A man compares Covid USA to 1930s Germany
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Started by GunterK - Jan. 16, 2022, 4:58 p.m.

The writer of the link below is Jewish American. He compares life in Covid USA with life in 1930s Germany.  He can say things, I, as an immigrant from Germany, would not dare say.

Be warned...this writer is clearly an “anti-vaxxer”.  Most of you will not like his comments about the vaxx.  Please put your sentiments about this man's vaxx opinion aside, and focus on his comparison with 1930s Germany.

This article somehow adds to Timnew’s reply in the thread “Cancelling Mike Lindell”

https://rootforamerica.com/my-father-almost-died-for-his-country-fighting-at-okinawa-today-his-son-can-no-longer-walk-the-streets-of-washington-dc-without-papers/

Please note that by posting this link I am in no way aggreeing with this man's anti-vaxx beliefs.  I only wanted to show this man's comparisons with 1930s Germany.

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By metmike - Jan. 16, 2022, 9:32 p.m.
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Look in your mailbox Gunter.

By mcfarm - Jan. 17, 2022, 8:05 a.m.
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must be big news. was on tv last nite and I believe maybe 60 minutes? was reporting

By metmike - Jan. 17, 2022, 11:30 a.m.
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GOP congressman apologizes for comparing DC vaccine protocols to Nazi Germany

https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/13/politics/warren-davidson-apologizes-nazi-tweet/index.html

"Davidson's comments were widely condemned. The Anti-Defamation League said, "It's never appropriate to compare requirements for public health with the tactics of Nazi Germany. As we've said too many times to count, minimizing the Holocaust in this way is deeply offensive and harmful."

"Republican Rep. Adam Kinzinger of Illinois also responded to Tapper, saying, "This is the new politics. It's not about leading anymore. It's about how can we out-outrage the other person."

"It's insane," Kinzinger added. "Every Republican leader needs to be condemning that kind of B.S. right now."

After Davidson's apology on Thursday, Republican Jewish Coalition executive director Matt Brooks tweeted, "Congressman, thank you for this sincere apology and clarification." 

By metmike - Jan. 17, 2022, 11:44 a.m.
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I've also responded to this pathetic, offensive stuff before.....less than a month ago here:


                Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: learning so much more from the Jan 6th committee            

                            By metmike - Dec. 21, 2021, 3:54 p.m.            

            https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/79199/#79392


However, brainwashed minds are blinded with rage and lack the compassion and comprehension or objectively to see the stark relative differences in realities...........all they know is what they are being told to think.........completely absent of the critical thinking process or vetting of information to fact check or conduct an analysis using basic common sense and applying humanity. 

Sadly, this is what's defining our world more and more today.

The powerful communication sources  providing a million times more information also feature nefarious sources that use it as their playground to establish modern day cults with them as the high priests.!

We've witnessed the posting of a person trapped in one these cults the past year, starting yet another thread here and pretending its somebody else's view and not their's because they are obsessed with trying to get it thru and pretending that it really isn't their view......which would make them accountable for it.

Dishonestly/being disingenuous have more and more defined this person as all they care about, from what we've seen most of the time here is what their cult leaders have hammered into their heads.

A true brainwash. I sent Gunter yet another email to try to help him again.                    


By metmike - Jan. 17, 2022, 11:45 a.m.
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Captured brains            

                            14 responses |         

                Started by metmike - April 10, 2021, 12:32 a.m.            

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/67714/

By metmike - Jan. 17, 2022, 12:17 p.m.
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For those that may have forgotten, this was an example of Gunter's attempts to recruit readers here into his CULT:

                negative vaxx comments            

                            18 responses |           

                Started by GunterK - Aug. 7, 2021, 3:43 p.m.            

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/73302/


This is one his favorite high priests(with Gunter providing over 100 links from him on just that thread above):

                Alex Jones paying the price for his blatant DISinformation/lies            

                            13 responses |           

                Started by metmike - Nov. 15, 2021, 6:44 p.m.            

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/77858/


By wglassfo - Jan. 18, 2022, 6:47 p.m.
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I guess I have to debate some of your thoughts Mike

 Re: The part about needing papers to walk or do anything except stay home in DC

I am taking that part at face value about the need for papers as I have not walked in DC so I have to trust that part is true [about papers]

Let me be clear: I am vaxxed twice and been boosted once.

I think I did the right thing but where is the proof???

If my grandson has a family of children all suffering ill affects that can be traced back to the vaccine, was the vaccine safe?? Does he and his partner wish they had not taken the vaccine???

 The problem is: it will take a lot of time to prove the safety of the vaccine

The fact remains, nobody knows. We may have saved 100,000 lives, more or less at a cost of multiples more with ill affects., born or unborn. We had a young lady in our family who is vaxxed suffer a miscarriage. Does anybody know why???

Now on to the papers:

Yes:  in Germany at the height of German Gestapo power, you had to carry papers proving who you were

Well: Today we have to carry papers to prove our vaccination status. Where is the difference.??? One set of papers proves one thing, another set of papers in another time frame proves some thing different

But the big issue is:

You still need the dang papers to prove some thing

I am not debating, if the vaccine is good or bad

What I am debating is:

  the  fact of carrying papers in DC and the proof in a later time, about the safety of the vaccine

Heck we carry papers in our county but not as severe as was told about D. C.

By metmike - Jan. 18, 2022, 8:12 p.m.
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"The problem is: it will take a lot of time to prove the safety of the vaccine

The fact remains, nobody knows. We may have saved 100,000 lives, more or less at a cost of multiples more with ill affects., born or unborn."


No Wayne, that is 100% absolutely wrong. You are getting some very bad DISinformation if believe that and should stop visiting any sites that suggests COVID vaccines have any affect on your DNA. Vaccines absolutely cannot change your DNA. No way, no chance.

Gunter gets really bad DISinformation about COVID too but after 9 months of me showing him the science, even he agreed and stopped stating that COVID vaccines were changing our genes.

Wayne,

Almost 5,000,000,000 people have had at least one COVID vaccine shot. There is more reliable data from more people that got the shots, including the adverse reactions afterwards and the protection based on the real world(in addition to the hundreds of scientific/medical studies)  than any other comparable medicine,  supplement, vaccine, device or anything else in the medical literature.

The data comes from real (honest) doctors, scientists, hospitals, healthcare and other entities that are not all colluding to try to trick us into taking a dangerous vaccine for profits or political agenda which supposedly is part of the governments plan to use it as part of a scheme to take control of our lives. That's absurd!

Or using corrupt methods to inflate the death toll for profits, politics or any other reason. 

The real tricking  of people is coming from getting them to believe this absurd conspiracy theory that feeds on paranoia and anti government sentiment. 

You are being bamboozled by dishonest/nefarious sources with a political, anti science agenda.

On vaccine safety, this is the thread in which I finally got Gunter to admit that COVID vaccines don't alter your DNA. This was way back in August and apparently others here still believe this:

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/73449/#73590

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There are many hundreds of great sources on the internet that explain the science of these vaccines and why they do NOT change human DNA and are safe. The ones you are going to are obviously cherry picking and using outlier data and doctors(yes, you can find almost anything that you want to support almost anything that you want on the internet and in this case, the anti science, MISinformation on the COVID/vaccine ranks up at the very top......even more than the Fake Biden election steal).

This is a very  minuscule fraction of the authentic science:

https://medlineplus.gov/genetics/understanding/therapy/mrnavaccines/

https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-mrna-megamix/fact-check-mrna-vaccines-do-not-turn-humans-into-hybrids-or-alter-recipients-dna-idUSL1N2M61HW

https://www.mskcc.org/coronavirus/myths-about-covid-19-vaccines

https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-coronavirus-vaccines/fact-check-controversial-mit-study-does-not-show-that-mrna-vaccines-alter-dna-idUSL1N2PK1DC

https://healthfeedback.org/claimreview/inaccurate-clickbait-headline-forbes-article-used-to-promote-false-claim-that-covid-19-vaccines-change-our-dna/

https://www.health.gov.au/initiatives-and-programs/covid-19-vaccines/is-it-true/is-it-true-can-covid-19-vaccines-alter-my-dna

https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20210719/covid-19-vaccines-not-gene-therapy

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/facts.html


https://www.aarp.org/health/drugs-supplements/info-2020/covid-vaccine-myths.html?CMP=KNC-DSO-COR-COVID-21439-GOOG-HEALTH-COVID-DrugsSupplement-VaccineMyths-Phrase-NonBrand&gclid=CjwKCAiA55mPBhBOEiwANmzoQkXTvcTmtqFS8HPtwj0451Z99kaCsRXv2sPZdW1oH8sCEacw7h8nMRoCQ5gQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

https://informeddna.com/mrna-vaccines-and-your-dna/

By metmike - Jan. 18, 2022, 9:24 p.m.
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"Now on to the papers:

Yes:  in Germany at the height of German Gestapo power, you had to carry papers proving who you were

Well: Today we have to carry papers to prove our vaccination status. Where is the difference.??? One set of papers proves one thing, another set of papers in another time frame proves some thing different

But the big issue is:

You still need the dang papers to prove some thing"

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Wayne,

Are you not aware that your point is making a case FOR what you are trying to make a case against?

We need papers or ID to prove MANY things in this country. Ironically, you were just making a case in another thread for needing picture ID(papers to prove who you are to vote) but in this thread..............doing the same thing......... is supposed to be like 1930's Germany???? 

They are the same thing???

Here's an example of 24 other things that require papers/ID to prove who you are...........just like Nazi Germany, according to you:

24 things that require a photo ID

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/24-things-that-require-a-photo-id

Our children all had to have vaccination papers to get into public school here for instance. Was this also like Nazi Germany to you?

Suggesting that they are all similar is what makes it so extremely offensive for some people that are familiar with the regime of  Nazi Germany, that exterminated over 6,000,000 jews and persecuted other non Germans and resulted in over 60,000,000 unnecessary deaths in the world........trying to make a ludicrous connection that Germany's requiring ID/papers is similar to this country having a HEALTH policy based on science to make ALL Americans healthier and save hundreds of thousands of  lives.......which the vaccinations have done indisputably.


Wayne,

How many lives did Nazi Germany cost the world with their policies/regime?

https://www.nationalww2museum.org/students-teachers/student-resources/research-starters/research-starters-worldwide-deaths-world-war

WW-2 Worldwide Casualties* 

Battle Deaths15,000,000
Battle Wounded25,000,000
Civilian Deaths45,000,000


How many lives has the US........or any country in the world taken by requiring proof of vaccination????

How about, instead of lives lost...........the count is in the other direction........LIVES SAVED by getting vaccinated for COVID..........in some cases, being required/forced to get vaccinated.

Sadly, people pushing articles like this have cost over 100,000 people reading and believing articles like this to die in 2021(many of them republicans) in just the US alone.


                90,000 US COVID-19 deaths could have been prevented             

                          Started by metmike - Jan. 9, 2022, 4:23 p.m.            

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/80126/

This is why comparing the current altruistic goal of getting people vaccinated for COVID for  the benefit of mankind with the policies of NAZI Germany  is so pitiful and offensive.