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Started by metmike - April 17, 2024, 4:57 p.m.


Bragg's Trump indictment is a campaign promise kept

   https://www.oleantimesherald.com/opinion/braggs-trump-indictment-is-a-campaign-promise-kept/article_e7f11833-3c5b-52b7-9c5b-a1018943c3cf.html

Alvin Bragg, the local district attorney in Manhattan who has led the effort to indict former President Donald Trump, is an elected official. He ran for his current office in 2021. In that campaign, he won a Democratic primary crowded with fellow Democrats who promised that, if elected, they would go after Trump.

Now, having been elected, Bragg is going after Trump.

Getting Trump has been a common feature in New York elections for law enforcement positions. The 2018 campaign for state attorney general was a virtual bidding war in which each candidate promised to pursue Trump more zealously than the other candidates. The winner, Attorney General Letitia James, has been unable to come up with criminal charges against Trump personally, but she did, along with Bragg, prosecute the Trump Organization on questionable grounds — or, if not questionable, at least grounds that led observers to wonder whether the case would have been pursued with such fervor against an organization not named Trump.

Now Bragg has won the indict-Trump sweepstakes. And for him, indicting Trump on charges that seem truly questionable is more than just indicting Trump. It is keeping a campaign promise.

Bragg believed he had a special qualification for the job. Again, from the Times: “Mr. Bragg, a former official with the New York attorney general’s office, reminds voters frequently that in his former job, he sued Mr. Trump’s administration ‘more than a hundred times.’”

In the end, for Bragg and the Democratic officials who have pressed the Trump indictment, and for the supporters who have cheered them on, it’s not really about the question of whether Trump committed the misdemeanor offense of falsifying business records and whether that misdemeanor can be properly increased to a felony by alleging some other illegal act. It’s about holding Trump “accountable” and thus satisfying many Democrats’ pent-up demand for “accountability” for the former president.

That’s why the Manhattan indictment is more of a campaign promise fulfilled than a legal case.

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By metmike - April 17, 2024, 5:16 p.m.
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NEWSPress Releases

District Attorney Bragg Announces 34-Count Felony Indictment of Former President Donald J. Trump

April 4, 2023

https://manhattanda.org/district-attorney-bragg-announces-34-count-felony-indictment-of-former-president-donald-j-trump/

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If this were any other place but NY, there is no way this "target and prosecute Trump and violate his rights" nonsense would be going on.  If these were any other people except those from NY on the jury, there is no chance that  he would be found guilty of nonsense felony crimes. 

Despite that, I have high confidence that the jurors will do the right thing and find him not guilty. We should note that the previous NONSENSE trials  were intentionally conducted in CIVIL court. This was because they knew they would lose in criminal court. Criminal court PROTECTS THE DEFENDANT  by requiring the prosecutor to actually prove the case "beyond a reasonable doubt."

They were able to get away with much more shenanigans with those nonsense trials. If there's an iota of objectivity and  justice left in NY on this issue, then Bragg is going down here. 

The Differences Between a Criminal Case and a Civil Case

https://www.findlaw.com/criminal/criminal-law-basics/the-differences-between-a-criminal-case-and-a-civil-case.html

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Previous CIVIL trials prosecuting  Trump:


Previous related thread on this:

                Trump civil fraud trial-nonsense          

                32 responses |              

                Started by metmike - Nov. 12, 2023, 2:43 a.m.      

     https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/100509/


 Trump rape case            

                            20 responses |          

                Started by metmike - May 3, 2023, 9:33 p.m.    

    https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/94926/

                    


By WxFollower - April 17, 2024, 5:18 p.m.
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 Though I’m not trying to minimize its importance, I’m much more interested in how the GA case as well as the fake stolen election and 1/6/21 related case as those are more reflective of the threat to democracy than the hush money.

By metmike - April 17, 2024, 5:22 p.m.
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Larry,

I agree 100% with you!!!!!!

Trump did commit crimes in those cases in my opinion, especially related to him trying to overturn the results of the 2020 election with diabolical schemes.

Honestly, its sort of a subconscious desire to  not turn this into the Trump soap opera forum and spend too much time on a divisive topic  but realize it's a very important topic and will start threads on that too.

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I'll start new threads on those MUCH more serious trials for legit infractions ASAP.

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Those other trials, that you refer to and have not been decided, you would have thought would be cut and dry using the mountain of evidence against Trump to convict him. Instead,  issues (distractions/soap operas) unrelated to whether Trump did the crimes or not have been making the headline news. 

By metmike - April 22, 2024, 10:15 a.m.
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Trump's First Criminal Trial Is Enough to Cost Him the Election | Opinion

https://www.newsweek.com/trumps-first-criminal-trial-enough-cost-him-election-opinion-1892760

And the trial comes at a huge opportunity cost for Trump. It takes away the biggest advantage any campaign has—the candidate's time.

The contrast and opportunity this hands the Biden campaign could not have been any clearer than it was last week. While Trump was confined in court like a common criminal, Biden spent the week barnstorming across Pennsylvania talking about lowering taxes and bringing manufacturing jobs back to the United States. It's a movie we're likely to see play out over and over again: Trump in court and Biden in battleground states. And since Trump has funneled the vast majority of his campaign resources into his legal defense, he will struggle to make up for his lack of ability to travel with TV ads and other ways to reach voters in the states that will decide the election.

So, no. Up is not down. Bad is not good. The laws of political gravity have not been bent by Donald Trump. And sitting for a criminal trial in the middle of a presidential campaign is not a good thing.

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Mr. Gordon makes some great points.............very compelling election interference being the strongest one!  

With regards to Biden on the campaign trail.............last time, Hiden Joe Biden is what won him the election, the more we see Joe Biden in 2024, the more it HURTS Joe Biden because of what it reveals about him.          

        Joe Biden confuses Israeli city with Rafah in latest gaffe

https://www.facebook.com/SkyNewsAustralia/videos/937170171240889/


Biden-Trump Gaffe Tracker: Biden Confuses Gaza’s Rafah With Israeli City Haifa

https://www.forbes.com/sites/saradorn/2024/04/21/biden-trump-gaffe-tracker-biden-confuses-gazas-rafah-with-israeli-city-haifa/?sh=6ef1467f4b8b

By metmike - April 24, 2024, 10:18 a.m.
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I tuned into CNN a dozen times yesterday to see what they were covering, starting early in the morning and last time, past midnight.

Every time, 100% they were covering Trump's trial. 

Talking heads with TDS, twisting everything in 1 direction and being cheerleaders for a hoped for outcome NOT objective news reporting and definitely not professional journalism.

But for sure, giving us the programming that will generate the highest ratings and what people want.  A soap opera that exploits and amplifies peoples hatred of Trump (TDS) against brainwashed people in Trump's cult.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_journalism

Yellow journalism and yellow press are American terms for journalism and associated newspapers that present little or no legitimate, well-researched news while instead using eye-catching headlines for increased sales.[1][non-primary source needed] Techniques may include exaggerations of news events, scandal-mongering, or sensationalism. By extension, the term yellow journalism came to mean stories that were emotional or exaggerated and featured topics like crime, sex or violence.


BTW, I didn't bother to watch/listen to the silliness for more than a couple of minutes. I actually watch CNN a great deal and enjoy much of their solid reporting at other times.

I also watch Fox and ABC news as well as listen to NPR on the radio in my car. 


Maybe I will watch more later this week and after that have more comments.

Trump did some things wrong, including having an affair and likely committed some misdemeanors but some of the charges are absurd. 

They are doing a great job with their blatant and successful election interference scheme of 2024. 

Ironically, that's one of the charges again Trump in 2016...........election interference. 

But it's ok when they do it, like with covering up/lying about Hunter's laptop before the 2020 election. Previously with their handling of Hillary Clinton's crimes before the 2016 election. 

These people will make up charges/rules to target people they want to destroy, while letting other people they want elected get away with the exact same thing. Actually, its not the people getting away with it, its THEM, the criminal justice system that's doing it!

By metmike - May 1, 2024, 10:46 a.m.
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Latest nonsense:

Takeaways from Day 9 of the Trump hush money trial    

https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/30/politics/takeaways-donald-trump-hush-money-trial-day-nine/index.html


Hush money trial judge raises threat of jail as he finds Trump violated gag order, fines him $9K

https://apnews.com/article/trump-stormy-daniels-hush-money-election-2024-d2f9badee0b28a60d32bc98c0d4e783f


Poll: Majority of Americans aren’t paying attention to Trump’s hush money trial

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/poll-majority-of-americans-arent-paying-attention-to-trumps-hush-money-trial

By 12345 - May 3, 2024, 5:18 p.m.
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By metmike - May 4, 2024, 10:35 a.m.
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thanks very much, Jean,

This guy spins a few things 1 way but makes numerous extremely solid points.

Ive been meaning to show the legal findings  against her and for Trump, along the financial penalty against her and for Trump in a REAL court and will do that next week after I get back from Chicago.

The Ds TDS narrative to vote against him in November is that we’ll lose our democracy if Trump is elected.

These first 3 trials against Trump are indisputable evidence that we already lost our democracy especially in NY.

The biased justice department can just single out specific targets and manufacture bogus crimes with laughable, nonsense evidence using extremely corrupt prosecutors and judges.

Then, the media will use yellow journalism with its  wall to wall coverage cheering it on instead of calling it out.

Thats no democracy. These are CRIMES against Trump getting the stamp of approval by powerful gatekeepers in our government, justice system and media.

I greatly despise Trump, personally but respect his rights as a citizen that actually cares about a legit democracy in our country……not the  ANTI/fake democracy these diabolical, scheming entities are trying to sell us.


By 12345 - May 4, 2024, 12:07 p.m.
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MIKE... THERE AIN'T ANY OF US PERFECT, WHILE STILL ON EARTH.   

I HOPE TRUMP REFUSES A COGNITIVE TEST, LIKE JOE BLOW HAS.  CONGRESS COULD'VE LEGITIMATELY USED THE 25TH AMENDMENT TO GET RID OF JOE BLOW, BUT...... NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!  CACKLE BRAINS HARRIS WOULD'VE BEEN IN PANIC MODE, IF SHE'DA EVER GOTTEN THE "V" REMOVED FROM HER TITLE. (HOW'D SHE DO ON HER COGNITIVE TEST?)    

By metmike - May 7, 2024, 10 a.m.
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Donald Trump Hush Money Trial Live Updates: Stormy Daniels to Testify Today

https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/4647267-witness-testimony-trump-hush-money-trial/

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Nothing against Daniels because of her profession but her previous history in this case really destroys her credibility. Actually, it OBLITERATES her credibility!

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Judge dismisses Stormy Daniels libel suit against Trump

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/10/15/stormy-daniels-trump-libel-suit-903152

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Porn star Stormy Daniels loses appeal in Trump case, vows ‘I will go to jail before I pay a penny’ of $300,000

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/03/22/porn-star-stormy-daniels-loses-appeal-of-trump-case.html

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Stormy Daniels owes Trump $600K but no one’s talking about it

https://news.meaww.com/stormy-daniels-owes-donald-trump-600-k-but-no-ones-talking-about-it

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Michael Avenatti, newly sentenced for extortion, faces trial this week for allegedly defrauding clients    

https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/21/politics/michael-avenatti-second-trial/index.html

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Court upholds Michael Avenatti conviction for defrauding porn star Stormy Daniels

https://www.reuters.com/legal/court-upholds-michael-avenatti-conviction-defrauding-stormy-daniels-2024-03-06/

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Michael Avenatti ordered to pay $148,740 in restitution to Stormy Daniels
https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/27/politics/michael-avenatti-stormy-daniels/index.html

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‘Have I Hit Bottom?’: Michael Avenatti and the Fall of a Trump-Era Antihero

The man once seen as a leader of the Trump resistance is now fighting prison — and historical obscurity.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2021/12/22/michael-avenatti-rise-and-fall-house-arrest-profile-525301

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Stormy Daniels reaches settlement with Michael Cohen and her former attorney

https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/17/politics/stormy-daniels-michael-cohen-settlement/index.html

  

By metmike - May 7, 2024, 10:48 a.m.
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    Michael Avenatti goes from media darling to criminal suspect  

       

LOS ANGELES (AP) — Michael Avenatti seemingly came out of nowhere, a sharply dressed lawyer with a penetrating gaze who said he would prove President Donald Trump had sex with a porn star and paid her off to keep quiet ahead of the 2016 election.

Suddenly, Avenatti was everywhere — on Twitter, talking to any camera put in front of him, appearing at rallies and becoming a guest on late-night talk shows, baiting Trump with insults as the president denied having an affair with porn actress Stormy Daniels.

He appeared on cable news shows dozens of times, especially CNN and MSNBC.

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Stormy Daniels claims she never trusted attorney Michael Avenatti, who 'used his powers for evil'

 Daniels said she was forced to hire Avenatti, the former liberal media darling who is now in prison

Avenatti appeared across all the major cable news networks over 250 times between February 2018 and 2019, according to the Media Research Center.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/stormy-daniels-claims-never-trusted-attorney-michael-avenatti-used-powers-evil

metmike: This was during the insanely corrupt, Mueller/justice departments "get Trump" investigation. A time frame when fraudulence like the type that Daniel's perpetrated, using criminals like Michal Avenatti got top dollar........which is what Daniel's was after.

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The rise and fall of Michael Avenatti, the former high-profile lawyer best known for representing Stormy Daniels in her suit against Trump, now serving a 20-year prison term

https://www.businessinsider.com/michael-avenatti-bio-lawyer-representing-stormy-daniels-2018-3

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Stormy Daniels’ Description of Sex With Trump Is All Too Familiar for Sex Workers

https://www.thedailybeast.com/stormy-daniels-description-of-sex-with-trump-is-all-too-familiar-for-sex-workers

Stormy Daniels has suffered a lot for her truth, and this is what comes through most clearly in the documentary. A plucky, resilient, funny woman who is unafraid to go head-to-head with the president of the United States of America. She is unafraid and she will not be cornered again.

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They want us to see poor Stormy Daniels as a victim of Trump's

She had sex with somebody WILLINGLY, then when that person is running for president, she decided she could make big bucks because of it. She  WILLINGLY took $130,000 to keep quiet about it with a legal non disclosure document that she signed with Cohan and claims she was a victim?

I'll bet SHE doesn't have any other clients that gave her $130,000 for a 1 night stand.

THEN, SHE decided that $130,000 wasn't enough when Trump became the president and hired a corrupt lawyer and break/violate the terms of the LEGAL nondisclosure agreement between them TO MAKE EVEN MORE MONEY off the 1 night stand that SHE agreed to.

Where's the place where SHE is a victim when looking at the authentic facts?

SHE was a nobody and now SHE'S a huge celebrity. SHE got a ton of money for her book.......only because of this.

SHE agreed to this act. SHE hired the corrupt attorney to get more. SHE got a ton of money for her book. SHE got greedy and  broke the terms of the legal nondisclosure agreement to make even more. SHE lost in REAL court when claiming that Trump defamed her.

SHE'S tried to make even more money off of this with several key decisions.

A victim doesn't have the choice to say NO in order to make it stop.

SHE made most of the choices to go down this path based on greed and benefits to HER. 

No way that the prosecutor would have a case that she was a victim and this is justice for her(they claim other insane, criminal violations).

 I'll bet that she's hoping the biased justice system in NY finds Trump guilty THEN she'll file a civil suit against him so that SHE can make even more money from this corrupt political/election interference nonsense.

By metmike - May 7, 2024, 6:50 p.m.
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Trump trial live updates: Donald Trump's lawyer asks Stormy Daniels whether she hates him

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2024/05/07/donald-trump-trial-news-hush-money-case-live-updates/73593085007/

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There's numerous items that can be debated and in some cases no evidence to prove either side. However, there are others with rock solid proof and/or common sense to guide us.

One of them, for me relates to where Daniel's is coming from. 

It's crystal clear that she has been trying to make money on this 1 night stand for well over a decade.

The interview in 2011 was evidence of that. The only way for that one to happen is if Daniels went to the source to tell/sell her story because nobody else but her and Trump would have known about it.

However, the real problem that I have with her is that she hired extremely corrupt attorney, Michael Avenatti (in prison)  to maximize the exploitation of this to maximize the benefits to her.

She pretends to be a victim(and he did apparently take advantage of her and other clients) 

Regardless, she was trying to make as much money as she could for her story for years by telling it and selling it for a profit. 


Stormy Daniels' Ex-Lawyer Michael Avenatti Says He Is 'Happy To Testify' For Donald Trump

https://www.yahoo.com/news/stormy-daniels-ex-lawyer-michael-170018580.html

"Stormy Daniels is going to say whatever she believes is going to assist Stormy Daniels and putting more money in her pocket," Avenatti said. "If Stormy Daniels's lips are moving, she's lying for money."

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Avenatti has extremely low credibility but his characterization of Daniels fits with all her numerous actions. She's not some poor, uneducated, naive person that powerful men have taken advance of her entire life.

Not only did she understand what was going on, she intentionally choose it because it put her in a position to make money. Extortion money. TV interviews. Celebrity status. Selling a book. Hiring a corrupt lawyer to get even more money. Violate a legal non disclosure agreement. 

She lies when saying that she didn't want this because the facts all show that she intentionally chose this......numerous times!

She did tell the truth about several things today. That she hates Donald Trump was one of them.

And this is the person that Alvin Bragg is using to get Trump. WOW!


By metmike - May 20, 2024, 2:02 p.m.
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Michael Cohen admits he stole from Trump Org. during heated cross-examination

The defense team has sought to poke holes in the credibility of Trump's former fixer.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-hush-money-case-michael-cohen-testimony-trial-rcna152674

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We can only read and listen to what is being reported but this witness seems  NOT credible. 

                CNN THOUGHTS ON MICHAEL COHEN            

                            Started by 12345 - May 14, 2024, 7:45 p.m.     

       https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/104003/


https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/104077/#104087

By metmike - May 21, 2024, 11:27 a.m.
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Robert Costello is a 'killshot witness': Jonathan Turley

https://www.foxnews.com/media/jonathan-turley-robert-costello-killshot-witness

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Judge in Trump’s hush money trial threatened to remove witness from court for behavior on stand

https://apnews.com/article/trump-trial-hush-money-michael-cohen-363a86879b97d2367831b1392f42689d

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Trump opts not to testify in hush money trial as defense rests

https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/4674766-trump-defense-rests-hush-money-trial/

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NOT having Trump testify might be the smartest thing that the defense did!

 Trump has an extremely abrasive personality. He embellishes and lies every time he opens his mouth. He would have been decimated on the stand.

Now we get to see how many NY jurors can be fair and not let TDS control their thoughts.

People with a few objective brain cells can see thru this "election interference" nonsense perpetrated by the justice system in NY, with this the 3rd trial that has a Mt. Everest amount of evidence...........AGAINST THE JUSTICE SYSTEM for changing laws, manufacturing evidence and coming up with galactically insane charges, verdicts/convictions and penalties.

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If they do the right thing, the Ds/justice department just handed Trump a victory  in the 2024 presidential election.

If they find him guilty.............they may also have handed Trump a victory.

Keep in mind, I greatly detest Donald Trump. He was absolutely, solely responsible for the Insurrection and guilty of trying to overturn the 2020 presidential election results by using diabolical schemes.  I feel strongly that he should be banned from political office forever...........but since that has not happened, he can still run for office LEGALLY based on our DEMOCRACY!

Watch what happens if he wins and the Ds have control of either house.

They will immediately try to impeach him for those REAL crimes.

By 12345 - May 22, 2024, 9:24 a.m.
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ALAN DERSHOWITZ IS LIVID!!!!  4 1/2 MINUTES

Alan Dershowitz: Judge Merchan runs the courtroom tyrannically

By metmike - May 22, 2024, 7:20 p.m.
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Michael Cohen was a train wreck for the prosecution.

Stormy Daniels clearly has self serving motivations and said first thing that she hates Donald Trump.

Alvin Bragg was elected with a campaign platform promising to get Donald Trump.

The judge was insanely biased as Dershowitz insisted.

There was no democracy or right to due process in this courtroom or with the previous 2 trials.

This jury has the chance to salvage some of it by sending these blatantly corrupt, pathetic representatives, who are abusing our legal justice system  a strong message.

NOT guilty.

However, previous juries from this district have shown that tribalism, political affiliation, hate and mob mentality can rule over truth, justice and the American way. 

By WxFollower - May 23, 2024, 2:04 a.m.
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Jean said:

“ALAN DERSHOWITZ IS LIVID!!!!”

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Hey Jean,

 1. If this judge is as biased as A.D. says he is, why did he let Trump get away with so much when he was under the gag order before finally threatening him with jail?

2. The witness also said “Jeez”. A.D. isn’t giving the full story:

“A key witness for the defense, Costello said ‘Jeez!’ in an irritated tone when Merchan repeatedly sustained the prosecution's objections to his testimony. After another objection was sustained he sighed dramatically.”

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/05/21/read-transcript-trump-trial-judge-scolds-witness-monday/73783614007/

 3. A.D. is/has been a very biased Trump supporter.

 4. A.D. is a big Bibi supporter, which may very well be one of the main reasons why A.D. is very biased toward Trump since he’d be a much bigger supporter of Bibi than Biden, who really doesn’t like Bibi from all accounts I’ve read.

By 12345 - May 23, 2024, 6:41 a.m.
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HEY, LARRY   IN ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTIONS:

IMO.....

1. TO TRY TO MAKE HIMSELF LOOK LIKE A FAIR & UNBIASED JUDGE.

2. THERE WAS NOT ENOUGH TIME TO GIVE THE FULL STORY.

3. A.D. IS FOR FOLLOWING THE LAW & CONSTITUTION, REGARDLESS OF POLITICAL PARTY.

4. A.D. IS ENTITLED TO SUPPORT BIBI. (I'D PREVIOUSLY STATED THAT I'M NOT TAKING SIDES IN THAT "CONFLICT"... THEY'RE BOTH GUILTY.) A.D. ADMITS TO BEING A: "TO THE DEATH" DEMOCRAT. HE ALSO STATES THAT THE PARTY ISN'T THE SAME PARTY HE GREW UP WITH, BUT... HE'LL NEVER LEAVE IT.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MOST AMERICAN JEWS FEEL ABOUT A.D., BUT... I GET THE FEELING HE'S NOT WELL LIKED AMONG THEM?

I DON'T THINK BIDEN LIKES BIBI (OR, ANYONE). HE JUST GOES THE WAY THE WIND BLOWS.  LOL "WILL THIS MAKE ME LOOK GOOD?" IS HIS FIRST THOUGHT IN ANYTHING HE "PREPARES" TO SAY OR DO. "I GOTTA PLEASE MY BASE, NO MATTER WHAT."

BTW... I AGREE WITH THE STATEMENT BY JUSTICE THOMAS DURING HIS CONFIRMATION HEARING: "THIS IS A HIGH TECH LYNCHING"


By metmike - May 23, 2024, 12:40 p.m.
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I think Larry is on to a great point about the strong bias of Alan Dershowitz when it comes to Trump.

I like him a great deal but will note the following:

1. He was one of Trump's attorneys(advisors) in the past.

2. He's written several books about this that tell of his bias for Trump.

https://premierecollectibles.com/gettrump


3. He constantly reminds viewers that he's a registered democrat.  This one is a head scratcher! His opinions are usually R supporting opinions and we should note his regular appearances on Fox news because of this. I believe that he's being disingenuous and using this to make us think he an open minded D, when the reality is that he often follows an R belief system(maybe Libertarian) on many issues but pretends that he's still  a D(even with registration) to market himself. This might also be an evolution on his part from a liberal law professor previously to where he is today.

4. Regardless of this, I really like most of  his points a great deal, even though sometimes biased.  His Israel position, I disagree with. 

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‘What Happened to Alan Dershowitz?’

How a liberal Harvard professor became Trump’s most distinguished defender on TV, freaked out his friends and got the legal world up in arms.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/05/11/alan-dershowitz-donald-trump-what-happened-218359/


‘No longer presumption I’ll vote for Biden,’ Dershowitz tells JNS

The prominent U.S. lawyer and commentator is keeping an "open mind" due to the Biden administration's Israel policies.

https://www.jns.org/no-longer-presumption-ill-vote-for-biden-dershowitz-tells-jns/

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His position on this, like with Trump is biased too.



By metmike - May 25, 2024, 11:25 a.m.
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If there's 1 honest person on the jury, that doesn't have TDS and hasn't been bamboozled by the corrupt judge and prosecutor and  won't be pressured by the others....... this is what is most likely.

If there's several like that, it's a given.


Why Alvin Bragg’s ‘Jackson Pollock’ prosecution is more likely to produce a hung jury

https://thehill.com/opinion/criminal-justice/4685271-alvin-braggs-jackson-pollock-prosecution-of-trump-could-end-with-a-hung-jury/

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Donald Trump Chances of Having Hung Jury 'Far Higher' Than Normal—Attorney

https://www.newsweek.com/chances-trump-trial-having-hung-jury-far-higher-normalattorney-1904690

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We haven't seen and heard everything in the case but know enough for this to absolutely not be "beyond a reasonable doubt" and especially since some of these charges are total loony tunes that assumes a jury to be ignorant and TDS. 

To me, it's an insult to their intelligence and everybody else to actually think they will fall for this nonsense by assuming 12 people on a jury will have the same TDS as Alvin Bragg.

If he won 90% of the vote to be elected to get Trump, then it might make more sense.

Making up and applying retarded justice to "GET TRUMP" just blatantly exposed the criminal justice system in NY and the polls tell us that it has ALREADY BACKFIRED badly. 

What was this guy thinking?

Just evidence of how sometimes, powerful but incompetent,  biased, corrupt people are SO incompetent, that their diabolical schemes backfire and blow up in their faces!!!!!!!


This is what people outside of NY think:

                Re: Re: Re: TRUMP RALLY IN THE S. BRONX  LOL            

By metmike - May 25, 2024, 6:24 p.m.
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Just watched Jim Comey and James Dean on CNN.........their  go to "get Trump" guys.

Actually they have dozens of others.


They both insisted 0 chance for acquittal. I agree with that.

They also both agreed that almost no chance for a hung jury since "Alvin Bragg was flawless" according to Dean.

Flawless in applying corrupt justice he was, I agree!

If somebody defines their math as 2+2=10  and charges customers $10 for 2 items that cost $2 each.........that too is flawless by their standard!!!

I forgot to mention earlier that what I think will happen, with high confidence is that the jury will find Trump guilty of SOME charges. With 34 of them, they will have plenty to choose from.

Also, the judge made it clear and easier to pick out individual charges to find him guilty of with his special instructions meant to make it easier to do this because he wants Trump to be guilty of SOME charges.

So even if a jury is  deadlocked on 11-1 or 10-2 for numerous charges, which is a hung jury, what will happen is that the 11s/10s will get the 1s to agree to SOMETHING(s) and they will allow the 1s  or 2s on other things to cause a hung jury. 

With 34 choices and this judges instructions suggesting this, it's almost inevitable that on SOME charges, the jury will be 12-0.

It's likely that some will not want to be the ones living in NY known for letting Trump off and peer pressure, as well as the potential to have their lives ruined by the TDS, NY community targeting them afterwards is a real impact.

Some will be more concerned with their own skins more than Trump's innocence.

Finally, Trump is likely guilty of several charges, the way that Bragg defines his justice and legal system(some were beyond the stature of limitations and some were just absurd but if the jury is told "you must rule based on 2+2=10 math.......they are supposed to use that math, not their own.

Regardless of what the jury finds, the American people know the charges and know the evidence and have listened to Comey, Clapper and Dean and CNN and others spinning everything against Trump.

And they are deciding that there is something even MORE important than Donald Trump.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/approval/joe-biden/

NOT Joe biden!!!!


The Ds have a loser that cannot be resurrected because of several reasons. The one that is getting worse every day is his faltering cognitive skills.

This race is Trump's to lose right now. Unfortunately for him, he's his own worst enemy. Donald Trump was entirely to blame for the loss in 2020.

Going on with EXTREME, BS statements about the election being stolen from him in 2020 and how he will immediately deport 10 million illegal aliens and other nonsense WILL SCARE THE HECK OUT OF SOME PEOPLE ON THE FENCE, who will move back towards Biden out of fear that Trump is TOO EXTREME. 

Trump is very likely to do what he always does............shoot himself in the foot.

While his enemies continually fail to sink his ship and they are often a source for his support, Trump himself damages Trump more than all his enemies combined. 


https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/favorability/donald-trump/


The 2024 presidential race is not about Favorable numbers for either candidate. It's about the UNFAVORABLE numbers of your opponent. 

Trump's history shows that he's very capable of doing things that INCREASE HIS UNFAVORABLE numbers.

I would be shocked if he doesn't say many thousands of really stupid/untrue things the next 6 months. Any one of them could blow up badly in his face and be repeated over and over to hundreds of millions of people and it suddenly ramps up his unfavorable rating to HIGHER than Biden.

If that happens, NOT Donald Trump wins for the 2nd time!

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Trump often does best when he's being unfairly attacked.

He does worst when he's left on his own accord to do the attacking and uses very scary,  bs, extreme rhetoric.

His off the charts, enthusiastic base/cult feeds his pathological/psychopathic narcissism by cheering him for it. He is addicted to this.

However, for most people outside of this base, the more they listen, the more they are turned off by it. Scared by it.

Whether he wins in November or not will be based on how many additional people that he scares/turns off. He'll win by keeping that to a minimal amount of people added to the permanent TDS+ crowd now.

Trump NOT being the president right now is the best thing to help him get elected.

Biden being the president is the worst thing. They can't hide Biden in his basement like they did in 2020 to let Trump destroy himself by being Trump. 

And Biden can still come down with some sort of health problem and withdraw at the last minute.


By 12345 - May 25, 2024, 10:21 p.m.
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I STILL LOL WHEN I THINK OF HOW TRUMP FIRED COMEY.  HAHAHAHHAAA   

By metmike - May 25, 2024, 11:22 p.m.
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Comey came on the scene after Lynch got busted by a whistle blower having  a pre arranged FIX meeting with Bill Clinton at a Phoenix airport after she claimed it was a chance encounter and they talked about grand kids and  Bills golf games that he never played there.

The FIX for Hillary was still in but corrupt Comey had to announce it because corrupt Lynch got busted after the whistle blower tipped off a tv reporter that morning. He was there with a photographer….busted.

A tv reporter/photographer can't know that a chance meeting will happen.........HOURS BEFORE IT DOES!

By metmike - May 27, 2024, 4:22 p.m.
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Why Donald Trump Trial May End in Hung Jury


The 3 ways Trump’s hush money trial could end, as jury deliberations begin soon

https://www.opb.org/article/2024/05/27/the-3-ways-trump-s-hush-money-trial-could-end-as-jury-deliberations-begin-soon/

If the jury cannot reach a verdict, the judge will likely declare a mistrial. The Manhattan district attorney can then choose to retry the case with a new jury. But Litman suspects the political calendar would complicate any immediate retrial because it could run up against the November election.

“I think they will retry it, but not until after the election

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If Alvin Bragg retries the case, it will just amplify and enforce the view of NY as a justice laughing stock!

By 12345 - May 28, 2024, 9:16 p.m.
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By metmike - Sept. 4, 2024, 12:08 p.m.
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The 3rd government and justice system fraud,  joke trial, manufactured crimes to weaponize the system to get Trump, sentencing time is arriving:

What's Next for Donald Trump as 'Hail Mary' New York Appeal Fails

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-stormy-daniels-hush-money-trial-sentencing-1948635

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Previous related threads that expose these farce trials:               


                Trump civil fraud trial-nonsense          

           Started by metmike - Nov. 12, 2023, 2:43 a.m.      

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/100509/

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 Trump rape case            

          Started by metmike - May 3, 2023, 9:33 p.m.    

 https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/94926/