Record +PNA non-Nino Dec progged/Jan +PNA favored
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Started by WxFollower - Dec. 13, 2024, 3:09 p.m.

 Based on the GEFS chart’s PNA mtd as well as the 0Z GEFS 14 day PNA prog, we have a chance to break the all-time record (since 1950) +PNA for a non-Nino Dec. I estimate based on dailies that the (tabular equivalent) MTD is ~~+1.8. The prog avg (tabular equiv) for the next 2 weeks is near that meaning the progged MTD through Dec 27th is ~~+1.8. *Keep in mind that the tabular equivalent is ~~twice the dailies.* Also, keep in mind that the 10 day GEFS progs have verified significantly too low since late Nov as they’ve averaged only ~half as high as verifications.

 

 Current highest tabular Dec +PNA for non-Nino:

2020: +1.58

1960: +1.46

1985: +1.39

2005: +1.38

2000: +1.23

 

 Highest tabular Dec +PNA for El Nino:

2006: +1.86

1969: +1.84

1963: +1.77

2002: +1.59

1986: +1.37



0Z GEFS prog through 12/27 and mtd: ~+1.8:

 Based on the GEFS chart’s PNA mtd as well as the 0Z GEFS 14 day PNA prog, we have a chance to break the all-time record (since 1950) +PNA for a non-Nino Dec. I estimate based on dailies that the (tabular equivalent) MTD is ~~+1.8. The prog avg (tabular equiv) for the next 2 weeks is near that meaning the progged MTD through Dec 27th is ~~+1.8. *Keep in mind that the tabular equivalent is ~~twice the dailies.* Also, keep in mind that the 10 day GEFS progs have verified significantly too low since late Nov as they’ve averaged only ~half as high as verifications.

 

 Current highest tabular Dec +PNA for non-Nino:

2020: +1.58

1960: +1.46

1985: +1.39

2005: +1.38

2000: +1.23

 

 Highest tabular Dec +PNA for El Nino:

2006: +1.86

1969: +1.84

1963: +1.77

2002: +1.59

1986: +1.37



0Z GEFS prog through 12/27 and mtd: ~+1.8


Tabular monthly PNA 1950+:

https://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/precip/CWlink/pna/norm.pna.monthly.b5001.current.ascii.table


Next post will explain why this progged strong Dec +PNA favors a +PNA continuing through Jan….

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By WxFollower - Dec. 13, 2024, 3:12 p.m.
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 As stated above, the 5 highest tabular Dec +PNAs for non-Nino on record (2024 progged to have good chance to be new highest):

2020: +1.58

1960: +1.46

1985: +1.39

2005: +1.38

2000: +1.23

 

 Where were the subsequent Jan tabular PNAs for these non-Nino high +PNA Dec?

2021 +0.19

1961 +1.41 (4th highest on record for non-Nino)

1986 +0.97 (tied for 7th highest on record for non-Nino)

2006 +0.43

2001: +1.51 (3rd highest on record for non-Nino)

Avg Jan for these 5: +0.90

 So, a +PNA in Dec tends to carryover into Jan for non-Nino. Three of the 5 did strongly and one weakly. The other (2020-1) went to neutral. So, none even went to a weak -PNA.

By WxFollower - Dec. 13, 2024, 4:05 p.m.
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Further followup:

 So, the above suggests a good shot at a +0.75+ PNA in Jan. The following 9 non-Nino Jans since 1950 had a +0.75+ PNA (all cold ENSO except RONI neutral 1961 and 1981):

Year/PNA/E US temps
1961 +1.41 cold

1981 +2.42 cold

1984 +0.97 cold

1985 +1.63 cold 

1986 +0.97 normal

2001 +1.51 normal

2011 +1.29 cold

2014 +0.97 cold

2022 +1.01 cold



 So, the current cold and strongly +PNA Dec has totally changed my thinking for Jan using the Dec to Jan analog method to a good shot at much colder than I originally thought based on models.

By metmike - Dec. 13, 2024, 6:07 p.m.
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Wonderful thread, Larry.

I actually look at this index, as well as others every day but didn't realize that we were near a record.  I would say that the record for the month of December is mainly from the extraordinary persistence/sustained +PNA for an unusually long period with ZERO dips.  

See below. 

You're PNA graph did not copy for the last month, Larry.

          

        https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/83844/#83856   

                            

Arctic Oscillation Index, North Atlantic Oscillation Index, Pacific North American Index.

https://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/precip/CWlink/daily_ao_index/ao.shtml

Ensemble Mean AO Outlook

https://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/precip/CWlink/pna/nao.shtml

Ensemble Mean NAO Outlook


https://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/precip/CWlink/pna/pna.shtml

Ensemble Mean PNA Outlook

By metmike - Dec. 13, 2024, 6:17 p.m.
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This +PNA has been part of the ridge/west-trough east couplet mentioned frequently the past several weeks.

Here it is peaking with the 500 mb anomalies of  this next cold wave during the 6-10 day period.

By metmike - Dec. 13, 2024, 6:26 p.m.
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By metmike - Dec. 14, 2024, 12:40 a.m.
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