Trump comes roaring back!
It wasn't the VP pick.
It wasn't the youth vote due to Gaza.
It wasn't a poorly run campaign by Harris: Evidence: She campaigned exclusively in the swing states and lost, on average, 1.5% relative to Biden's winning performance in those states in 2020. How did she do in the other 43 states? On average, 3.5% worse than Biden in 2020. Therefore, where she campaigned, she fared better than places she didn't.
It was primarily inflation. Not that presidents have much control over inflation. But that's the perception. "Things were better under Trump."
I thought Dobbs would get Harris over the finish line. It turns out young men without college education came in big for Trump and he also has closed the gap with Hispanics to nearly even.
There is no solution for the hollowing out of the middle class. Those struggling turned to Trump. In 2016 I said let's give him a chance. But now I'm afraid I know him too well. I hope I don't hear a Trump supporter offer a peep about how they hate crime. They elected a criminal.
Thanks, joj!
I respect your opinions but disagree with some of that.
These are some of my thoughts:
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/108478/#108517
With regards to Trump being a criminal, I've heard the Ds repeat that thousands of times...........not realizing that may have ADDED a million votes for Trump yesterday.
The Ds think Trump voters are hypocrites or dishonorable because they voted for a felon and they are completely missing the reality.
They are NOT voting for Trump despite knowing that he's a convicted criminal based on legit crimes and he belongs in jail.
Most of them were STILL voting for Trump, knowing that every one of those convictions were bogus, manufactured crimes and a weaponizing of the criminal justice system.
Then there were a small number of people that used that to change their minds about voting for him.
A Larger than that number, were people that decided to vote for Trump BECAUSE THEY WERE BOTHERED THAT THE CORRUPT CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM WOULD MAKE UP BOGUS CRIMES TO HURT A POLITICAL OPPONENT.
Did that impact the results of the election?
You labeling him as a criminal suggests that you think the convictions were true justice. Correct me if thats a bad assumption.
we should look at it this way:
His best performance yet, by far occurring AFTER this happened tells us what Americans think.
No, not just MAGA/far right Americans. They voted for him in 2016 and 2020.
We have to ask, what is different about Trump in 2024 that caused him to do so much better?
Most everything about him is the same, except, in my opinion his offensive communicating and saying crazy things is WORSE!
I believe the D strategies to destroy him BACKFIRED BIG! Many millions of other people, apparently agree and xpressed that in this last election.
Previous related threads that expose these farce trials:
Get Trump-Hush Money Hullabaloo
26 responses |
Started by metmike - April 17, 2024, 4:57 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/103255/
Trump civil fraud trial-nonsense
Started by metmike - Nov. 12, 2023, 2:43 a.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/100509/
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Trump rape case
Started by metmike - May 3, 2023, 9:33 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/94926/
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Using this tactic to destroy Donald Trump has been a mainstay approach by the Ds and justice department the past 8 years!!!
Comprehensive coverage and objective analysis of the 2.5 year blatantly corrupt Mueller investigation:
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/103780/#103832
Here on November 6, 2024, does it look like Donald Trump has been destroyed???
He’s hitting his peak!
This, in spite of him losing millions of moderate Rs or Liz Cheney type Rs.
where did all the new people come from to replace his lost supporters.
Mike asked: “where did all the new people come from to replace his lost supporters.”
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Hey Mike,
1) Latino men
2) Black men
3) Young white men without college education
Bingo!
Thanks very much for adding additional insight and solid evidence for this, Larry!
Not coincidentally, those same groups are also the ones who are criminally profiled unjustly by law enforcement and the criminal justice system in our country, often based on race and gender.
Those men can relate more than the rest of America to the justice system targeting him unfairly and piling on bs charges, using manufactured evidence and justification because of who he is and NOT what he did.
This mentality not only applies to the belief that cops do this on the streets but also prosecutors do this in the court system.
The previous post with prior links shows many dozens of pieces of the overwhelming, powerful evidence of them doing the exact same thing to Trump but in a different realm….politics. And with the same unethical targeting and completely different justice system for Donald Trump compared to other Americans.
There were other reasons for his gains across the board but this was a big one and it strongly contradicts the belief from Ds that have pinned the criminal narrative on him and repeat it over and over and over ….that it’s severely damaged his reputation and should be negatively impacting his voter support.
Its done the exact opposite and backfired, helping to get him elected again.
This is why I have continued to vehemently insist that they stick to attacking Trump for all his many, many legit flaws and crimes.
When you make massive things up about somebody, even a bad person, it creates a legit reason to have empathy for that person.
With less than a month to go, the Ds and MSM came out with the Hitler attack. Insisting that he admired Hitler because they have so much in common and bla, bla, bla!
Non TDS people know this is way over the top and some of us think it’s offensive and blatantly misleading, including because doing the comparison implies that Hitler was not as bad as he really was.
Please do point out Trumps mega flaws, I have a thread here where I let him have it full force using profound, reality backed evidence.
you guys can talk all around the problems all day but here s the deal. You had a fraud of a candidate in unison with Biden calling 1/2 the country garbage. Then that fraud comes out last nite and tops every lie she has told. What did she say last nite. I love this country, I really love America. Now just to put an explanation point on all the crap, yes total crap she has come with this is the topper and do you not really think Americans have had enough? Do you really believe they have not seen thru this fraud for years? My heart is full she offered. Ohh hell yes but even more important her and Bidens bank accounts are full and that was the goal all along.
And again where are the missing 18 million votes offered in 2020 but not produced in this "most historic election in history" according to the libs, The election to save democracy. Remember that election and somehow we are 18 million votes short. You would have to wonder just where are those missing votes. And if you were an honest broker you would be questioning again just what happened in 2020
Jan 6 was a crime. Hundreds of people were convicted and are serving time. The leader of that crime has been elected president. I can live with that. But DON’T complain about crime!!
You parrot Trump when you talk about the weaponization of the justice system.
There were some who committed a crime yes.
They were many many more who did not. And were persecuted falsely. Not to mention if you would of noticed j. there was a US service member killed by a unqualified dei hire that day and it was murder. Now that is a crime but how many days did he spend in jail I wonder.
I really do not care but you and all the msnbc fakes, the cnn frauds and the media at large can all look at this election and complain and blame but a logical person might advise some blame pointed at the left for their candidates and presentation.
Jan 6 was a crime.
We agree totally on that one, joj!
Trump is Toast-2020 election case
Started by metmike - Oct. 2, 2024, 5:39 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/107804/
SCOTUS: 6-3 POTUS immunity but only for official acts
21 responses |
Started by WxFollower - July 1, 2024, 12:35 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/105284/#105326
Jan 6 indictment/Trump(8-1-2023)
Started by metmike - Aug. 1, 2023, 10:32 a.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/97784/
It is NOT about the 1st Amendment
23 responses |
Started by joj - Aug. 3, 2023, 7:43 a.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/97845/
Finally-a legit case against Trump!
Started by metmike - Aug. 27, 2024, 8:02 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/107000/
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At these 2 links below, you'll find hundreds of posts and articles from me elaborating the details of the Mt. Everest sized pile of evidence showing that Jan 6 and attempts to overturn the 2020 were serious crimes committed by Donald Trump. But to my amazement, almost 4 years later, they never took him to trial and convicted him of his MAJOR CRIMES. Yet NY was given free reign to manufacture crimes, charges and penalties with nonsense convictions and penalties. THOSE were the ones that "legally" make him a felon.
How can this make sense in a country with a rational and fair justice system?
around 200 trancripts released from jan 6th
Started by mcfarm - June 17, 2023, 4:52 p.m. https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/96365/
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Hidden Jan. 6 Transcript Revealed, Undermining House Committee’s Claim
Started by cutworm - March 11, 2024, 2:47 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/102613/
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And my personal, FACT BASED opinion on Trump is of a human being that communicates in a way and has the personality of a person that should NOT BE the president.
Re: Re: Trump is Toast-2020 election case
By metmike - Oct. 4, 2024, 12:01 p.m.
I am 100% convinced that Trump is mentally ill, using a CLINICAL/MEDICAL definition.
Trump 7-26-24
Started by metmike - July 26, 2024, 11:34 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/106215/
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So why did I vote for Trump?
1. I had decided to abstain because of my PERSONAL feelings and the facts presented above. I could NEVER vote for Harris or Biden in a zillion years.
2. On Oct. 28th, I discussed this with my wife in a casual conversation and she was vehement that it was my duty to vote, especially since I spend so my time here giving my political views. (mcfarm basically told me the same things several weeks earlier). What a horrible example I would be to abstain because I didn't like the candidates.
3. She convinced me and I looked at legit reasons TO VOTE instead of using dozens of reasons for NOT voting. Ending the war in Ukraine fast under a Trump presidency immediately jumped out and since that time, I feel extremely justified for voting Trump for all the reasons that I've been speaking out against the war in Ukraine for over 2 years.
Zelensky in the US 9-23-24
62 responses |
Started by commodityman - Sept. 23, 2024, 11:51 a.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/107607/
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: We should also note Re: Zelensky in the US 9-23-24
By metmike - Nov. 6, 2024, 7:59 a.m.
Congratulations to all Ukrainians this morning. Your long lived, horrific war with nothing but messages telling us we need to support it going on to infinity …….finally will see an end point.
The 2 people that clearly understand the authentic dynamics will be given power to use for ending the war as soon as possible. When will that be?
Dunno but much, MUCH sooner than those elites that are benefiting for self enrichment/agenda prefer. They have no rational end,point. Just a completely retarded victory plan with no semblance to-the reality on the ground.
That will end and hopefully a democracy will be restored with Ukrainians having the right to vote in a election again to either oust dictator Zelensky or he will choose not to run rather than face losing.
Here's one far left guys explanation.
Racist Blacks and Hispanics against their own race!
And misogyny from them. I think that, for sure there was some misogyny but why did men vote LESS for Kamala than they did Hillary??
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My explanation makes complete sense but their heads would explode if they comprehended it.
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/stephen-a-smith-blasts-oprah-winfrey-michelle-obama-alienating-voters
"In the end, celebrities, who are worth hundreds of millions, if not billions, who most American citizens feel are incredibly detached from their way of life and their quality of life, were not going to get away and guilt them into doing something different than what their experience says is going on and what they should do about it," Smith said on a recent edition of his "Stephen A. Smith Show."
He then played a clip of Oprah Winfrey saying a victory for Trump could mean they would never vote again.
"This is the kind of stuff that alienates an electorate, alienates a voter," Smith said. "Because the freedom that you tell them you have, you try to confiscate morally by letting them know, you ain’t worth a damn unless you vote the way we say you should vote. Who’s going to go for that in a general election? With an economy rife with inflation, with over 12 million people crossing the border … the value of their dollars dissipating before our very eyes."
Smith then went against a clip of former first lady Michelle Obama saying Black men voting for Trump was a vote against "us."
"If we don’t agree with you, we’re against you?" Smith questioned. "How do you think the men felt about that? So we have to do what you tell us to do; otherwise, we’re anti-you? You thought that worked? Do y’all know anything about most men? You think that’s going to work?"
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https://thehill.com/homenews/race-politics/4929604-obama-backlash-black-men/
Former Ohio state Sen. Nina Turnerargued Obama’s comments “belittled” Black men.
“Why are Black men being lectured to? Why are Black men being belittled in ways that no other voting group?” Turner said Thursday night on CNN.
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My comments on why President Obama HURT Harris, not helped her. His entire speech was a "Donald Trump is the worst person on the planet and President Obama was great" legacy speech and Kamala Harris is NOT Donald Trump, so vote for her.
By metmike - Oct. 19, 2024, 5:47 a.m.
Other speeches, made comments directed at black men about why they should vote for her because they are black men.
after reading and listening to the crazed progressives for 3 days this quote best describes their mind set
"it was not the truth they wanted, but an illusion they could bear to live with"
by Anais Nin
I disagree with a few of this guys views but feel strongly that the Obama's actually HURT Harris based specifically on my observations of what happened when they started campaigning for her.
That's exactly when Harris went from a comfortable lead on the betting site, to crashing lower and behind Trump.
Their messages were HORRIBLE for the poor and working class blacks and minorities. Demeaning, lack of understanding their needs, judgmental and pure identity politics trying to guilt trip blacks to vote for Harris based on race.
Rich, powerful blacks, lecturing less affluent blacks struggling to make ends meet.... on who to vote for.
The election told us what they thought of the Obama's.
Their type of messaging and their long lived powerful influence on voters in the D party is dead.
https://www.newsweek.com/death-obamaism-historic-maga-opportunity-opinion-1982555
also the perfect description of Obama......and illusion, not real, a fraud
Not good
https://www.newsweek.com/democratic-governors-war-trump-1982648
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCna8cLHgMI
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The Ds and MSM lost by campaigning on TDS and now they plan to spend the next 4 years with TDS on steroids. It worked in 2020 and during Trump's first term. I think that all it will do is ramp up political divisiveness to the next level and rip our country apart.
I've not read or heard any messaging from Ds telling their people to try to unite with Rs. It's all FIGHT, FIGHT, FIGHT!
We are right, they are wrong. We are better than them. We lost this battle but will still win the war against them type stuff.