Record +PNA non-Nino Dec progged/Jan +PNA favored
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Started by WxFollower - Dec. 13, 2024, 3:09 p.m.

 Based on the GEFS chart’s PNA mtd as well as the 0Z GEFS 14 day PNA prog, we have a chance to break the all-time record (since 1950) +PNA for a non-Nino Dec. I estimate based on dailies that the (tabular equivalent) MTD is ~~+1.8. The prog avg (tabular equiv) for the next 2 weeks is near that meaning the progged MTD through Dec 27th is ~~+1.8. *Keep in mind that the tabular equivalent is ~~twice the dailies.* Also, keep in mind that the 10 day GEFS progs have verified significantly too low since late Nov as they’ve averaged only ~half as high as verifications.

 

 Current highest tabular Dec +PNA for non-Nino:

2020: +1.58

1960: +1.46

1985: +1.39

2005: +1.38

2000: +1.23

 

 Highest tabular Dec +PNA for El Nino:

2006: +1.86

1969: +1.84

1963: +1.77

2002: +1.59

1986: +1.37



0Z GEFS prog through 12/27 and mtd: ~+1.8:

 Based on the GEFS chart’s PNA mtd as well as the 0Z GEFS 14 day PNA prog, we have a chance to break the all-time record (since 1950) +PNA for a non-Nino Dec. I estimate based on dailies that the (tabular equivalent) MTD is ~~+1.8. The prog avg (tabular equiv) for the next 2 weeks is near that meaning the progged MTD through Dec 27th is ~~+1.8. *Keep in mind that the tabular equivalent is ~~twice the dailies.* Also, keep in mind that the 10 day GEFS progs have verified significantly too low since late Nov as they’ve averaged only ~half as high as verifications.

 

 Current highest tabular Dec +PNA for non-Nino:

2020: +1.58

1960: +1.46

1985: +1.39

2005: +1.38

2000: +1.23

 

 Highest tabular Dec +PNA for El Nino:

2006: +1.86

1969: +1.84

1963: +1.77

2002: +1.59

1986: +1.37



0Z GEFS prog through 12/27 and mtd: ~+1.8


Tabular monthly PNA 1950+:

https://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/precip/CWlink/pna/norm.pna.monthly.b5001.current.ascii.table


Next post will explain why this progged strong Dec +PNA favors a +PNA continuing through Jan….

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By WxFollower - Dec. 13, 2024, 3:12 p.m.
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 As stated above, the 5 highest tabular Dec +PNAs for non-Nino on record (2024 progged to have good chance to be new highest):

2020: +1.58

1960: +1.46

1985: +1.39

2005: +1.38

2000: +1.23

 

 Where were the subsequent Jan tabular PNAs for these non-Nino high +PNA Dec?

2021 +0.19

1961 +1.41 (4th highest on record for non-Nino)

1986 +0.97 (tied for 7th highest on record for non-Nino)

2006 +0.43

2001: +1.51 (3rd highest on record for non-Nino)

Avg Jan for these 5: +0.90

 So, a +PNA in Dec tends to carryover into Jan for non-Nino. Three of the 5 did strongly and one weakly. The other (2020-1) went to neutral. So, none even went to a weak -PNA.

By WxFollower - Dec. 13, 2024, 4:05 p.m.
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Further followup:

 So, the above suggests a good shot at a +0.75+ PNA in Jan. The following 9 non-Nino Jans since 1950 had a +0.75+ PNA (all cold ENSO except RONI neutral 1961 and 1981):

Year/PNA/E US temps
1961 +1.41 cold

1981 +2.42 cold

1984 +0.97 cold

1985 +1.63 cold 

1986 +0.97 normal

2001 +1.51 normal

2011 +1.29 cold

2014 +0.97 cold

2022 +1.01 cold



 So, the current cold and strongly +PNA Dec has totally changed my thinking for Jan using the Dec to Jan analog method to a good shot at much colder than I originally thought based on models.

By metmike - Dec. 13, 2024, 6:07 p.m.
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Wonderful thread, Larry.

I actually look at this index, as well as others every day but didn't realize that we were near a record.  I would say that the record for the month of December is mainly from the extraordinary persistence/sustained +PNA for an unusually long period with ZERO dips.  

See below. 

You're PNA graph did not copy for the last month, Larry.

          

        https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/83844/#83856   

                            

Arctic Oscillation Index, North Atlantic Oscillation Index, Pacific North American Index.

https://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/precip/CWlink/daily_ao_index/ao.shtml

Ensemble Mean AO Outlook

https://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/precip/CWlink/pna/nao.shtml

Ensemble Mean NAO Outlook


https://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/precip/CWlink/pna/pna.shtml

Ensemble Mean PNA Outlook

By metmike - Dec. 13, 2024, 6:17 p.m.
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This +PNA has been part of the ridge/west-trough east couplet mentioned frequently the past several weeks.

Here it is peaking with the 500 mb anomalies of  this next cold wave during the 6-10 day period.

By metmike - Dec. 13, 2024, 6:26 p.m.
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By metmike - Dec. 14, 2024, 12:40 a.m.
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By metmike - Dec. 20, 2024, 10:54 a.m.
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The pattern change to much colder in January will actually feature the +PNA dropping to near 0.

The greatest positive anomalies will be growing in EASTERN North America instead of western North America.

The MOST significant cold bullish changes feature the  NAO AND ESPECIALLY THE AO dropping into negative territory!


                Re: Re: Re: Weather May 2022            

              

                                   

Arctic Oscillation Index, North Atlantic Oscillation Index, Pacific North American Index.

https://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/precip/CWlink/daily_ao_index/ao.shtml

Ensemble Mean AO Outlook

https://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/precip/CWlink/pna/nao.shtml

Ensemble Mean NAO Outlook


https://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/precip/CWlink/pna/pna.shtml

Ensemble Mean PNA Outlook

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GFS ensemble mean anomalies at 2 weeks. 

https://www.psl.noaa.gov/map/images/ens/z500anom_nh_alltimes.html                                    NCEP Ensemble t = 360 hour forecast product


      2 week  850 temp for ensemble mean anomaly    

https://www.psl.noaa.gov/map/images/ens/t850anom_nh_alltimes.html

NCEP Ensemble t = 360 hour forecast product

By metmike - Dec. 21, 2024, 8:54 a.m.
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PNA plunging!

AO and NAO both going negative, foreboding extreme cold in the US.


                Re: Re: Re: Weather May 2022            

                By metmike - April 30, 2022, 8:57 p.m.            

The reason for the positive anomalies in Canada is that this pattern is favorable FOR DRAINING THE COLD from high latitudes to mid latitudes. When the cold in high latitudes is drained, it started as the coldest air in the northern hemisphere because there's no sunshine up there at this time of year. 

Air that replaces it (from lower latitudes) will be MILDER compared to the seasonal of bitter cold in the high latitudes. 

By WxFollower - Dec. 21, 2024, 9:46 a.m.
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 We’re still on pace for a shot at a new record high Dec PNA for non-Nino. Current projections are close to the +1.58 of 2020.

Current highest tabular Dec +PNA for non-Nino:

2020: +1.58

1960: +1.46

1985: +1.39

2005: +1.38

2000: +1.23

By metmike - Dec. 21, 2024, 10:30 a.m.
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I see that.

Models shift the ridge in the west farther west, causing the + PNA to drop.

Also aiming More cold towards the Midwest and Plains than before.