COT Outliers and Seasonals
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Started by altctrlmm - Jan. 26, 2025, 1:19 p.m.

Every Friday I run a python script that helps spot big changes in COT numbers. These are Large Speculator numbers. I can do Commercial and Small Specs, too, so let me know if you have a preference. I also look for big changes in open interest.

Last week, large speculators swapped from short to long on the Dow. And the sugar numbers are so wild that I double-checked the report. USD and natural gas are below.


symbol: Soybean Oil

previous_net_position:  7650

current_net_position:  24214

position_net_change:  16564

percent_change:  217%


symbol: Sugar

previous_net_position:  -507

current_net_position:  -51666

position_net_change:  -51159

percent_change:  -10,091%


symbol: DJIA_Consolidated

previous_net_position:  -3329

current_net_position:  3005

position_net_change:  6334

percent_change:  190%


symbol: PESO

previous_net_position:  1668

current_net_position:  3714

position_net_change:  2046

percent_change:  123%


Commercials became short on the USD as of the Jan 3 report. This is pivotal for currency trades.

This is the Commercials net USD position since October: 


Here is natural gas since it is discussed here quite a bit: 


symbol: Natural Gas

previous_net_position:  -16693

current_net_position:  -18563

position_net_change:  -1870

percent_change:  -11%


Here is a seasonal natural gas chart I created with Python. The average high and low dates are marked each month. Isn't is beautiful? It took me forever to figure out how to make these. Now I have them for everything. I wonder how much they are just curve fit. To find out, I used them to create a trading system that is being run all this year on a demo account. 


For natural gas, it looks like Jan 27 - Feb 13 is typically a bearish time.


My name is Micah. I used to frequent this forum from 2001-2005. I recently started doing heavy market research with python, both on the COT and seasonals. I have some interesting charts and data to share. No one I know in real life would be interested and I want to show them to people who know what they are. 


My current trades are short wheat and short USDCHF.

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By metmike - Jan. 26, 2025, 4:12 p.m.
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Thanks, altctrimm!

COT data can be useful.

Knowing seasonals can also be very useful.


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2. However, this is what I have found. Advertisers that make most of their money selling what they claim are great products..........almost always don't turn out so great. Why is that? Because they wouldn't need to make a living selling it if they were getting rich using it themselves.  I'm not saying that there are not wonderful products out there that are worth every cent. For weather traders, I've shared weather products that I pay for. NOT because they make me money trading but because the massive weather information they provide (to be used for anything) is worth MORE THAN what I pay. 

Same thing with most brokers who make a living on commissions NOT using their products, systems and trade ideas but on the number of trades they get their clients to pay them commissions on. They just make their customers BROKE-ER. 

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5. This FREE post of yours has value for readers to understand markets and possible use for trading. If you want to charge people for this data.............I will delete your advertisement and just tell people to go here to get the information for free: 

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By altctrlmm - Jan. 26, 2025, 6:11 p.m.
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I don't have anything to sell. 

By metmike - Jan. 26, 2025, 6:27 p.m.
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That’s wonderful to read, Micah!
Please feel free to share your excellent information and I thank you very much!
I encourage others read it and chime in, which is what I will try to do.

By metmike - Jan. 26, 2025, 11:14 p.m.
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Since you mentioned the sugar market, Micah. If they were shorting with such gusto thru the 21st/early last week when the last CO2 data came out, the price changes last week AFTER THAT on that entire short position was cleaning their clocks!


symbol: Sugar

previous_net_position:  -507

current_net_position:  -51666

position_net_change:  -51159

percent_change:  -10,091%


https://tradingeconomics.com/commodity/sugar

0. 1 week-straight up after Mondays low

1. 1 month-January weakness reversed up last Monday after a selling exhaustion

2. 1 year-Last weeks low was a double bottom with the low from August 2024

3. 10 years-Looks more like a triple bottom with the May, the August 2024 lows.  2022 saw several bottoms just below this. Appears to have test MAJOR support.  However, we are still in a downtrend after the Oct. 30, 2023  high.

4. 100 years-Look at those incredible highs in 1974-53ish and 1980-42ish. Technically, the is an extremely long term symmetrical triangle  with higher lows  and lower highs. The steepening uptrend started after the 1985 low around 2c. The steepening down trend after the 1974 all time high around 53c. Too long to use for us to trade off of but at some point, those trend lines will intersect at an apex……or one of the trend lines will be violated.




By beckah - Jan. 27, 2025, 11:50 a.m.
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Excellent work Micah. Very illuminating. Looking forward to your next report. Keep it coming