GOP vs Dems
6 responses | 0 likes
Started by joj - Oct. 6, 2023, 4:43 p.m.

The Democratic senator from NJ, Menendez, has been indicted.  His approval rating dropped from +5 to -9 (a 14-point drop). The Democratic governor of NJ and Booker (the other NJ senator) called for him to resign.  Additionally, 2 dozen Democratic senators called for Menendez to step down.

The leader of the GOP, Donald Trump, has had 91 felony indictments handed down from 4 different jurisdictions.  His approval rating went UP!!  Fundraising numbers went up.  GOP politicians, for the most part, rally to his defense, including some of his political opponents in the GOP primaries.

Just sayin'...

Comments
By mcfarm - Oct. 6, 2023, 5:50 p.m.
Like Reply

Number one, this is not Menedez's first round-up. He has pulled this crap before and you know it, the dem's in congress know it and all the east coast underworld knows it. He should of been gone long ago. Bigger problem is that nearly every single policy position he holds is bad for Americans. Trump's behavior is Trump's. Will not defend some of the crap he has pulled but the reason his numbers are up is obvious.....nearly every one of his policy positions is great for America. America has had with crime, the boarder, unfair treatment from justice, the fbi and other agencies doing small things like trying to throw national elections and control free speech, depletion of our oil reserves to the benefit of foreign countries, on and on it goes and Americans are sick of all of it.

Re: GOP vs Dems
0 likes
By metmike - Oct. 6, 2023, 6:51 p.m.
Like Reply

joj,

Another profound post by you.

Trump getting stronger and stronger with his base, the more evidence piles up is an unprecedented thing in politics and in any other realm that I'm aware of.

It really makes no sense..........but it's happening and there is a reason.

From an independent, objective scientists point of view, amazingly fascinating really.

Incredibly sad but fascinating. 

The reason that this is happening is that Donald Trump has perfected the portrayal of Donald Trump as A VICTIM of the DOJ, Ds and MSM EVERY SINGLE TIME.

He wouldn't have been able to do it without those same sources actually going after him for 2.5 years, during the corrupt Mueller investigation. A REAL Witch Hunt that featured Donald Trump being completely innocent but convicted in daily stories meant to discredit him and his presidency(attributing it to colluding with Russia) dragged out for over 2 years, with Mueller having the evidence to clear him very early on. 

An investigation into Trump that never should have been started in the first place.

That's what set the stage for Trump to very effectively portray himself as the victim.

He had already done a good job convincing people that he was an outsider, fighting against the swamp but until the swamp actually proved him right with the Mueller investigation, those were just words. They gave him and his supporters solid confirmation.

Since then, he's been charged with so many things that it's hard to keep track of. 

Some of it really is nonsense, like the rape charge from a nut case. 

However, his diabolical attempts to overturn the 2020 election and being 100% responsible for instigating the Jan 6th riot are treason as an acting president abusing his power and violating his vows to his country and Americans to uphold the Constitution.

There is no speculation or doubt on that last paragraph. The evidence couldn't be more powerful and indisputable. The man should be in prison but somehow, is the leading candidate in the R party for president.

That's because we live in a world of manufactured realities, mostly based on politics.

The current, authentic scientific climate optimum for most life on this massively greening planet has been twisted into a climate crisis destroying the planet..........from a beneficial gas that is still only half the optimum level for life in a world where cold still kills 10 times more people than heat and kills 200 times more life than heat.

Look how dang effective they have been at manufacturing a fake climate crisis!!!

People want to believe in environmentalism to save our planet. They hijacked climate science using that to tell people what they want to read/hear and believe in.

Republicans want to believe Trump won. They want to believe that he is just a victim, fighting for them and to save America. So he tells them what they want to hear to manipulate them using the same playbook that they use to perpetrate the fake climate crisis hoax.

Politicians like Matt Goetz understand the Donald Trump political model extremely well. He is exploiting these same Rs using it. 


Re: GOP vs Dems
0 likes
By 12345 - Oct. 6, 2023, 7:10 p.m.
Like Reply
By metmike - Oct. 6, 2023, 7:21 p.m.
Like Reply

mcfarm also makes a great point.

Most of Trump's policies make great sense. 

The energy policies ignore the fake climate crisis and effectively use fossil fuels that emit the CO2 which has rescued the planet from dangerous low CO2 levels, just 290 parts per million before the Industrial Revolution to the current 420 ppm. This is still less than half the scientific, biological/agronomic optimum of 900 ppm. 


Biden's energy policies, if it were possible to fully implement, would obliterate our economy. The lifeblood of most developed countries economies are its cheap, reliable, EXTREMELY POWER PACKED, abundant and practical fossil fuels.

Wind is total crap and the most anti green, anti environmental energy source ever invested. 

That's just 1 BIG example.   Trump comes with extreme, off the charts negatives that include belonging in prison the rest of his life but also the best agenda for American by a wide margin.

I voted for Trump in 2016 and defended him for several years, especially during the bogus Mueller investigation.

His bs got to be too much for me before November 2020 and I ended up not voting.

What he did after losing the 2020 election, however, was just unfathomable for presidential behavior. 

But here's the thing.

In today's politically charged, extremely divided environment, people that strongly align with their party believe almost everything good that supports their people/agenda and everything bad about the other party.

They are not able to distinguish or objectively see anything. It's all the same. Our party = good, the other party=bad. 

A good analogy is with the fake climate crisis. 

We are supposed to believe that the crisis will kill all the good life, polar bears, penguins, tree frogs, bunny rabbits, coral reefs, crops, honey bees, humans...etc but the exact same weather/climate and increasing CO2 levels will cause all the BAD life to flourish/multiply and kill the good life.....ticks, fleas, virus's, bacteria, weeds, cock roaches, rats.

Does that make sense?  

Fact is, almost ALL life, good and bad prefer MORE CO2 than this and global temperatures to still be a bit warmer.

We've defined the impact of increasing CO2 based on the political, junk science narrative messages we want to control people with. 

++++++++++++

Connecting the analogy:

With Trump. His energy policies are great for BOTH parties, Rs and Ds.

Biden's energy policies are really bad for BOTH parties, Rs and Ds.

What Trump did after losing the 2020 election was REALLY REALLY BAD for both Ds and Rs.

But each party redefines the meaning of good and bad based on their political agenda just like the fake climate alarmists define the impact of the same weather on good and bad life based on their agenda. 

They manufacture fake realities to impose their political agenda on us. Tell Rs and Ds what they want to hear.

And it's been extraordinarily effective.

Sadly, because of this, the tactic continues INCREASE in order to exploit Americans. We are becoming more and more and more divided. More intolerant of political views that are different than ours. 

More vulnerable to messages that tell us what we want to hear/read because there are more sources to pick echo chambers from. 

Why would people even go to sources that tell them what they disagree with to hear/read other views when there are so many available that make them feel good?

They aren't doing that!

Re: GOP vs Dems
0 likes
By joj - Oct. 6, 2023, 9:16 p.m.
Like Reply

I should have known that the climate debate is what this thread was all about.

How did I miss that?  :-)

By metmike - Oct. 6, 2023, 10:33 p.m.
Like Reply

Thanks much joj!

I appreciate you tolerating my screeds that seem to veer into tangents which are hard to follow for the ordinary person.

Good thing that you are EXTRAordinary!!!




Common Communication Mistakes #6: Going Off On Tangents

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/common-communication-mistakes-6-going-off-tangents-chris-fenning


screed

             https://www.britannica.com/dictionary/screed                                                                                                                                                 " a long and often angry piece of writing that usually accuses someone of something or complains about something"

In her screed against the recording industry, she blamed her producer for ruining her career

+++++++++

The Marketforum moderator continues to use screeds on a regular basis, including his favorite one....... using the fake climate crisis as an example of how the minds of Americans are being effectively brainwashed using manufactured realities.