QAnon reshaped Trump’s party
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Started by metmike - Jan. 13, 2021, 12:48 p.m.

metmike: I have serious concerns about this for 2 reasons.

1. These people exist and some are extreme and nothing will ever convince them to NOT believe in some of the most extreme things.

2. Others in this group are mischaracterized, as  in the article below as millions of loony tunes that believe in science fiction about a non existent deep state/swamp, when there are actually  significant elements of truth in the belief of a deep state(mostly unelected bureaucrats)  and it was in fact targeting Trump and does have alot of control.

Since Biden is a favorite son of the deep state, the stuff with Hunter, in which he was a key player will never result in accountability. Is this a right wing,  crazy QAnon conspiracy theory?

But it's lumped in there intentionally with the crazy stuff so that people discard the credibility of the REAL stuff.

Also, because this is happening, people on the right that KNOW things, like that the Mueller investigation was the deep state doing what they do best(another example of its existence) end up believing that EVERYTHING is the deep state........or that EVERYTHING is corruption against their side.

 When their far right information sites can connect the dots on Mueller for instance or the Bidens corruption or Clintons.............all they need to do it make up the dots on the other stuff.

QAnon reshaped Trump’s party and radicalized believers. The Capitol siege may just be the start.

The online conspiracy theory, which depicts Trump as a messianic warrior battling ‘deep state’ Satanists, has helped fuel a real-world militant extremism that could haunt the Biden era: It’s ‘a threat to our democracy, and we’re not nearly done’

Jan. 13, 2021 at 10:00 a.m. CST

The siege on the U.S. Capitol played out as a QAnon fantasy made real: The faithful rose up in their thousands, summoned to Washington by their leader, President Trump. They seized the people’s house as politicians cowered under desks. Hordes wearing T-shirts emblazoned with the “Q” symbol and toting Trump flags closed in to deliver justice, armed with zip-tie handcuffs and rope and guns.

The “#Storm” envisioned on far-right message boards had arrived. And two women who had died in the rampage — both QAnon devotees — had become what some were calling the first martyrs of the cause.

The siege ended with police retaking the Capitol and Trump being rebuked and losing his Twitter account. But the failed insurrection marked a grim milestone in how the paranoid conspiracy theory QAnon has radicalized Americans, reshaped the Republican Party and gained a forceful grip on right-wing belief.

Born in the Internet’s fever swamps, QAnon played an unmistakable role in energizing rioters during the real-world attack on Jan. 6. A man in a “Q” T-shirt led the breach of the Senate, while a shirtless, fur-clad believer known as the “Q Shaman” posed for photographers in the Senate chamber. Twitter later purged more than 70,000 accounts associated with the conspiracy theory, in an acknowledgment of the online potency of QAnon.

The baseless conspiracy theory, which imagines Trump in a battle with a cabal of deep-state saboteurs who worship Satan and traffic children for sex, helped drive the day’s events and facilitate organized attacks. A pro-Trump mob overwhelmed Capitol Police officers, injuring dozens, and one officer later died as a result. One woman was fatally shot by police inside the Capitol. Three others in the crowd died of medical emergencies.

QAnon devotees joined with extremist group members and white supremacists at the Capitol assault after finding one another on Internet sanctuaries: the conservative forums of and Parler; the anonymous extremist channels of 8kun and Telegram; and the social media giants of Facebook and Twitter, which have scrambled in recent months to prevent devotees from organizing on their sites.

QAnon didn’t fully account for the rampage, and the theory’s namesake — a top-secret government messenger of pro-Trump prophecies — has largely vanished, posting nothing in the past 35 days and only five times since Trump’s election loss.

But QAnon’s prominence at the Capitol raid shows how powerful the conspiracy theory has become, and how quickly it has established a life of its own. On fringe right-wing platforms and encrypted messaging apps, believers are offering increasingly outlandish theories and sharing ideas for how they can further work to overturn the results of the Nov. 3 contest — with violence, if necessary.

The fervent online organizing seen ahead of last week’s assault has begun building again. A QAnon group on Gab has grown by more than 40,000 members since the failed insurrection. Thousands more have flocked to QAnon-affiliated spaces on the private-messaging app Telegram. One 12,000-member channel was so overrun with new members that those behind the forum temporarily froze the chat feature. 

Even as Trump is set to exit the White House, QAnon’s grip on the conservative psyche is growing. Two Republican members of Congress, Reps. Marjorie Taylor Greene (Ga.) and Lauren Boebert (Colo.), have voiced support for QAnon, while others have tweeted its slogans. State legislators across the country have further lent it credence while also backing Trump’s claims of electoral theft despite a lack of evidence and dozens of swift rejections in court.

The QAnon movement’s evolution, from an Internet hodgepodge to a hallmark of pro-Trump violence, is a signal of the danger it poses to security this weekend and going into next week’s inauguration. It also presents long-term challenges for President-elect Joe Biden by fomenting resistance to democratic governance and to measures needed to corral the coronavirus pandemic, including mass vaccination.

“The takeaway from this is that disinformation is a threat to our democracy,” said Joel Finkelstein, co-founder of the Network Contagion Research Institute, a research group that studies online disinformation. “And we’re not nearly done.”

As much of the nation — including leading Republicans — expressed horror at last week’s events, a different narrative was playing out in the parallel online universe that has grown around Trump’s presidency and helped sustain it through perpetual upheaval. The siege was justified, described on Twitter by one QAnon devotee as “the least we can do.” Or it was staged as a false flag to discredit Trump supporters, with its participants as the true victims.

“You all know the attack on the Capitol was done by [the far-left political movement] antifa,” Thomas McInerney, a retired lieutenant general in the Air Force, declared in remarks captured on video and peppered across Twitter by accounts participating in a frenzied effort to construct a different narrative of the Capitol riots.

Experts tracking the QAnon conspiracy theory movement believe a new president may only exacerbate feelings of resentment and victimhood that have nurtured the baseless philosophy. Against the backdrop of QAnon, Trump was able to position himself as an outsider, fending off secret enemies, even while in the Oval Office. Once he’s really on the outside, that sense could grow.

“This will be a new cause,” said Mary B. McCord, a Georgetown Law professor and former national security official at the Justice Department. “Democrats in the White House.”

By bear - Jan. 13, 2021, 10:14 p.m.
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Qanon is not very significant.  i know lots of people who voted for trump,  but none of them pay any attention to Qanon.  

just my observation , from my little corner of america.  

By metmike - Jan. 13, 2021, 10:29 p.m.
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Same thing with all the Trump supporters that I know bear and I live in Red Neck, USA. 

But they want us to think there are tens of millions of people that treat QAnon like a religion and connect those people to Trump.

It's a dirty trick used in yellow journalism.

However, despite the exaggeration of this, we have a huge problem of people from both sides, including those that believe in this QAnon nonsense that don't know what to believe................because the majority of sources of our information in todays world are usually not objective, independant news sources reporting facts.  

They INTERPRET the news for us, not just report it. 

If you want to maximize your readers/viewers and you lean left or right, you spin the news to attract people on that side. Since many news reporters are also political activists with strong belief systems(often why they picked that field) and an objective to make the world a better place...........they spin the news to convince others in their belief system because that's the one THEY think we should all embrace.

By TimNew - Jan. 14, 2021, 4:58 a.m.
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Liberal messages, among many.

"QAnon is a major threat to our country. Most Trump supporters are members".

"ANTIFA is largely a myth, and has no significant impact"