YOU DECIDE. LOL 5 MINUTES
Promises that defy the laws of physics, energy and economics but line the pockets of crony capitalists and politicians!
And screw the people with fake green, fake environmental energy and lousy products!!!!
Energy transition is a hoax
31 responses |
Started by metmike - April 15, 2023, 5:50 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/94557/
There Is No Energy Transition, Just Energy Addition
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2023/03/12/there-is-no-energy-transition-just-energy-addition/
While wind and solar power are taking a larger piece out of a growing world primary energy pie, fossil fuels are expected to have more absolute growth through 2050.
There have been a lot of articles about EV fires in 2023;
‘Massive Problem’: Sky News host criticises sudden EV fires
Model 3 catches fire near Goulburn, as discarded MG battery destroys five cars at airport
Incident at Chinese EV battery plant: Fire during test run sparks safety fears
Electric Vehicle Catches Fire in Middle of The Road, Causing Traffic Jam
7 Battery Electric Cars a Day Catch Fire in China: The Most Involved Brands
Four die in Volkswagen EV fire after crash, fueling safety debate
Why electric vehicles are being written off over minor battery damage
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UP GOES THE PRICE OF LITHIUM BATTERIES :)
Started by 12345 - Dec. 31, 2023, 11:28 p.m.
electric cars
Started by mcfarm - Jan. 9, 2024, 6:37 a.m.
China must be ahead of us in the ev subsidy game. Article from August.
https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2023-china-ev-graveyards/ so this is what happens to them?? Maybe we can bankrupt China and avoid a war with them. Hell Biden would never know, Austin would never know, his chief assistant would never know, the press would never know....all is well with our defense dep.
https://www.fox32chicago.com/news/dead-teslas-oak-brook
OAK BROOK, Ill. - Electric vehicles may be the way of the future, but many EV owners are having trouble dealing with Chicago’s bitterly cold temperatures.
Public charging stations have turned into car graveyards over the past couple of days.
"Nothing. No juice. Still on zero percent," said Tyler Beard, who has been trying to recharge his Tesla at an Oak Brook Tesla supercharging station since Sunday afternoon. "And this is like three hours being out here after being out here three hours yesterday."
Beard was among the dozens of Tesla owners trying desperately to power up their cars at the Tesla supercharging station in Oak Brook. It was a scene mirrored with long lines and abandoned cars at scores of other charging stations around the Chicago area.
"This is crazy. It’s a disaster. Seriously," said Tesla owner Chalis Mizelle.
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I've been saying this for years!
Temperatures near 0 Deg F and they only have 50% range, in some cases even worse and lose their charge fast, lose their charge not even driving and as this story tells us, sometimes can't even be charged.
Electric cars exist entirely for crony capitalism and political agenda.
They are anti green, anti environmental as we see here, not functional.
They cause lithium batteries fires too.
It's insane, based on fake promises that defy the laws of physics, energy and economics. It's retarded science to make crony capitalists and politicians rich.
https://www.geotab.com/uk/blog/ev-range/
The temperatures that we are experiencing right now are on the far left side of the graph.
It's extremely dangerous to be stranded outside in life threatening cold like this!
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Any device, especially cars are only as good as how they perform when you need them the most.
When they perform at an optimal level(the one they are advertised with) they are close to a combustion engine vehicle but still inferior for numerous reasons.
However, during extreme weather, with your life on the line or with an emergency when you 100% MUST be able to depend on transportation or protection from the elements..... is when they have the greatest rate of failing or under performing.
WHAT AN EXPENSIVE JOKE. LOL
WHY DON'T THEY COME UP WITH A WAY OF CHARGING THOSE BATTERIES WHILE IT'S BEING DRIVEN??? 4 TIRES IN CONSTANT MOTION, WOULD PROBABLY GENERATE ENOUGH POWER... MAYBE. LOL
How often is the temperature close to 75 Deg?
That's how often you get optimal performance.
Jean, my son bought a hybrid and loves it.
The car is designed to charge the electric battery with the breaking and running of the combustion engine.
He gets something like 45 mpg.
https://afdc.energy.gov/vehicles/how-do-hybrid-electric-cars-work
TESLA STOCK
Started by 12345 - Sept. 13, 2023, 7:09 p.m.
GOTTA LOVE THOSE GOVT. EV ROAD TRIPS
Started by 12345 - Sept. 12, 2023, 9:48 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/98928/
The Electric: The Valley of Death Takes Out Another EV Maker
8 responses |
Started by metmike - Aug. 13, 2023, 7:29 a.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/98204/
Previous related threads:
TSLA, NFLX
Started by joj - July 20, 2023, 7:27 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/97460/
EVs are a Tough Sell
Started by metmike - May 16, 2023, 9:03 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/95238/
Tesla getting obliterated
33 responses |
Started by metmike - Dec. 20, 2022, 6:44 p.m
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/91607/
Are Electric Vehicles About To Sweep The Country?
Started by metmike - Feb. 27, 2023, 1:50 a.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/93452/
https://www.citywatchla.com/index.php/cw/important-reads/26455-the-ev-scamdemic
Energy transition is a hoax
Started by metmike - April 15, 2023, 5:50 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/94557/
Lithium Batteries, Cobalt and the Congo
Started by joj - Jan. 5, 2023, 7:53 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/91944/#91950
NEW: Electric cars are not the solution: Our mechanical engineer chimes in with great points. November 2022 https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/90429/
California tells electric car owners NOT to charge vehicles. Energy crisis in California because of unreliable, fake green/anti environmental energy!September 2022 https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/8
By metmike - Oct. 28, 2023, 10:03 a.m.
Independent of those costs discussed we have an extremely serious problem with electric cars:
Re: Re: Re: Re: The Electric: The Valley of Death Takes Out Another EV Maker
Posted toEnergy August 15, 2021 byRoger Aronoff
https://insidesources.com/bidens-ev-boondoggle-is-chinas-big-win/
Charles Payne on the economy and in particular, inflation: Biden's intentional war on fossil fuels energy disaster started by Obama. Why anti environmental and bird/bat killing wind and solar can NEVER come close to replacing fossil fuels. The cost = 433 Trillion!. Government forcing anti environmental wind/solar on the market. Stifling new investments in crude and natural gas. 2022
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/85535/
Life without petroleum based products: 6,000 products made with petroleum. Killing Coal. Fossil fuels and fertilizer. Biden praises high gasoline prices.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/84689/ 2022
Did people who bought their electric vehicle know this would happen?
Did people who had fires realize the risk?
Do people who buy them appreciate that the electricity they charge them with came from burning fossil fuels?
That going all electric will increase demand on the power grid by 40% making it extremely unstable, especially since part of the plan is to eliminate stabilizing coal and natural gas that are ALWAYS reliable.
To replace fossil fuels would require covering massive areas of the US with wind monstrosities and solar farms. They lie and tell us just small areas and that it will create massive jobs and the cost is small.
The cost is around 420 Trillion or 20 times the GDP.
The worst part is an indisputable fact that sometimes the wind doesn't blow and sun doesn't shine, especially in Winter in the north. It doesn't matter if your entire state is covered in fake green energy gadgets to capture the sun and wind then. You will have no power at those times.
Heat waves feature no wind. Wind turbines shut down during high wind events. Cold waves feature no sun. There is no grid scale battery storage.
The entities that actually make a living projecting the future of energy know dang well that this is a fraud.
At least they have finally started come to the realization that nuclear energy is the way to go for clean electricity!
Energy transition is a hoax
31 responses
Started by metmike - April 15, 2023, 5:50 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/94557/
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/98944/#100014
China has a monopoly on the rare earth metals
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/98944/#100063
Nuclear Power-Hallelujah-Amen!
Started by metmike - Dec. 3, 2023, 5:13 a.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/100999/
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/101621/#101762
None of this would exist if it were purely based on practicality, efficiency and cost.
Not only does this NOT save the planet.........it WRECKS the planet and has ZERO impact on climate, with Asia building more NEW coal fired power plants than we have left to shut down. CO2 is well mixed in the global atmosphere.
And the increase in CO2 is greening up the planet by 25% and increasing global food production by 25% because of the REAL SCIENCE........the LAW of photosynthesis.
The optimal level for most life is 900 parts per million. We're at 420 ppm.
Cold still kills 10+ times more people than heat on this planet.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/weather/2015/05/20/cold-weather-deaths/27657269/
The yearly range for average temperatures in a place like Evansville, IN from coldest to hottest time of year is 20 degrees for lows in January to 90 degrees for highs in July. That's a 70 degree temperature range EVERY SINGLE YEAR that life is accustomed to. When you dial in the natural variation of weather, it goes from near 0 degrees to 100 degrees EVERY SINGLE YEAR.
But we are told that life can't adjust to an increase in temperatures of +2 degrees in 100 years?
What the heck, it adjusts to a 100 degree temperature swing every year now!
In fact, the optimal temperature for the planet IS 2 degrees warmer than this! Similar to the temperatures during the Holocene Climate OPTIMUM in the higher latitudes(with LESS Arctic sea ice), between 9,000 and 5,000 years ago. We are having a climate optimum, not a climate crisis.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocene_climatic_optimum
They hijacked climate science and even rewrote climate history to create the greatest scientific hoax in history.
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Everything that I just stated sounds insane because peoples brains have been flooded with junk science, disinformation, fake green concepts and promises that defy the laws of energy/physics, economics and the environment.
Sensationalized, made up reasons for extreme weather that has always happened. Telling us that it's the hottest in 100,000 years.
The biggest gift that humans have ever given to the planet is the increase in beneficial CO2.
We were at dangerously LOW levels of atmospheric CO2 before the Industrial revolution pulled fossil fuels(from previous carbon life forms that consumed it and got buried/sequestered underground after they died).
Take away that increase in CO2 from 290 ppm to 420 ppm and 1 billion humans would starve to death within 3 years. That's the 100% authentic science because food production would plunge 25%.
However, reading that rock solid fact doesn't compute because our brains have been flooded with junk science that defines what everybody now thinks that they know.....causing them to only be able to recognize and accept information that lines up with what they think that they know.
A beneficial gas, the building block for all of life, currently at half the optimal level..........we are instead brainwashed to believe.......is now a toxic pollutant killing the planet.........as the increase in CO2 massively greens up the planet and most life begs for MORE!
Death by GREENING!
35 responses
Started by metmike - May 11, 2021, 2:31 p.m.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Lindzen
Richard Siegmund Lindzen (born February 8, 1940) is an American atmospheric physicist known for his work in the dynamics of the middle atmosphere, atmospheric tides, and ozone photochemistry. He is the author of more than 200 scientific papers. From 1972 to 1982, he served as the Gordon McKay Professor of Dynamic Meteorology at Harvard University. In 1983, he was appointed as the Alfred P. Sloan Professor of Meteorology at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, where he would remain until his retirement in 2013.[2][1] Lindzen has disputed the scientific consensus on climate change and criticizes what he has called "climate alarmism".[3][4]
https://www.azquotes.com/author/30824-Richard_Lindzen
To say that climate change will be catastrophic hides a cascade of value-laden assumptions that do not emerge from empirical science. Richard Lindzen
In brief, we have the new paradigm where simulation and programs have replaced theory and observation, where government largely determines the nature of scientific activity, and where the primary role of professional societies is the lobbying of the government for special advantage. Richard Lindzen
According to any textbook on dynamic meteorology, one may reasonably conclude that in a warmer world, extratropical storminess and weather variability will actually decrease. Richard Lindzen
The primary role of professional societies is the lobbying of the government for special advantage Richard Lindzen
https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/bidens-ev-insanity-got-worse
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John Kerry's accusation of disinformation is actually the truth for objective sources that use proven facts, evidence/observations and science for authentic discernment…..the opposite of his Junk science and manufactured, complete nonsense!
All the disinformation about them comes from people like Kerry/corrupt politicians and scientists, crony capitalists, misinformed but sincere science illiterate environmentalists and dishonest, ratings seeking, activist media.
They are doing the polar opposite of saving the planet. Wind farms/turbines are WRECKING the planet and having near 0% impact on the global climate.
Wind turbines killing whales too
36 responses |
Started by metmike - Jan. 13, 2023, 10:07 p.m.
https://fortune.com/2023/07/13/john-kerry-stupid-lie-private-jets-climate-change-house-republicans/
Kerry singled that out as “one of the most outrageously persistent lies that I hear, which is this private jet.”
“I don’t own a private jet. I personally have never owned a private jet,” Kerry said, adding that it was “pretty stupid” to talk about coming to Capitol Hill by private jet from his office at the State Department.
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Private Jet » Owner » John Kerry
https://www.superyachtfan.com/private-jet/owner/john-kerry-teresa-heinz/
| Name: | John Kerry |
| Country: | USA |
| Net Worth: | $200 million |
| Company: | Forbes / HJ Heinz |
| Born: | December 11, 1943 |
| Wife: | 80 |
| Residence: | Martha’s Vineyard, Massachusetts |
| Jet Registration: | N57HJ |
| Jet Type: | Gulfstream GIV |
| Year: | 1995 |
| Jet S/N: | 1261 |
| Price: | $5 million |
BUSTED!!!
Almost everything this guy says about climate, energy and environmentalism is a lie!
January 20, 2024
It is hard to overestimate the significance of this new revelation:
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Tesla Model 3 drives through floodwaters with ease. Since it doesn’t have a combustion engine, it doesn't need air to operate and has fewer mechanical components that could be damaged by water.
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BULL!
Not bullish, BULLXXXX!!
The market isn't stupid. In this case the market is always right. I won't go into another anti EV screed because the pictures/graphs below are worth 1,000 words.
https://tradingeconomics.com/tsla:us
Keep in mind, that the stock market is on an upward bullish tear to record highs!
https://tradingeconomics.com/ndx:ind
https://fortune.com/2024/03/15/ceo-steps-down-prices-following-purchase-teslas/
More of the same:
1. 1 year
2. 10 year
https://tradingeconomics.com/tsla:us
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For comparison: Stock Market
https://tradingeconomics.com/ndx:ind
The market is telling us loud and clear what energy sources it thinks has value/and what doesn't have value, moving forward!
Wind, Solar and Ethanol = NOT GOOD
Nuclear = GOOD
https://tradingeconomics.com/commodity/wind
https://tradingeconomics.com/commodity/solar
https://tradingeconomics.com/commodity/ethanol
https://tradingeconomics.com/commodity/nuclear
Compare those charts to the stock market:
Currently 30.10 or 23% of its high in 2011
Looks a little different in a different time span.
Nuclear Energy Index - Price - Chart - Historical Data - News (tradingeconomics.com)
Not saying nuclear is bad, just pointing out the reference points can and do make all the difference.
cutworm,
This is actually a wonderful point and I looked at every time frame for all these graphs and decided that, because there are so many, I shouldn't include different times frames for each one of in an already long thread not even about those markets. Only the ones that provide the most value/understanding.
Also, the worded explanation is extraordinary misleading(not intentional by you) because the market was totally different over a decade ago and showing a longer term graph can be confusing too.
Gives a different impression, below doesn't it but the reader misses what matters most. The last 5 years.
https://tradingeconomics.com/commodity/nuclear
Here's the others at the max time frame:
Solar is the same misleading, similar really bad looking pattern:
https://tradingeconomics.com/commodity/solar
Wind to a lesser extent but similar:
https://tradingeconomics.com/commodity/wind
Ethanol going back that far is actually a better reflection of reality.
https://tradingeconomics.com/commodity/ethanol
Regardless, this is a very profound post by you and in fact, we'll make it "post of the week" and create a new thread out of it for additional discussion and charts.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/24/business/ford-earnings-ev-losses/index.html
New York CNN —
Ford’s electric vehicle unit reported that losses soared in the first quarter to $1.3 billion, or $132,000 for each of the 10,000 vehicles it sold in the first three months of the year, helping to drag down earnings for the company overall.
Ford, like most automakers, has announced plans to shift from traditional gas-powered vehicles to EVs in coming years. But it is the only traditional automaker to break out results of its retail EV sales. And the results it reported Wednesday show another sign of the profit pressures on the EV business at Ford and other automakers.
Tesla continues to get crushed..........but there must have been some VERY BULLISH news on Wednesday that caused a big spike higher ON THE OPEN that had follow thru on Thu/Fri!
https://tradingeconomics.com/tsla:us
1. 10 years
2. 1 year
3. 1 week
https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2024/05/20/electric-van-sales-in-decline/#more-73480
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2024/05/21/electric-van-sales-in-decline/
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The above article is from the UK.
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In the US, government mandates, rebates, crony capitalism and misinformed media using propaganda are keeping this market going even as it stalls out:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8ruuYiPVp4
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May 14, 2024
https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=62063
JOE BLOW WILL CALL 'EM OUT ON THAT. LOL
LOLOLOL
WHAT FUNNNNNNNNNN HAHAHAHHAAA A "SHORT"
Great system!
Thanks, Jean!
Inevitable because you can bs about the laws of physics/energy/science/economics on paper with empty promises to lure people in but not in the REAL world.
The manufactured world of promises was 2021 and previous years. The REAL world with actual electric cars judged on performance/value is 2022-2024.
https://tradingeconomics.com/tsla:us
1. 5 years
2. 1 year
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Keep in mind that this is what the stock market looks like. Doubling in price during a time when Tesla has dropped to half of its price 2 years ago!
Tells you everything you need to know about the true value in the minds of the market.
https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/stock-market
LOL INO, NO ONE IN THEIR RIGHT MIND WOULD SPEND $$$$$$$$$$ ON A FUTURISTIC VEHICLE, UNTIL IT PROVED ITSELF WORTHY.
I REMEMBER WHEN I AROUND 8 YEARS YOUNG... IT WAS EXPECTED THAT BY THE TIME I WAS 52, THE MAIN MODE OF PERSONAL TRANSPORTATION WOULD BE A BACKPACK OF FUEL & WE'D FLY TO OUR DESTINATION. MY 1ST THOUGHT WAS.... "WEEEEEEEEEE"... MY 2ND THOUGHT WAS " AAACCCCCK!!! I'LL BE IN MY 50'S!!"... MY FINAL THOUGHT, 35 YEARS LATER: " HOW COULD I HAVE BEEN SO STUPID TO BELIEVE THAT?!!!" LOLOLOLOL
Tesla showing GREAT STRENGTH recently.
Is this tied to Elon Musk potentially being part of the Trump administration? We've quickly doubled in price shortly after he entered the political picture aggressively at the start of May, when Tesla spiked much higher to almost double the price in just 2 months.
Breaking the down trend from the 2022 highs. At very strong resistance, above which is a clear upside breakout.
https://tradingeconomics.com/tsla:us
1. At 1 year highs and very stout resistance.
2. 10 years: Broken downtrend line from numerous lower highs after the spike 2022 high..... BUT we need to clear this very strong resistance are to confirm! The price needed to do that depends on perspective but +300 would do it by all standards!!! This also looks like a symmetrical wedge formation with the lower highs AND ALSO some higher lows.
https://www.npr.org/2024/10/16/g-s1-28591/elon-musk-donald-trump-america-pac-fec
Musk, estimated to be the world's richest person, was the sole donor to the political action committee he created, America PAC, a group that spent about $72 million to support Donald Trump's reelection bid between July and September, according to a new quarterly filing with the Federal Election Commission.
Since its launch in May, Musk's super PAC has quickly emerged as a key piece of the effort to return Trump to the White House, working to turn out the vote in key swing states. Musk endorsed Trump in July following the failed assassination attempt against the former president, and has gone on to become a vocal supporter.
