another twist of the impeachment issue
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Started by GunterK - Dec. 17, 2019, 2:39 p.m.

Rep. Debbie Mucarsel-Powell, D-Fla.,sits on the House Judiciary Committee, the committee that drafted the articles of impeachment against President Donald Trump

Her husband has received money from Ukrainian oligarchs. Conflict of interest, maybe???

Ah well...nothing to see here...move on

https://thefederalist.com/2019/12/16/ukrainian-oligarch-paid-700000-to-the-husband-of-a-house-judiciary-committee-democrat/

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By metmike - Dec. 17, 2019, 3:39 p.m.
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Thanks Gunter,

Not sure how relevant that is but can you imagine if somebody related to Trump did that, what the news coverage would be?


The charges against Trump used for impeachment have been continually changing.

 For 2 years we heard "Colluding with Russia! Colluding with Russia!" Impeach Trump! .......then it was proved that he did not collude with Russia.

Then we heard "obstruction of the investigation, obstruction of justice!" Impeach Trump.  Then they had Mueller testify in perusing that and it backfired with the guy looking very incompetent and providing zero evidence that Trump did anything wrong.........and as we have found out, it was the actual investigation of Trump that did all the wrong things.

Then we heard "quid pro quo" quid pro quo" Impeach Trump! and for numerous weeks were told with false narratives that the dems were getting bombshell testimony with the smoking gun evidence of quid pro quo. Here's one of hundreds of examples:


'A real bombshell': Democrats seize on Sondland's quid pro quo charges                           

House Democrats say their impeachment inquiry just got a huge boost.

https://www.politico.com/news/2019/11/20/real-bombshell-gordon-sondland-testimony-quid-pro-quo-072084

Finally, we are getting down to the impeachment vote. The charges, "abuse of power and obstructing Congress"


WTHeck. What happened to quid pro quo? What happened to bribery?(whoops, there never was any) What happened to obstructing Muellers investigation? (whoops) What happened to colluding with Russia(whoops).

Here is the deal. The dems were set on impeaching Trump from the get go.........not based on impeachable offenses but using the best that they can manufacture at the time based on continually changing the goal posts and rules in order to come up with something..........anything that they think sounds good and can stick.

Since they dropped the other charges and accusations from earlier, some mentioned above,  which they had insisted were rock solid impeachable offenses......after realizing they were wrong or didn't have evidence and not one time did they acknowledge this, why would we now, suddenly believe these very weak charges based on flimsy evidence?

The obstructing Congress part is laughable. What was Trump supposed to do, try to help them to convict him over a phone call that he thinks is totally innocent?

Abuse of power. Wow, they are accusing him of exactly what they are doing but they are 10 times worse. 


By mcfarm - Dec. 17, 2019, 5:37 p.m.
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not only that MM and Gunter, today the dems actually demanded more witnesses in the senate. Big Problem there dems, might want to read the constitution sometime or another. The house gathers info and writes the articles of impeachment. The senate has a trial and uses what the house has gathered. What a cluster these dems are