https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aItGIPk0eKA well lookie here. After 4 F'ing years thus investigation finally revels there were FBi outside, inside and among the entire event and lied over and over again. 4 years and they will not release who what and where or how much. We have had 4 years of this crap and now it will not released until after the next inaguration...just how s this possible
mcfarm,
The rock solid, proven facts have been posted here, many hundreds of times about what happened on January 6th and how there WAS NO CHEATING in the 2020 election.
You are welcome to pass on horse manure from your favorite far right source but I will debunk it with 1,000 times more authentic facts, gathered from objective, independent research.
I could respond with 1 trillion times more information but you and 10s of millions of Rs have decided to believe in things that support what you wish were true. AND NOTHING WILL EVER CHANGE THAT.
YOU WILL NEVER CHANGE YOUR MINDS, NO MATTER WHAT. YOU WILL ALWAYS BELIEVE SOURCES THAT TWIST FACTS AND LIE ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED BECAUSE THATS WHAT YOU WANT TO BELIEVE!
It would take you the entire day to read all the proof at the dozens of links and 100s of posts that I made below. You didn't get it the 1st, 2nd.......200th time but I assumed that to be a permanent condition a few years ago.
However, regardless of you being welcome to post bs if thats what you want to do, you must know by now that this is an ANTI echo chamber and my response will be with the objective truth again.
The nice thing is that I already did all the hard work to establish personal, authentic discernment of the facts with an objective/independent mind. Then documented and posted/shared it here.
Now, you keep giving me additional opportunities to share this work again with others!!!
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around 200 trancripts released from jan 6th
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Started by mcfarm - June 17, 2023, 4:52 p.m. https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/96365/
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Hidden Jan. 6 Transcript Revealed, Undermining House Committee’s Claim
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Started by cutworm - March 11, 2024, 2:47 p.m.
so you just called the inspector general Horiwitch horse manure. Hell why don't you drop the pretense and call him garbage too. He is the one who sat there and never corrected a word that the congressman quizzed him on. But did say its "classified" and it "will be in the report"....when it comes....say after Biden and Pelosi are dead and buried. Pretty easy to throw a lot words at people when the fact are buried in a report that should of been completed years ago had the cia, fbi, doj, state dept and others all not colluded, lied, and fabricated. after all these years of you saying you are the arbiter of truth and now you just want 1/2 the story out there, that is mighty strange
Thanks, mcfarm,
1/2 the story?
How about I literally spent many hundreds of hours objectively gathering every shred of evidence to gain insight.
When I do this, I’m not like you that just goes to your favorite sites, then repeat things that you see and hear that line up with what you want to believe.
I believe nothing from either side on face value. When I do research, I don’t do it to bolster what I think that I know already.
I TRY TO LEARN NEW THINGS EVERY SINGLE TIME, ESPECIALLY THINGS THAT SHOW I WAS WRONG ABOUT SOMETHING!
If somebody disagrees with me on an issue I will INITIALLY assume that they are right, then spend time looking for evidence that they are right because it’s a potential opportunity to learn something new.
On this topic, going back more than 3.5 years, I used that approach 100 times and each time, it was the same result……….finding more and more evidence that proved Trump and the far right position is completely wrong.
Even when you guys suddenly chimed in, years later with a revelations from a far right source that you watched or listened to that suddenly discovered a small new secret that we are to believe, somehow eluded the world after all this time and proves you right, against a pile of 100% proven evidence the size of mt. Everest.
I know the comprehensive, entire story better than anyone…..in great part, thanks to you guys for disagreeing every time and me rechecking the authentic facts over and over and while doing that, finding NEW facts that have gone the exact same way nearly 100% of the time.
This issue was long, long ago settled by every reasonable standard and by a solar system sized margin.
So it just leaves me to analyze your pathological cognitive bias, driven by your politically driven desire to believe in things that you wish were true.
The thing that bothers me the most are the nefarious sources targeting my R friends like you and stealing your intelligence for their agenda. Often driven by self serving financial, ratings and political motivation because, seriously the complete nonsense They continue to sell convincingly, based on using people’s desire to believe should be criminal.
Frankly, since I proved everything 100 times already, I’m not going to waste time starting all over to show all the overwhelming evidence again to prove it for 101st time., so that you can completely reject every iota of the truth for the 101st time. It s all in the posts I sent….and then some!
Good riddance, mcfarm!
The first link that I copied for you has 169 different threads, posts and articles undisputedly proving the truth on this.
In all that time, what have you learned?
I pretty well documented everything that I learned and shared via independently verified facts in those posts.
You just keep repeating things that you see and hear that you want to believe in.
mcfarm,
The way that I look at this is that without you guys having this perpetual (sincere) belief in a completely manufactured, far right, fake reality I would not have been incentivized to become an elite, independent, objective authority on the topic.
You’ve read my dozens of threads and hundreds of posts defending Trump when he is innocent The past 7 years., which proves open mindedness, objectivity and a commitment to using the authentic facts for discernment of the universal 1 indisputable truth that exists in so many realms that feature 1 side inventing a concocted, fake reality to establish false narratives for their political agenda.
Each side does it in a huge way. Being moderator here, spending many thousands of hours doing objective fact checks of these manufactured realities , has provided the wonderful training to a mind that would now make for an elite judge.
Judges, all day long have to make decisions on who is guilty and who is innocent based on the objective facts and very often have to make “judgement” calls based on applying a very unique ability to have authentic insight in seeking truth and justice.
The same ability when applied to trading can help sort out the wheat from the chaff when analyzing the countless elements contributing simultaneously to price direction…..often featuring opposing forces.
And the time spent doing the analysis is often fun while learning every time. Every day, the markets and the world are dialing in new pieces of information that have an impact to a million different things. Sometimes the new information is 100% convincing sounding propaganda/fake news, at other times its a profoundly enlightening revelation with a ,powerful impact.
The trick, which eludes many people is the ability to have the insight and wisdom which provides authentic discernment.
people will look at the exact same information in many realms and often come to completely opposite conclusions. There is a skill involved with ascertaining facts, applying an analysis, then using it for authentic insight.
mcfarm, you have greatly assisted me in developing that skill.
A huge thanks for doing that as well as giving me practice to apply patience and respect in treating other people that i disagree with or get frustrated with but want to maintain a friendship with.
could not disagree more. If Trump wins it will be a margin wide enough there will be little debate or else he will not win. Just reality sorry. Have heard tons of talk {that means little} of a strong possibility of 300 plus electoral college votes. That should be enough to end lots of crazy talk lets hope. Maybe even enough to finally shut Hillary and the obamas mouths.
I sure hope that you’re right mcfarm…….on the accepting part…….and for both parties!
Knewz.com is reporting that Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz has released a 79-page report on the FBI's use of confidential human sources (CHSs) during the January 6, 2021, Capitol protests. The report has revealed that 26 FBI informants were present at the Capitol, with several entering the building and more than a dozen accessing restricted areas. FBI director Christopher Wray had previously stated, “If you’re asking if the violence at the Capitol was part of some operation orchestrated by FBI sources or agents, the answer is no!”
George Washington University law professor Jonathan Turley commented on the report, raising questions about the role of informants during the Capitol incident. Turley said, "It may raise more questions than answers. It confirms that confidential sources did indeed enter the Capitol and restricted areas."
Turley added, "The IG suggests that they were not engaged in the core criminal conduct prosecuted on that day. Yet, if revealed to the defense, including hundreds who pleaded guilty, defense counsel would not just take the government's word for what these sources did on that day."
Vice President-elect JD Vance said, “For those keeping score at home, this was labeled a dangerous conspiracy theory months ago."
Thanks much, cutworm!
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/daily-memo/3260074/secret-sources-fbi-january-6-what-did-they-do/
It should be noted that confidential human sources are not employees of the FBI. As for actual FBI agents, the report said, “The FBI did not have any undercover employees at the Ellipse, on the National Mall, or at the Capitol on January 6.”
The report says the Field Office 4 CHS “was not authorized to enter the Capitol or a restricted area, or to otherwise break the law on January 6, nor was the CHS directed by the FBI to encourage others to commit illegal acts on January 6.” So what did Field Office 4 CHS do? That is a little less clear.
House oversite committee
Pentagon leadership prioritized concerns of optics over their duty to protect lives,” said Chairman Loudermilk. “President Trump met with senior Pentagon leaders and directed them to make sure any events on January 6, 2021 were safe. It is very concerning that these Senior Pentagon officials ignored President Trump’s guidance AND misled Congressional Leaders to believe they were doing their job, when they were not. The DoD IG’s report is fundamentally flawed. It does not draw conclusions from the interviews they conducted, but pushes a narrative to keep their hands clean. We have many questions for them, and we will continue to dig until we are satisfied the American people know the truth."
Days before January 6, 2021, President Trump met with senior Pentagon leaders urging them to do their jobs to protect lives and property. Chairman of the Joint Chiefs Mark Milley, recalls a conversation between the Acting Secretary of Defense Chris Miller, and President Trump:
Milley: “The President just says, ‘Hey, look at this. There’s going to be a large amount of protestors here on the 6th, make sure that you have sufficient National Guard or Soldiers to make sure it’s a safe event.’… [POTUS said] I don’t care if you use Guard, or Soldiers, active duty Soldiers, do whatever you have to do. Just make sure it’s safe.' [SecDef] Miller responds by saying, 'Hey, we’ve got a plan, and we’ve got it covered.'”
On January 5, the Secretary of the Army, Ryan McCarthy, placed unprecedented restrictions on DCNG Commander Major General William Walker to prevent any movement to the Capitol without Secretary McCarthy’s explicit permission on January 6 and 7.
On January 6, 2021, the outer perimeter on the West Front of the U.S. Capitol was breached by rioters at 12:53pm. The DCNG arrived five hours later. Click here to view the timeline.
These transcripts prove President Trump’s senior Pentagon leaders were focused on OPTICS, instead of doing their job, as the Capitol was breached:
Miller: “There was absolutely – there is absolutely no way I was putting U.S. military forces at the Capitol, period.”
Director of the Army Staff, Lieutenant General Walter Piatt: “Was optics a concern for us as we prepared to use soldiers downtown in Washington D.C? Absolutely.”
As “optics” concerns were being discussed and Secretary McCarthy claims he was ‘developing a plan’, the DCNG was ready to move, less than 2 miles from the Capitol – awaiting Secretary McCarthy’s authorization.
Walker’s General Counsel, Colonel Earl Matthews: “We were seeing the Congress of the United States being overrun, and the Guard – and the Capitol Police, the MPD, they need help. We had people at the D.C. Armory who are able to help, and they’re not moving. They’re not allowed to move.”
DCNG Command Sergeant Major Michael Brooks: “They were ready to go, and they just couldn’t understand why they were still sitting there. Literally sitting on a bus, just waiting to drive to the Capitol and do the best they could do to support Capitol Police.”
At 3:04pm, Miller provided verbal approval to Secretary McCarthy for immediate deployment of the DCNG. What was Secretary McCarthy doing between receiving this approval, and 5:08pm, when the order eventually reaches the D.C. National Guard? Why didn’t he communicate this approval for a full two hours?
At 3:18pm, Secretary McCarthy told Congressional Democrat Leadership that the DC National Guard had the “green light” and “is moving”. Two hours would pass before Secretary McCarthy’s deployment order would ACTUALLY be communicated to the DCNG.
In these vital hours, the DCNG had been trying but was unable to reach Secretary McCarthy.
DCNG Adjutant General Aaron Dean: “[Walker] tried to call Secretary McCarthy three times between 2:30 and 5pm. He said, ‘I haven’t heard from him all day.’ When he tried to call his cell phone, it went straight to voicemail.”
Thanks, cutworm!Here we go again!
After proving exactly what REALLY happened dozens of times here with dozens of indisputable facts that define 99% of what happened, people who have decided they don't like the authentic version, go to sources that completely distort what happened, using tidbits or information that ignore 99% of the most important facts.
They often distort the situation to make it appear to be THE exposing of some secret that has been hidden for almost 4 years that suddenly has emerged to trump the 99% of rock solid proven facts WHICH DEFINE WHAT HAPPENED.
Let's face it, you will never believe the truth but I will show it to you again.
Trump was 100% the cause of the Insurrection, trying to overturn the 2020 election for the previous 2 months. Then incentivizing his flock to come to Washington to "fight, to take our country back". Trump was 100% the one that set things up. Trump was the one that sat in his office, by himself for 3+ hours in blissful glee, watching the Insurrection on his monitors, while dozens of his contacts texted and messaged him nonstop, pleading for him to call off his people doing this for him and to take actions but he refused........until it was already over.
Then, later he would refer to it as "a beautiful day" because it went EXACTLY AS HE PLANNED except Donald Trump's Insurrectionists were stopped, then later arrested and held accountable.
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cutworm,
The evidence that you think means that what really happened, didn't really happen, would be like, during the 1930's Dust Bowl, a weather system with some sprinkles passes by and a drought denier claiming for the next 4 years that it wasn't really a drought. "see, that rain proves there was no drought!"
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the only evidence that this shows is more proof of how powerful human cognitive bias is…….when people are convinced in something THEY WANT to believe, there is nothing you can show or state to them that will change their minds.
By definition, they will completely reject everything that contradicts what they want to believe, even if it’s the indisputable truth with crystal clear facts/evidence.
They will believe EVERYTHING that lines up with what THEY WANT TO BELIEVE, including things that have no bearing and that are hogwash.
THIS MAKES THEM EXTREMELY VULNERABLE TO MESSAGING FROM NEFARIOUS SOURCES THAT UNDERSTAND THIS AND USE IT TO MANIPULATE PEOPLE.
When I share this assessment here, it's NOT to be critical of those that are victimized by these sources. Many of them taken in are bright people and are almost all extremely sincere in believing:
1. It's sharing the authentic truth with friends here
2. It ticks me off that they are doing this to my friends here.
3. Readers/posters have the right to think and state what they want and have opinions.
4. Facts, like gravity, the earth revolving around the sun, photosynthesis, 2+2=4, who won the 2020 election and who caused the Insurrection are NOT OPINIONS. They have been indisputably proven with numerous lines of evidence as authentic facts. The last 2, by me here with 100s of posts to satisfy all reasonable requirements by every standard. Not believing, just means you don't believe in proven authentic facts.
It doesn't mean that people who disagree with who caused the insurrection HAVE A VALID OPINION! They are as wrong as 2+2=6!
https://fee.org/articles/30-priceless-quotes-from-the-great-thomas-sowell/