This is what I've been insisting on for weeks.
From your link:
Jan 25, 2023
A dozen officials in Ukraine have resigned in a large-scale corruption scandal that involved politicians accused of all number of unsavory things, worse during wartime. Officials were accused of bribery, mismanagement of aid, embezzlement, and driving expensive cars that a government salary should not afford, all during a war that has devastated the economy. This is not new. The government of Ukraine has been this way for decades. Former President Kravchuk was known to drive a Mercedes that would take 136 years to pay for on the Presidential salary. What is new is the West pretending that they did not know this about Ukraine. They've known. And they still open their wallets to support a war that is killing Ukrainian people and enriching Ukrainian politicians. President Zelensky said this week that supporting Ukraine is a "big business" opportunity. Is that why they do it?
He's been elevated to a great hero by the West and motivated by his power driven hero worship status will stop at nothing less than defeating Russia, no matter what the cost to REAL people in his country which has been completely decimated by his self serving agenda.
Zelensky was elected the president of Ukraine and after 2 years in office, had proven to be just as corrupt as his predecessors with a record low approval rating........then the war with Russia resurrected his image as NATO saw the perfect leader and opportunity to destroy Russia.
Since then, he's been entirely about NATO/The West, using his people and country for THEIR cause.
What president that made his own people THE top priority would intentionally make the choice of having 1 million times more death and destruction to their country than the potential benefits of the other choice........joining NATO.
Many millions of his own people leaving Ukraine as refugees, the ones staying, being obliterated by the war. That's better than NOT joining NATO?
And now we continue to head towards the increasing odds of 1 trillion times more death/destruction to the planet with WW3, just so that Ukraine will have the right to join NATO and their refusal to negotiate over it with Russia.
Previous threads that provide evidence and rationale for this man to be a dangerous psychopath acting as a NATO Puppet trying to drag us into WW3 in order to destroy Russia and intentionally sacrificing his people and country to do it by refusing to negotiate with Russia. Agreeing to NOT joining NATO would have prevented all of this.
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Thoughts on Ukraine
Started by metmike - Feb. 24, 2022, 1:44 p.m.
I'VE NEVER EVEN LIKE THE LOOKS OF HIM. PEOPLE DO TEND TO WEAR THEIR INNER BEING ON THEIR FACE, IF YA PAY ATTENTION TO 'EM.
WHO INVITED HIM TO COME HERE & BEG TO CONGRESS, IN OUR HOUSE !?
KINDA LIKE THE RUSSIAN, THE DEMS INVITED TO THE STATE OF THE UNION ADDRESS.
BOTH OF THEM ARE APALLING, TO ME.
All Zelensky had to do was say he would not join NATO and Russia would end its occupation of Ukraine and stop the war crimes?
I've got a bridge I can sell you.
Freedom vs Dictatorships. Which side are you on?
I guess we'll never know for sure because Zelensky chose this non negotiable path, didn't he.
Didn't even try to have serious negotiations, instead intentionally picking the route that he knew would cause his country to be decimated for NATO.
"Freedom vs Dictatorships. Which side are you on?"
I'm always on the side of freedom, joj. But there are more important freedoms than the freedom to be part of NATO.
How about the freedom to LIVE?
The freedom to not have your country completely destroyed and to be prosperous?
The imperfect world is loaded with choices that involve picking the lesser of 2 evils.
In this case, Zelensky picked the choice that had 1 million times worse consequences than not joining NATO. Not theoretically but if you have eyes and a brain you can see the consequences of his choice.
Tell me, please what the consequences and worst case scenario would have been to negotiating with Putin and agreeing to not joining NATO and anything else that he might have wanted?
How does that worst case scenario that you're convinced was not an option, compare with the choice that the NATO puppet has sentenced his country to right now?
And things are really getting heated up now. It's going in the exact wrong direction which is taking us down the path that could lead to WW3........unless Zelensky decides to negotiate or Putin suddenly decides to give up, which we are supposed to believe will happen.
But it's Putin's fault, it's Putin's fault, it's Putin's fault!
Exactly. Mindlessly repeating that deceptive narrative to justify escalation and blaming it all on Putin..........when the choices to stop it have been intentionally ignored for a year by the other side, out of "principle" because they want to destroy Russia.
A display of closed minded lack of humanity and compassion for the poor Ukrainian people that are being totally used by the West, NATO and Zelensky for their cause.
Supported by massive propaganda that distorts the truth and realities.
At this point, even the absolute best case scenario for the outcome of this war was not worth .0001 what the cost was.....and the costs are going up every day and after every attack to Ukrainians.
And the rest of the world also. We keep hearing that the energy markets are messed up because of Putin's war. Global food production is suffering because of Putin's war. Inflation is because of Putin's war.
When you dial in the GLOBAL damage vs Ukraine's right to join NATO, it's like WOW, the propaganda sure has been effective.
And the war is escalating big time right now, with nobody talking negotiations or peace. Just defeat Russia on the battle field.
Even if that happened next week, Ukraine's losses are already a million times greater than not having had the war and not joining NATO.
That's at a minimum. Now, we just wait to see how bad it will get with unlimited upside damage.....trillions of times worse to the world from a nuclear war vs not joining NATO and no war.
What is it that causes you to not see this after its being clearly explained with authentic facts by a non propaganda source?
I'm really hoping things take a turn for the better but nobody can give the Ukrainians back their lives or destroyed homes taken from them so far.
No outcome comes even close to giving them even a tiny fraction of what their cost has been and the losses continue to mount but the objective never gets better.......join NATO.
However, we all know that only an insane person would buy into such a lopsided risk/reward dynamic.
The TRUE reward/outcome with NATO wants is to destroy Russia! For the gatekeepers, it's all worth it if they can accomplish that.
Screw the Ukrainians. They're just pawns in a war game with much more important long term political agenda at stake.
"Freedom vs Dictatorships. Which side are you on?"
IMO ~ THAT DECISION SHOULD BE LEFT FOR THE CITIZENS TO DECIDE, PERIOD!!
WE AREN'T HEARING ANYTHING FROM THEM! I'VE ONLY FOUND ONE RELIABLE VIDEO & THAT'S THE ONE I POSTED A WHILE BACK. ARE THEY BEING BLOCKED FROM BEING ABLE TO SPEAK?
WHAT A HORROR!
The Ukrainians are being fed pure propaganda by the West and Zelensky.
They're more brainwashed than the Russians are from Putin.
Of course they will intensely hate and blame Putin/Russia for doing this to them and want to fight him because they think it's there only choice.
FROM A YEAR AGO
This one says alot about him:
Campaigned on peace with Russia
Zelensky was elected president in 2019 after running on a campaign promising to negotiate peace with Russia and reduce the power of corrupt oligarchs who control much of Ukraine’s economy.
Although he successfully negotiated a prisoner swap with pro-Russian separatists early in his presidency, diplomacy with Moscow stalled due to Russian President Vladimir Putin’s demands that Ukraine stay out of Western alliances.
As tensions have escalated between Kyiv and Ukraine, Putin had accused Zelensky’s government of being a pawn of the West.
Putin has 0 credibility in my book but even low credibility people sometimes speak the truth. The authentic facts completely back Putin on that statement.....which is what I've been demonstrating and Putin just happens to be saying the same thing.
The interesting thing is how he blatantly violated his campaign promise to negotiate peace with Russia.
If he had run on "opposing Russia" or something similar, then we could call the guy authentic.
But this was him: Zelensky was elected president in 2019 after running on a campaign promising to negotiate peace with Russia.
He's a dangerous psycopath that has betrayed his campaign promises and country, being controlled by NATO.
The West/NATO has used propaganda to elevate him to a global hero fighting against evil Russia/Putin for their cause at the expense of the country that he promised to serve as president.
At least we know who Putin is. An extremely diabolical killer that disrespects human rights and human life when they get in the way of his political agenda.
But the fake image created of Zelensky is nothing like the real President Zelensky.
It's bad enough that we're supporting a cause and person and strategy that has directly resulted in the country of Ukraine being decimated in ways that are hard to truly fathom/appreciate from a humanitarian vantage point........as everybody focuses on the politics.......democracy vs non democracy, good against evil narratives and ignores the real human beings being used as pawns in a war game.
But even worse is that the US is making themselves extremely vulnerable to unintended consequences beyond comprehension.
Yes, we know that nuclear war that was not a threat with negotiations is a legit, growing threat...........that continues to be ignored by those making deciding that the only goal is to defeat Russia on the battle field.
Even a 1 in a 1,000 threat of nuclear war and WW3 would be far too great because events with odds that small HAPPEN. But the threat is MUCH greater than that. In fact, the crystal clear objective of Zelensky is in fact to start WW3 with NATO on his side to fight and defeat Russia. How we are actually getting strongly behind somebody that wants us in WW3 is insane........but let's discuss an element not mentioned. A cyber war with Russia, that could be beyond anything that we can imagine and is absolutely based on realities.
The transportation industry appears to be waking up to a renewed specter of threats following a series of distributed denial-of-service (DDoS) attacks that temporarily took down several U.S. airport websites. These sorts of targeted hacks on critical infrastructure often precede necessary and crucial advancements in the application of cybersecurity best practices. While strong security measures have always been an objective, the airline industry now looks to emphasize backup plans, threat exercises, and visibility as a response to the system outages caused by these types of attacks. The October outages for Los Angeles International Airport (LAX), Chicago O’Hare (ORD), and Atlanta Hartsfield-Jackson International appear to be part of ongoing pro-Russian cyberattacks escalation of a recent campaign protesting the U.S. government's support for Ukraine in its war with Russia. Unfortunately, the general media have minimized the urgency these threats truly pose. There are a lot more on the way.
1,300 cancellations in the US
The FAA said the issue occurred while personnel were working "to correct synchronization between the live primary database and a backup database."
The FAA said it "has so far found no evidence of a cyber-attack or malicious intent."
And this extraordinarily freaky backup database cause that happened in the US, just happened to occur on the same day that Canada had their own extraordinarily freaky, very similar outage that was supposedly just coincidental???? And it took 10 days for them to figure it out?
However, Canadian officials say they do not believe the cause of the outages are related.
“NAV CANADA’s Canadian NOTAM entry system experienced an outage affecting newly issued NOTAMs at approximately 10:20 a.m. ET and was restored approximately at 1:15 p.m. Mitigations were in place to support continued operations,” said Vanessa Adams, a spokesperson for NAV Canada, in an emailed statement.
And just coincidentally, Russia has been confirmed to cause major cyber attacks on our airports that took out websites with full expectations of them to ramp those up because of our support of Ukraine.
After a year being fed widespread propaganda and lies about the war, we should somehow expect them to suddenly be truthful about a cyber attack that would be a wake up call for people to see the actual risks and cause them to lose US support for their political cause in Ukraine?
The logical question is not IF Russia will try a major cyber attack on the US but how deadly will it be when they maximize the attack.........which they WILL DO with extraordinarily high confidence before losing the war and just giving up in Ukraine after being defeated on the battlefield, as we're led to believe is the goal in this political war game for the US and West that has a 1 trillion times greater risk than actual reward to it.
The alternative? Negotiating with Russia and have Ukraine agree to not join NATO.
It seems absurdly simple because the realm has been defined with extreme propaganda and lies to keep you from knowing/understanding that.
"I've got a bridge I can sell you.
Freedom vs Dictatorships. Which side are you on?"
Source for the analogy:
Ironically, the "suckers" being sold something not authentic in this war are NOT the ones outside of Ukraine that see negotiating and peace as an extremely viable option.......it's the ones being sold the current atrocity AS THE ONLY ONE!
This is one of the places that bridge is leading to:
LOL YOUR BROOKLYN BRIDGE, BROUGHT TO MIND THE LONDON BRIDGE >>>>>
Holy cow, jean!
that was one of the craziest, real things that happened ever!
thanks for sharing it!
LOL I ALMOST MOVED THERE, SHORTLY AFTER LAKE HAVASU "BECAME".
I HAD FRIENDS (NOW DECEASED) THAT MOVED THERE IN THE EARLY 70'S & STAYED THERE UNTIL THEY DIED. 10-15 YEARS AGO. THEY MARVELED AT THAT LONDON BRIDGE!