medr/DAY3_MAX_filled.gif

https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/medr/DAY4_MAX_filled.gif

http://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/medr/DAY5_MAX_filled.gifhttp://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/medr/DAY6_MAX_filled.gif

                                    

https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/medr/DAY7_MAX_filled.gif

                                    

By metmike - Nov. 7, 2019, 10:53 a.m.
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Temperatures vs average for days 3-7.  


BIG Blues dominate. Reds in the West.


https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/medr/medr_mean.shtml


http://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/medr/hpcmaxwbg.gif


https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/medr/95Bwbg.gif

                                    

By metmike - Nov. 7, 2019, 10:54 a.m.
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Weather maps for days 3-7 below


Quiet with Cold, Arctic high pressure and reinforcing cold fronts under a ridge west, trough east couplet aloft.  Moderating later.

https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/medr/5dayfcst_wbg_conus.gif

                                    

By metmike - Nov. 7, 2019, 11:16 a.m.
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Liquid equivalent precip forecasts for the next 7 days are below.


Mostly  dry pattern for the Midwest.


Day 1 below:

http://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/qpf/fill_94qwbg.gif?1526306199054

http://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/qpf/fill_94qwbg.gif?1531339983148

Day 2 below:

http://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/qpf/fill_98qwbg.gif?1528293750112


http://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/qpf/fill_98qwbg.gif?1531340045174


Day 3 below

http://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/qpf/fill_99qwbg.gif?1528293842764

http://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/qpf/fill_99qwbg.gif?1531340092706



Days 4-5 below:

http://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/qpf/95ep48iwbg_fill.gif?1526306162

http://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/qpf/95ep48iwbg_fill.gif?1531339379

 Days 6-7 below:

http://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/qpf/97ep48iwbg_fill.gif?1526306162

http://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/qpf/97ep48iwbg_fill.gif?1531339379

7 Day Total precipitation below:

https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/qpf/p168i.gif?1566925971


https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/qpf/p168i.gif?1566925971

                                    

By metmike - Nov. 7, 2019, 11:18 a.m.
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Last 24 hour precip top map

Last 7 day precip below that

https://www.wunderground.com/maps/precipitation/daily

By metmike - Nov. 7, 2019, 11:19 a.m.
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Current Dew Points


Current Dew Points

                                    

Latest radar loop


http://www.nws.noaa.gov/radar_tab.php

Doppler Radar National Mosaic Loop

                       


 

Upper Mississippi Valley sector loop

  


 (3400x1700 pixels - 2.2mb)
Go to: Most Recent Image

      

Central Great Lakes sector loop
Go to: Most Recent Image

                                  

    You can go to this link to see precipitation totals from recent time periods:


https://water.weather.gov/precip/


                              Go to precipitation, then scroll down to pick a time frame. Hit states to get the borders to see locations better. Under products, you can hit "observed" or "Percent of normal"      

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Precipitation compared to average for the last 7, 14, 30 and 60 days. 

Some spots in Iowa and especially N/C Illinois have dried out!


Usually not updated for previous day until late the next day.

https://www.atmos.illinois.edu/~snodgrss/Ag_Wx.html

By metmike - Nov. 7, 2019, 11:23 a.m.
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Latest: The first map below is the latest. The 2nd one is from last week.

In july/August/Sept/Oct, it's typical to see some increase in drought because of  evaporation, seasonally exceeding low rainfall during those months. However, this year saw a HUGE increase in the Southeast!

November 7: TOP MAP SHOWS DROUGHT DECREASED a great deal from recent robust rains.


The maps below are updated on Thursdays.


      https://droughtmonitor.unl.edu/      

               

                                 

Drought Monitor for conus

                                        

  • Drought Monitor for conus


By metmike - Nov. 7, 2019, 11:27 a.m.
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The top map is the Canadian ensemble average,  the maps below are the individual members that make up the average at the end of week 2.

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Each member is like the parent, Canadian model operational model.......with a slight tweek/variation in parameters. Since we know the equations to represent the physics of the atmosphere in the models are not perfect, its useful to vary some of the equations that are uncertain(can make a difference) to see if it effects the outcome and how.

The average of all these variations(ensembles) often yields a better tool for forecasting. It's always more consistent. The individual operational model, like each individual ensemble member can vary greatly from run to run.........and represent an extreme end of the spectrum at times. The ensemble average of all the members, because it averages the extremes.............from opposite ends of the spectrum.........changes much less from run to run.

End of week 2....................0z  Canadian ensembles:

360h GZ 500 forecast valid on Nov 22, 2019 00 UTC

GZ 500 forecastGZ 500 forecastGZ 500 forecastGZ 500 forecast

Forecasts for the control (GEM 0) and the 20 ensemble members (global model not available)

By metmike - Nov. 7, 2019, 11:33 a.m.
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0Z GFS(American model) Ensembles at 2 weeks:

http://mp1.met.psu.edu/~fxg1/ENSHGT_0z/f360.gif

                                    

By metmike - Nov. 7, 2019, 11:35 a.m.
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GFS Ensemble mean(average of all the individual solutions above).  The first map is a mid/upper level map. The 2nd one is a temperatures map at around 1 mile above the surface. These are anomalies(difference compared to average).

NCEP Ensemble t = 360 hour forecast

Wednesday:  Extreme -AO continues. However, the high latitude upper level high pressure system responsible for this cold dynamic is reforming on the other side of the North Pole late in week 2. This will cause the coldest air in the high latitudes to be aimed towards N.Asia vs North America.  It's still a cold pattern here but just doesn't have the COLDEST air any more.........if these models verify. 

Thursday: Still looks like the cold will moderate a great deal, see bottom of this thread.


            


NCEP Ensemble t = 360 hour forecast producthttps://www.esrl.noaa.gov/psd/map/images/ens/t850anom_f360_nhbg.gif

                                    

By metmike - Nov. 7, 2019, 11:35 a.m.
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Latest, updated graph/forecast for AO and NAO here, including an explanation of how to interpret them...............mainly where they stand at the end of 2 weeks.

Previous analysis, with the latest day at the bottom for late week 2 period.

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/t

Saturday: the big player is the solidly negative AO. This is resulting in cold surges dropping from high latitudes                               Across Canada aimed at the US.  With a near zero NAO and Near zero PNA, the push deeply south may not be completely maximized but cold blasts will be crossing the northern border and effecting the northern half. This will be seen with an active northern stream with periodic perturbations that dig strongly south in the flow and amplify  The models have had an impossible time forecasting these entities recently.....usually under predicting them but the model to model changes have been enormous in both directions. The northern stream is in fact tougher to forecast historically. A competing, milder southern branch of the jet with mild , dried out oceanic air is trying to exert its influence pushing from west to east.

At times, the models think that this feature will warm up much of the country, possibly even defining a new pattern.......then surprise! Another chunk of northern stream energy shows up dropping south thru Canada which quickly replaces any warmth along the northern stream.

Additionally a ridge west, weakening trough east couplet is favorable for air masses to have a southern component in movement which gives the northern stream more power to intercept air masses coming from the west, trying to push east....and failing

I’ve been expecting a milder pattern in week 2 now for a week but until the AO increases more, cold surprises on week 2 models could continue.

What is most likely is that the West will warm up. How Far East the warmth can go is in question. Maybe in mid november it will finally be able to do that more....if the -AO lets 


Sunday: Forecast philosophy is unchanged from yesterday.

Monday: Extreme negative values of AO going forward.......some members have it bouncing higher at the end of 2 weeks. High latitude upper level high pressure which is part of this may be shifting to the other side of the North Pole. That could mark a pattern change to milder with more zonal flow but the models have been wrong about this for the last 10 days or so when they showed a moderation.

Wednesday:  Extreme -AO continues. However, the high latitude upper level high pressure system responsible for this cold dynamic is reforming on the other side of the North Pole late in week 2. This will cause the coldest air in the high latitudes to be aimed towards N.Asia vs North America.  It's still a cold pattern here but just doesn't have the COLDEST air any more.........if these models verify. 


            

By metmike - Nov. 7, 2019, 11:36 a.m.
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National Weather Service 6-10 day, 8-14 day outlooks.

 Updated daily just after 2pm Central.


Temperature Probability


6 to 10 Day Outlook - Temperature Probability Precipitation Probability


  6 to 10 Day Outlook - Precipitation Probability


  


the 8-14 day outlooks
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Temperature Probability

8 to 14 Day Outlook - Temperature Probability
8 to 14 Day Outlook - Precipitation Probability

                                    

By metmike - Nov. 7, 2019, 11:36 a.m.
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https://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/predictions/threats/temp_probhazards_d8_14_contours.png

                                    


By metmike - Nov. 7, 2019, 11:39 a.m.
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Previous posts:

The EURO Ensembles show a classic cross polar flow next week. If this were late December or early January many areas would flirt with all time record lows. What you are seeing in this 500mb heights compared to average. Heights are well above average into eastern Russia and that sends the jet stream from Siberia straight down into the Ohio Valley. This set up usually produces extreme cold. So Monday through Wednesday of next week looks very cold for many. I expect numerous record lows with a few all time record low temps for November, which is very impressive for it being the first half of the month. 

                                    


                

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                By metmike - Nov. 6, 2019, 6:53 p.m.            

            

It really is amazing Grant. Thanks for the map.

My thinking is that the target for this extreme cold will be shifting to the other side of the N. Hemisphere in week 2.

It's still a chilly pattern but the connection with the coldest air in the highest latitudes will be disrupted on this side of the North Pole as that coldest air goes the other way to N.Asia. .............if the model solution below (0z GFS Ensemble mean anamoly) is on the right track.

The first map is the upper level heights, 2nd one is temperatures at around 1 mile above the surface. The time frame, 360 hours is the end of 2 weeks.


NCEP Ensemble t = 360 hour forecast producthttps://www.esrl.noaa.gov/psd/map/images/ens/t850anom_f360_nhbg.gif

                                    

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               By metmike - Nov. 6, 2019, 7:03 p.m.            

            

Here are those same 2 maps in 5 days, at the time frame you referenced.

Look at the huge difference. The top map shows the solid/unbroken positive anomaly going up the entire West Coast of North America and all the way up to Siberia as you noted, on the front side of that we have a deep, cut off Polar Vortex low that has plunged to a center just north of the Great Lakes. 

That massive ridge west, trough east couplet is maximizing the cross polar flow originating from Siberia that is continuing south, crossing all of Canada with north to south steering currents, then diving deeply into the US, thanks to the upper level low position. This is the Polar Vortex displaced unusually far south. 

The previous page which is day 14, shows that has shifted to the other side of the North Pole with no extension/connection from south to north like we have now.

https://www.esrl.noaa.gov/psd/map/images/ens/z500anom_f120_nhbg.gif




https://www.esrl.noaa.gov/psd/map/images/ens/t850anom_f120_nhbg.gif



Here are the maps again for the end of week 2 to help visualize the big changes, especially for the top-500 mb maps. 

Note below, the separation between the big yellow/orange anomaly on the other side of the North Pole and the very weak one along the West Coast. The Siberian express connection is broken!


The Polar Vortex low has been replaced with a weak upper level trough in the Midwest.

For the US, this is still a ridge/west, trough east couplet which often means below normal temperatures but the magnitude of the cold will be modest compared to the brand we see in several days. 


Actually, looking closer at this pattern from doing the current analysis, I think that it could flush out much of the cold in Canada and Canada may have MUCH above temperatures, starting late in week 2.

So there will still be cold fronts in week 2 and beyond with this pattern but they will not have major cold with just slightly below average temperatures when the Canadian air gets here. 


NCEP Ensemble t = 360 hour forecast producthttps://www.esrl.noaa.gov/psd/map/images/ens/t850anom_f360_nhbg.gif

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By metmike - Nov. 7, 2019, 11:44 a.m.
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A few spots in the northwestern Corn Belt and northern Plains below zero for lows this morning...close to 30 degrees below normal 

And an even colder air mass arrives for early next week

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