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Started by metmike - April 17, 2024, 4:57 p.m.


Bragg's Trump indictment is a campaign promise kept

   https://www.oleantimesherald.com/opinion/braggs-trump-indictment-is-a-campaign-promise-kept/article_e7f11833-3c5b-52b7-9c5b-a1018943c3cf.html

Alvin Bragg, the local district attorney in Manhattan who has led the effort to indict former President Donald Trump, is an elected official. He ran for his current office in 2021. In that campaign, he won a Democratic primary crowded with fellow Democrats who promised that, if elected, they would go after Trump.

Now, having been elected, Bragg is going after Trump.

Getting Trump has been a common feature in New York elections for law enforcement positions. The 2018 campaign for state attorney general was a virtual bidding war in which each candidate promised to pursue Trump more zealously than the other candidates. The winner, Attorney General Letitia James, has been unable to come up with criminal charges against Trump personally, but she did, along with Bragg, prosecute the Trump Organization on questionable grounds — or, if not questionable, at least grounds that led observers to wonder whether the case would have been pursued with such fervor against an organization not named Trump.

Now Bragg has won the indict-Trump sweepstakes. And for him, indicting Trump on charges that seem truly questionable is more than just indicting Trump. It is keeping a campaign promise.

Bragg believed he had a special qualification for the job. Again, from the Times: “Mr. Bragg, a former official with the New York attorney general’s office, reminds voters frequently that in his former job, he sued Mr. Trump’s administration ‘more than a hundred times.’”

In the end, for Bragg and the Democratic officials who have pressed the Trump indictment, and for the supporters who have cheered them on, it’s not really about the question of whether Trump committed the misdemeanor offense of falsifying business records and whether that misdemeanor can be properly increased to a felony by alleging some other illegal act. It’s about holding Trump “accountable” and thus satisfying many Democrats’ pent-up demand for “accountability” for the former president.

That’s why the Manhattan indictment is more of a campaign promise fulfilled than a legal case.

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By metmike - April 17, 2024, 5:16 p.m.
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NEWSPress Releases

District Attorney Bragg Announces 34-Count Felony Indictment of Former President Donald J. Trump

April 4, 2023

https://manhattanda.org/district-attorney-bragg-announces-34-count-felony-indictment-of-former-president-donald-j-trump/

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If this were any other place but NY, there is no way this "target and prosecute Trump and violate his rights" nonsense would be going on.  If these were any other people except those from NY on the jury, there is no chance that  he would be found guilty of nonsense felony crimes. 

Despite that, I have high confidence that the jurors will do the right thing and find him not guilty. We should note that the previous NONSENSE trials  were intentionally conducted in CIVIL court. This was because they knew they would lose in criminal court. Criminal court PROTECTS THE DEFENDANT  by requiring the prosecutor to actually prove the case "beyond a reasonable doubt."

They were able to get away with much more shenanigans with those nonsense trials. If there's an iota of objectivity and  justice left in NY on this issue, then Bragg is going down here. 

The Differences Between a Criminal Case and a Civil Case

https://www.findlaw.com/criminal/criminal-law-basics/the-differences-between-a-criminal-case-and-a-civil-case.html

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Previous CIVIL trials prosecuting  Trump:


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By WxFollower - April 17, 2024, 5:18 p.m.
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 Though I’m not trying to minimize its importance, I’m much more interested in how the GA case as well as the fake stolen election and 1/6/21 related case as those are more reflective of the threat to democracy than the hush money.

By metmike - April 17, 2024, 5:22 p.m.
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Larry,

I agree 100% with you!!!!!!

Trump did commit crimes in those cases in my opinion, especially related to him trying to overturn the results of the 2020 election with diabolical schemes.

Honestly, its sort of a subconscious desire to  not turn this into the Trump soap opera forum and spend too much time on a divisive topic  but realize it's a very important topic and will start threads on that too.

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I'll start new threads on those MUCH more serious trials for legit infractions ASAP.

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Those other trials, that you refer to and have not been decided, you would have thought would be cut and dry using the mountain of evidence against Trump to convict him. Instead,  issues (distractions/soap operas) unrelated to whether Trump did the crimes or not have been making the headline news. 

By metmike - April 22, 2024, 10:15 a.m.
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Trump's First Criminal Trial Is Enough to Cost Him the Election | Opinion

https://www.newsweek.com/trumps-first-criminal-trial-enough-cost-him-election-opinion-1892760

And the trial comes at a huge opportunity cost for Trump. It takes away the biggest advantage any campaign has—the candidate's time.

The contrast and opportunity this hands the Biden campaign could not have been any clearer than it was last week. While Trump was confined in court like a common criminal, Biden spent the week barnstorming across Pennsylvania talking about lowering taxes and bringing manufacturing jobs back to the United States. It's a movie we're likely to see play out over and over again: Trump in court and Biden in battleground states. And since Trump has funneled the vast majority of his campaign resources into his legal defense, he will struggle to make up for his lack of ability to travel with TV ads and other ways to reach voters in the states that will decide the election.

So, no. Up is not down. Bad is not good. The laws of political gravity have not been bent by Donald Trump. And sitting for a criminal trial in the middle of a presidential campaign is not a good thing.

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Mr. Gordon makes some great points.............very compelling election interference being the strongest one!  

With regards to Biden on the campaign trail.............last time, Hiden Joe Biden is what won him the election, the more we see Joe Biden in 2024, the more it HURTS Joe Biden because of what it reveals about him.          

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Biden-Trump Gaffe Tracker: Biden Confuses Gaza’s Rafah With Israeli City Haifa

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By metmike - April 24, 2024, 10:18 a.m.
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I tuned into CNN a dozen times yesterday to see what they were covering, starting early in the morning and last time, past midnight.

Every time, 100% they were covering Trump's trial. 

Talking heads with TDS, twisting everything in 1 direction and being cheerleaders for a hoped for outcome NOT objective news reporting and definitely not professional journalism.

But for sure, giving us the programming that will generate the highest ratings and what people want.  A soap opera that exploits and amplifies peoples hatred of Trump (TDS) against brainwashed people in Trump's cult.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_journalism

Yellow journalism and yellow press are American terms for journalism and associated newspapers that present little or no legitimate, well-researched news while instead using eye-catching headlines for increased sales.[1][non-primary source needed] Techniques may include exaggerations of news events, scandal-mongering, or sensationalism. By extension, the term yellow journalism came to mean stories that were emotional or exaggerated and featured topics like crime, sex or violence.


BTW, I didn't bother to watch/listen to the silliness for more than a couple of minutes. I actually watch CNN a great deal and enjoy much of their solid reporting at other times.

I also watch Fox and ABC news as well as listen to NPR on the radio in my car. 


Maybe I will watch more later this week and after that have more comments.

Trump did some things wrong, including having an affair and likely committed some misdemeanors but some of the charges are absurd. 

They are doing a great job with their blatant and successful election interference scheme of 2024. 

Ironically, that's one of the charges again Trump in 2016...........election interference. 

But it's ok when they do it, like with covering up/lying about Hunter's laptop before the 2020 election. Previously with their handling of Hillary Clinton's crimes before the 2016 election. 

These people will make up charges/rules to target people they want to destroy, while letting other people they want elected get away with the exact same thing. Actually, its not the people getting away with it, its THEM, the criminal justice system that's doing it!