https://apnews.com/article/biden-son-hunter-charges-pardon-pledge-24f3007c2d2f467fa48e21bbc7262525
The worst president in history continues to wreck his legacy.
He should have retired after being VP when people still respected him and liked him........and he wasn't suffering from severe cognitive issues from degenerative frontal lobe/brain disease that has resulted in 100s of embarrassing moments and bad judgment.
Trying his best to get us into WW3 and sabotage Trumps effort to bring peace to the people of Ukraine that have been pleading for peace with Russia (NOT NATO) for years.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Biden/Zelensky WW-3
By metmike - Nov. 29, 2024, 4:34 p.m.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Biden/Zelensky WW-3
For my entire career I have followed a simple principle: just tell the American people the truth.
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The facts tell a completely different story!
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/107804/#107937
What the Bidens did in Ukraine to enrich the family would .have put them in prison for life if there was justice.
What Joe has done to Ukrainians the past 3 years has earned him a place in the hottest section of hell, if there is such a place.
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/list/?category=&ruling=false&speaker=joe-biden
Joe pardoning his own son is understandable whether warranted or not. Many others regardless of party in a similar position would probably do the same. But I wish he hadn’t previously said he wouldn’t do it as it means he went against his own word, which I never like to see, and also gives ammunition to the other side which I’d rather them not have.
Thanks much, Larry!
If Biden or Harris had won as expected, then Biden could have met his promise not to pardon Hunter.
However, what he did was more related to pardoning him preemptively from the REAL crimes that he committed with his father, while his father was VP.
These gun and tax charges are a complete joke and would have resulted in fines or probation. They are totally meant to mislead everybody so we don't see the REAL crimes of the Biden family while Joe was VP and operating as "The Big Guy".
Hunter was practicing illegally as an unregistered foreign lobbyist that was selling Joe Biden's influence to Ukraine and other countries. Extorting them, with millions going into the Biden family bank accounts, using fake/shell companies that existed to hide the money and numerous transfers to make it too complicated to follow.
Now that Hunter has been pardoned in advance for those crimes it will make it more difficult to hold Joe accountable.
However, make no mistake about it. Joe did not pardon Hunter because of the nothing crimes he's currently charged with.
He protected him from the MAJOR crimes the Rs were likely to find because of the mountain of evidence which JOE BIDEN KNOWS IS THERE AND JOE BIDEN, PRETTY MUCH ACKNOWLEDGED THIS BY BREAKING HIS PROMISE ABOUT PARDONING HUNTER.
Think about it. Why would Biden wreck his legacy and break his emphatic promise NOT to protect Hunter from a likely probation sentence/fine(first time offender with solid legal representation)?
Answer: Because that's NOT what the pardon was about. I compiled the massive authentic evidence below. With Trump as president and the Rs controlling both houses, it seemed inevitable that they would open a new investigation.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/107804/#107937
Biden corruption/coverup 10+ times worse than Watergate
Started by metmike - June 9, 2023, 8 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/96097/
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/96097/#96356
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/96097/#96362
Press Conference on Biden Investigation 5-10-23
53 responses
Started by metmike - May 9, 2023, 12:27 a.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/95063/
Biden's speech 6-2-23
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Started by metmike - June 2, 2023, 8:36 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/95855/
‘Just Brutal for President Biden!’
12 responses |
Started by metmike - May 7, 2023, 2:53 p.m. https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/94997/
Biden cover ups
34 responses |
Started by metmike - April 23, 2023, 1:25 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/94709/
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Previous threads related to this:
Trouble ahead for Biden
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Started by metmike - Jan. 13, 2023, 7:25 p.m. https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/92170/
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Previous threads about Hunter and Biden family corruption/crimes:
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/83715/
Hunter Biden's numerous crimes being investigated
Started by metmike - April 7, 2022, 9:56 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/83121/
Hunter back in the news
Started by metmike - July 3, 2021, 3:25 a.m. https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/71953/
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More smoking gun evidence on Bidens
78 responses | 1046 likes
Started by metmike - Oct. 14, 2020, 7:39 p.m. https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/60077/
Hey Mike,
Regardless of what else Hunter might have done criminally, Joe’s pardon of him pales in comparison imho to Trump wanting to pardon the Jan 6th insurrection participants. Actually, anything the Bidens may have done to take advantage of Joe being VP financially pales in comparison imho to Trump’s efforts to steal the 2020 election as well as instigate the insurrection. Trump is imho among the worst Presidents ever, if not THE worst. It isn’t just because of 2020. It is also because of how nauseatingly divisive he has been.
Biden is nowhere near the worst imho. I know you think he’s the worst. These are opinions. There’s no right or wrong answer.
Thanks, Larry!
I respect your opinion a great deal.
Take out the 1 million real human being casualties in Ukraine (most of them deaths and permanently disabling injuries) BECAUSE OF JOE BIDEN and I would agree with you.
Or look only at certain parts of our own country......and you have an excellent case but I care about other people outside the US and things in addition to Trumps crimes related to the 2020 election(and his off the charts divisiveness and bombastic temperament).
As you might remember, I wasn't going to vote this year, then searched for a legit reason to vote for 1 of them.
Looks like voting for the person that would end the war in Ukraine is turning out to be a good reason, for me at least though I can't stand Trump.
I am NOT making the case for Trump to be a good president. In my book, he would easily be the worst........except for what Biden has done.
And your opinion is very legit with me in agreement with your reasoning.
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I really don't like this idea at all. Biden protecting his friends because he's worried the evidence will convict them and/or the criminal justice system that he swore worked........won't work.
Regardless of whether Trump targets them or not, it's the evidence or lack of evidence that matters in the end.....if the criminal justice system works.
I would not be surprised at all if he also pardons his brother, Jim Biden that was in cahoots with him and Hunter when they were committing fraud during Bidens 2nd term as VP.
Bill Clinton pardoned his brother but this is in another galaxy compared to that pardon.
What do you think, Larry?
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/bill-clinton-recalls-pardoning-half-194412918.html?fr=yhssrp_catchall
New York Times reporter and CNBC host Andrew Ross Sorkin asked him to respond to a piece in Politico that read, "It is a rich gift to those who want to blow up the justice system as we know it, and who claim the government is a self-dealing club for hypocritical elites. It is a promise-breaking act that subjects Biden’s allies to yet another humiliation in a year packed with Biden-inflicted injuries."
It is also because of how nauseatingly divisive he has been.
IMHO there has been much more nauseatingly divisiveness from the media, and the false attacks on trump.
I think that Trumps agenda puts the prosecution of Biden far down the list of things to be done.
Hey Mike,
I would definitely consider a pardon for Liz Cheney because the delusional Trump is saying she committed treason and wants to go after her. Wtf is Trump talking about?
Hey cutworm,
I think Trump has brought a lot of that on himself. Ironically, I feel CNN unintentionally helped him get elected in 2016 by giving him tons of airtime! Do you remember all of those evening appearances with Don Lemon and others?
Thanks, Larry,
Trump can say all he wants about Cheney and investigate her but if she didn’t do anything wrong then they won’t have evidence. I highly doubt they would waste their time on her.
shes squeaky clean.
Schiff is shady and impeached Trump on bogus evidence. Ironically, when Trump was trying to uncover the very REAL fraud by the Bidens in Ukraine that Joe Biden is trying to preemptively pardon away right now. That’s why I think he’ll pardon )Jim Biden too.
Fauci lied and was part of some stuff that might get him in trouble and the pardon would help him.
With regards to CNN unintentionally getting Trump elected in 2016.
Anytime you have a very close election, people will be pointing to this or that as being a key factor that made the difference.
The bottom line is that the Ds ran a horrible race and picked a horrible, not likeable candidate. If Obama had been running for a 3rd term, it would have been a landslide, for instance(or Bill Clinton). Joe Biden would have likely beat Trump in 2016. Hillary, though EXTREMELY qualified and deserving of being the first woman president was lacking in charisma/charm and likeability.
The Ds REALLY blew it again in 2024. Only this time they picked somebody that was NOT qualified to be president. Somebody NOT chosen by the people, after the person they voted for to represent the party in November turned out to be fraudulently represented as cognitively capable.
Exposed in the catastrophic debate with Trump when the REAL Joe Biden came out. This exposed the "joe Biden is still capable of being the president scam being perpetrated on democrats and others they were trying to trick to vote for him based on the ludicrous assumption that he could actually do another 4 year term.
The Rs ran the worst R candidate in history, in my opinion. Yet he won by a landslide. That tells you how bad the D candidate was and how bad the D strategy was. Focusing on Harris being NOT Donald Trump because thats how they won in 2020. Assuming that she could win like Biden did. However, at least Biden was VP for 8 years under a very popular President Obama, with a long history suggesting that he was more than qualified.
What qualified Harris to be president?
The Ds suddenly elevating a very unpopular VP, with an F grade as VP to a super woman?
It was never going to happen.
Who is to blame when a 1 term president loses the White House by a landslide to the other party's horrible candidate (after bowing out of the race in the most embarrassing way in US history)?
Biden was getting clobbered in the polls after the debate with Trump and would have lost by an even WIDER margin than Harris had he not been FORCED to withdraw.
That tells you what the American people think about who is the worst president in history between Trump and Biden.
They definitively were picking Biden as WORSE than Trump, which is why Biden had to withdraw or get clobbered in November.
The Biden administration hang over, using Joe Biden's F grade performance pick for VP resulted in the Ds losing the presidency AND both houses in the 2024.
Americans spoke out loud and clear at the ballet box........WHERE IS COUNTS!. They too think that Joe Biden was much worse than Donald Trump.
The distorted polls and so called intellectual commentators can wax philosophically with their bs on why Trump was the worst president in history during his 1st term.
Americans just resoundingly stated otherwise in the ONLY realm that matters, which is why he just got promoted back to president based on his performance as president during his 1st term(and compared to Biden/Harris that they just rejected by a landslide).
After the January 6th Insurrection, I thought the chances for Trump to be president again were less than 1%.
We can all thank president Joe Biden, the Ds and the justice department (in NY) for weaponizing the criminal justice department for Trump's LEGAL 2nd term.
Millions of Americans that know what he did after the 2020 election and how he caused the January 6, 2021 insurrection.......VOTED FOR HIM in 2024 THAT DID NOT VOTE FOR HIM IN 2020!
That had to be the case since millions of Liz Cheney Rs refused to support/vote for him after the 2020 election.
metmike had the Liz Cheney mentality and even now I still have it.
But on election day, we were given choices. This year, the choices were:
1. The 2nd worse president ever
2. Unqualified VP in the failed Biden administration of the worst president ever.
The worst president in history is doing everything possible in his waning days as a desperate, embarrassed, vindictive, cognitively impaired, judgment lacking, self serving lame duck to ensure that no matter how bad Trump's 2nd term ends up being, the title: "Worst President in History" will be his until eternity.
There’s a chance that Biden will pardon himself. Likely that he will Pardon Jim Biden.
HE KNOWS WHAT HE/THEY DID IN UKRAINE, ESPECIALLY WHILE VP. IT WAS VERY CORRUPT AND THEY HAVE A MOUNTAIN of evidence against THEM.
https://www.newsweek.com/after-hunter-pardon-nothing-stands-way-trump-jan-6-pardons-opinion-1995730
Rather than focusing on any particular crimes, as is usual in a presidential pardon, Biden issued a blanket pardon dating back to all federal crimes Hunter "committed or may have committed" since January 1, 2014, the first day of the year in which he joined the board of Burisma, a Ukrainian energy company widely suspected of corruption that could potentially implicate both Bidens (AND JIM BIDEN).
metmike: The Ds and MSM that have continued to insist there's no evidence that Hunter or the Bidens did anything wrong are as credible with that disinformation as they have been in telling us that Ukraine is winning or can win the war with Russia or the Rs telling us that Trump didn't do anything wrong after the 2020 election (that was stolen from him). Or that the COVID vaccination is more dangerous than getting COVID.
It's just mind boggling how people, even smart people that think they are objective will use cognitive and political bias to believe in disinformation because they want it to be true.
By metmike - Nov. 27, 2024, 4:02 p.m.
By metmike - Oct. 10, 2024, 9:05 p.m.
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One of the defining elements to belief in disinformation or a conspiracy theory is that people can readily recognize it...........when the OTHER party has the captured brains. When it's THEIR party capturing brains....... they buy into it entirely!
That's because its based on the fact that people WANT THINGS TO BE TRUE THAT LINE UP WITH THEIR BELIEF SYSTEM. They give those things a free pass. However, they will fact check and not believe in things they don't want to be true.
The gatekeepers of information, sell things for self serving and political objectives with propaganda/lies and nefarious tactics..... politicians, government, commercial advertisers, media, scam artists, telemarketers, used car salesmen and so on that maximize exploitation of this human cognitive bias as an indisputable flaw in human psychological behavior to enrich themselves.
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In understanding this with crystal clarity, I could go into several business's and make a million $$$ taking advantage of people using extremely effective selling tactics for self enriching gains.
Instead, I chose to acquire ownership in a forum and turn it into the 100% opposite. An ANTI echo chamber that busts the lies of BOTH SIDES. Challenges both sides WITH GUSTO, using authentic facts and truth.
PEOPLE DO NOT WANT THAT!!!!! That's why people all go to places that tell them what they want to believe. What they wish was true.
Ds don't watch Fox news for that reason. Rs don't listen to NPR for that reason. Both those sources (and hundreds like it) interpret the news INTENTIONALLY biased and employ people that deliver the news that way to capture brains that lean to 1 political side because it maximizes their ratings and profits.
At MarketForum, we continually bust the bs of both sides equally here. However, nobody wants THEIR bs to be busted when they can go to a dozen other places that tell them what they want to believe in almost 100% of the time.
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This sets a precedent for Trump to justify pardons for those that committed REAL CRIMES in the January 6th Insurrection, because they were loyal to him and not our country or Constitution. VERY, VERY bad!
