Health Care Cost
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Started by wglassfo - Jan. 20, 2020, 4:28 p.m.

Do you think the pubs can offer a better solution to health care than the Dems

I know what most of the leading Dems are offering

I have not heard very much from the Pubs

Health Care cost could influence a lot of voters

A greasy pig may be better than no pig

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By bear - Jan. 20, 2020, 4:51 p.m.
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i really prefer  NO system, instead of a very bad system.  

By bear - Jan. 20, 2020, 4:59 p.m.
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the most important way to keep costs under control,  is for me to have the right to NOT buy insurance.  if i can pay the doctor directly,  (and bypass the middle man),  then the insurance company has less pricing power.  

i have bees, and produce honey.  i would love to have a law that says everyone Must buy honey.  every beekeeper  could keep raising the price of honey 30% every year,  and you would still have to buy it.  (whether you think it is a good deal or not).  

the ACA is nothing but a corporate handout to insurance companies, and pharmacies, and hospitals.  and we all have to pay much higher prices to fund it.  

By metmike - Jan. 20, 2020, 10:36 p.m.
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It's a racket for sure.

The US pays  3 times as much for everything than other developed countries with excellent medical care pay.

You can thank our politicians for allowing it to happen and they want to blame the health care companies...........WRONG.

Health care companies must pay the high cost for medical care and drugs too, which are the main costs that you pay them. 

Politicians don't want to bite the hand that feeds/BRIBES them. The system is completely broken from corruption. 

There is no health care system that will work or be affordable until all costs are at least cut half for drugs, hospitals and doctors. Nobody is even seriously discussing actions that would cause that, so it ain't gonna happen. 

President Trump is trying to lower drug prices but this will not be nearly enough.


My belief is that the government stepping in and fixing prices much lower, like it does medicare/medicade is our only chance but it seems impossible to think that hospitals and doctors would accept big cuts in their massive profits/income.......so the system will remain very broken.

And of course politicians don't want to give up the generous donations they get from those entities meant to bribe them legally with lobby money to NOT take actions to lower costs. 


                Corruption causing our health care system to collapse            

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                Started by metmike - Oct. 16, 2019, 12:05 p.m.         

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/41122/

   


By metmike - Jan. 20, 2020, 10:57 p.m.
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Making buying health insurance mandatory and charging a penalty for not buying it was counterproductive as you say.

If we were starting from scratch, it could work based on setting affordable prices, in line with the rest of the world.

However, the system right now is well entrenched with dynamics in place for so long, including major price gouging and all the entities who control it that are being enriched that its seems almost impossible to imagine how this will be fixed.

Making it even less likely to be fixed is that the politicians have done a great job convincing everybody that the health INSURANCE  industry is  causing most  of it..........taking the heat off of them for the real reason.

Neither parties health care system and not one elected officials plan can ever come close to working because they don't force the cost of medical care and drugs to plunge to a level similar to other countries. 

The fact that all the other countries are using a completely different, much cheaper pricing structure for the same medical care and medicines and it works for them, tells us that this is the solution. 

Good luck getting our corrupt, self serving politicians and government to completely overhaul the pricing structure here and cause the profits of the pharmaceutical companies and medical entities that bribe them to plunge.

Doctors, especially specialists would no longer practice with alot less in medical school. Billions less spent on building new hospitals and other investments because the industry would have suddenly have to be frugal with its money vs having massive profits in most years. 



By bear - Jan. 25, 2020, 10:30 p.m.
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another example...  birth control pills that were 30 bucks back in 2007, are 140 bucks today.  

a person has to buy insurance, and insurance is required to pay for the pills.  so the company that makes the pills can just keep raising the price a LOT year after year.  

if the pills were available over the counter (no prescription), then it would cost not much more than a bottle of tylenol.  

less govt intrusion in the market and the pills would cost 20 bucks per month.  

more govt intrusion in the market and it cost 140 bucks.  

yet, some citizens are naive enough to want more govt intrusion in health care.  

By TimNew - Jan. 26, 2020, 7:48 a.m.
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One clarification MM.The politicians have not allowed healthcare costs to skyrocket. For the most part,they have caused it.