https://www.oleantimesherald.com/opinion/braggs-trump-indictment-is-a-campaign-promise-kept/article_e7f11833-3c5b-52b7-9c5b-a1018943c3cf.html
Alvin Bragg, the local district attorney in Manhattan who has led the effort to indict former President Donald Trump, is an elected official. He ran for his current office in 2021. In that campaign, he won a Democratic primary crowded with fellow Democrats who promised that, if elected, they would go after Trump.
Now, having been elected, Bragg is going after Trump.
Getting Trump has been a common feature in New York elections for law enforcement positions. The 2018 campaign for state attorney general was a virtual bidding war in which each candidate promised to pursue Trump more zealously than the other candidates. The winner, Attorney General Letitia James, has been unable to come up with criminal charges against Trump personally, but she did, along with Bragg, prosecute the Trump Organization on questionable grounds — or, if not questionable, at least grounds that led observers to wonder whether the case would have been pursued with such fervor against an organization not named Trump.
Now Bragg has won the indict-Trump sweepstakes. And for him, indicting Trump on charges that seem truly questionable is more than just indicting Trump. It is keeping a campaign promise.
Bragg believed he had a special qualification for the job. Again, from the Times: “Mr. Bragg, a former official with the New York attorney general’s office, reminds voters frequently that in his former job, he sued Mr. Trump’s administration ‘more than a hundred times.’”
In the end, for Bragg and the Democratic officials who have pressed the Trump indictment, and for the supporters who have cheered them on, it’s not really about the question of whether Trump committed the misdemeanor offense of falsifying business records and whether that misdemeanor can be properly increased to a felony by alleging some other illegal act. It’s about holding Trump “accountable” and thus satisfying many Democrats’ pent-up demand for “accountability” for the former president.
That’s why the Manhattan indictment is more of a campaign promise fulfilled than a legal case.
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If this were any other place but NY, there is no way this "target and prosecute Trump and violate his rights" nonsense would be going on. If these were any other people except those from NY on the jury, there is no chance that he would be found guilty of nonsense felony crimes.
Despite that, I have high confidence that the jurors will do the right thing and find him not guilty. We should note that the previous NONSENSE trials were intentionally conducted in CIVIL court. This was because they knew they would lose in criminal court. Criminal court PROTECTS THE DEFENDANT by requiring the prosecutor to actually prove the case "beyond a reasonable doubt."
They were able to get away with much more shenanigans with those nonsense trials. If there's an iota of objectivity and justice left in NY on this issue, then Bragg is going down here.
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Previous CIVIL trials prosecuting Trump:
Previous related thread on this:
Trump civil fraud trial-nonsense
32 responses |
Started by metmike - Nov. 12, 2023, 2:43 a.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/100509/
Trump rape case
20 responses |
Started by metmike - May 3, 2023, 9:33 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/94926/
Though I’m not trying to minimize its importance, I’m much more interested in how the GA case as well as the fake stolen election and 1/6/21 related case as those are more reflective of the threat to democracy than the hush money.
Larry,
I agree 100% with you!!!!!!
Trump did commit crimes in those cases in my opinion, especially related to him trying to overturn the results of the 2020 election with diabolical schemes.
Honestly, its sort of a subconscious desire to not turn this into the Trump soap opera forum and spend too much time on a divisive topic but realize it's a very important topic and will start threads on that too.
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I'll start new threads on those MUCH more serious trials for legit infractions ASAP.
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Those other trials, that you refer to and have not been decided, you would have thought would be cut and dry using the mountain of evidence against Trump to convict him. Instead, issues (distractions/soap operas) unrelated to whether Trump did the crimes or not have been making the headline news.
https://www.newsweek.com/trumps-first-criminal-trial-enough-cost-him-election-opinion-1892760
And the trial comes at a huge opportunity cost for Trump. It takes away the biggest advantage any campaign has—the candidate's time.
The contrast and opportunity this hands the Biden campaign could not have been any clearer than it was last week. While Trump was confined in court like a common criminal, Biden spent the week barnstorming across Pennsylvania talking about lowering taxes and bringing manufacturing jobs back to the United States. It's a movie we're likely to see play out over and over again: Trump in court and Biden in battleground states. And since Trump has funneled the vast majority of his campaign resources into his legal defense, he will struggle to make up for his lack of ability to travel with TV ads and other ways to reach voters in the states that will decide the election.
So, no. Up is not down. Bad is not good. The laws of political gravity have not been bent by Donald Trump. And sitting for a criminal trial in the middle of a presidential campaign is not a good thing.
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Mr. Gordon makes some great points.............very compelling election interference being the strongest one!
With regards to Biden on the campaign trail.............last time, Hiden Joe Biden is what won him the election, the more we see Joe Biden in 2024, the more it HURTS Joe Biden because of what it reveals about him.
Joe Biden confuses Israeli city with Rafah in latest gaffe
https://www.facebook.com/SkyNewsAustralia/videos/937170171240889/
I tuned into CNN a dozen times yesterday to see what they were covering, starting early in the morning and last time, past midnight.
Every time, 100% they were covering Trump's trial.
Talking heads with TDS, twisting everything in 1 direction and being cheerleaders for a hoped for outcome NOT objective news reporting and definitely not professional journalism.
But for sure, giving us the programming that will generate the highest ratings and what people want. A soap opera that exploits and amplifies peoples hatred of Trump (TDS) against brainwashed people in Trump's cult.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_journalism
Yellow journalism and yellow press are American terms for journalism and associated newspapers that present little or no legitimate, well-researched news while instead using eye-catching headlines for increased sales.[1][non-primary source needed] Techniques may include exaggerations of news events, scandal-mongering, or sensationalism. By extension, the term yellow journalism came to mean stories that were emotional or exaggerated and featured topics like crime, sex or violence.
BTW, I didn't bother to watch/listen to the silliness for more than a couple of minutes. I actually watch CNN a great deal and enjoy much of their solid reporting at other times.
I also watch Fox and ABC news as well as listen to NPR on the radio in my car.
Maybe I will watch more later this week and after that have more comments.
Trump did some things wrong, including having an affair and likely committed some misdemeanors but some of the charges are absurd.
They are doing a great job with their blatant and successful election interference scheme of 2024.
Ironically, that's one of the charges again Trump in 2016...........election interference.
But it's ok when they do it, like with covering up/lying about Hunter's laptop before the 2020 election. Previously with their handling of Hillary Clinton's crimes before the 2016 election.
These people will make up charges/rules to target people they want to destroy, while letting other people they want elected get away with the exact same thing. Actually, its not the people getting away with it, its THEM, the criminal justice system that's doing it!
Latest nonsense:
https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/30/politics/takeaways-donald-trump-hush-money-trial-day-nine/index.html
IS THERE PROOF IN THE PUDDING? LOL 19 MINUTES
EDIT: If The Jury Sees This Stormy Daniels Interview The Trump Case Is Over!
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thanks very much, Jean,
This guy spins a few things 1 way but makes numerous extremely solid points.
Ive been meaning to show the legal findings against her and for Trump, along the financial penalty against her and for Trump in a REAL court and will do that next week after I get back from Chicago.
The Ds TDS narrative to vote against him in November is that we’ll lose our democracy if Trump is elected.
These first 3 trials against Trump are indisputable evidence that we already lost our democracy especially in NY.
The biased justice department can just single out specific targets and manufacture bogus crimes with laughable, nonsense evidence using extremely corrupt prosecutors and judges.
Then, the media will use yellow journalism with its wall to wall coverage cheering it on instead of calling it out.
Thats no democracy. These are CRIMES against Trump getting the stamp of approval by powerful gatekeepers in our government, justice system and media.
I greatly despise Trump, personally but respect his rights as a citizen that actually cares about a legit democracy in our country……not the ANTI/fake democracy these diabolical, scheming entities are trying to sell us.
MIKE... THERE AIN'T ANY OF US PERFECT, WHILE STILL ON EARTH.
I HOPE TRUMP REFUSES A COGNITIVE TEST, LIKE JOE BLOW HAS. CONGRESS COULD'VE LEGITIMATELY USED THE 25TH AMENDMENT TO GET RID OF JOE BLOW, BUT...... NOOOOOOOOOOOO!! CACKLE BRAINS HARRIS WOULD'VE BEEN IN PANIC MODE, IF SHE'DA EVER GOTTEN THE "V" REMOVED FROM HER TITLE. (HOW'D SHE DO ON HER COGNITIVE TEST?)
Donald Trump Hush Money Trial Live Updates: Stormy Daniels to Testify Today
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/4647267-witness-testimony-trump-hush-money-trial/
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Nothing against Daniels because of her profession but her previous history in this case really destroys her credibility. Actually, it OBLITERATES her credibility!
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https://www.politico.com/story/2018/10/15/stormy-daniels-trump-libel-suit-903152
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https://www.cnbc.com/2022/03/22/porn-star-stormy-daniels-loses-appeal-of-trump-case.html
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https://news.meaww.com/stormy-daniels-owes-donald-trump-600-k-but-no-ones-talking-about-it
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https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/21/politics/michael-avenatti-second-trial/index.html
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Michael Avenatti ordered to pay $148,740 in restitution to Stormy Daniels
https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/27/politics/michael-avenatti-stormy-daniels/index.html
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The man once seen as a leader of the Trump resistance is now fighting prison — and historical obscurity.
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https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/17/politics/stormy-daniels-michael-cohen-settlement/index.html
LOS ANGELES (AP) — Michael Avenatti seemingly came out of nowhere, a sharply dressed lawyer with a penetrating gaze who said he would prove President Donald Trump had sex with a porn star and paid her off to keep quiet ahead of the 2016 election.
Suddenly, Avenatti was everywhere — on Twitter, talking to any camera put in front of him, appearing at rallies and becoming a guest on late-night talk shows, baiting Trump with insults as the president denied having an affair with porn actress Stormy Daniels.
He appeared on cable news shows dozens of times, especially CNN and MSNBC.
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Daniels said she was forced to hire Avenatti, the former liberal media darling who is now in prison
Avenatti appeared across all the major cable news networks over 250 times between February 2018 and 2019, according to the Media Research Center.
metmike: This was during the insanely corrupt, Mueller/justice departments "get Trump" investigation. A time frame when fraudulence like the type that Daniel's perpetrated, using criminals like Michal Avenatti got top dollar........which is what Daniel's was after.
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https://www.businessinsider.com/michael-avenatti-bio-lawyer-representing-stormy-daniels-2018-3
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Stormy Daniels has suffered a lot for her truth, and this is what comes through most clearly in the documentary. A plucky, resilient, funny woman who is unafraid to go head-to-head with the president of the United States of America. She is unafraid and she will not be cornered again.
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They want us to see poor Stormy Daniels as a victim of Trump's
She had sex with somebody WILLINGLY, then when that person is running for president, she decided she could make big bucks because of it. She WILLINGLY took $130,000 to keep quiet about it with a legal non disclosure document that she signed with Cohan and claims she was a victim?
I'll bet SHE doesn't have any other clients that gave her $130,000 for a 1 night stand.
THEN, SHE decided that $130,000 wasn't enough when Trump became the president and hired a corrupt lawyer and break/violate the terms of the LEGAL nondisclosure agreement between them TO MAKE EVEN MORE MONEY off the 1 night stand that SHE agreed to.
Where's the place where SHE is a victim when looking at the authentic facts?
SHE was a nobody and now SHE'S a huge celebrity. SHE got a ton of money for her book.......only because of this.
SHE agreed to this act. SHE hired the corrupt attorney to get more. SHE got a ton of money for her book. SHE got greedy and broke the terms of the legal nondisclosure agreement to make even more. SHE lost in REAL court when claiming that Trump defamed her.
SHE'S tried to make even more money off of this with several key decisions.
A victim doesn't have the choice to say NO in order to make it stop.
SHE made most of the choices to go down this path based on greed and benefits to HER.
No way that the prosecutor would have a case that she was a victim and this is justice for her(they claim other insane, criminal violations).
I'll bet that she's hoping the biased justice system in NY finds Trump guilty THEN she'll file a civil suit against him so that SHE can make even more money from this corrupt political/election interference nonsense.
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There's numerous items that can be debated and in some cases no evidence to prove either side. However, there are others with rock solid proof and/or common sense to guide us.
One of them, for me relates to where Daniel's is coming from.
It's crystal clear that she has been trying to make money on this 1 night stand for well over a decade.
The interview in 2011 was evidence of that. The only way for that one to happen is if Daniels went to the source to tell/sell her story because nobody else but her and Trump would have known about it.
However, the real problem that I have with her is that she hired extremely corrupt attorney, Michael Avenatti (in prison) to maximize the exploitation of this to maximize the benefits to her.
She pretends to be a victim(and he did apparently take advantage of her and other clients)
Regardless, she was trying to make as much money as she could for her story for years by telling it and selling it for a profit.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/stormy-daniels-ex-lawyer-michael-170018580.html
"Stormy Daniels is going to say whatever she believes is going to assist Stormy Daniels and putting more money in her pocket," Avenatti said. "If Stormy Daniels's lips are moving, she's lying for money."
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Avenatti has extremely low credibility but his characterization of Daniels fits with all her numerous actions. She's not some poor, uneducated, naive person that powerful men have taken advance of her entire life.
Not only did she understand what was going on, she intentionally choose it because it put her in a position to make money. Extortion money. TV interviews. Celebrity status. Selling a book. Hiring a corrupt lawyer to get even more money. Violate a legal non disclosure agreement.
She lies when saying that she didn't want this because the facts all show that she intentionally chose this......numerous times!
She did tell the truth about several things today. That she hates Donald Trump was one of them.
And this is the person that Alvin Bragg is using to get Trump. WOW!