latest from Steven Sund
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Started by mcfarm - Jan. 21, 2024, 6:42 p.m.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5x0iGvQVfNc   yes there are a few that do not want this guy seen or heard from,,,he was there before during and after. He has never wavered, never changed from Day 1. Has not hidden like Pelosi and company or lie and cheated like Pelosi  and company or tried to use Jan 6th for any political reason like Pelosi and company

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By metmike - Jan. 21, 2024, 8:34 p.m.
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Thanks,mcfarm,

Pelosi stopping him from bringing in the National Guard is a lie busted here numerous times.

The only reason you believe Tucker and this guy (who got fired by Pelosi) is they are saying things you want to believe in. You WILL ALWAYS  believe because of that. No matter how much overwhelming, indisputable, irrefutable, rock solid evidence that I show here to prove they are lying........YOU WILL ALWAYS BELIEVE THEM!


The nice thing about you guys continuing to believe things like the Ray Eps complete nonsense and continuing to post on it here, is that I also spent dozens of hours investigating the AUTHENTIC facts and completely debunked it..........over and over and its on the record. So all I need to do it copy the link with all the proof again for you to not believe again instead of spending hours gathering all the evidence each time, all over again.


                Steven Sund Capitol police, Jan 6 was preventable                        

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                Started by cutworm - Sept. 20, 2023, 11:39 p.m.

            https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/99142/#99164

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Here's more proof below of your nefarious sources lying to you on the bs of Pelosi blocking the National Guard when she did the complete opposite(Trump was the one refusing to act for 3 hours, instead watching it all live on a monitor and enjoying ever second).

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This video shows that he and Tucker are lying when they say "For 71 minutes, Nancy Pelosi would't allow you to bring in the National Guard." 

You can read the massive proof at the 1st link above debunking cutworm's post and more added below just for you. IT WAS DONALD TRUMP THAT REFUSED TO ACT, FOR HOURS even with people from his family begging him to do something. 


WATCH: New footage of Pelosi calling for help from other jurisdictions during Jan. 6 Capitol attack

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5u8Mk7clHc



AP fact check rates GOP claim Pelosi blocked National Guard on Jan. 6 ‘false’

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/565221-ap-fact-check-rates-gop-claim-pelosi-blocked-national-guard-on-jan-6-false/

https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-235651652542

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House panel says Trump ‘chose not to act’ during attack on US Capitol

Committee investigating January 6 riots shared testimony showing that ex-president rejected pleas from even his family

“President Trump did not fail to act during the 187 minutes between leaving the Ellipse and telling the mob to go home. He chose not to act,” Kinzinger said.

Trump only decided to tell his supporters to leave the Capitol once it became clear that their attempts to disrupt the congressional certification of the election would prove fruitless, the committee argued. In a now infamous video message shared to Twitter on the afternoon of 6 January, Trump told the rioters to disperse while also praising them.

“Go home. We love you. You’re very special,” Trump said in the video.


By metmike - Jan. 21, 2024, 8:40 p.m.
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Please note bamboozle item #13 below:

                 THE FALL OF MINNEAPOLIS            

                            By metmike - Dec. 23, 2023, 12:28 a.m.            

          I have proved these things with all the rock solid evidence over and over here but people that don't want to believe..........just go to their sources that grant their wishes of believing in a fake world that lines up with all their ideologies.....  by telling them manufactured versions of stories which leave out inconvenient facts that they don't want to be true and replace them with other false narratives/facts that have been proven to be blatant lies, over and over.

That's why people go to these charlatans. The charlatans know it and by design, they exploit people's desire to believe certain things by stating those things. Many of them actually believe their own manure because they too want it to be true. Repeating convincing sounding lies will often beat the truth if enough people do it and enough people believe them.

1. George Floyd died from a fentanyl overdose not the reality of the execution that we watched on tape for 9+ minutes and every authentic medial authority testified to-R

2. The Ds stole the 2020 election using a yet to be discovered, magical mystery scheme-R

3. Trump was exercising his First Amendment rights, not the reality of trying to overturn the most secure presidential election in history with diabolical schemes-R

4. The fake climate crisis is killing the planet, NOT the reality of the planet greening up from the beneficial increase of CO2 and experiencing the best weather/climate for MOST life in 1,000 years..........the last time that it was this warm during the Medieval WARM Period-D

5.  The COVID vaccine kills more people than the virus-R

6.  Trump colluded with Russia and that's how he beat Hillary Clinton in 2016-D

7. Biden did nothing wrong and the Rs are just being political-D

8. Hunter just had a drug problem which caused him to make a few bad choices-D

9. Biden isn't too old or suffering major cognitive decline. He's always made gaffes-D

10. Israel is just defending itself and trying to minimize suffering for innocent people NOT using 20,000 lb dumb bombs on targets that include housing units, churches and historical sites. Starving 2+ million, 99% who are not Hamas, most that are homeless. Depriving them of fresh water, fuel/power and medical supplies/treatment. Killing 20,000+, injuring 50,000+ the majority being children and women. This is not really Genocide or dehumanizing by ethnically superior Israel-R

11 a.  Putin will invade Europe and NATO countries if we don't stop him in Ukraine. Putin didn't really just want Ukraine to agree to stay out of NATO and we would have avoided the war completely.-D+R

11 b. We are supporting Ukraine and Ukrainians. NOT using them to fight our war, NOT getting over 500,000 dehumanized people killed(from both sides), 1 trillion in damages, widespread poverty, millions leaving the country, half their army dead or permanently disabled For the Biden/NATO agenda. Ukraine didn't really lose the war months ago-D+R

11 c. Zelensky is a hero NOT a betrayer of  his people and election promise to negotiate peace with Russia and becoming a Biden/NATO PUPPET to get fame and glory while they use him and his country to have THEIR war to weaken Russia because they hate Putins guts D+R

12. My favorite lack of common sense. The insurrection was caused by the FBI in order to frame President Trump. Ray Epps was their leader and he incited thousands of people to riot, not president trump-R

*13. Trump called 20,000 national guard troops to control the crowd but Nancy Pelosi blocked them from coming-R

14. There’s no immigration crisis on the southern border-D

15. The police are systemically racist. The US is systemically racist-D


These are not exceptions  but instead, identify the topics and dynamics which define the brainwashing by gatekeepers in 2023, using advanced technology of communications  to exploit people's cognitive bias, telling them what they want to hear/read and telling them how/what to think using propaganda, DISinformation and false narratives.


I counted 7 Rs and  7 Ds, along with the only one they united on...........the propaganda on the Ukraine war, only because BOTH SIDES are benefiting from  the millions in legal bribing lobby money gushing into their political accounts from the military-industrial complex and the sensationalizing, dishonest, yellow journalism,  ratings for profits driven media is in cahoots on, like they are on much of the above topics. Without the media being mouthpieces delivering the propaganda on topics like the Ukraine war for both sides and the fake climate crisis of the left, the brainwashing would be impossible.

On the far right, Fox and similar sources steal the intelligence of their viewers ….with charismatic charlatans, granting the wishes of viewers during every show by telling people what they want to hear   In a world where their party is infallible and the other party is doo Doo, to obtain blockbuster ratings.



By metmike - Jan. 21, 2024, 8:43 p.m.
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Less than a week ago, we had another loony tunes discussion on the Ray Epps nonsense, which was bamboozle item #12 on the list.

                ray epps                       

                Started by mcfarm - Jan. 15, 2024, 12:27 p.m.     

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/101729/


Note how easy that was for me.

I did all the work previously and just need to cut and paste a copy of it. 

mcfarm,

The point is that you are my friend and it pains me to see people taking advantage of you like this for their self serving interests/agenda.  Stealing your intelligence and brainwashing you.


However, I realize that this will always be true:

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Regardless, I know that you guys really like this great person:


                Thomas Sowell Interview , "Social Justice Fallacies"            

                            Started by cutworm - Dec. 18, 2023, 6:19 p.m.            https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/101353/

By mcfarm - Jan. 22, 2024, 2 p.m.
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MM, not going to get into a big thing here. Just not going to do it. Do you not know that Tucker is analyst, an opinion person, a question asker , not answerer, Seems some of the time{most} you come back at people with a long critique of the questions, not answers. In that regard you pay little mind to someone like Sund and instead concentrate your answer on the opinion man with lots data, mock his data, and research. What is important is Sund and where was and what he was doing. He can verify and has done so under oath in front of congress. Meanwhile Pelosi hides and the D's and media go over backward to protect her and her falsehoods. 

By metmike - Jan. 22, 2024, 4:38 p.m.
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Again, mcfarm,

100 people say the opposite of this guy but you believe him because what he says is what you want to believe.

This isn't a debate, like you think that it is. That was settled a long time ago.

It's an example of how people only believe information that tells them what they want to believe and discard 100 times more information that contradicts it.

Everybody does it to some extent. 

The point isn't whether this is hogwash and the Ray Epps stuff is hogwash. Of course it's complete nonsense. The point is..........why in tarnation would people believe in such stuff?

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/101461/

The sources pushing this nonsense are dishonest charlatans targeting people they know will believe because those people WANT to believe it.

Trump's entire persona is based on this.  He's the greatest cult leader in our history that has captured far right brains by telling them things they want to believe. 

Elon Musk, Tucker Carlson, Mark Levin and Shawn Hannity use the same strategies to manipulate people on the far right.

The left uses the same tactics to bamboozle people about the current climate optimum for most life on this greening planet.

Who could possibly be against  people that are "saving the planet"?  People will always support solutions that save the planet. 

While the reality is that the optimal level of CO2 on this planet for plants and most life is double the current 420 parts per million. And the optimal temperature is warmer than this.

And it was 2 degrees warmer than this in the higher latitudes, with less Arctic ice just 6,000 years ago and authentic science has always referred to that period as the "Holocene Climate Optimum"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocene_climatic_optimum


mcfarm,

You don't believe in the climate crisis.........not because you're a scientist or understand climate better than Al Gore but you don't want to believe in it because your sources tell you not to believe in it. 

Some of the same sources are telling you to believe in the manure that started this thread.

The main difference between me and most people is that I call out BOTH SIDES when they lie and will support one side or person, like Trump when they are telling the truth, regardless of how much I dislike them.

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/77011/#86468

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/77011/#88222

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/77011/#88686

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/77011/#89534

                

                By metmike - Oct. 7, 2022, 12:05 p.m.                                             

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/89533/

Neither political party has a franchise on the truth.

If you believe one party all the time......................you will believe in lies some of the time.

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Addition:

"The trick is being able to tell the difference between the truth and the lies, then picking the truth from BOTH parties and rejecting their lies.

What makes that incredibly difficult to do is that the stronger your affiliation to a party is,  the more blindly you embrace all the tenets of their belief system!