Abiotic NON-fossil fuel hydrocarbons
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Started by metmike - Feb. 26, 2022, 11:27 p.m.

How much abiotic oil is there really?  Unknown but we know with absolute, proven/confirmed certainty that there is way more methane/natural gas being produced abiotically from the earth itself.

Indisputable!

They don't want you to know this or else............you would know this.

This should have been the top story for every news outlet at least several times the last few years!!!!

Rewriting the textbook on fossil fuels: New technologies help unravel nature's methane recipes

Rewriting the textbook on fossil fuels: New technologies help unravel nature's methane recipesAbiotic sources of methane have been found in more than 20 countries and in several deep ocean regions so far.

"We have clear and growing evidence of abiotic methane on Earth. What is not clear is how much there is. These investigations have found incredible complexity in the way methane is produced, and these complexities connect inorganic and organic chemistry on Earth in fascinating ways."

Adds Dr. Young: "We went into this project thinking we knew how abiotic methane formed. What we're learning is that it is much more complicated, and the biggest key is hydrogen. With greater understanding of how rocks make the hydrogen from which methane derives, and how fast this reaction happens, we'll be a lot closer to knowing how much methane there is on Earth."

Jesse Ausubel of The Rockefeller University in New York notes that the popular definition of "fossil fuel" doesn't cover abiotic methane.

"Thousands of samples from many settings tested with super-sensitive instruments are producing a global picture of the abundances and fluxes of deep energy. Much of the very deep hydrocarbons is not conventional fossil fuel, as popularly defined."

The behaviors of biotic and abiotic methane, it should be noted, in terms of energy output and emissions when burned, are indistinguishable.

Key findings to date: 

  • Thanks to new instruments, scientists have identified new isotope signatures in methane to help determine its provenance—an impossibility 10 years ago 
  • The serpentinization reaction is better understood and is one of several ways Earth's rocks produce molecular hydrogen—a key source of geologic energy for the deep biosphere
  • That hydrogen reacts with carbon dioxide to produce methane was long known. How this happens in Earth's crust, however, is highly complex, and many other organic molecules are created as byproducts in the process. These molecules can be used by microbes as a food source. They also represent intriguing clues as to the origins of life on Earth, as these organic molecules may be precursors for the building blocks of life (e.g., amino acids)
  • With similar conditions and reactions likely on other planets and moons (e.g., the subsurface of Mars or on the ocean floor of Enceladus), it strengthens the potential identification of where life may exist elsewhere in the universe
  • Studies of serpentinizing systems have found other abiotic hydrocarbons in addition to methane.

Future implications:

These investigations into how abiotic methane forms on Earth are not the end of the story, but rather the beginning.

The last 10 years have seen transformational changes in our understanding of the origins of methane on Earth and its pivotal role in sustaining the deep biosphere, providing a glimpse into the geological processes that could have set the stage for life.

With these new discoveries, we are poised to answer numerous big questions, such as:

  • How much abiotic methane is being produced in Earth? 
  • How much methane do the microbes of Earth's deep biosphere produce?
  • How much do the microbes consume?
  • What are movements and fates of abiotic methane?and
  • Where is abiotic stored and for how long?

The success of the project's research has not only changed perceptions of energy generation in deep Earth, but also about how life may have found a foothold on our planet.

And if abiotic energy does occur on Earth, how likely is it that similar reactions and life have occurred elsewhere in the cosmos?

This Deep Energy research released today is a result of the Deep Carbon Observatory program, which will issue its final report in October 2019 after a decade of work by a global community of more than 1000 scientists to better understand the quantities, movements, forms, and origins of carbon inside Earth.                      

                                    


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By metmike - Feb. 26, 2022, 11:37 p.m.
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Why aren't they shouting what they've learned  from the rooftops?????


Abiotic theory for the origin of fossils fuels is now massively proven and the many hundreds of articles that have been written stating why its not possible still pollute peoples minds and steal their intelligence on the internet.


The Deep Carbon Observatory: A Ten-Year Quest to Study Carbon in Earth

http://www.engineering.org.cn/en/10.1016/j.eng.2019.03.004

Overview

The Deep Carbon Observatory (DCO) is a ten-year research program to investigate the quantities, movements, forms, and origins of carbon in Earth. More than 90% of Earth’s carbon may reside in the planet’s deep interior, and DCO’s overarching mission is to understand Earth’s entire carbon cycle—beyond the atmosphere, oceans, and shallow crustal environments, which have drawn most previous research attention—to include the deep carbon cycle [1,2]. A decade of focused research has led to major discoveries by DCO scientists on the physical, chemical, and biological roles of carbon in Earth.


                                    metmike: Like has happened most days for numerous hours, the last 2+ months, somebody(s) is attacking our site this evening and causing huge delays in the response of up to a minute to discourage people from reading and/or posting here. I lost our tech support last year and haven't heard from Kate, the owner in 3 years.

So congratulations to whoever is doing this. I can't stop you!

The delay is not your computer or this site. It's the attack on us.

During half the day, everything works great with no delay's. It's most often in the evening. For over a month, it was almost exactly from 6p-Midnight Central every day. In February, though its most likely then, it also happens earlier in the day sometimes.


            

                

By metmike - Feb. 27, 2022, 2:43 a.m.
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By metmike - Feb. 27, 2022, 3:23 a.m.
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Abiogenic Deep Origin of Hydrocarbons and Oil and Gas Deposits Formation

https://www.intechopen.com/chapters/41889

12. Conclusions

  1. Geological data presented in this chapter do not respond to the main questions related to the hypothesis of biotic petroleum origin. Only the theory of the abiogenic deep origin of hydrocarbons gives convincing explanation for all above-mentioned data. 
  2. The experimental results discussed in the chapter confirm that the CaCO3-FeO-H2O system spontaneously generates the suite of hydrocarbons in characteristic of natural petroleum. Modern scientific considerations about genesis of hydrocarbons confirmed by the results of experiments and practical results of geological investigations provide the understanding that a part of the hydrocarbon compounds could be generated at the mantle conditions and migrated through the deep faults into the Earth’s crust where they are formed oil and gas deposits in any kind of rocks and in any kind of their structural position. 
  3. The experimental results presented place the theory of the abiogenic deep origin of hydrocarbons in the mainstream of modern physics and chemistry and open a great practical application. The theory of the abiogenic deep origin of hydrocarbons confirms the presence of enormous, inexhaustible resources of hydrocarbons in our planet, allows us to develop a new approach to methods for petroleum exploration and to reexamine the structure, size and location of the world’s hydrocarbons reserves (www.jogmec.go.jp).
By metmike - Feb. 27, 2022, 3:28 a.m.
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Abiotic Oil Formation

http://www.petroleum.co.uk/abiotic-oil-formation

Politics

    

Like many issues, politics play a major  role in the abiotic versus biotic oil formation argument. Until recent decades,  the main argument propelling each was the supposedly limited supply of fossil fuel  available. For those pumping it from the ground, limiting supply has financial  gain. For politicians, a limited supply can be used to control people and as  justification for actions like war. An unlimited supply, on the other hand,  means that we need not worry about running out, that we ought to be able to drill  for more oil and increase the daily supply so as to decrease price, and so  forth.

    

The arguments above, however, have been  pushed aside in recent years by fears that global warming is directly attributable  to carbon dioxide produced by burning hydrocarbons. If this is true, it doesn’t  matter if oil is limited or not because using it is causing immense damage.

    

In the end, science will settle the debate,  but what science gets funded is directly related to which politicians are in  power and who is footing the bill. At some point we will know the definitive  answers to questions about the origin of oil and to questions about the impact  of CO2 on the environment.