Let's start with the basic premise that Trump is a criminal.
I'm not stating that because I'm blind with hate toward my political opponents. Unlike MAGA I don't refer to my political opponents as enemies. Trump's criminality is an important piece of a dangerous path we are on. His only regard for the law in his whole life is how it pertains to his aims for gaining what he wants. (just a game) A contractor bills him for $120,000? He breaks the contract and offers $60,000. See you in court pal. It should be no surprise that he broke his oath to the constitution on his first day in office by attempting to strike down part of the 14th amendment granting citizenship to those born in this country. Or, that he broke the agreement with Canada/Mexico that he negotiated (and boasted about).
Some politicians tip toe up to the line of the law. Trump bashes right through it. Side bar to the discussion: I'm amused by people stating that this is Trumps last term in office as if he would cooperate with the norm of peaceful transfer of power.
DOGE is NOT a department of government. Musk has no legal authority. Spending is authorized by congress. It's an easy target for a lawbreaker. Why should we send money over seas when we need it at home? It so happens that USAID has saved millions of lives in Africa with programs to avert starvation, malaria and other diseases and that it is less than 1% of our budget, but never mind that. I'm not here to defend any government spending. That is not the important matter here. Don't get distracted by shiny objects and the bluster (lies) of Trump.
Every legal scholar .... and so far every judge, says that the recent activities by DOGE are against the law. Does Trump know that? Of course he does. Does that stop him? Obviously not. While we are waiting for all the legal rulings (due process), Trump sees how much he can get.
How does the Constitutional crises come about? Suppose something goes all the way to the Supreme Court and even the MAGA judges who helped thwart the Jan 6th case rule against him. Never mind that 10s of thousands of government workers have been unlawfully fired or "voluntarily retired". Suppose Trump says to the Supreme Court "You made your ruling, now let's see you enforce it."
The spineless GOP house of representatives has already ceeded their constitutional power (oath) over to Trump.
A clash is coming between the executive branch and the judiciary.
Just listen the children scream and rant and rave. Their playground is discovered. Billions upon billions of waste fraud and abuse. And yet what do they come with? Constitutional crises for Craps sake. Are you kidding me.
We just somehow survived 4 years without a functional President who spent the last quarter century running a mafia type family that literally stole millions form American tax payers....and how ironic is it that much of that stolen money passed thru organizations much like USAID. Now if that was not enough this Presidents very own party conducted a coup and replaced him in the middle of a national election.
So given the chance to step up and help America clean this mess of all messes up what do the dems do? Yes you all know what the dems do. The very same thing they did at the boarder....make the mess worse. Checked inflation numbers lately? Made the mess worse. Like that trend do ya, maybe you ought to check again for the real numbers. Real wages? Like that trend? In fact can you find a trend that is a positive for the libs? Well I guess that climate change/dei/ trans./boys beating girls in sports/ boys in girls restrooms/tampons in boys restrooms thing was a heck of a positive.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2025/02/07/u-s-debt-clock-now-tracking-doge-savings/ maybe just maybe there is an outside chance this chart would provide some prospective on the situation
Thanks, joj and mcfarm!
I can see great points from both sides. However, referring to somebody/a group that we disagree with as "children" to demean them is more telling about the sources objective-to have a petty fight-vs intelligent discussion but name calling is a tactic that's ingrained in some folks and encouraged by their sources.
joj is a very intelligent ADULT man with some great points. I strongly agree with his belief that there is going to be a showdown between these 2 increasingly divided factions.
He makes some great points about laws being ignored and violated, even though, starting a post with "Trump is a criminal" is an immediate declaration that tells everybody that the post should not be considered to be making objective points, it's going to be about bashing Trump(even if he feels that way) and assures that Trump supporters will immediately NOT believe anything in the post and their response, after reading that first sentence is guaranteed to take the opposite side of everything in it.
Basically, it means that the 2 sides are so impossibly divided that there's no hope of coming together on much the next 4 years.
However, on the other side (mcfarm's points) its these same gatekeepers and enforcers of our laws that Trump is violating that set the rules for their self serving interests that, left in their hands will NEVER change. Their objective is to sustain this financially unsustainable and dysfunctional dynamic indefinitely to keep their personal enrichment's and power indefinitely....until they run it into the ground. Sort of like putting foxes in charge of all the chicken farms......until they eat all the chickens!
A great example for me, personally is related to the fake climate crisis.
The majority of climate scientists work for the government and belong to the D party which greatly taints their work. Its well known that one of the best ways to get funded for a study/grant is to insert something in it that shows the cause coming from climate change. This has led to incredible bias and junk science, with a collusion taking place at the highest levels, where very little accountability is taking place. People that are not being held to the highest standards by an entity looking over their shoulder, because of human nature will go down paths which part ways from the highest standards.
It won't get better by putting the ones responsible for the problem in charge of fixing it.
It takes a huge shake up by an outside force with intense scrutiny.
The problem here is that the outside force, Trump/Musk are anything but objective. They can't tell the difference between whats woke and what's legit in many cases.
Trump solidly won the last election but the margin of victory does not determine your presidential powers.
Somebody with 90% of the vote, for instance doesn't get to be a dictator and somebody with 51% of the vote has to consider both sides.
Ideally, a president that wants to bring the country together would always consider both sides. Trump's consideration of the other side, relates more to what tactics to use in order to run them over, not accommodate or adjust his positions because he hears their legit concerns.
This is the quintessential recipe for strong resistance to Trump's one sided enforcement and interpretations, some that violate legit laws.
Even ones that I like.
Once the weather warms up, the protesting will ramp up and likely with all the strong emotions and extreme views on the opposite side, along with hatred and disrespect, there could be some major rioting. When that happens, it causes their points/cause to be COUNTER productive and make THEM look bad, as well as increase division with the other side even more.
I hope not!
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As a chess coach for 3 decades, I say the D is for Deranged(-:
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-administration-reversals-policies-white-house-2027288
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https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-approval-rating-world-leaders-2027934
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https://www.newsweek.com/texas-democrat-bring-first-articles-impeachment-trump-second-term-2026701
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https://www.newsweek.com/topic/donald-trump
The latest news on President Donald Trump. Trump won as a Republican against Democrat Hillary Clinton in 2016. He lost his bid for reelection in 2020 against Democrat Joe Biden. He ran again in 2024 and defeated Kamala Harris. Born June 14, 1946, in Queens, New York, he was a businessman and television personality before entering politics. Married to Melania Trump, he is the father of Donald Trump Jr., Ivanka Trump, Eric Trump, Tiffany Trump and Barron Trump.
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What Donald Trump’s Most Loyal Followers May Have in Common
Research on the former president's supporters finds high levels of conscientiousness.
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metmike: Donald Trump this, Donald Trump that. Donald Trump here, Donald Trump there. Donald Trump everywhere. It's pretty sad that we will be living in a world that's constantly dominated by gallactically divisive news about Donald Trump for the next 4 years.
I'll be spending a great deal of time analyzing what makes him tick, what is going thru the minds of the millions in his cult that see him as a savior and conversely, what is going thru the minds of people with TDS.
That's in addition to objectively reporting what he does good and what he does bad.
He's definitely no Abraham Lincoln but at the same time, he's no Adolf Hitler. Extreme's from both sides think otherwise.
In 2025, we are living at a unique time in history. Divisiveness, Disingenuousness, Disrespect, Disruptiveness, Dissatisfication, Distress, Distrust, Depression, Deception, Dodgy and Dysfunctional are all D words that might DEFINE what's likely to get even worse on both sides the next 3+ years............if one wants to get caught up in the negativity.
But there is nothing that forces us to became a casualty, pulled in by 1 or the other battling sides and embracing the tribalism. There are many other POSITIVE choices!
How to make the world a better place
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Started by metmike - Jan. 9, 2020, 10:23 p.m.
so you really want to talk about crisis or not? https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/02/revealed-congress-spent-500-billion-expired-programs-last/ how is this for ammo?
That looks like some powerful evidence, mcfarm!!!
so you think that is "powerful"////what word describes this tidbit of deep state constitutional crisis?? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRbageBCd9w
No big deal I suppose to most libs that USAID was used to fund fake CIA documents and data to help organize and fund the Fake Trump impeachment in 2019.
Gee if only Watergate was this serious and dark and treasonous.
more from the conservative bastion sky news https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khj_ZG1gFL8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxW-5R6uBXc and now comes the cover up on the j6th pipe bomb
mcfarm,
You should stick with valid points on valid topics. You were on a roll until bringing up the Insurrection hogwash again.
You can repeat the hogwash 1 million times from your dishonest and deluded sources but it won't change the crystal clear, 100% proven and certain, indisputable facts about who was responsible and why it happened.
It's like trying to make a case for the sun revolving around the earth by telling people to look in the sky. Or that 6 months of almost no rain is not a drought because it rained a little on 1 day. Or that a person isn't dying from cancer because they can still tie their shoes.
This obsession with bringing up individual, often speculative incidents that might mean the FBI did something wrong and extrapolating it galactically into an absurd conspiracy theory that means Trump was framed, has been one of the most delusional, totally blind to the reality thinking from any group at any time in history. It is a blatant display of CULT, MIND CONTROL THINKING.
As always, you are very welcome to post it here. No censorship but you will get busted every time and I will use it to provide more and more evidence of Trump being a cult leader. Your choice.
To help others, it is important to understand mind control and undue influence.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/freedom-mind/202106/understanding-cults-the-basics
Not all are destructive, some are benign.
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Like I've stated, Trump has some great policies and agenda and I don't shy away from backing those........and I voted for him to end the war in Ukraine. I based it on a REALITY that also sees 10s of millions of his votes coming from a cult like control over people that can't tell the difference between his good policies and really bad ones/actions. Or his blatant lies, that defy common sense.......the Insurrection and insistence that he won the 2020 election are at the top.
I just typed in a foreign language to the people in Trump's cult!
Thanks, joj!
Trump caught a lot of his opposition off guard and not entirely prepared to put up the robust resistance WHICH IS COMING! It takes time, after first seeing his specific actions to respond.
It could get very ugly. I hope not but odds are high.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/MT-eFBYbaf0 talk about a criminal caught red handed and is in great fear of going to jail....watch Comey squirm like the worm he is. This is what a rat does when caught
2-11-25: Agreed, mcfarm!!! Comey and his associates are VERY corrupt.
Re: Re: More election fraud nonsense
By metmike - June 3, 2024, 3 p.m.
Make NO mistake. Trump was not the first person and the Rs were not the first party to take this position of a FAKE election steal:
12 Minutes of Democrats Denying Election Results
https://gop.com/video/12-minutes-of-democrats-denying-election-results/
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We know what Trump did after the 2020 election loss but completely lost in the discussion was what the Ds and justice department did after the 2016 election........insisting that Trump's presidency was illegitimate because of "Russian Interference!"
Special Counsel Durham Testifies
Started by metmike - June 21, 2023, 11:24 a.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/96516/
Durham's final report.........Muellers corrupt investigation
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/95210/
Sussman
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Started by wglassfo - June 1, 2022, 11:21 a.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/85147/
would our little Hillary does this?
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Started by mcfarm - May 20, 2022, 3:52 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/84655/
More Mueller corruption!
Started by metmike - Sept. 11, 2020, 6:44 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/59031/
FISA report: DOJ watchdog releases findings on Russia probe surveillance Started by metmike - Dec. 9, 2019, 1:12 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/44076/
IG testimony today
Started by wglassfo - Dec. 11, 2019, 5:09 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/44129/
Alan Dershowitz: Stone indictment follows concerning Mueller pattern
Re: Re: Pardon for Michael Flynn
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/61735/#61805
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/60589/#60599
Reviewing Muellers corruption with facts:
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/55925/#55961
Just to add this about Horowitz's covering up for the FBI with his interpretation of their unethical behavior(calling it just a bunch of double digit, unintentional errors):
March 31, 2020
new stone video
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Started by mcfarm - Feb. 9, 2019, 11:20 a.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/23544/
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2-11-25: And they covered for the Biden crime family for many years! Including 50+ of them making up a fairy tale about Hunter's laptop story coming from Russia, just before the 2020 election.
The smartest man that Joe Biden knows
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Started by metmike - March 15, 2023, 6:37 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/93831/
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2-11-25: Many of us remember when Comey suddenly took over the corrupt Hillary Clinton investigation, after attorney general Lorreta Lynch got busted meeting with Bill Clinton at the Phoenix airport and resigned her role-then appointed corrupt puppet Comey(they made the arrangement with the justice department to have them drop all the legit charges for Hillary's many violations/crimes) because of a whistle blower.
McCabe Interview on 60 Minutes
Started by pj - Feb. 18, 2019, 2:21 a.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/24146/
"watch Comey squirm like the worm he is" us worms don't like being compared to trash like Comey
Good one, cutworm!