Zelensky Just SLIPPED UP, You'll Never Believe What Biden Administration is Doing
SURELY, THIS WON'T FLY!!!!!!!
Bingo!
Congress should be ashamed
Started by metmike - April 22, 2024, 4:32 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/103404/
UKRAINE TO JOIN NATO???????? :)
Started by 12345 - April 4, 2024, 3:57 p.m.
FROM THE TIMES OF ISRAEL
18 things to know about Jewish defender of Ukrainian democracy Volodymyr Zelensky
"He said in a 2018 interview, shortly before officially running for president, that because of them, he is unable to accept lies. “I always react painfully to lies,” he said. “This is the main feature that my parents gave me.”
ARE THESE "FACTS" ACTUAL FACTS? LOL
That great defender of Ukraine democracy has run out his term and cancelled democratic elections indefinitely.
He was hijacked by NATO, who turned him into their puppet, NATO saleman, traveling around to NATO countries to sell NATO's never ending war with Russia.
Sacrificing hundreds of thousands of brave soldier lives(and causing suffering to a million of their loved ones) and getting Ukraine decimated for the sole reason of......... joining NATO (instead of agreeing with Putin to not join NATO and have no war).
Betraying his country and people and campaign promise to negotiate peace with Russia in order to be a NATO hero with constant propaganda accolades that lie about the situation.
He killed off or permanently disabled over half his army and lost the war a long time ago.........but the NATO country propaganda continues to manufacture a fake reality to sell a never ending war with Russian and no peace plan. No negotiation. Just keep spending hundreds of billions to kill people so the elites in the Military-Industrial-Political-Media complex can stretch out their enrichment and agenda for as long as possible before it finally comes to an end.
Whenever that is, the damages will be MUCH GREATER than they are now. Which are much greater than they were 6 months ago, 1 year ago........etc.
Other than the elites, this war has nothing but increasing damage to the human beings involved and ZERO benefits.
Where's the diplomacy and leaders that want peace?
NATO and the United States gatekeepers/politicians who pull the strings, are war mongers that don't want peace.
Zelensky sold his soul to these devils that are propping him up with their propaganda.
President Volodymyr Zelenskyy says Ukrainian forces have secured “combat control” of areas where Russian troops entered Ukraine’s northeastern Kharkiv region earlier this month
"Independent confirmation of the claims wasn't immediately possible."
"Independent confirmation of the claims wasn't immediately possible."
Because, like the hundreds of other statements that Zelensky has given us the last 2 years.........IT DIDN'T HAPPEN! Just more propaganda!
Ukraine lost the war a long time ago. Zelensky got over half of his army killed or permanently disabled. The Russian army is overwhelming his depleted force and is piling on, making more and more gains. THIS WAS ALWAYS INEVITABLE!
Restore the democracy in Ukraine and let Ukrainians vote again. Stop protecting NATO puppet, Zelensky!
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Updated 7:02 AM EDT, Mon April 29, 2024
https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/28/europe/russia-daily-gains-ukraine-military-criticism-intl/index.html
Russian President Vladimir Putin is open to a ceasefire that recognizes the current front lines on the battlefield but will fight on if Ukraine and its allies do not agree, Reuters reported on May 24, citing undisclosed Russian sources.
"Putin can fight for as long as it takes, but Putin is also ready for a ceasefire – to freeze the war," a senior Russian source who has worked with him told the news outlet on condition of anonymity.
The Kyiv Independent could not verify the claims.
Except for unsuccessful talks during the early spring of 2022, there have been no direct peace negotiations between Ukraine and Russia.
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Ukraine’s president hit out after referendum ‘farce.’
September 28, 2022 12:01 pm CET
KYIV — There will be no peace talks between Ukraine and Russia as long as Vladimir Putin remains Russian leader, Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said Tuesday night.
https://www.politico.eu/article/volodymyr-zelenskyy-peace-talks-vladimir-putin-russia-ukraine/
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Restore elections so that a new leader that prioritizes the lives of Ukrainians and doesn't use them for their self serving agenda as a NATO puppet can be elected.
2+ years of sending brave Ukrainian soldiers on suicide missions to weaken Russia because NATO wants that IS ENOUGH!!!!
It's way past time to give Ukrainians the peace they've been pleading for. The negotiations for peace with Russia that Zelensky promised he would bring if elected in 2019 are a farce. That was Before he was captured by NATO's promises to make him their top salesmen and NATO mascot. Promises that he would be a elevated to a great man and rewarded with his country being part of corrupt NATO. Sent traveling to the NATO countries to generate enthusiasm and support for NATO's war USING the Ukrainians he is supposed to be protecting and helping for their diabolical scheme.
Get this guy out! He's done enough damage to the human beings living in Ukraine!
WHAT REALLY TICKS ME OFF IS... WHY IN THE WORLD IS PUTIN TINKIN' AROUND?!! HE COULDA BLOWN UKRAINE OFF THE MAP, ON DAY ONE.
MY THEORY HAS ALWAYS BEEN... IF YER GONNA FIGHT... START SWINGIN' WITH ALL YA GOT.... GET IT OVER WITH, QUICKLY.
This is true, Jean but the off the charts fatalities of civilians and innocent people would have made it similar to the war in Gaza...........which did that +++++took away the food, water, fuel, electricity and health care/hospital to 2 million innocent people to punish them. Putin is actually aligned with Ukrainians in the eastern part of the country and WANTS THEM as part of Russia.
Netanya is on an ethnic cleansing/genocide mission of people that he intensely hates.
Putin looks like a great humanitarian warrior compared to Netanyahu, even though he's NOT.
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The obsession with the Jewish community to point out that Zelensky is Jewish and a reason to support him is not unnoticed. What the heck does his nationality or religious affiliation have to do with his leadership??? At what other times did we obsess over this related to a leader, other than Obama being the first black president of the United States but that was totally different.
Zelensky has been catastrophic for the Jewish people living in Ukraine the past 2+ years, many that died for his personal NATO agenda. Just like the rest of the NON Jewish people living in Ukraine that have been decimated.
https://jewishinsider.com/2023/06/vivek-ramaswamy-republican-candidate-ukraine-zelensky-jews/
I'M NOT REAL GOOD AT REGIONS OF THE WORLD, & YOU SAID: "Putin is actually aligned with Ukrainians in the eastern part of the country and WANTS THEM as part of Russia. "
MY QUESTION? IS THAT THE SAME REGION UKRAINE TOOK FROM RUSSIA & HAVE BEEN KILLING OFF THE RUSSIANS IN THAT REGION FOR A DECADE?
IS THAT THE SAME REGION UKRAINE TOOK FROM RUSSIA & HAVE BEEN KILLING OFF THE RUSSIANS IN THAT REGION FOR A DECADE?
I don't know anything about that, Jean but can try to find out. It doesn't sound right, though.
I'D POSTED A REFERENCE TO IT, MAYBE A YEAR AGO LOL
Re: Re: War in Ukraine drags on 9-3-23
By metmike - Oct. 26, 2023, 3:56 p.m.
September 2021 Biden and Zelensky discussing the dynamics of expected war with Russia. Provoke him by cutting off negotiations with Putin and telling him that Ukraine was joining NATO whether he liked it or not. Despite Putin's insistence that he would keep NATO from expanding into Ukraine, even if he had to invade Ukraine to do it.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/98691/#99443
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/98691/#99446
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/99761/#99771
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5-26-24
While volunteers lined up to fight Russia at the beginning of the war, manpower shortages are now an issue that could seal Ukraine’s fate even if it can retain Western support.
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Been saying this since shortly after the war started!
It's getting impossible to hide the truth anymore.
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With Ukraine losing ground, allies debate how to squeeze cash for Kyiv out of frozen Russian assets
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With Ukraine being trounced even worse, instead of negotiating for peace, they squeeze out the last drop of blood from brave Ukrainian soldiers going on suicide missions for NATO and NATO puppet/Ukrainian people traitor Zelensky and try to extract as much as they can from Russia in addition to the last 61 billion extracted from US tax payers.
Such losses could hurt Ukrainian morale as Russia makes advances all along the front line.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/23/world/europe/ukraine-russia-battlefield-gains.html
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Dear NYT: Those hard-won gains were insignificant and exaggerated by you and the propaganda machine. to trick us into thinking Ukraine could win the war., which was impossible from day 1.
Now that they are really getting decimated, and even you can’t hide it, you want us to think that Ukraine had been winning the war and are describing it this way to save face after 2 years of lying to us about it.
These are the lucky ones! Brave soldiers that made it back alive!
https://www.gettyimages.com/photos/disabled-ukrainian-soldiers-in-kiev
'Games of the Heroes' competition for disabled former Ukrainian soldiers in Kiev
'Without Limits' Prosthetic Clinic Helps Soldiers And Civilians Wounded In War
View disabled ukrainian soldiers in kiev videos
TOPSHOT-UKRAINE-RUSSIA-CONFLICT-WAR
Ukraine's War-Wounded Recover At Military Hospital
Wheelchairs basketball for ATO soldiers
Rehabilitation Clinics Continue To Treat Ukraines War Wounded As Two Year Anniversary Approaches
Rehabilitation Clinics Continue To Treat Ukraines War Wounded As Two Year Anniversary Approaches
Wheelchairs basketball for ATO soldiers
Ukraine Focuses On Rehabilitation And Reintegration As War Wounded Climbs
Ukraine Focuses On Rehabilitation And Reintegration As War Wounded Climbs
Ukraine Focuses On Rehabilitation And Reintegration As War Wounded Climbs
Ukraine's War-Wounded Recover At Military Hospital
Rehabilitation Clinics Continue To Treat Ukraines War Wounded As Two Year Anniversary Approaches
Ukraine Prosthetic Assistance Project for ATO soldiers
Ukrainian veterans' training and rehabilitation to enable bionic prostheses
Ukraine Focuses On Rehabilitation And Reintegration As War Wounded Climbs
40th-day memorial service for Ukrainian Hero Dmytro Kotsiubailo in Kyiv
Wheelchairs basketball for ATO soldiers
Ukraine Prosthetic Assistance Project for ATO soldiers
Rehabilitation Clinics Continue To Treat Ukraines War Wounded As Two Year Anniversary Approaches
Ukraine Focuses On Rehabilitation And Reintegration As War Wounded Climbs
'Without Limits' Prosthetic Clinic Helps Soldiers And Civilians Wounded In War
Ukraine Focuses On Rehabilitation And Reintegration As War Wounded Climbs
Amputee Soldiers Compete in Obstacle Course Race In Kyiv
'Without Limits' Prosthetic Clinic Helps Soldiers And Civilians Wounded In War
Ukraine's War-Wounded Recover At Military Hospital
'Games of the Heroes' competition for disabled former Ukrainian soldiers in Kiev
'Games of the Heroes' competition for disabled former Ukrainian soldiers in Kiev
Ukraine Prosthetic Assistance Project for ATO soldiers
Ukrainian veterans' training and rehabilitation to enable bionic prostheses
Ukrainian veterans' training and rehabilitation to enable bionic prostheses
United Air Force Trials 2024 Press Conference In Kyiv
Amputee Soldiers Compete in Obstacle Course Race In Kyiv
Amputee Soldiers Compete in Obstacle Course Race In Kyiv
'Without Limits' Prosthetic Clinic Helps Soldiers And Civilians Wounded In War
'Without Limits' Prosthetic Clinic Helps Soldiers And Civilians Wounded In War
Ukraine Focuses On Rehabilitation And Reintegration As War Wounded Climbs
Ukraine Focuses On Rehabilitation And Reintegration As War Wounded Climbs
The 18th Meeting Of The Yalta European Strategy “The Future Is Decided In Ukraine” Held In Kyiv
'Without Limits' Prosthetic Clinic Helps Soldiers And Civilians Wounded In War
Rally In Support Of Prisoners Of War 'Don't Be Silent. Captivity Kills' In Kyiv
Ukrainian Soldiers Prepare for US Air Force Wheelchair Basketball Competition
Amputee Soldiers Compete in Obstacle Course Race In Kyiv
Amputee Soldiers Compete in Obstacle Course Race In Kyiv
Treatment center for Ukrainian soldiers in Kyiv Oblast
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NOT SO LUCKY ONES AND THEIR FAMILIES
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-02-24/aerial-view-of-sea-of-ukrainian-flags-at-graves-of/102017350
https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-war-mariupol-mass-graves-286b84d5d795ef91fb8c9ee48ed26612
And the "bad" guys on the other side are also human beings. Suffering and dying with millions of family members experiencing losses.
Blinken: NATO is 'stronger, bigger and better resourced'
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You bet they are and that's entirely what this is about.
NATO getting Ukraine. Hurting Russia and eventually defeating Russia(even though Ukraine already lost THIS war-they want to start another one directly with more NATO involvement).
I've been saying this for 2 years!!!!
UKRAINE TO JOIN NATO???????? :)
50 responses |
Started by 12345 - April 4, 2024, 3:57 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/98691/
UKRAINE TO JOIN NATO???????? :)
By metmike - April 6, 2024, 7:48 p.m.
https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/news_224092.htm
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https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/topics_52044.htm
NATO has grown from the original 12 countries to the current 32 countries, with Russia standing its ground on letting NATO have Ukraine.........the entire reason for this war.
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Re: Re: War in Ukraine drags on 9-3-23
By metmike - Oct. 5, 2023, 5:02 p.m.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enlargement_of_NATO
https://www.statista.com/chart/26674/european-countries-by-year-of-joining-nato/
More TRUTH about the US/NATO war using Ukrainians to fight it. List of links to the previous threads on the Ukraine war the past 2 years.
Re: Re: Who speaks the truth? NOT NATO!
By metmike - March 27, 2024, 12:25 p.m.
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By metmike - Feb. 27, 2023, 10:04 p.m.
Congress should be ashamed
Started by metmike - April 22, 2024, 4:32 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/103404/
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/06/02/ukraine-zelensky-criticises-biden-no-doing-enough/
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How about restore elections so the people can vote you out?
“It would be unfair if those defending our land were denied the opportunity to vote,” commented President Zelenskyy in March.
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Since he killed off half of his army, I don't think those men will EVER be coming back to vote...........but their family members are still alive and in a democracy, should have the right to vote the person that killed them out.
Ukrainians don't get to vote for Putin to hold him accountable but in a FREE DEMOCRACY they are allowed to vote for or against THEIR LEADERS to hold them accountable.
How many Ukrainian citizens (other than corrupt politicians benefiting from the war) are better off today, than there were before electing Zelensky?
There's your REAL answer for why Zelensky is not holding elections.
Almost no leaders would postpone elections if they knew they would win in a landslide. Ukraine is a blatantly corrupt country and now, isn't even practicing democracy. We are propping up a NATO puppet for NATO's agenda and US TAX PAYERS ARE FOOTING MUCH OF THE BILL!
Hundreds of thousands of brave Ukrainians are paying with their lives (with a million family members suffering their losses).
GIVE UKRAINIANS THE PEACE THAT THEY ARE PLEADING FOR. STOP FUNDING IT AMERICANS! STOP LYING ABOUT IT GOVERNMENT/MEDIA!
This is another reason to vote for Trump!
UNTIL 2020... I ALWAYS WONDERED HOW CITIZENS COULD SIT BACK & LOSE THEIR COUNTRY TO EVIL. I NO LONGER WONDER. IT TAKES TIME & THE SKILL OF EVIL...THEN, THE ESCALATION GROWS EXPONENTIALLY.
GOD HELP US ALL.
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This is more nonsense/propaganda from the NATO puppet. China is NOT part of NATO and can do what they want. NATO has driven China to become much closer to Russia. NATO refuses to negotiate peace with Russia because THEY WANT UKRAINE!
Russia won this war in Ukraine a very long time ago, using almost every authentic standard but NATO and NATO puppet, Zelensky refuse to acknowledge it or negotiated for peace.
For NATO, the war WILL NEVER END, which means Putin will just keep winning more and more.
Who gains from this?
US and Ukrainian politicians, including Zelensky.
The Military Industrial complex and media.
Everybody else loses, some lose really big.
$200,000,000,000 in losses to US tax payers so far.
Over half a million lives on both sides gone forever, millions in family members suffering.
Ukraine is being deprived of their desire for peace. We should blame Putin of course but NATO provoked him intentionally and WANTS THIS WAR TO CONTINUE for their agenda.
"China, unfortunately... is working for countries not to come to the peace summit," he said.
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More like the "propaganda conference" with NATO puppet, Zelensky spouting his fake peace rhetoric but refusing to EVER negotiate with Russia/Putin and vilifying anybody that isn't about greatly increasing support for NATOs ENDLESS war so the rest of his army can be decimated.
Mr Zelenskyy has been touring European nations in recent days seeking more military aid for Ukrainian troops, and warning partners of the risks if they show any signs of fatigue over the war.
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What leader of any country in history that was involved in a war, for 2+ years, made hundreds of visits to other countries to generate support for their war?
This is a NATO war and Zelensky is a puppet salesman that has sacrificed the lives of hundreds of thousands of his brave soldiers, his people and his country to sell NATO's war with Russia to the rest of the world.
You don't believe me?
Name 1 good thing that has come out of Zelensky refusing to agree with Putin, the past 2+ years, that Ukraine would not become part of NATO? Zelensky elevated to a global hero that spews toxic propaganda and lies?
You should know all the bad things that have happened. All bad things. No good things and all everything being COUNTER productive. Ukraine is losing more land by the day. More soldiers every day after having half of them killed or permanently disabled.
But NATO refuses to negotiate as Ukraine's bargaining position loses more and more and more.
Ukrainians desperately want peace more than anything. Instead, we ignore their pleas and make them fight this war for NATO and pretend to the rest of the world this is what they want. Sending their brave soldiers on suicide missions for NATO. Having their country obliterated...........for NATO. Then, insist that we are "supporting Ukraine".
No!No!No!
Use your heads. If you lived in Ukraine and had the choice of joining NATO or this, why would you choose this???? They didn't! Traitor, Zelensky and NATO did and are selling it to us in NATO countries as "supporting Ukraine".
U.S. politicians chose this because they are part of the Military-Industrial-Political-Media complex in our country that benefits from wars.
They don't care about the actual human beings in Ukraine or they would have NEVER sent them on suicide missions for 2+ years for their self serving agenda.
Even now, after 2+ years, how many NATO leaders are crying out for peace? How many have a plan for peace? Just send another 61 billion to make sure the war can last longer with no end game strategy.
Even this fake peace summit is all about SUPPORTING NATO's WAR not about negotiating for peace.
If that's not true, then please tell me where the people/entities with serious peace proposals are? or war ending strategies (other than Russia/China which they won't tell you about)?
Instead, all they talk about is escalating the war. Ukraine needs more money, more weapons, more soldiers, even after being completely trounced in Ukraine.
And now, they are escalating to use NATO weapons to attack Russia. Pretending still, absurdly that this is not a NATO war with Russia.
They apparently want WW3. They keep insisting that Putin will come after Europe after he gets Ukraine. That is 100% manufactured nonsense to scare people into supporting the NATO war. Putin only wants to keep NATO out of Ukraine NOT to reclaim or attack any already NATO countries.
However, if NATO attacks Russia directly with NATO weapons IN RUSSIA, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to tell you that this will intentionally provoke Putin even more..... to the point where his response is likely going to be attacking a NATO country back.
And why would that not be reasonable?
This is a war between NATO and Russia, fought in Ukraine to get Ukraine or keep Ukraine out of NATO.
The battlefield is in Ukraine. We all know that it's NATO weapons on the battlefield.
If NATO decides to attack Russia in Russia then its no longer a battle for Ukraine.
It's WW3, which is what aggressor NATO wants to defeat Russia and almost impossible to think that Russia will not attack NATO back.
And why would that not be justified if you're Russia???
How is this a peace summit when the discussion focus's on how to escalate the war in order to defeat Putin IN RUSSIA instead of just negotiating for peace.
Russia has enough nuclear weapons to destroy the planet several times. He also has China as an ally.
All NATO has had to do from before the war was agree with Putin to promise to not add Ukraine to its very long list of anti Russian NATO countries.
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Instead of acknowledging Ukrainian's overwhelming defeat in the war in Ukraine with Ukrainian soldiers fighting with NATO weapons and negotiating for peace, which NATO refuses to do, NATO has now become so desperate that they are DIRECTLY ATTACKING RUSSIA ON RUSSIAN SOIL. This is a new, huge ESCALATION, the potential impact of which CANNOT BE OVERSTATED.
This is extremely provoking Putin to attack back into NATO countries.
Ukraine is NOT a NATO country. There is no alliance or agreement that makes what NATO is doing legal. But NATO has been acting like Ukraine is already in NATO for all practical purposes.
This takes it to a new level. NATO attacking Russia inside Russia. Whether you think this is right or not, everybody should put on their reality thinking caps RIGHT NOW.
Putin's reaction to being attacked directly BY NATO INSIDE OF RUSSIA.
Nobody can possibly think that Putin will suddenly agree to withdraw all his troops in Ukraine, after WINNING THE WAR IN UKRAINE along time ago.......FOR ANY REASON.
And Putin will not just sit back and let NATO bomb the crap out of Russia.
SO PUTIN WILL DO SOMETHING TO DEFEND RUSSIA AGAINST NATO! NATO KNOWS THIS! NATO WANTS THIS!
NATO WILL NOT NEGOTIATE PEACE. THEY ARE INTENTIONALLY PROVOKING WW3!
Do you wonder why, suddenly 2+ years into the war, this is happening?
It's because NATO KNOWS THEY LOST THE WAR IN UKRAINE a long time ago and will never negotiate with Putin.
Somebody(s) with sanity, better come out of nowhere from NATO's side that is willing to convince NATO to negotiate peace and do it quietly behind closed doors or the WW3 reality could happen quickly overnight.
Why would we risk everything over a corrupt country, Ukraine that isn't even a democracy anymore. Make no mistake, in WW3, China is on Russia's side, as it has been for 2 years, even if not a vocal cheerleader.
https://www.newsweek.com/russia-ukraine-putin-red-lines-biden-1907796
So far, Putin has not followed through militarily on promises to punish the West for its support of Ukraine but whether this will remain the case and what his red lines are remain uncertain, especially given his announcement in May of nuclear weapon drills. Newsweek has contacted the Kremlin for comment.
"There will be a point for Russia where real red lines will be crossed and then of course, they're going to take relevant countermeasures," said Nicolò Fasola, author of the book releasing in July Reinterpreting Russia's Strategic Culture: The Russian Way of War, told Newsweek. "It potentially has strategic implications in that it could be seen by Russia as a considerable step up in escalation."
Hoh, a retired U.S. Marine Corps captain, who briefed the U.N. Security Council (UNSC) in March of the escalatory dangers of the war in Ukraine, said: "The great danger is what if these weapons from the West strike a civilian target, say a school full of Russian children, what then would Russia's response be?
"I don't think Russia will go so far as to attack Western military targets outside of Ukraine," he said. "I don't think the Russians want that kind of escalation, but for the extremely small benefits that these weapons will provide, the risks are simply too great."
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We should not forget that it was NATO(Biden) that blew up the Russian natural gas pipeline to Germany in the biggest, state sponsored act of terrorism/crime and biggest methane gas release in history.
We should not forget that Biden authorized the use of cluster bombs, that are outlawed in 100 countries.
These were just 2 examples of NATO not caring about ethics or principles but only about defeating Russia............no matter what!
NATO does not want peace. They want to destroy Russia, no matter the risks or what it takes. The propaganda is all about portraying NATO as the good guys and Putin as evil.
NATO and especially Zelensky want WW3 so that NATO can send in NATO troops, which would include US troops as agreed upon by the United States being a member of NATO.
Ukraine is a corrupt country that has stopped democratic elections, being used by NATO to have its war with Russia...........that Russia clearly won but NATO will not recognize that. Ukraine's army was mostly killed off/permanently disabled and couldn't recover, no matter what weapons we give them. They won't tell you this.
So the NATO response, is to continue to refuse to negotiate for peace with Russia and get even more desperate.........attack Russia on Russian soil to try to provoke Putin into defending Russia against a NATO country.........THEN WE CAN HAVE WW3 with an excuse to send in NATO troops, since Zelensky got his army killed off and lost this war A LONG TIME AGO!
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https://www.newsweek.com/putin-state-tv-map-russia-ukraine-weapons-1907887
https://www.newsweek.com/zelensky-donald-trump-loser-president-reeelcted-war-putin-1907637
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky is warning former President Donald Trump that he could be a "loser president" if he tries to broker a peace deal between Ukraine and Russia if he gets another term in the White House.
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That statement proves the point crystal clearly. Zelensky DOES NOT WANT PEACE. He's working for NATO not Ukrainians. He's betrayed and sacrificed half of his army and his country for fame and glory with his role FOR NATO, as their award winning, puppet salesperson.
This charismatic charlatan was recruited by NATO/Biden to travel around the world, portraying this fake image of somebody fighting for democracy, freedom and peace against evil Russia, in order to sell NATO's WAR WITH RUSSIA. NEVER PEACE, ALWAYS WAR!
He really outed his true self with the statement above!
https://defence-blog.com/ukrainian-special-forces-strike-russian-positions-in-syria/
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More propaganda, nonsense, intended to try to generate support for Ukraine TO CONTINUE THE WAR.
https://www.newsweek.com/nato-country-leader-issues-warnings-about-second-donald-trump-term-1908167
you really want to compare Trump's war record to Biden's.....damn that is funny right there
MIKE... I'M FAR FROM BEING THE ONLY ONE THINKING THERE WILL BE A BIG POSSIBILITY OF NO ELECTION. I'VE BEEN SAYIN' THAT FOR OVER A YEAR.
Thanks, Jean!
Here's more related to this with an impact that is significantly hurting us in our country....RIGHT NOW!
I'm having to wait for the results of my blood work for a week, instead of 3 hours.
Wake up Americans!!!
15 responses |
Started by metmike - June 4, 2024, 4:37 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/104579/
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As long as the war continues, Zelensky is a famous guy with an important job.
Once the war ends, so does his job after Ukrainians are given the chance to vote again.
I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THE TRUE FEELINGS OF THE UKRAINE CITIZENS.
MY NIECE MARRIED A GUY THAT HAD HIS UKRAINIAN PARENTS IN CONCENTRATION CAMPS DURING WWII. HE STILL FLIES THE UKRAINE FLAG, IN SUPPORT OF UKRAINE.
Yes, it would be nice to know the TRUE feelings of UkrainIan’s without the propaganda manufacturing how they Want us to think they feel,
Hey, Jean!
I have a wonderful idea on how we could do that.
its how all true democracies do it.
Restore elections to Ukraine!
Give them a chance to vote again as they could before NATO and NATOs puppet, hijacked and used their country for NATOs self serving war with Russia.
Zelensky says no elections because he wants the entire military to be able to vote.
that will be very impossible because half of them are buried in graves.
But their families sure as heck deserve the right to vote and hold Zelensky accountible,
RESTORE elections in Ukraine!
EXACTLY, MIKE. WHEN WILL THAT HAPPEN, IS THE QUESTION & CAN THE UKRAINIANS BE BOUGHT, IF THEY PROMISE TO VOTE FOR "LITTLE ZEL".
UKRAINE TIMELINE https://www.history.com/news/ukraine-timeline-invasions
(RATHER THAN SEARCH THE FORUM FOR THE ARTICLE I POSTED A YEAR OR SO AGO... OF HOW UKRAINE HAS BEEN KILLING RUSSIANS IN A CERTAIN PORTION OF UKRAINE, FOR YEARS... I'M LOOKING ON LINE FOR IT. LOL )
I FOUND MENTION OF THE ARTICLE PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED.
GOOD OL' FACEBOOK & POLITIFACT.
Russia has deployed a misinformation campaign as the country invades Ukraine, creating, as the New York Times put it, "an alternate reality where the invasion is justified and Ukrainians are to blame for violence."
A recent Facebook post seems to echo Russian talking points, claiming that "for eight years, Ukraine has been shooting residents of Donetsk and Lugansk just because they wanted to speak Russian."
This post was flagged as part of Facebook’s efforts to combat false news and misinformation on its News Feed. (Read more about our partnership with Facebook.)
Hey Jean,
You referred to Zelenskyy as “LITTLE ZEL”.
As a fellow person of not tall stature, I resemble that remark. ;)
Height isn’t everything. At least we don’t have to worry about bumping our heads into chandeliers and we have tons of headroom in vehicles!
Many great golfers are/were on the short side like Gary Player, Gene Sarazen, Lee Trevino, Chi Chi Rodriguez, and Ian Woosnam. All were 5’5-7” non-tall.
Short POTUS: Madison only 5’4” and John Adams 5’7”.
Short great baseball players: Phil Rizzuto 5’6”, Joe Morgan 5’7”.
The great Rod Laver is only 5’8”.
Bowler Pete Weber is only 5’7”.
Boxer Roberto Duran 5’7”.
Prince 5’2”
Michael J. Fox 5’4”. Joe Pesci 5’3”. Beethoven 5’3”. Scorsese 5’3”
5’4”: Picasso, Jason Alexander, Gandhi, Mel Brooks, Houdini, Truman Capote
5’5”: Dustin Hoffman, Billy Joel, Richard Dreyfuss
5’6”: Rick Moranis, Billy Crystal, Bob Dylan, Henry Winkler, Hitchcock
5’7” MLK, Churchill, Martin Short, Robin Williams, Tom Cruise, Bruce Lee, Pacino, Mario Andretti, Yogi Berra, Elton John, Putin
Meteorologist Marc Mancuso of TWC is short.
Take that, Randy Newman!
LOLOL FUNNNNNY STUFF, LARRY.
I DON'T EVER RECALL ANY OF THE ONES ON YOUR "SHORT LIST"... WHININ' LIKE A SPOILED ROTTEN LITTLE TODDLER. "LITTLE ZEL" DOES... A LOT!!
TRUST ME... IN MY EYES, THERE'S NEVER BEEN A "BIGGER MAN", THAN MY 5'7" GRANDPA. HIS YOUNGER BROTHERS WERE OVER 6' TALL.. LOL THEY NEVER EVEN CAME CLOSE TO BEING THE MAN GRANDPA WAS.
DOES YOUR HEIGHT, OR LACK THERE OF (LOL) HAVE ANY BEARING ON YOU, AS A MAN? I KINDA DOUBT IT. YOU DON'T SEEM TO BE LIKE "LITTLE ZEL" WHEW!!
WHAT FUNNNNNNNNN
https://newsukraine.rbc.ua/news/scholz-putin-must-finally-recognize-that-1717876907.html
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Dude, Ukraine LOST the war by every standard a long time ago. Half their army has either been killed or permanently disabled.
Ukrainians WANT PEACE and ironically, that's why they elected Zelensky in 2019.......because he promised to negotiate peace with Russia.
Instead, NATO hijacked his brain and he's sacrificed Ukrainians for the almighty NATO agenda that has turned him into their charismatic global star, puppet. Traveling the world to sell support for the NATO war that has obliterated his country..........instead of just telling Russia that Ukraine would not join NATO.
NATO, stop pretending to be supporting Ukraine. You USED THEM for your agenda.
None of this would have happened without NATO, which still refuses to negotiate for peace as Ukraine LOSES WORSE every day.
Negotiating with Russia 6 months ago would have been much better for Ukraine.
1 year ago, even better.
2 years ago, better yet for Ukraine.
2.5 years ago............and there would have never been a war.
But NATO continues to spout war propaganda like this instead of recognizing the reality because their objective is to destroy Russia.
Putin knows this better than all of us. Yes, he's an evil guy but, on what planet is Putin going to let NATO destroy Russia?
Planet NATO's dreams!
MY DANISH FRIEND IN DENMARK, REFERS TO NATO AS... THE NATO NAZIS.
RUSSIA SAVED A LOT OF LIVES IN WW II. THE NAZIS WERE GERMAN & AUSTRIAN... NOT RUSSIAN.
KEEP POKIN' THE BEAR!!!
US lifts ban on sending weapons to a controversial Ukrainian military unit
AAAARRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!
Zelenskyy appeals for help with Ukraine's energy network as recovery conference opens
PURE EVIL INSANITY~ IMO. USE RUSSIAN ASSETS TO HELP UKRAINE "WIN THE WAR".
G7 leaders agree to lend Ukraine billions backed by Russia's frozen assets. Here's how it will work
"Leaders of the Group of Seven wealthy democracies have agreed to engineer a $50 billion loan to help Ukraine in its fight for survival. Interest earned on profits from Russia’s frozen central bank assets would be used as collateral.
Where would the money come from?
Most of the money would be in the form of a loan mostly guaranteed by the U.S. government, backed by profits being earned on roughly $260 billion in immobilized Russian assets. The vast majority of that money is held in European Union nations.
A French official said the loan could be “topped up” with European money or contributions from other countries.
A U.S. official who spoke on the condition of anonymity to preview the agreement said the G7 leaders' official statement due out Friday will leave the door open to trying to confiscate the Russian assets entirely.
Why not just give Ukraine the frozen assets?
That's much harder to do."
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Where is Treasury Secretary, Yellen and others to tell us the truth about how these increased sanctions cause even more global supply chain INFLATION!
Russia-Ukraine war impact on supply chains and inflation
Economic Analysis
https://kpmg.com/us/en/articles/2022/russia-ukraine-war-impact-supply-chains-inflation.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMJ9PLQCT84
https://www.voanews.com/a/russia-economy-grew-in-2023-despite-war-and-sanctions/7478952.html
The Russian economy in 2023 outpaced both the United States and Europe in terms of growth, increasing in size by 3.6% despite being subject to a wide array of powerful economic sanctions and being cut off from major global markets.
ABUSING our power like this, with the US dollar as the world's main global currency being used to PUNISH adversaries for political agenda is 100% writing a death sentence for the US dollar.
The propaganda keeps reassuring us that the world doesn't have any other choice and there's no threat for the immediate future.
WANNA BET!!!!!
Maybe not today or tomorrow..........but the writing is on the wall and the actions around the world ARE A REALITY. See for yourself.
Our insane war in Ukraine has greatly accelerated the demise of the US dollar, while US citizens are bombarded with NATO propaganda to keep us in ignorant bliss!
Argentina, Egypt, Ethiopia, Iran, Saudi Arabia and the UAE have been invited to join the grouping of top emerging economies in January 2024.
“This has geo-economic, geostrategic and geopolitical implications,” Naidu argued, saying the latest additions will push some BRICS nations to think more about their Middle East policies, and for China and India to beef the existing policies.
China recently brokered the re-establishment of ties between Saudi Arabia and Iran, a role that would traditionally have been filled by a country like the United States.
India’s recently signed an agreement with the UAE to trade in Indian rupees and Emirati dirhams instead of in the US dollar.
Crucially, Naidu argued, the expansion list is “very energy centric”, adding that following the announcement, some analysts at the venue even facetiously commented if they should “call it BRICS plus OPEC?”.
metmike: 3.7 billion people is a lot of people, almost half of the world!!!!!!!!
Analysts have said that one of the countries that could benefit from a trading regime outside of dollar dominance is Iran.
“Iran will clearly benefit the most,” said Na’eem Jeenah, a senior researcher at the South African think tank, Mapungupwe Institute for Strategic Reflection.
He said its inclusion “highlights the fact that it’s not as politically isolated as the US wants it to be”.
Inclusion could also be an “economic lifeline” due to increased bilateral trade.
“Members would start trading with each other in their own currencies. For Iran, this would be great,” he said.
Naidu noted that “having Iran in the BRICS sends a massive powerful message to the G7, to the Global North, to Washington”.
“It says, ‘You can have a problem with them, we’ll keep them here.’ And it also says, ‘Your problems are not our problems.’”
Look what we helped cause!
There's no going back.......only making it worse and worse with retarded foreign policy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkCrb1T227M
Delegates from 22 countries are gathering for the BRICS foreign ministers meeting in Nizhny Novgorod, Russia, taking place on June 10 and 11, 2024. This significant event and one of the largest ones in BRICS history is set to discuss various topics related to global economic governance, multilateralism, and the ongoing development of BRICS cooperation. This represents another step towards the further expansion of the BRICS bloc in the near future.
https://www.newsweek.com/putin-warns-that-world-close-point-no-return-1912819
Russian President Vladimir Putin warned Friday that the "selfishness and hypocrisy of Western countries" had led to a "dangerous turn of events" and the world was "close to the point of no return."
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The propaganda keeping us in ignorant bliss doesn't tell us that NATO's true mission is absolutely NOT peace with Russia. Verbally, they make up false narratives about being a defensive pact.
NO, NO, NO!
Their actions are crystal clearly to destroy Russia. They won't negotiate for peace. They want Ukraine for strategic purposes to destroy Russia.
Russia is in a fight for its very existence here, whether we can comprehend that or not. They are backed up against a wall with an opponent that DOES NOT WANT PEACE and will not negotiate or acknowledge that Ukraine lost the war a very long time ago.
NATO is starting a NEW war. One with new rules, new sanctions, new, desperate measures, like bombing Russia on Russian soil.
Russia has defined what it wants.........Ukraine agreeing to NOT be part of NATO.
NATO? It wants Ukraine, so it can position NATOs nuclear weapons, aimed at Russia, it wants to destroy Russia.
Ukrainians? THEY WANT PEACE WITH RUSSIA! Stop believing that we are supporting Ukraine. We killed off or permanently disabled over half of their army(and they need a NATO led army in order to stay in NATOs new war-that why NATO is sending its military to Ukraine right now, claiming they are there to "train", Ukrainian troops). NATO puppet, Zelensky, elected on his campaign to negotiate for peace with Russia, got his country decimated and refuses to negotiate for peace and cancelled elections to stay in office. He's now a dictator/tyrant using Ukraine for his self serving interests......traveling around as a NATO salesman. Using his charisma and depraved morality, selling his soul to the NATO devil and sacrificing his people for NATO. One of the most corrupt countries in the world the WE MADE MORE CORRUPT!
Our only hope is that Putin will see that Trump is getting elected and wait it out, because TRUMP WILL END THIS INSANITY ASAP!
If Biden is reelected, NATO's mission to destroy Russia will continue. Russia will be backed into a corner. They will NEVER agree to letting NATO have Ukraine to place nuclear weapons aimed at Russia.
And Russia has the absolute justification for taking this position, just like we did in 1962!
https://history.state.gov/milestones/1961-1968/cuban-missile-crisis
The biggest difference here is that NATO is a 10 times greater threat to Russia, then Russian missiles in Cuba were to the United States in 1962!
SEE FOR YOURSELF:
A 10 YEAR DEAL WITH UKRAINE????!!!!!!!
When sources like me reveal the objective truths like this, we get labelled as pro Russian.
Vilified as being for Putin and his evil regime.
That's a blatant mischaracterization intended to discredit sources who have the truth, so they can maximize the brainwashed with the NATO propaganda.
I am NOT for Putin or Russia.
I am for peace, sanity and smart global governance and foreign policy. VERY strongly against NATO which totally opposes this rational agenda.
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This sanity/propaganda/irresponsible ignorance and war mongering is exactly what I mean:
Ignore Russian threats of a tactical nuclear strike. The European deterrent is strong enough even to keep a tyrant like Putin in line
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/06/14/putin-nuclear-arsenal-is-crumbling-ukraine-can-attack/
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13530101/Putin-ready-ceasefire-Ukraine-pulls-NATO.html
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As mentioned 100 times here. Putin has been crystal clear from WELL BEFORE THE WAR STARTED on what he wants and keeps repeating it "abandons plans to join NATO"
Again, NATO has been the aggressor in recent decades. Putin has drawn his red line with Ukraine, just like we did in the Cuban missile crisis but this is a threat 10 times greater for Russia!
NATO is proving this statement exactly right with every new move/decision that makes it more and more clear that it's out to destroy Russia and won't settle for anything less!
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What's Putin upset about? They're only stealing $50,000,000,000 from Russia and justifying it for their political agenda (-:
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NATO: How dare Putin continue to tell NATO that it can't have Ukraine. How dare Putin negotiate for peace. NATO will destroy Russia, whether it’s in this war …..or with NATOs nuclear weapons in Ukraine aimed at Russia in the next one.
NATO: So what if Ukraine got decimated and lost the war. We say that the loser of this war calls all the shots. OK, forget that. We’re starting a brand new war now with NATO sending bombs into Russia, NATO. Stealing Russia‘s money and NATO toughening the sanctions On Russia. There will be no negotiating or peace ….only endless war with Russia…..until Trump is elected.
metmike: I suspect that NATO knows that if Trump is elected that he will end the war with Russian ASAP and so they are doing a full court press on Russia using everything they can, knowing that time is running out.
If Biden or his replacement is elected, the chance of a WW3 scenario that features US troops in harms way is greater than 50%.
It depends on how outraged the majority of Americans finally get at these pathetic leaders taking us down this road/path TOWARDS hell.
SPEAKING OF NATO......... WHAT JOKE!! A SICK ONE, AT THAT
Canada's defense investment plans put it on track to meet NATO guideline, minister says
“Our country finds itself at a pivotal moment. Our sovereignty and our security are no longer guaranteed by our geographic location," Blair said. Canada is surrounded by three oceans with NATO's biggest ally, the U.S., as its neighbor.
"But the new threat environment, the greater accessibility of our Arctic, the new technologies and the actions of our adversaries have taught us that we need to be ready,” he told reporters on the sidelines of a meeting of NATO defense ministers in Brussels."
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Sick joke is right, Jean!
Do they think that Russia or China are going to invade Canada by way of the Arctic or one of the oceans?
This is retarded NATO propaganda type rhetoric to bamboozle people for support.
NATO's #1 priority is not defensive.
Their main objective is to eliminate Russia.
IT'S ALMOST HYSTERICALLY LAUGHABLE. HAHAHAHHAA (I'LL CONTAIN MY LAUGHTER, THE BEST I CAN.)
I DID READ AN ARTICLE AWHILE BACK THAT CLAIMED PUTIN WANTS ALASKA BACK.
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-photo-joe-biden-pope-francis-1913375
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Trump's description in not accurate, however neither is this, from the article:
"A White House readout of Biden's meeting with Francis said the president had "thanked Pope Francis for the Vatican's work to address the humanitarian impacts of Russia's war of aggression in Ukraine, including his efforts to help return kidnapped Ukrainian children to their families."
He "also reaffirmed his deep appreciation for the pope's tireless advocacy for the poor and those suffering from persecution, the effects of climate change, and conflict around the world," it said."
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This is a blatant misrepresentation to make it look like the Pope and Biden see things the same in Ukraine. The Pope totally disagrees with Biden/NATO in Ukraine and has been crystal clear about it from day 1!
The Pope wants the exact same thing for Ukraine as the people in Ukraine have wanted during this entire war........PEACE WITH RUSSIA VIA NEGOTIATIONS. It's NATO that wants to get Ukraine and to destroy Russia. Read the popes words for yourself below, NOT the ones the White House uses with propaganda to mislead us.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Victor Orbon ---Russia
By metmike - June 9, 2024, 1:20 p.m.
Pope calls for the 'courage of the white flag,' negotiation, in Ukraine
March 10, 2024
Pope Francis' use of the term "white flag" while speaking in an interview about the war in Ukraine has raised questions, which the Vatican press office tried to explain. The pope's hope "is for a diplomatic solution for a just and lasting peace," said Matteo Bruni, director of the Vatican press office.
https://www.usccb.org/news/2024/pope-calls-courage-white-flag-negotiation-ukraine
Asked in an interview whether Ukraine should surrender and if doing so would legitimize the actions of the stronger power, the pope said that "the strongest one is the one who looks at the situation, thinks about the people and has the courage of the white flag, and negotiates."
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Amen!!!
In an interview published in June last year, the pontiff told Jesuit magazine La Civiltà Cattolica that the war was "perhaps somehow provoked" and recalled a conversation he had before the war where someone had told him that NATO was "barking at the gates of Russia."
While Francis criticized the "ferocity and cruelty of the Russian troops," he also appeared to warn against framing the war in black-and-white terms.
"We need to move away from the usual Little Red Riding Hood pattern, in that Little Red Riding Hood was good and the wolf was the bad one," Francis said. "Something global is emerging and the elements are very much entwined."
The pontiff has repeatedly called for peace in Ukraine, including in his 2022 Easter message where he said: "Let there be a decision for peace. May there be an end to the flexing of muscles while people are suffering. Please, please, let us not get used to war."
Pope Francis has previously stopped short of laying the blame for the war on Putin, saying in March that the conflict was fueled by "imperial interests, not just of the Russian empire, but of empires from elsewhere."
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Amen, Amen!!!
Here's the White House propaganda press release statement:
President Biden thanked Pope Francis for the Vatican’s work to address the humanitarian impacts of Russia’s war of aggression in Ukraine, including his efforts to help return kidnapped Ukrainian children to their families.
President Biden also reaffirmed his deep appreciation for the Pope’s tireless advocacy for the poor and those suffering from persecution, the effects of climate change, and conflict around the world.
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Not 1 mention of the Pope's REAL position with regards to the war in Ukraine, which is the polar opposite of Biden's!
For NATO/Biden and the charismatic puppet they hijacked to host their war and sell it to the world, betraying his people.......NEGOTIATE PEACE WITH RUSSIA! This is what Ukrainians want too!
That's my verbiage and characterizations not the Pope's.
How ironic too, that Biden thanked the Pope for his work to help people suffering from conflict, when the fact is that the United States is the #1 instigator and promoter of conflict, with this current president playing a key role right now.
WHAT A HYPOCRITE! To pretend to be in sync with the Pope on this topic.
The Pope cares about the real people. The human beings. The Ukrainians AND the Russian's dying. Brave soldiers from both sides forced to fight and die AND the civilians. The Palestinians AND the Jews dying, especially the 2 millions innocents in Gaza.
What substantive measures has Joe Biden taken (other than disingenuous words about Gaza to get votes from pro Palestinians), to support the Pope's objective of helping the people in these wars?
Re: Re: Re: Re: Wake up Americans!!!
By metmike - June 5, 2024, 1:40 p.m.
Previous related this:
Politicians love wars and the U.S. is vulnerable
Started by metmike - Oct. 29, 2023, 10:36 p.m.
What Biden just did will lead to poverty all over the US 10 1/2 MINUTES
I HOPE & PRAY THESE YOUNGER GENERATIONS WAKE THE HELL UP & PAY ATTENTION LIKE THIS GUY (AND OTHERS) & TAKE AMERICA BACK FROM THE UNGODLY GRIP THAT'S GOT HER.
I ALSO HOPE & PRAY THE "BLIND" BOOMERS GET THE HELL WOKEN OUT OF THEM, WHILE THEY'RE STILL ALIVE. IT'S LIKE THEY HAVE FORGOTTEN THE HISTORY THAT THEY LIVED THROUGH.
VOTE FOR COUNTRY, NOT PARTY!!
EDIT: UKRAINE TIMELINE
Despite assurances from GOP lawmakers, Donald Trump publicly mocked Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, likely pleasing observers in Russia.
After all, Trump tried to extort Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy in 2019
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metmike: What a spin. It was BIDEN, using his son Hunter that extorted many millions from blatantly corrupt Ukraine while he was VP.
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“I think Zelenskyy is maybe the greatest salesman of any politician that’s ever lived,” Trump said. Raising his voice and volume, the presumptive GOP nominee quickly added, “Every time he comes to our country, he walks away with $60 billion.”
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metmike: It's like Trump has been reading MarketForum!! This is exactly what I've been saying for a long time.
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It’s an approach likely to gain favor with the Kremlin, less so with the Ukrainian leader
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metmike: And gain favor WITH THE UKRAINIAN PEOPLE that will FINALLY HAVE PEACE. Spare us the "supporting Ukraine propaganda" Anybody buying that doesn't have eyes/ears, is incapable of critical thinking or is brainwashed by NATO to think we need to have constant war with Russia until Russia is destroyed.
Instead of agreeing with Putin to not let NATO have Ukraine, so that NATO can load up with weapons across the border from Russia(Can you say Cuban missile crisis) Zelensky, Biden and NATO have decided to get over half a million people killed or permanently disabled from both sides and have Ukraine obliterated for their political agenda to have Ukraine in NATO.............while the Ukrainians cry out for peace with Russia and stopping the corruption(which we made much worse by this war and the BIden family EXPLOITED TO THE MAX when Joe was VP-when he was supposed to be fighting corruption).
Funny how this article and many like them by the MSM, twists what Trump has exactly right THE MOST into the 100% diametrically opposed opposite.
If Joe Biden had never been born, Ukraine's corruption problem would BETTER off.
If Trump has been president these last 4 years, its extremely likely every Ukrainian would be massively better off (except for the corrupt politicians-especially their NATO puppet, salesman that betrayed, abandaoned his countryman for global fame and glory.
What great leader, given the choice between this and what things were like 3 years ago, before the war........with the exception of having to promise not to join NATO WOULD PICK THIS???
We should note that Zelensky focuses most of his time traveling to NATO countries to plead for more money and weapons to continue the war with Russia, which will, with 100% certainty continue the suffering and decimation to his people and NO TIME discussing peace in a serious way, which is what his people want.
He was a professional actor before being elected because of his gifted charisma and ability to convince people on stage and in front of cameras
THIS IS WHY NATO RECRUITED HIM to be their sales person. He decided to take the job , working for NATO and neglect the one he was elected to do by the previous democracy(that he has turned into a dictatorship).
The people elected him in 2019 based on his promise to negotiate peace with Russia and to fight corruption.
Joining NATO was not the top priority..........until NATO hijacked his brain and he sold his soul to the devil!
YESTERDAY, I WATCHED LINDSEY GRAHAM SAY: "WER'E NOT GONNA LET RUSSIA HAVE ALL THE PRECIOUS METALS THAT ARE FOUND IN UKRAINE!"
THE GUY I MENTIONED THAT'S BEEN IN UKRAINE FOR CLOSE TO A YEAR... I JUST GOT WORD..........
" ____ " is still fighting to survive the nerve gas that was used against him and others over in Ukraine a few weeks ago. He went from Germany to TX and is now back in Germany trying to recover.
https://thehill.com/policy/international/4754143-zelensky-trump-ukraine-plan/
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I have the plan!
Restore the democratic elections in Ukraine so that the Ukrainian people can vote again and boot the charismatic, psychopathic NATO puppet, Ukrainian people traitor that travels to NATO countries, working for NATO (not Ukrainians) to raise hundreds of billions for weapons to use by his brave soldiers (over half killed of permanently disabled) that he sends on suicide missions for NATO to continue THEIR war with Russia that was lost a very long time ago....... BUT ZELENSKY REFUSES TO NEGOTIATE FOR PEACE WITH RUSSIA, the promise he made in 2019 that got him elected and he broke in 2021, after meeting with Biden in the White House.
It's always been this simple.
Agree with Putin that NATO will NOT make Ukraine part of NATO, helping to stop NATO's EXTREME expansion, major threat and objective of destroying Russia.
A 10 YEAR DEAL WITH UKRAINE????!!!!!!!
By metmike - May 31, 2024, 4:52 p.m.
Putin is clearly an extremely evil guy but this particular request has always been very reasonable/justified!
NATO refusing and intentionally provoking this war with Russia over making Ukraine part of NATO is crystal clear that NATO lies and is NOT a defensive pact.
The only way to have peace ASAP is for somebody NOT WITH NATO calling the shots or somebody, like the president of the United States that has most of the military power supplying NATO with weapons, coming to their senses and agreeing with Putin that NATO should not take Ukraine.
Trump knows this. At this stage it will be impossible for Ukraine to keep the territory it lost in its war to become part of NATO. 2.5 years ago, Ukraine could have lost NOTHING if Trump was president, since Biden made defeating Russia his mission and led the way with our corrupt, military, industrial complex bought and paid for self enriched politicians, along with the dishonest, ratings seeking media colluding with its propaganda machine.
https://www.newsweek.com/nato-trump-nato-ukraine-plan-redefine-1920464
Two Trump-aligned national security experts said he is considering a plan to block NATO's eastward expansion, in particular into Ukraine and Georgia. He would also look to negotiate with Putin over how much Ukrainian territory Moscow can keep
He said Trump's purported plan was to show American strength and influence could push Ukraine and Russia to a peace deal, but this idea was "fundamentally faulty."
"Instead, the U.S. should continue to support the victim of the bully, and show the bully that he can't prevail," Kovalenko added.
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Yeah, right. The NATO plan is to serve up brave Ukrainian soldiers on suicide missions and have Ukraine decimated in a war they lost a long time ago to teach the bully a lesson and call it "supporting Ukraine"
The reality is that NATO WANTS UKRAINE(and to destroy Russia) and PUTIN WILL NEVER LET THEM HAVE IT.
The reality is that UKRAINIANS WANT PEACE much more than they want NATO. They also want Zelensky to restore the democracy in Ukraine, after he stopped elections so that he can stay in office as dictator and NATO puppet.
Trumps plan would have prevented the war and all the tremendous damage to Ukraine, the world and the US the past 2+ years. Better late than never. BIDEN/ZELENSKY/NATO have NOT been negotiating for peace so somebody NEW must take over leadership to end this horrific war.
This by itself is a decisive reason for me to vote for Trump, despite my extreme dislike for him.
Overlook my personal feelings for his despicable behavior/personality and off the charts negatives........ to SAVE LIVES OF REAL HUMAN BEINGS.
There are other positives with Trump. At the top of the list is his energy policies.
The life blood of every developed economy is its energy delivery system.
Fake Green energy schemes/scams based on a fake climate crisis being used for crony capitalism, political/government agenda/media sensationalism, ratings and zealot activism as well as sincere but very misinformed environmentalists is the recipe for energy and economic disaster in the US.
The real green energy is the one actually greening up the planet via photosynthesis.......fossil fuels.
Calling solar and wind "green" energy when they are the complete opposite is like calling CO2 "carbon pollution"
These are completely made up terms designed to mislead people and to sell a fake climate crisis agenda.
By metmike - June 23, 2024, 12:44 p.m.
Rain and H2O (gas and liquid) are needed for life on this planet to exist.
So is CO2, another beneficial gas....... which is NOT carbon pollution as its NOT even carbon.
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Re: Re: Re: National Climate Emergency??????????!!!!!!!!!!!
By metmike - June 22, 2024, 10:26 a.m.
This source displays a blatant bias when it comes to climate change.
Wanna know how to tell?
Anybody that uses the term "carbon pollution" for carbon dioxide is either not a scientist or is a blatantly biased scientist playing politics.
Using that term, carbon pollution is scientifically, exactly like using the term hydrogen pollution to describe water vapor/H2O in the air.
We know that a water molecule is formed from 2 atoms of hydrogen and 1 atom of oxygen. Water/H2O is neither hydrogen or oxygen. It's a totally different compound/molecule, using atoms held together by covalent bonds. It's essential for all life on this planet.
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Exactly the same with CO2/carbon dioxide. It's formed from 2 atoms of oxygen and 1 atom of carbon. It is NOT oxygen and it certainly is not the solid, carbon. It's a totally different compound/molecule, with 1 C atom, covalently bonded with 2 O atoms. It's an essential GAS! At 426 parts per million, CO2 is less than 50% of the optimal level for most life(assuming that most animals eat plants or something that ate plants).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_dioxide
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Carbon is a SOLID! Thousands of compounds have carbon atoms in them but they are NOT CARBON.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_compounds_with_carbon_number_1
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We know exactly why people use the ANTI science term, carbon pollution for CO2.
When you hear a source using that term or read it, you can be certain that they are either scientifically ignorant on this topic or intentionally using it to try to trick people into believing that the beneficial gas, CO2 is actually a pollutant and is bad, like black carbon or solid carbon particulate matter in the air.
Ukraine's Zelenskiy on Cease-Fire Proposals, Trump 7 MINUTES
WHY IN THE WORLD WOULD TRUMP TELL HIM?!! WHAT A TOOL! HE KNOWS DAMN WELL HOW TO STOP HIS OWN WAR. HE SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN KILLING THE RUSSIANS, ALL ALONG. HE & BIDEN MAKE A GOOD PAIR, IMO. I TRUST PUTIN FURTHER THAN I DO EITHER OF THEM. LOL
Restore elections in Ukraine so they can vote this NATO PUPPET, Ukrainian people traitor, out and so Ukrainians can get what they want PEACE WITH RUSSIA.
Biden's interview yesterday was revealing. He mentioned a couple of times his support for NATO's expansion.
Not peace one time but instead NATO's expansion. This completely contradicts all the NATO propaganda about being a defensive pact and only defending Ukraine because its a democracy(used to be before Zelensky made himself a dictator, using Ukraine for NATO).
As the war enters its 862nd day, these are the main developments.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/7/6/russia-ukraine-war-list-of-key-events-day-862
NATO allies at their summit in Washington, DC, next week will unveil a “bridge to membership” plan for Ukraine and announce steps to bolster Kyiv’s air defences, a senior US official said.
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That's exactly what this war has always been about. NATO wants Ukraine to help complete there massive expansion. Indisputable:
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/103680/#104419
Ukraine wants peace with Russia.
Russia wants peace too but NOT with NATO continuing with their expansion into Ukraine with an objective of destroying Russia.
Fall of key Donetsk town, prized for elevated position, would bring Russia one step closer to seizing entire region.
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Front-line commanders report a lack of basic training for troops in battle, as Ukraine faces critical soldier shortage.
https://www.aljazeera.com/podcasts/2024/6/10/the-take-ukraine-desperately-needs-new-soldiers
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https://www.vance.senate.gov/press-releases/senator-vance-the-math-on-ukraine-doesnt-add-up/
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Ukraine lost the war by every reasonable standard a very long time ago and never had a chance from the get go. All the losses, not only were for nothing but they LOST ALOT OF LAND that they would have kept if they would have done just 1 thing, 2.5 years ago.............agree with Putin that NATO would not continue their spread to destroy Russia into the country of Ukraine.
NATO hijacked Zelensky for a position that he thought was more rewarding than the one that fellow Ukrainians elected him for..........to negotiate peace with Russia.
This NATO puppet has been serving up Ukrainians and sending them on suicide missions, using NATO weapons for NATO's war with Russia ever since.
With more than half of his brave soldiers and army killed off or permanently disabled for an entirely lost cause from day 1, Zelensky has cancelled democratic elections(his term expired earlier this year) to make himself a dictator of Ukraine so that he can continue to serve NATO.
Here in the US, we've been bombarded with absurd propaganda that constantly contradicts the truth, elevates the Ukrainian traitor to a hero and claims that obliterating Ukraine and Ukrainians for NATO's cause is supporting Ukraine.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/nato-must-act-now-to-prevent-world-war/ar-BB1pFvSg
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The polar opposite of the truth!!!!!!
OXYMORON, ON STEROIDS. LOL
Sullivan said NATO is committed to standing with Ukraine in the long term as it battles Russian invaders.
"(Russian President Vladimir) Putin cannot divide us. He cannot outlast us. He cannot weaken us. And Ukraine, not Russia, will prevail," Sullivan said.
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Ukraine lost this war a long time ago and more than half of its army was killed or permanently disabled, so this delusional position is based on:
1. NATO's relentless expansion and provoking Russia by never giving up on having Ukraine in NATO.
2. The willingness to force hundreds of thousands of brave Ukrainian soldiers on suicide missions FOR NATO, when the PEOPLE OF UKRAINE want PEACE WITH RUSSIA NOT NATO.
3. The betrayal by psychopath puppet Zelensky. He took up NATOs offer to be a global West star salesman for NATO. Traveling to NATO countries to generate support/funding for NATOs war with Russia that he hosts in Ukraine. Getting his country obliterated with the objective of weakening Russia and expansion of NATO. Making himself a dictator by stopping elections(his term ended) so that people are no longer able to vote him out.
4. US politicians call this "supporting Ukraine". With friends like this.........who needs enemies.
5. Not to ignore Putin as a very evil guy. But NATO has had 2 choices to Putin's ultimatum(and reasonable objective with WRONG tactics) to stop NATO from further surrounding Russia for it's NON defensive objectives. Either give up on making Ukraine a NATO country(surrounding Russia with NATO weapons which is NATOs objective) and have peace or continue on this path to make Ukraine an anti Russian NATO country and have Russia fight back. NATO chose this path. NATO can stop this anytime it decides to NOT MAKE UKRAINE A NATO COUNTRY. That's it. The fact that NATO won't do that tells us a great deal about NATO. NATO DOES NOT WANT PEACE! They want to destroy Russia.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/allies-agree-ukraine-join-nato-142422285.html
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As I've been saying for 2+ years, that's what its always been about. Look what they did to Ukraine to try to accomplish this! Again, Ukrainians have always wanted PEACE WITH RUSSIA NOT NATO!
This war with Russia is what NATO has wanted. They recruited Zelensky from representing Ukrainian interests to working for NATO. Zelensky sold out Ukrainians. Zelensky sold his soul to the devil, NATO.
Don't let this propaganda conference from diabolical NATO fool you. They are NOT a defensive pact.
https://japannews.yomiuri.co.jp/news-services/ap/20240710-197808/
Ukraine, a partner that relies on military aid from the NATO members, is opening a small office in Washington to strengthen its ties to the U.S. defense industry.
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This is insane! Nobody discussing peace seriously. They are trying to ensure the war will go on, even if Trump is elected and tries to bring peace!
Zelensky presses for NATO membership at DC summit
https://thehill.com/video/zelensky-presses-for-nato-membership-at-dc-summit/9854678/
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If they can fast track Ukraine into NATO, then suddenly they will have what they have always wanted.......NATO sending troops to Ukraine to replace all the dead and permanently disabled brave Ukrainian soldiers that LOST THE WAR TO RUSSIA!!!!
Then its a brand new war with NATO TROOPS vs Russia.
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That's about the ONLY chance for peace!
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https://ijr.com/russias-new-tactics-are-paralyzing-us-provided-weapons-mid-air-officials-say/
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So let's flush another counterproductive 100 billion down the toilet to enrich the military-industrial-political- media complex!!!!
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2024/07/10/7464926/
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2+ years and hundreds of billions in support/weapons and Ukraine got decimated and lost the war as well as the majority of its brave army sent on suicide missions for diabolical NATO and now, they can win it with a decimated army if we just give them the "right" weapons.
MY DENMARK FRIEND IS REALLY GETTING PO'd AT THE USA... PLUS, EUROPE FOR GOING ALONG. I DON'T BLAME HER IN THE LEAST.... SO, AM I!
WHEN IS BABY ZEL GONNA COUGH UP HIS 2% FEE TO BE IN NATO? NEVER, IMO.
https://www.thenation.com/article/world/isolation-five-eyes-alliance/
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hl8xkgUo8f8
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Zelensky is blatantly lying again. This is ALL ABOUT NATO GETTING UKRAINE. PERIOD!
Trying to scare people into thinking we have to stop Putin here in Ukraine..........or else he will just keep going is complete nonsense.
It's Putin trying to stop NATO's progress NOT NATO trying to stop Putin's progress!!
It's Putin trying to stop NATO's progress NOT NATO trying to stop Putin's progress!!
It's Putin trying to stop NATO's progress NOT NATO trying to stop Putin's progress!!
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/103680/#104419
People in Ukraine want peace with Russia! NATO DOES NOT!
