Got another buy signal on wednesday. So now over double the amount long.
Maybe it will do similar to last time. Got out at 35% and 15% profit
Then short june 28 till july 22 for around 40%.
Got stopped out of some at 10% profit and the rest for a 1% loss. Wait for the next signal.
thanks, baker..
Ng weather continues modestly bullish, along with the storage surplus shrinking from apparent production/supply cut backs.
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Started by metmike - June 2, 2024, 6:57 a.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/104476/
7 day temps for tomorrows EIA storage report at 9:30 am.
After last weeks bullish shocker...........only the 3rd Summer withdrawal in the last 3+ decades......this one should be much less bullish because of the much cooler weather from the Midwest to East Coast.
Still hot in the West and South.
https://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/tanal/temp_analyses.php
As expected, less bullish.
However, we continue to erode the massive surplus. Note the blue line slowing sinking into the top of the 5 year average below.
https://ir.eia.gov/ngs/ngs.html
for week ending August 16, 2024 | Released: August 22, 2024 at 10:30 a.m. | Next Release: August 29, 2024
Working gas in underground storage, Lower 48 states Summary text CSV JSN | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Historical Comparisons | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
Stocks billion cubic feet (Bcf) | Year ago (08/16/23) | 5-year average (2019-23) | |||||||||||||||||||||||
Region | 08/16/24 | 08/09/24 | net change | implied flow | Bcf | % change | Bcf | % change | |||||||||||||||||
East | 735 | 723 | 12 | 12 | 727 | 1.1 | 676 | 8.7 | |||||||||||||||||
Midwest | 888 | 869 | 19 | 19 | 826 | 7.5 | 790 | 12.4 | |||||||||||||||||
Mountain | 263 | 260 | 3 | 3 | 205 | 28.3 | 185 | 42.2 | |||||||||||||||||
Pacific | 288 | 287 | 1 | 1 | 241 | 19.5 | 262 | 9.9 | |||||||||||||||||
South Central | 1,125 | 1,125 | 0 | 0 | 1,078 | 4.4 | 1,017 | 10.6 | |||||||||||||||||
Salt | 280 | 286 | -6 | -6 | 263 | 6.5 | 245 | 14.3 | |||||||||||||||||
Nonsalt | 845 | 839 | 6 | 6 | 815 | 3.7 | 772 | 9.5 | |||||||||||||||||
Total | 3,299 | 3,264 | 35 | 35 | 3,078 | 7.2 | 2,930 | 12.6 | |||||||||||||||||
Totals may not equal sum of components because of independent rounding. |
Working gas in storage was 3,299 Bcf as of Friday, August 16, 2024, according to EIA estimates. This represents a net increase of 35 Bcf from the previous week. Stocks were 221 Bcf higher than last year at this time and 369 Bcf above the five-year average of 2,930 Bcf. At 3,299 Bcf, total working gas is within the five-year historical range.
For information on sampling error in this report, see Estimated Measures of Sampling Variability table below.
Note: The shaded area indicates the range between the historical minimum and maximum values for the weekly series from 2019 through 2023. The dashed vertical lines indicate current and year-ago weekly periods.
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Responding to the latest storage print for the week ended Aug. 16, natural gas futures moved lower Thursday as a relatively large injection foiled the recent pace of tightening supply.
The weather models continue with the cooler trend for the 3rd day in a row which has been putting pressure on ng prices. Cooler weather in the cooling season means lower AC use. NG is burned to generate electricity for air conditioning.
These were the last 4 GEFS CDDs(right) with purple being the last, still coming out 12z run.
This current spike higher in CDDs was dialed in early in the week. Since then, the market has been trading the drop in CDDs which is actually a bit faster than the slow seasonal drop seen with the dashed green line. By the end of the 2 week period. CDDs are almost but not quite down to average. There will be significant cooling in the Midwest again, similar to much of this Summer.
Still out, no buy signal this week.
But there was a sell signal this week if one wanted to be short on an aggressive signal.
NG back below $2. Pretty amazing!
Still think that an impending recession and industrial demand losses must be a factor for us to be this low and going lower at this time of year.
Of course the BIGGEST ONE right now is that the forecasts keep getting less and less hot, now cooler and cooler.
The last 0z European model in purple on the right was another -3 CDDs vs the previous 12z run. Temps even drop BELOW the historical average briefly(slowly dropping green line)
The last 12z European model was a whopping -7.5 CDDs! Bottom/right in purple.
Hey Mike,
Did that lead to NG dropping when or soon after it was coming out?
Larry,
Great question. I was going to mention that the market had its been plunge lower much earlier in the day, almost as if it was anticipating this in the early afternoon.
Overnight, the 0z European model was similar to the previous cooler 12z run but the last 0z GEFS was -3 CDDs vs the previous 18z run, which was -2.5 CDDs vs the previous 12z run, which was -6 CDDs vs the previous 6z run for a total of -11.5 CDDs over the last 3 runs.
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1. 1 day-that price of $2 was at 9am, Monday with a $500/contract spike lower before 10am(in less than an hour). When the bearish 12z European model came out in the afternoon, there wasn't a strong price move. The price tonight has continued the weakness with the GEFS, shown above especially cooling off more.
2. 1 month-testing the lows from a month ago
3. 1 year-still above the Spring lows
4. 10 years-not far from COVID lows
5. 35 years-Historically low prices for this century. In the bottom 1% compared to prices since 2000 and that's amazing considering inflation for almost everything else. NO INFLATION for natural gas prices. A big part of this is massive production/supplies. They have been intentionally lying about the desire to shut down fracking and fossil fuel production. It will NEVER happen. No way! Using it for political agenda, crony capitalism, sensationalizing, activist media reporting, dishonest science and misinformed but sincere environmentalists.
Also, these very low prices right now could be a symptom of a rapid slow down in the economy with reduced industrial demand.
The last time that natural gas prices were this low in the month of August was 1995!!!!
Robust production/supply that kicked in almost 2 years ago boosted storage to record smashing levels by this past Winter, which also featured very mild temps............allowing natural storage levels to blow away previous records.
This surplus has slowly eroded over the past several months. No long a record but still very ample.
Low prices are great but this isn't happening, necessarily for all great reasons. This market has always predicted recessions BEFORE the recession is obvious. Industrial demand for ng drops in a recession, for one thing and the big money (not me) thats on top of fundamentals is trading them BEFORE everybody else and we see it reflected in the futures market prices, which is PREDICTING the future based on the latest information, some of which is not making headline news yet.
https://tradingeconomics.com/commodity/natural-gas
This is just 1 explanation but regardless, consumers should be celebrating how cheap this fossil fuel is right now to heat and cool our homes and generate electricity to propel modern society in 2024.........while greening up the planet with the CO2 emissions!
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This also shows how incompetent/inefficient and corrupt our local energy provider, CenterPoint is.
They are RAISING natural gas rates charged to customers here in Indiana in this environment!!!
ww.marketforum.com/forum/topic/106220/
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/106220/#106226
Front month, September expires today. This has likely been a factor in the recent weakness with the other factors mentioned previously.
These were the last 4 runs of the GEFS for 2 week CDDs on the right, purple being that last and coolest in week 2.
Cool Eastern half of the country last week. HOT in TX!
https://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/tanal/temp_analyses.php
In line storage injection. Eroding the surplus a tiny bit more.
Much less heat on the way=bearish weather forecast.
https://ir.eia.gov/ngs/ngs.html
for week ending August 23, 2024 | Released: August 29, 2024 at 10:30 a.m. | Next Release: September 5, 2024
Working gas in underground storage, Lower 48 states Summary text CSV JSN | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Historical Comparisons | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
Stocks billion cubic feet (Bcf) | Year ago (08/23/23) | 5-year average (2019-23) | |||||||||||||||||||||||
Region | 08/23/24 | 08/16/24 | net change | implied flow | Bcf | % change | Bcf | % change | |||||||||||||||||
East | 754 | 735 | 19 | 19 | 745 | 1.2 | 696 | 8.3 | |||||||||||||||||
Midwest | 909 | 888 | 21 | 21 | 847 | 7.3 | 816 | 11.4 | |||||||||||||||||
Mountain | 266 | 263 | 3 | 3 | 211 | 26.1 | 188 | 41.5 | |||||||||||||||||
Pacific | 287 | 288 | -1 | -1 | 246 | 16.7 | 263 | 9.1 | |||||||||||||||||
South Central | 1,119 | 1,125 | -6 | -6 | 1,056 | 6.0 | 1,010 | 10.8 | |||||||||||||||||
Salt | 272 | 280 | -8 | -8 | 252 | 7.9 | 238 | 14.3 | |||||||||||||||||
Nonsalt | 847 | 845 | 2 | 2 | 804 | 5.3 | 772 | 9.7 | |||||||||||||||||
Total | 3,334 | 3,299 | 35 | 35 | 3,106 | 7.3 | 2,973 | 12.1 | |||||||||||||||||
Totals may not equal sum of components because of independent rounding. |
Working gas in storage was 3,334 Bcf as of Friday, August 23, 2024, according to EIA estimates. This represents a net increase of 35 Bcf from the previous week. Stocks were 228 Bcf higher than last year at this time and 361 Bcf above the five-year average of 2,973 Bcf. At 3,334 Bcf, total working gas is within the five-year historical range.
For information on sampling error in this report, see Estimated Measures of Sampling Variability table below.
Note: The shaded area indicates the range between the historical minimum and maximum values for the weekly series from 2019 through 2023. The dashed vertical lines indicate current and year-ago weekly periods.
The last 0z European model, purple/right was cooler again. -6 CDDs vs the previous 12z run.
The next EIA report out on Thursday at 9:30 am will likely show a small-ish injection by late August standards because of the amount of widespread heat from TX to the center of the country to parts of the Northeast.
https://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/tanal/temp_analyses.php
No buy signal as of yet.
We got the expected small-ish injection/build and ng, which was already trading modestly higher on expectations of a bullish report AND HEAT ON THE WAY IN WEEK 2, spiked higher immediately after the release of this bullish number and has held most of those gains.
NOTE: The heat in the SouthCentral region caused a DRAWDOWN of -14 Bcf!
The blue line on the graph below continues to slowly sink into the top of the 5 year average and very slowly erode the surplus(that was at record levels earlier this year).
https://ir.eia.gov/ngs/ngs.html
for week ending August 30, 2024 | Released: September 5, 2024 at 10:30 a.m. | Next Release: September 12, 2024
age, Lower 48 states Summary text CSV JSN | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Historical Comparisons | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
Stocks billion cubic feet (Bcf) | Year ago (08/30/23) | 5-year average (2019-23) | |||||||||||||||||||||||
Region | 08/30/24 | 08/23/24 | net change | implied flow | Bcf | % change | Bcf | % change | |||||||||||||||||
East | 761 | 754 | 7 | 7 | 762 | -0.1 | 717 | 6.1 | |||||||||||||||||
Midwest | 922 | 909 | 13 | 13 | 870 | 6.0 | 844 | 9.2 | |||||||||||||||||
Mountain | 270 | 266 | 4 | 4 | 217 | 24.4 | 191 | 41.4 | |||||||||||||||||
Pacific | 289 | 287 | 2 | 2 | 251 | 15.1 | 263 | 9.9 | |||||||||||||||||
South Central | 1,105 | 1,119 | -14 | -14 | 1,039 | 6.4 | 1,009 | 9.5 | |||||||||||||||||
Salt | 267 | 272 | -5 | -5 | 243 | 9.9 | 233 | 14.6 | |||||||||||||||||
Nonsalt | 838 | 847 | -9 | -9 | 797 | 5.1 | 776 | 8.0 | |||||||||||||||||
Total | 3,347 | 3,334 | 13 | 13 | 3,139 | 6.6 | 3,024 | 10.7 | |||||||||||||||||
Totals may not equal sum of components because of independent rounding. |
Working gas in storage was 3,347 Bcf as of Friday, August 30, 2024, according to EIA estimates. This represents a net increase of 13 Bcf from the previous week. Stocks were 208 Bcf higher than last year at this time and 323 Bcf above the five-year average of 3,024 Bcf. At 3,347 Bcf, total working gas is within the five-year historical range.
For information on sampling error in this report, see Estimated Measures of Sampling Variability table below.
It's pretty late in the year for CDDs to impact natural gas demand(burned to generate electricity for AC use) but not too late!
CDDs are on the right. You can see how fast the average is plunging in green. However, the forecast for the next 2 weeks from the GEFS model is pretty robust! More like late August, instead of mid September. The purple line was the last 12z run.
It's late in the year for heat to be bullish natural gas but the CDDs on the right are elevated for mid/late September and bullish.
Only the right, was the last 12z European model in purple that vs -2 CDDs vs the 0z run, 12 hours earlier. Note the average CDD, green line crashing lower as temps rapidly cool off.
On the left, note the HDD green line jumping higher(on a different scale). The HDDs will pass up CDDs in around a month.
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https://tradingeconomics.com/commodity/natural-gas
1. 35 years. Lowest September price in almost 3 decades (outside of COVID-Sept. 2020)
2. 5 year-Wedge formation. Lower highs and higher lows.
3. 1 year- very distinct wedge
4. 1 week
7 day temps for the EIA report:
https://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/tanal/temp_analyses.php
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Note the blue line continuing to slowly erode the surplus that at one time was easily a record earlier this year and has been sinking into the top of the 5 year range, headed towards the 5 year average. Why prices are near 30 year lows for the month of September is baffling. Suggesting an economic slowdown from lost industrial demand? While residential demand for heating and cooling is fairly inelastic.
https://ir.eia.gov/ngs/ngs.html
for week ending September 6, 2024 | Released: September 12, 2024 at 10:30 a.m. | Next Release: September 19, 2024
Working gas in underground storage, Lower 48 states Summary text CSV JSN | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Historical Comparisons | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
Stocks billion cubic feet (Bcf) | Year ago (09/06/23) | 5-year average (2019-23) | |||||||||||||||||||||||
Region | 09/06/24 | 08/30/24 | net change | implied flow | Bcf | % change | Bcf | % change | |||||||||||||||||
East | 780 | 761 | 19 | 19 | 772 | 1.0 | 737 | 5.8 | |||||||||||||||||
Midwest | 950 | 922 | 28 | 28 | 896 | 6.0 | 875 | 8.6 | |||||||||||||||||
Mountain | 273 | 270 | 3 | 3 | 223 | 22.4 | 195 | 40.0 | |||||||||||||||||
Pacific | 285 | 289 | -4 | -4 | 258 | 10.5 | 264 | 8.0 | |||||||||||||||||
South Central | 1,098 | 1,105 | -7 | -7 | 1,039 | 5.7 | 1,020 | 7.6 | |||||||||||||||||
Salt | 266 | 267 | -1 | -1 | 241 | 10.4 | 235 | 13.2 | |||||||||||||||||
Nonsalt | 832 | 838 | -6 | -6 | 799 | 4.1 | 785 | 6.0 | |||||||||||||||||
Total | 3,387 | 3,347 | 40 | 40 | 3,189 | 6.2 | 3,091 | 9.6 | |||||||||||||||||
Totals may not equal sum of components because of independent rounding. |
Working gas in storage was 3,387 Bcf as of Friday, September 6, 2024, according to EIA estimates. This represents a net increase of 40 Bcf from the previous week. Stocks were 198 Bcf higher than last year at this time and 296 Bcf above the five-year average of 3,091 Bcf. At 3,387 Bcf, total working gas is within the five-year historical range.
For information on sampling error in this report, see Estimated Measures of Sampling Variability table below.
Note: The shaded area indicates the range between the historical minimum and maximum values for the weekly series from 2019 through 2023. The dashed vertical lines indicate current and year-ago weekly periods.
Temps last week for the 9:30 am Thursday EIA report. COOOOL Eastern half (where more people live and more ng demand for cooling exists). Very warm West.
I will guess that the injection will be higher than recent weeks.
https://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/tanal/temp_analyses.php
We are entering a period when HDDs AND CDDS often add up to the lowest totals during the year.
CDDS are elevated in the forecast on the right of this European model (purple was the last 0z run, tan was the previous run 12 hours earlier) but I'm not sure how bullish that is in late September but its NOT bearish. CDDs will be passing them up, seasonally in a month.