more fake corona info here
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Started by mcfarm - Sept. 6, 2020, 7:54 p.m.   talk about a cluster and do we want these people in charge of mail in voting?????   don't hardly think so

By metmike - Sept. 6, 2020, 8:43 p.m.
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"According to the CDC, only 6% of deaths originally reported as caused by Coronavirus were deaths exclusively caused by Coronavirus. As Dr. Bukacek warned Montanans from the beginning, the rest of the deaths attributed to COVID-19 were in cases in which patients tested positive, but who had other underlying health conditions that actually caused their death."

No..... this is a misunderstanding a misinterpretation of the cause of death based on the report.

Here's where they get this from:

New CDC report shows 94% of COVID-19 deaths in US had contributing conditions

"The CDC explains that their data uses provisional death counts to “deliver the most complete and accurate picture of lives lost to COVID-19.” 


 These numbers are based on death certificates, which the organization says are the most reliable source of data. Death certificates reportedly contain information that is not available anywhere else and includes comorbid conditions, race and ethnicity, and place of death."

metmike: We already knew that COVID was killing already sick people, those with underlying health conditions, compromised immune systems, mostly the elderly which have those conditions.

This is telling us that 6% of the COVID deaths came from people that were very healthy before they got infected with COVID. 

It's not saying that the rest died from something else.......their condition and just happened to have COVID. Almost all of the other deaths were from people that were more vulnerable because of their medical health condition. 

I'll explain something else on the next page.

By mcfarm - Sept. 7, 2020, 8:04 a.m.
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yes, so in other words, most everyone who died either was killed by idiots like Cuomo, or the cause of death was a fatal illness and they just happened to have corona.

By metmike - Sept. 7, 2020, 8:19 a.m.
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No mcfarm, I’ll explain it better when back at my computer later today.

Everybody that dies from aids dies from some other condition because aids weakened or destroyed their immune system.

We could make the same assumption that you are and say that almost nobody dies from aids.

They all die from the cancer or pnumonia hitch goe on the death certificate.

When these vulnerable people died from the flu I believe it was listed similar to the way that we list it with COVID.

By mcfarm - Sept. 7, 2020, 8:41 a.m.
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oh I get that MM and if you remember the facts I presented about Fauci and aids you could easily connect the dots to him being responsible for thousands of deaths

By mcfarm - Sept. 7, 2020, 9:37 a.m.
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Somber Corn Pop @shawnsbrain66
It’s just a mask.
It’s just six feet.
It’s just two weeks.
It’s just non-essential businesses.
It’s just non-essential workers.
It’s just a bar.
It’s just a restaurant.
It’s just to keep from overwhelming the hospitals.
It’s just until the cases go down.
It’s just to flatten the curve.
It’s just a few inmates.
It’s just to keep others from being scared.
It’s just for a few more weeks.
It’s just church. You could still pray.
It’s just prayer.
It’s just until we get a vaccine.

isn't it odd that all this would just go away if the mayors, governors, legislatures, and Fauci all got skipped at the pay window?

By GunterK - Sept. 7, 2020, 11:50 a.m.
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According to this report, the death toll of 160,000 (today it’s 189,000) was reduced to 9,683. This is a quite significant discrepancy!

Thank you, metmike, for pointing out the intricate details of counting corona deaths, when severe underlying health conditions are present. However, these details make our grasp of the severity of this pandemic even more nebulous.

During the early stages of Covid19, I remember reading a document issued by one state’s Health Department, addressed to hospital doctors. It advised them to count a death in their hospital as a Covid19 death, whether Covid19 was the cause or not.

Later, several doctors testified that they had been pressured by their superiors to do the same (their videos have been removed).

We also learned that a hospital is paid from federal resources, when a Covid19 death happens on their watch. With other causes of death, they have to deal with insurance companies and/or the victim’s family. The amount paid by federal sources is considerably higher than what they would get for ordinary deaths.

It is quite obvious that the whole Covid19 “industry” is not only encouraging fraud, it is permeated with systemic fraud.

So, here we are today… and the question is… how many people died from Covid19? Is it 9683 or 160,000?

The correct scientific answer is “a lot”

But we don’t really know what “a lot” is. It could be nothing more than a very bad flu. In the meantime, millions of lives have been disrupted, or even destroyed by politically motivated overreaction

How many sick people have actually lost their lives, because their treatment was not considered “essential”, in view of Covid19?

By metmike - Sept. 7, 2020, 1:30 p.m.
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The internet's been lit up regarding recent COVID-19 death statistics from CDC. Here's what they actually show.

metmike: This is a great video/explanation and with other great points!

By metmike - Sept. 7, 2020, 1:47 p.m.
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This article resulted in many wonderful comments. The comments are the best for learning in this case as the article is very misleading/wrong and very biased from somebody focused on politics and not thinking objectively in my opinion. 

STUNNING: @CDCgov update on #COVID19  – US Deaths overestimated by 17 times

By metmike - Sept. 7, 2020, 2:05 p.m.
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These are all great points.

Sadly, the fact that some data that we get from the gate keepers is not accurate and even corrupted to push a political agenda(climate science is the most corrupted science of all)...........and we know this...............means that we become suspicious of ALL data if it doesn't match up with our own political affiliation/belief system.

For the average person, its almost impossible to know what to believe and what not to believe.

On this topic its been crazy.

Just to name a few:

Getting us to  believe that millions of people at protests smashed together(no social distancing) some not wearing masks(cloth masks don't stop the virus, they just keep it from going farther out(and people next to you at a protest, will still be exposed to your virus)......does not spread COVID.

Vilifying a drug that thousands of medical doctors are convinced works based on understanding medicine and the way this drug affects the human body/immune system and telling us its dangerous, when the facts show that used properly its very safe.

I used that link because it discusses the corruption of the FDA too. We are constantly fed lies about health care, medicine and drugs.