Chokehold victim Jordan Neely
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Started by metmike - May 6, 2023, 4:38 p.m.

Subway chokehold victim Jordan Neely charges ‘Howard Stern Show’ personality in Times Square in old video

He had 42 prior arrests, including for drugs, disorderly conduct, and assault, along with more than a dozen run-ins with police throughout the years tied to his mental health problems.  

“The whole system just failed him. He fell through the cracks of the system,” said Carolyn Neely, his aunt.

One of Neely’s assault victims told The Post the city failed the homeless man by not forcing him to get him the mental health treatment he so desperately needed.

“I don’t know why he didn’t end up in Bronx Psychiatric Center,” said the victim, creative arts therapist Anne Mitcheltree.  

“This is a common understanding in psychiatry,” she added, “that agitated people who are aggressive get themselves killed.”  


The 24 year old man that put Kneely in the choke hold to control his threatening behavior was not a professional in psychiatric disorders or law enforcement that should be held to a higher standard based on their training.

The extremely long history of arrests, must have also featured many more incidents when Kneely was NOT arrested.........hundreds. However, for him to be arrested that many times, clearly shows that his behavior interacting with other people,  constantly exceeded legal standards and some times violated the safety rights of others.

This also fits the description of many mass shooters, except this guy didn't have a high powered gun. 

If Neely did have a gun and the marine took him out, the marine would be a hero. Instead, he's labeled as a murderer.  I'm just suggesting the mind set of the marine subduing him.

If the dead man were not black and the guy applying the choke hold not white, the dynamic would not be exploited to use the race card again. 

If it comes out that the white guy has a long history of racism and confrontations with blacks, then I'll completely reverse my opinion. But what we do know is about Neely's history.

Most people would completely understand that Neely was constantly putting himself in confrontational situations, threatening people around him at times,  many incidents of law breaking.

It was just a matter of time before this would result in another person that decided they and those around them didn't want to be victimized, would take actions to defend themselves. 

Here's another opinion:

Jordan Neely Is Being Blamed for His Own Death Due to Sanism and Racism

Disability scholar Idil Abdillahi analyzes how Blackness and “madness” are pathologized in overlapping and violent ways.


I'm well aware that there is racism out there. However, when people use the race card almost all the time, for the sake of their hurts the true cause of fighting racism that most of us believe in.

If the messengers are constantly biased, their messages are ignored by those that see this. If you want to make progress to cause change, you must be open minded/objective and able to see both sides and understand the overall picture. 

And most importantly........get rid of the hate/attitude/vindictiveness.

I am convinced that love is the most durable power in the world. It is not an expression of impractical idealism, but of practical realism. Far from being the pious injunction of a Utopian dreamer, love is an absolute necessity for the survival of our civilization. To return hate for hate does nothing but intensify the existence of evil in the universe. Someone must have sense enough and morality enough to cut off the chain of hate and evil, and this can only be done through love.

-Martin Luther King Jr.

We should all be outraged and saddened that this extremely deranged, mentally ill person is dead. However, it should compel us to try to understand mental illness and how society is failing to address and treat mental illness instead of hating the white guy that killed the black guy. AND DO SOMETHING FOR PETE'S SAKE!


 Dignity is a human right

Homelessness and Mental Illness: A Challenge to Our Society

According to a 2015 assessment by the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development, 564,708 people were homeless on a given night in the United States. At a minimum, 140,000 or 25 percent of these people were seriously mentally ill, and 250,000 or 45 percent had any mental illness. By comparison, a 2016 study found that 4.2 percent of U.S. adults have been diagnosed with a serious mental illness.

What are the most common types of mental illness among people experiencing homelessness?

Affective disorders such as depression and bipolar disorder, schizophrenia, anxiety disorders and substance abuse disorders are among the most common types of mental illness in the homeless population.


Death wasn't inevitable but continued confrontations with people around him were.  Where would that have led?

The system let this mentally ill person down. He should have been institutionalized for in patient treatment by everyone's standards.

I would consider this mentally ill person a type of predator on the streets and something really bad was destined to happen. Totally beyond his control because his mind was broken from mental illness but he was victimizing innocent people with his behavior. How many more times would he get away with this behavior before something really bad happened to him?

 He didn't deserve to die. Jordan Neely was NOT a bad person. He was just mentally ill. He deserved professional treatment, starting a long time ago based on responsible human beings with compassion and resources identifying his need. There are people that do that for a living.

Those are the ones that should be held accountable for not doing their jobs.

I have a wonderful idea.

Instead of fighting over who gets the most blame, why don't we do something about it?

Think about how much help we could have provided for desperate people like this in our country with the 115 billion that we sent to Ukraine for killing people that aren't Americans for political agenda.

Jordan Neely in a treatment center, where everybody KNOWS he belonged,  would still be alive on May 6, 2023!

We need to get our priorities straight!

RSIP Jordan Neely.

On May 1, 2023, Jordan Neely, a 30-year-old black homeless man, was killed by Daniel Penny, a 24 year-old white ex-Marine, placing him in a chokehold while they were riding the F train on the New York City Subway.[2][3][4] 

According to police, witnesses said Neely was acting in a "hostile and erratic" manner, and yelled that he was hungry and thirsty,[4] and that he would hurt anyone on the train.[5] One witness, freelance journalist Juan Alberto Vázquez, said that Neely did not physically attack anyone, while other witnesses reported Neely throwing trash at other passengers

By 12345 - May 19, 2023, 10 p.m.
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