There has to be a reason to riot
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Started by wglassfo - June 2, 2020, 9:23 p.m.

I can understand to some extent the riots in the USA

Although I do not agree, in the strongest possible way I can express, with violence or criminal actions, there is a reason some riot in the streets of the USA, given recent frustrations

But what the heck is the reason to have global riots ??. 

What does all this global thing, mean to you and me. Our country [Canada] is protesting, Some in the EU are protesting. Where else will we see riots and why. Is this just an excuse to get in on the looting and free stuff??

Do these people in other countries even know why they are in the street??? Did they hear about somebody by the name of Flloyd got killed by a cop and so they say "hey let's get our own riot" ?? Everybody else is rioting and looting. Why not join in the fun???

Are people in general just fed up with inequality and want an excuse to fight back. Sort of even the score with those who are always taking from the little people, giving orders. Do these people see people in power as some kind of bully.  Or: Are people in general just fed up with the system and see this as a way to give the finger to those in power

There has to be more than just Flloyd, given the global riots and looting. Was Flloyd just the excuse that threw a lit match on gasoline. Certainly, we are seeing the criminal element suddenly take advantage of the situation, but there must be more to this global situation.

I have just thrown out a lot of ideas as I think this has become much more than just Flloyd

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By metmike - June 3, 2020, 2:06 a.m.
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There is much more to it Wayne as you suspect. 

Peaceful protesting for racial justice is a wonderful thing. Using the murder of Floyd as a symbol for doing this is a good thing. 

But there are people using this to create chaos. Who are they, what do they want?

Some of them want to destroy capitalism. They are Socialists/Marxists. Greta the teenage climate high priestess is one of them. The Climate Accord has nothing to do with and will never have any affect on climate. It's entirely about creating and moving towards global socialism with the United Nations as the leader. The United Nations is almost entirely behind Greta. Her adult handlers have direct connections to the UN.  You didn't think that some 16 year old from nowhere could arrange walking into the United Nations last Fall and talk to 190 countries around the world on her own did you?  Or speaking to the US House(arranged by the extreme, socialist democrats).

This is huge. Capitalism must go ASAP for them, which makes President Trump (Mr. Capitalism) their mortal enemy. 

Antifa is one of those groups:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifa_(United_States)

"The antifa (/ænˈtfə, ˈæntiˌfɑː/)[1] movement in the United States is a militant, predominantly left-wing, anti-fascist political activist movement[7][12] that comprises autonomous activist groups that aim to achieve their political objectives through the use of direct action rather than through policy reform.[13][14][15][16] Activists engage in varied protest tactics, including digital activism, property damage, and physical violence and harassment against those whom they identify as fascist, racist, or on the far-right.[22]

Individuals involved in the movement tend to hold anti-authoritarian and anti-capitalist views[23] and subscribe to a range of left-wing ideologies such as anarchism, communism, Marxism, social democracy and socialism.[24][31] Both the name antifa and the logo with two flags representing anarchism and communism are derived from the German Antifa movement."

metmike: Sadly, they are gaining strength and I think will win out. They are brainwashing the youth from an early age. Using Greta is a brilliant scheme as she has recruited many millions of young people into her fake climate crisis cult.  

Here's another example:

"The September 2019 climate strikes, also known as the Global Week for Future, were a series of international strikes and protests to demand action be taken to address climate change, which took place from 20–27 September. The strikes' key dates were 20 September, which was three days before the United Nations Climate Summit, and 27 September.[3][4] The protests took place across 4,500 locations in 150 countries.[5][6] The event is a part of the school strike for climate movement, inspired by Swedish climate activist Greta Thunberg.[7][8] The Guardian reported that roughly 6 million people participated in the events,[1] whilst 350.org—a group that organised many of the protests—claim that 7.6 million people participated."

metmike: People thought/think that these protests were about a climate crisis..........but we are having a climate optimum! There is no climate crisis! People are being tricked and they are really supporting global socialism. The UN, Antifa and these gatekeepers designing the schemes believe that we MUST obliterate capitalism by whatever means possible. The Green New Deal here in the US is all about that.

 Fossil fuels are the life blood of every developed countries economy. Cheap, reliable, abundant and power packed energy. Cut those off and you destroy capitalism. You cause developed countries to contract and consume less natural resources. This is what their goal is. 

By wglassfo - June 3, 2020, 12:09 p.m.
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SO:  As of now the globalist/socialist movement is causing increased tensions in the USA because the USA just happened to already be in a state of rioting and civil disobedience, so they joined in and made things worse.

That makes a lot of sense

As you posted long ago, the climate accord wanted a huge transfer of wealth from the USA to other parts of the country with china getting a pass and paying nothing. Did you say china would actually receive money or is my memory bad???

It looks as if this Flloyd thing is an excuse to destroy the USA or severely weaken the country

I don't think Trump will allow total destruction, but when all things Trump are bad it makes his position very hard, plus the USA does have a huge GDP, which helps Trump. But if the Dems win the WH then things will certainly change

Also: if people like Greta can talk to the next generation, and socialism gradually gains more followers

Then death by a 1000 cuts comes to mind

By metmike - June 3, 2020, 1:40 p.m.
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Your memory is solid on this Wayne.

China the biggest beneficial CO2 emitter and India a huge emitter are both considered "Developing" countries in the Accord, so they don't have to make the same cuts that the "Developed" countries do.

Money flows from the Developed countries to the Developing countries under the ruse of "climate reparations" to compensate the Developing countries for the climate that the Developed countries supposedly ruined. 

And especially to assist them with the expensive adaptations that they need to make because of the consequences from the climate crisis that the Developed countries caused. 

Since we are having a climate optimum on this greening planet for most of life and the benefits from increasing CO2 outweigh the negatives by 10 fold, its ludicrous to claim the complete opposite............unless that's not really your objective.

Clearly, their plan is a great one for accomplishing one thing.............a strong move towards global socialism.......spreading the wealth and establishing a more equitable balance of resources around the world.

But they could not do this by selling it with the truth. Rich(people) countries will not willingly give up their wealth and cut back on their over consumption of natural resources because "it's the right thing to do" or "because being altruistic is more important than enjoying the current quality of life they enjoy"

However, you do get everybody's attention when you scare the heck out of them, making them believe that we are destroying the planet if we don't act immediately.

So they have to be tricked into acting, using the climate crisis scheme!


But the UN/Gate Keepers have been saying the exact same thing the past 3+ decades and have been wrong the entire time.


U.N. Predicts Disaster if Global Warming Not Checked

PETER JAMES SPIELMANN  June 29, 1989

https://apnews.com/bd45c372caf118ec99964ea547880cd0


Funny thing is that I strongly support the main part of their objective..........rich countries absolutely should be giving MUCH, MUCH more to poor countries/people. There are billions of people on this planet that are MUCH less fortunate than us because we just got lucky..........being blessed where we were born, along with having the right parents, education, job opportunities and so on.

But, to steal on of Greta;s expressions......"How dare they" hijack climate science and  sell a fake reality, telling people lies and exaggerations about my field of expertise......atmospheric science, making people dumber....... and fighting my effort to educate people with authentic science and the truth.

Usually, when you have a just cause, using the truth to sell it works best because people will embrace the truth and the cause.

They have a just cause but are using a huge lie to sell it.............and are upset that nothing has been done, substantive actions have not been taken in 40 years of screaming "climate wolf"  "climate wolf"  "climate wolf"

You know why?

Even if people "think" there is a climate crisis based on what they hear constantly from the Gate Keepers and MSM, they KNOW from living on this planet, in the back of their mind or intuitively, that if there really was a climate crisis, we would actually be seeing some really bad things happening that are NOT happening.

It's hard to convince somebody that really bad things are happening, to the point of motivating them to completely change their comfortable life styles,  when the weather/climate over the last 40 years has been the best in the last 1,000 years for life on this planet.