Imagine any other President posting the following insanity. Think about it. Say Joe Biden, Obama, GW Bush, or Clinton, for example, posted something similar. He would be immediately examined for insanity or dementia and likely soon after removed from office and escorted out of the WH based on the 25th Amendment! But not Donald Trump because this is normalcy for him: 
Posted 9:26PM today on Truth Social:
The Failing New York Times insists on using Liddle’ Peter Baker, a really bad writer and Obama biographer and sycophant, to write many of the long and boring Fake News hitpieces against me. The only two people with less talent than Peter are his “wife,” the lovely Susan Glasser, and, of course, Maggot Hagerman, who may be the least talented writer in the entire stable of New York Times’ MEDIOCRITY! There’s something really wrong with these people, and their SICK, TRUMP DERANGED EDITORS. They did everything within their power to help rig the Election against me. How did that work out??? MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!!!
https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/114214801561710989
Thanks much, Larry.
This is usually when I chime in to show countless examples to prove that you are correct about Trump being deranged and that medically his extreme delusional narcissism justifies intense treatment, not a promotion to president. Which no doubt, is the reason to start this thread.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/106215/
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/106042/
Re: Re: Re: Something Is Seriously Wrong with Trump
However, I'm going to present the OTHER side here too, that strongly SUPPORTS Trump when it comes to NY and the media.
I can't comment specifically on the NYT or these reporters and what they've written about Trump because I've not read their work/stories. Obviously, based on this post they wrote unkind words about him or his agenda.
If there's an entity that I trust less than politicians and less than Trump, it's the media. Trump referred to them as the enemy of the people, which seemed extreme at the time and was clearly a response to the TDS articles from the media.
However, OUTSIDE of anything to do with Trump, I can tell you my experience with the media is that they ARE the enemy of the people...........some of the time but those times can be extremely important. Fake news, lies and propaganda from the media has killed millions of people in wars and cost the world trillions of dollars(in junk climate and energy schemes).
Their lies/propaganda on Ukraine for 3+ years.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/110073/
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/110205/
Their lies about a fake climate crisis for over 2 decades, during this climate optimum. Targeting a beneficial gas, CO2 and absurdly using ANTI science verbiage, calling it "carbon pollution" (which is a solid) to sell fraudulent science because this GAS has an atom of carbon in it. Sensationalizing and exaggerating all extreme weather and other events as being caused by the climate crisis.
The Beauty of Earth
Started by metmike - Feb. 25, 2025, 10:20 a.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/110136/
The lies about Musk's cuts:
ADDED: Re: Re: Re: NWS/NOAA major cuts to efficient life saving org would be stupid/harmful
By metmike - March 18, 2025, 6:41 p.m.
Here's that blatantly dishonest story again
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Re: Re: Re: NWS/NOAA major cuts to efficient life saving org would be stupid/harmful
Does this make them the enemy of the people?
You're dang right it does. They steal our intelligence for ratings and self serving agenda's. Many are political activists, the vast majority aligning strongly to the D party(Fox is the WORST and they represent the R parties, "enemy of the people). There are 1.5 million casualties in Ukraine and their manufactured/constantly lying/propaganda coverage is to blame for most of that because they WANT WAR NOT PEACE. War sells. Hate (for Putin sells). Killing the planet (which is greening up) sells. Sensationalism sells. Extremism and catastrophes sell.
They are a for profit business. I was main anchor, chief meteorologist on WEHT-TV in Evansville IN for 11 years.
I know a thing or 10 about the media and how they operate and why they operate as a for profit business from the inside.
There is no doubt that we still have some professional journalists out there and some media sources are objective and very reliable for almost all the news.
The NYT is NOT one of them and that's the source Trump targeted with his comments in his usual UN presidential manner that I 100% agree with you on is offensive and the language and way he expresses himself is a complete turn off for me.
But I'm open minded enough to see WHY HE FEELS THAT WAY.
With regards to NY, we don't have to wonder why he hates the place.
Look what they did to him. There is no counter part to this travesty of justice and extent of political targeting of a person with manufactured crimes in human history. Right out in front of the world.
But most of the world didn't get fooled, did they? It was so egregious, violating basic rights of a person in the court system that it caused Donald Trump to get elected.
Trump civil fraud trial-nonsense
Started by metmike - Nov. 12, 2023, 2:43 a.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/100509/
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Get Trump-Hush Money Hullabaloo
Started by metmike - April 17, 2024, 4:57 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/103255/
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Trump rape case
Started by metmike - May 3, 2023, 9:33 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/94926/
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It was like justice from the Outer Limits!
So, knowing the history between Trump, the MSM and NY, I understand his position( but have not seen the specific stories-which COULD be legit) but NOT how he communicates it.
And that is the rest of the story you guys never get to. Trump this, Trump that, Trump the dictator. Trump will not leave office. The bottom line is you do not trust the American electorate to get it right. The American voter would never stand by and watch Trump not leave office. The people who voted for Trump voted to turn away from what clearly started under Obama and Hillary and Biden. And more information comes out daily to prove that.
Excellent points in this article that explains why the Ds and MSM have been unable to use TDS narratives like they did his first term to discredit him.
https://nypost.com/2025/03/17/opinion/how-federal-judges-trump-hate-is-harming-the-courts/
President Trump is demonstrating a skill at backing his opponents into corners that he didn’t show in his first term.
Of course, it helps that his enemies are, unaccountably, cooperating.
One of Trump’s best moves has been, repeatedly, to get the Democrats to take the “20%” side on the so-called “80/20 issues.” (To be fair, sometimes they’re more like 70/30 issues, but close enough.)
One reason he’s been able to do this is that Democrats reflexively oppose anything he does.
So when Trump promises to cut spending sharply and reduce the debt, Democrats go all-in against it, even though it’s something a huge majority of Americans support.
Agitating to continue waste, fraud and abuse — especially when there are truly glaring examples of it — is a bad look. But it was just the start.
Billions for USAID: an 80/20 issue. Dems took the 20% side.
Keeping boys out of girls’ sports: another 80/20 issue, and Dems took the 20% side.
Closing the border, energy independence, supporting Israel, deporting dangerous aliens, on and on.
Trump has the Democrats jumping to defend basically every issue that a Democratic strategist of 20 years ago, or maybe even 10 years ago, would have told them to avoid like the plague.
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metmike: A perfect example was his speech early this month. The Ds made themselves look bad, just like the media is making themselves look bad when they oppose agenda that Trump is for and Americans are for.
SOTU speech 3/4/25
21 responses |
Started by WxFollower - March 4, 2025, 6:44 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/110288/#110294
'Democrats didn’t even stand for the boy who survived brain cancer,' one conservative activist said
Who wants to belong to a party that looks and acts like this............about EVERYTHING and ANYTHING Trump represents?
And here is the unavoidable problem that makes conflict inevitable between Trump and the MSM:
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/110166/#110514
https://ballotpedia.org/Fact_check/Do_97_percent_of_journalist_donations_go_to_Democrats
Is Brat correct that 97 percent of donations from mainstream media go to the Democratic Party?
According to Juliana Heerschap, Brat's communications director, the congressman was referring to an analysis by the Center for Public Integrity (CPI), which examined donations by journalists to Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton during the presidential primaries and the first month of the 2016 general election campaign.[2]CPI reported that more than 96 percent of those donations were made to Clinton.[3][4][5]
Ballotpedia also reviewed three other analyses. The Center for Responsive Politics found that 65 percent of contributions from those identified as journalists went to Democrats in the 2010 election cycle.[6]An analysis by MSNBC.com found that 87 percent of the 143 donors (who made contributions from 2004 through the start of the 2008 campaign) gave to Democrats or liberal causes.[7] The Media Research Center found that 94 percent of donors affiliated with five news outlets also contributed to Democrats between 2008 and 2016.[8]
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It shows in their biased reporting with how they manipulate facts to support personal ideologies! Most readers don't fact check. They assume the reporters did all that for them. They usually go to the sources that tell them the news that lines up with their own belief system.
Most people that do fact check, only fact check things that they don't want to believe. If its something that they want to believe..........they assume that its true and give it a free pass.
Another point.
I would be one heck of a hypocrite if I criticized Trump for attacking the NYT when I've used 100+ posts slamming the exact same MSM that includes the NYT.
The biggest difference is that Fox News is at the top of my hit list, while Trump adores Fox and they clearly have an unholy alliance with each other.
Again, the MANNER that Trump communicates with is not presidential and I condemn that! It hasn't changed that much, so its still the same divisive way to get cheers from his cult and increase hate from those that oppose him.
This is often the place in a thread that I paste this again:
Hate(and love)
22 responses |
Started by metmike - Oct. 17, 2023, 4:15 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/99752/
We're all human beings that may look different or be from different places but if I was raised just like you........my ideologies and political affiliation have a good chance to be close to yours. If you were raised in my family, good chance we would have commonalities that would bond us, instead of separate us.
To overlook that and, instead use that difference to HATE people different than us doesn't make logical sense.
The memes above especially apply to people of THE SAME family that take on opposite ideologies and party affiliations. Such a shame when that tears them apart, when if there was no such thing as politics........LOVE AND RESPECT AND DEVOTION to/for each other would rule.
Trump attacking the free press is wrong imho, especially with the constant lying he does.
“We are seeing a multipronged attack on free speech, but not just any free speech. I think, in particular, we’re seeing a multipronged attack on the ability of journalists as well as individuals to call into question anything that Donald Trump or that the Trump administration does,” Heidi Kitrosser, a constitutional law professor who focuses on freedom of speech issues at Northwestern University, told Al Jazeera.
“We’re seeing an effort to cow journalists into submission, not only to avoid criticism of Donald Trump and the people who work under him, but to avoid reporting the news in any way that he dislikes.”
Trump’s Republican administration has threatened Democratic members of Congress with investigation for criticizing conservatives, pulled federal grants that include language it opposes, sanctioned law firms that represent Trump’s political opponents and arrested the organizer of student protests that Trump criticized as “anti-Semitic, anti-American.”
“Your right to say something depends on what the administration thinks of it, which is no free speech at all,” said Will Creeley, legal director of the Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression, a nonpartisan First Amendment group.
Supreme Court declines to hear Trump donor's challenge to press freedom precedent
The Supreme Court’s landmark press freedom ruling in New York Times v. Sullivan is still safe — for now. On Monday, the court declined to review Republican donor Steve Wynn’s petition that asked the justices to overturn the 1964 precedent’s “actual malice” standard, which public figures must meet to bring defamation lawsuits.
https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/amp/shows/deadlinewhitehouse/blog/rcna197778
From his inauguration in January 2017 through October 15, 2019, Trump called the news media the "enemy of the people" 36 times on Twitter.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump%27s_conflict_with_the_media
From his inauguration in January 2017 through October 15, 2019, Trump called the news media the "enemy of the people" 36 times on Twitter.
Thanks much, Larry!
Unlike Trump, that only used that phrase to describe media which attacks him, I actually like the terminology to describe the behavior of MANY media sources, especially Fox News.
Especially since they are ~90% like minded, to the left side and collude with bs on things like the fake climate crisis or the massive propaganda about Ukraine.
Unlike Trump that just uses bombastic words without solid evidence most of the time, I rarely ever state things like that here without robust, numerous sources with authentic facts/information.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/110598/#110602
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I find it ironic that the sources that have had free reign to impose fake news, false narratives, propaganda and lies. Referring to people like me as "Deniers" for not following climate crisis religion as they broadcast constant anti science climate crisis alarmism....... are feeling the heat from somebody trying to do to them what they have been doing to the rest of us for the past 2 decades.
It's very difficult for me to sympathize with their case.
It would be like a life long criminal that had free reign to act as a predator towards everybody in their life, being upset because somebody is finally holding them accountable and suppressing their rights, which they have often chosen to abuse as predators.
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I will always be for freedom of the press but OUR press has had no accountability. They get rewarded for lying, propaganda, war mongering, anti science alarmism, catastrophism, biased political activist agenda and sensationalism.
Those are things that boost ratings/sales and steal readers/viewers intelligence to enrich these powerful gatekeepers of information.
I find is near impossible to sympathize with these, sometimes morally bankrupt, often disingenuous cruds crying for sympathy after what they've done to this business and our country/world the past 2 decades.
They hijacked climate science and destroyed it for their agenda.
They hijacked the Ukraine war narrative for their agenda, with 1.5 million casualties.
On the other side, Fox news strongly supports the horrific genocide in Gaza and Fox's viewers are treated to extreme, morally bankrupt, hate and divisiveness (but Trump cult nonsense) almost every weekday evening.
In most realms in this world, people that do jobs, manufacture something or sell something have to follow basic, minimal standards. There are laws to maintain that and hold people accountable. People MUST follow laws. No stealing, no violence against others. Follow traffic laws and so on.
When it comes to broadcasting the news, THERE ARE ALMOST NO STANDARDS!!!
The media has been able to spin and manufacture stories to use as fake news and propaganda. Report things that violate basic science and truths.
What are the consequences?
If you're Fox News, the consequences are that MORE PEOPLE TUNE IN to hear/see your fake news, told the way they like to see it.
Trump called the press ‘the enemy of the people’. Now it’s time to defend ourselves
A ubiquitous press must be suffered by those in authority in order to preserve the even greater values of freedom of expression and the right of the people to know
If vital media institutions are to survive this administration, it will be because essential media, on all sides, stand up clearly and unequivocally for the right to report the news. After all, challenging the bullies is part of the job.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/feb/14/trump-press-journalists-enemy
Thanks, Larry!
From your article:
What’s more, we make our fearless, fiercely independent journalism free to all, with no paywall – so that everyone in the US can have access to responsible, fact-based news.
That made me chuckle out loud.
The facts, actually show conclusively that they often veer away from the responsible facts and report, twisted like a pretzel versions. People then go to THEIR favorite version of the twisted news. They are intentionally selling these twisted versions to attract the maximum number of people for their FOR PROFIT business. I was in that business for 11 years before it got this bad.
For instance, joj doesn't watch Fox every night and mcfarm doesn't listen to NPR on his radio. Why not, if the news is being reported by a bunch of responsible fact based journalists?
Because it isn't. They go to THEIR favorite source that distorts the news so that it lines up with THEIR ideology. That's actually WHAT DEFINES NEWS REPORTING IN 2025. NOT responsible fact-based news.
I go to NPR, CNN, Fox, ABC, Newsweek and others with no favorites almost every day to hear EVERYBODY's version. And there is an incredible variation between sources, depending on the story.
However, more often than not, on political topics, the MSM will collude on many assumptions and interpretations that are greatly flawed but line up with their shared ideology. This is when they become the enemy of the people and steal our intelligence.
I don't know about you but one of the most important things for me is to know the truth and to discover when I'm wrong ASAP to change to being right. Feeding people propaganda on Ukraine(that has perpetuated the war from the support they intentionally generate) and lies about the climate crisis is stealing our intelligence and brainwashing readers/viewers. You bet that is the enemy of the people behavior and they do it frequently. I've made well over a thousand posts here showing them doing exactly that!
On certain topics, I will sample a dozen different sources at random, some I never realized existed before. Some that I know are complete hogwash just to try to understand why they think that way. And I actually enjoy doing it.........but that's me.
People that only go to their favorite sources all the time wouldn't know that they are having there intelligence stolen by people pretending to be objective, while they tell THEIR truths that completely ignore the authentic facts which contradict it.
It's not even debatable or my opinion that this goes on in widespread fashion. I will often post just as many stories/articles here that completely contradict my point to demonstrate them doing this and debunk the propaganda/bs.
It's easy to debunk when you know the REAL truth and have the authentic facts. It's fun too!
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Here's something you can take to the bank.
People will acknowledge that SOME sources do this but rarely THEIR source. People will fact check things they don't want to believe but give a free pass to things they want to believe.
People will SEEK OUT sources that provide evidence of what they want to defend and believe in but discard sources that contradict what they want to be true.
It happens automatically because of our human cognitive bias. It's happening in this thread, for instance.
People just do not fact check things that line up with their own belief system.
If a debate or discussion on a forum for instance takes place and there were 100 units of legit information, 50 from each side. Instead of both sides coming together what almost always happens is that they get farther apart because 1 side only believes the things that line up with their entrenched believe system and the other side only believes in the opposite things that line up with THEIR belief system. They both discard almost half the information because it contradicts what they WANT TO BELIEVE.
Our brains are being conditioned to be this way!!
We are too busy and too human to spend hours doing open minded, objective fact checks that require processing information as if we didn't already have preconceived assumptions.
Our media sources do it for us and OF COURSE we tune into the one that we most closely align with politically that does all the work, and spins out the interpretation to keep viewers/readers like them locked in on a regular basis.
This isn't new but its getting more and more extreme. The traditional media is losing viewers and readers because of new technologies so they MUST jazz things up by sensationalizing, embellishing, exaggerating. ABC Nightly news greatly exaggerates the weather and reports things that were non events 30 years ago as if they are unprecedented extremes.
Instead of just temperatures, most their reports show ONLY the heat index or only the wind chill factor when its hot or cold. And they trick you by showing a map that is represented as if its temperature only.
One would think that, on many days, much of our world today is either on fire, under water, being blown away or freezing to death. .......with weather very similar to how it was 50 years ago.
They do this intentionally!
1. To increase ratings
2. To give people the impression that this is being caused by a fake climate crisis.
This is more proof of "enemy of the people" behavior, certainly enemy of honest meteorology. I'm a meteorologist that cares deeply about informing people with accurate weather, especially when its life threatening(without sensationalizing) or impacts their crops and teaching them about authentic weather/climate. The enemy of the people are teaching the complete opposite of my lessons. It sabotages my efforts.
I agree with a lot of what you said in your last post. Biases are human nature to a large extent. And fortunately we know where to find the least biased and/or consider the known biases in biased sources we read. But I’d rather have majority or all biased than very little remaining or no free press at all. That’s the point I’m trying to make. Trump’s saying the press is the enemy of the people is dangerous/wrong. That’s a horrible thing for a Pres to say. It is anti-American!
Thanks much, Larry.
I get your point, that its ok for a moderator on another screed to do this but a president SHOULD BE held to a much higher standard.
When Trump talks like this, even if I agree with his points, I almost always disagree with the way that he expresses it. I cringe and wish he would keep his mouth shut. His mouth is his worst enemy and often the worst enemy for that cause with regard to getting other people to join agree.
I'll give you the quintessential example for me.
I would prefer that President Trump NEVER say anything about climate change even though his position lines up with mine.
He is a complete no nothing on climate change that just makes everybody else with that position look dumb when he talks about it.
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After all that evidence to strongly support Trumps term describing the media as ”the enemy of the people”
I also have to strongly agree with you, Larry that he is trying to suppress freedom of speech to narratives that are the complete opposite of the ones that the MSM has been using to steal our intelligence in recent years.
Since this applies to the VAST majority of the media and they will still have plenty of power to push back, it’s a huge part of why we should expect increasing protesting that turns into rioting this Summer.
We are more divided than ever in 2025. The RESIST movement will be very powerful and there will be counter protesters with numerous conflicts.
Agitators will turn The mobs into rioters and make them look bad. most of the media (enemies of the people)and Ds will encourage this and have a completely opposite perspective of what is happening than the Rs, President and Fox( biggest enemy of the people)
Mike,
Why would any civil unrest wait til summer?
Even George Washington didn't like the press. But you say he(Waashington) wasn't so public about it, ok. But trump criticizes publicly but he should have that right in an open exchange. Did trump collude with Twitter, Meta and others to limit free speech?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvQX6q5V1Bw
Because the MSM has been like this the past decade, with their blatant TDS reporting and stealing our intelligence about things like the fake climate crisis and Ukraine, which makes them the enemy of the people, does not make it right for Trump to be doing this. It is very wrong. 2 wrongs don’t make a right.
However, to the MSM, characterizing themselves as professional, objective, fact based and independent of political ideologies, now the innocent victims of a tyrant president that is targeting them for no reason at all…..give me a break!!!!
No question that Trump is greatly abusing his power and acting like a dictator.
And because some of the things that he’s doing are greatly flawed, it means he’s escaped the checks and balance system designed to prevent a dictator from taking us down the wrong rode.
i would definitely say Trump is violating the constitution by exceeding the limits of the powers given to him.
However, he’s also doing some good.
Again, I voted for him because he was the only hope to stop the war in Ukraine which all the other gatekeepers , especially the enemies of the people wanted to last as long as possible. They still do and are attacking him for doing this, when he should be getting the Nobel peace prize.
If he didn’t act this way with Ukraine, the war would not be ending.
Regardless, the MSM are NOT victims as they want you to think.
They have been major intelligence stealing predators operating with impunity to impose their lies and propaganda for self enrichment and political agenda.
Making us dumber and less informed on political issues that they had a franchise covering with collusion, while censoring the inconvenient truths that contradicted their agenda.
How ironic that they are getting a strong taste of their own medicine!
Larry,
thanks for pointing that out. I’ve been saying the summer for convenience but meaning “when the weather warms up across the country”
Thats when people will come out in swarms and it will pick up momentum all Summer long . I don’t see how this won’t happen.
The theme will likely be about RESISTING in some way, shape of form. Hopefully I’m totally wrong but one of trumps most powerful impacts on people is to divide them, not unite them.
The Ds gave us the worst administration in history by a wide margin, along with a host of anti American policies, then tried to shove it down our throats, using the enemies of the people and corrupt justice department all colluding with each other.
And their amateur targeting of Trump in NY with fake crimes that most non TDS types saw right thru.
2024 was the best year in history to be Donald Trump.
not because of him suddenly becoming a great man or leader.
I was 99% positive that after the Insurrection that Trumps political career was over for good.
But the Ds made unforced error after unforced error after unforced error to actually resurrect Trump from the dead.
If they did the complete opposite of their actions, trump would not be president.
They handed him the presidency. The Ds need a major overhaul of their agenda so that it better aligns with what Americans want.
Then they need a much better strategy on messaging.
With somebody like Trump acting like this early in his 2nd term they have the perfect opportunity to capitalize on his massive flaws.
When the economy tanks, they and the enemies of the people need to NOT be stupid. FOR ONCE, stick to authentic facts and not go off the rails with TDS, which Americans have emphatically rejected and is a blatantly failed strategy that put Trump back in office.
Too many words by me and not enough facts/proof, so how about this:
Jamie Ballard Data Journalist
February 21, 2025
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See the bar charts for yourself. The actual TOTAL numbers for every category are actually VERY MISLEADING. That's because they are the average of an extreme polarization.
Let me give you an example.
Let's say that you sampled 100 people to give you a rating of something using a scale of 1-10. If half of the people gave 9's and the other half gave 1's, the average would be 5, right?
Almost nobody has the opinion of 5 but the average of the extremes is 5. Using 5 to represent the average opinion of this sample of 100 people, in fact MISrepresents that sample.
Polls like this in today's divisive world, especially on Trump and the MSM, when looked at honestly to glean the best understanding of our views MUST look at the composition/break down of the views.
They tell us how extremely different our views are based entirely on our political party.
Each president in the last several decades has made it worse than the previous one. The enemies of the people have been the worst of all. The MSM on one side, battling in the ratings for the D voters. On the R side, Fox having a massive franchise/monopoly (especially the far right and anything to do with Trump) allows them to dish out the most egregious, fact defying propaganda and lies of all.
When poll numbers like this above shift, it NOT because more people are moving towards the middle. It's often a function of one side's most extreme gathering increasing support.
That's how Trump got elected in 2024. The Ds and media drove a ton of people to become more extreme right as A REACTION to the D parties agenda, actions and people.
Here, let's demonstrate that. Look at the graph below for the past 24 years. Ds still trust the mass media because its been the Ds going to the mass media to get the news told to them the way they like to hear/read it. .....twisted like a pretzel and distorted by the MSM intentionally with the blatant D party spin on it. Stealing their intelligence!
Interestingly, in 2019/2020, when Biden got elected with the help of this dishonest scheming journalism that was used to interfere with the election (fake news) and effectively vilified Trump, the numbers for blue, below that represent Ds opinion of the MSM was near an all time high(close to 80% at one point).
Wow, think about that. Almost 80% of Ds with captured brains that believed almost everything the MSM stated.
Fast forward to before the election in 2024. Covering for Biden. the worst president in history WOKE alot of people up to how dishonest they were. Covering for his anti American policies. Covering for his cognitive losses. Getting on board with the NY vs Donald Trump fake crimes scandals. Towards the end of Bidens term, even the Ds could see how blatantly dishonest and conniving the enemy of the people was. Trust in the media by Ds(which had the most to lose) plunged by over 20% from the highs a few years earlier.
The R opinion in red, on the other hand, was already super low and has stayed rock bottom the past 4 years ago, not getting worse(which would be tough to do) but the enemy of the people just reinforced what the Rs ALREADY KNEW!
If you look at where we stand today and compare it to 20 years ago, we can understand a few things.
1. The Rs have been the MOST correct about the media. The overall trend has been down and the red line below was the LEADING INDICATOR.
2. Look how close the lines were when Clinton was president. That's when the already biased to the left media, at least gave both sides in most cases. The red line was actually just above 50% in 1 year! The great disparity started under Bush-2, when the media started the full court press to use their outsized influence to discredit and destroy him because of their left bias. The Iraq war was a big part of that and Bush deserved that. The blue line actually went up a bit during those years.
3. The blue line was sinking, along with the other lines during almost all the Obama years as the media served as a cheerleader for Obama and his policies. Still all 3 line were not extremely far apart yet.
4. In 2016, we saw the extreme difference spike quickly. The red line went down 12% in 1 year and has never recovered, while incredibly, the 2 years after that the blue line spiked up ~25%!!!! to the record highs. During Trumps 1st term the MSM and Trump had a constant, vicous battle that they were both obsessed with. Trump said thousands of insane things/lies that were obvious lies and destroyed his credibility which caused the MEDIA TO LOOK REAL GOOD compared to him. That sudden spike higher of the blue line was NOT because the media earned it with honest reporting, its because Trump MADE THEM LOOK GOOD with his lies.
5. The media has been exposed since then. Now, almost half the Ds don'teven believe them and the only reason for that many believing is because they manipulate interpretations of the news so its what the Ds want to hear.
https://www.axios.com/2024/10/15/media-trust-gallup-survey
Adam Schiff said it better than I ever could have:
“I’m surprised at just how quickly they’ve created a climate of fear. I wouldn’t have thought it possible. But by going after universities, they’re intimidating other universities. By going after certain press organizations, they’re causing others to self-censor. By going after certain law firms, they’re causing other lawyers to not want to take cases if they think it will be retaliated against by the administration. Companies toeing a Trumpian line because they’re worried about losing govt. contracts.
I would not have thought it possible to so quickly create that climate of fear. We have to band together. We have to speak out. We have to push back. We have to show courage. The dictator wannabes, this is part of their playbook. The only way is by standing strong and saying ‘screw you I won’t be intimidated’”:
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DHfFGoJJAHo/?igsh=YmRsd2U3cWRjeWtt
Added the source from that last poll. We should note that it was right before the 2024 election, when the media was doing their best to keep Trump from being elected. Hard to be effective or believable when your trust is at an all time low.
Media trust hits another historic low
Oct 15, 2024 - Business
It’s the end of the world as we know it, it’s the end of the world as we know it, it’s the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine??
“Trumped” is in the lyrics by the way:
I love it, Larry!
Posted that song several times here!
The world is doomed!
Started by metmike - Nov. 5, 2022, 11:29 a.m.
"Adam Schiff said it better than I ever could have"
Why if it isn't a quote from my least favorite person in my least favorite profession!
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Re: Re: Re: Re: GUARANTEED INCOME ~ TR OR NTR?
By metmike - June 14, 2024, 7:43 p.m.
Adam Schiff is somebody that has helped to enforce something positive in me, that I preach about here a lot.
When I listen to him, I'm forced to practice what I preach about NOT hating people, no matter how much WE WANT TO HATE THEM!
And it often requires me to remind myself why hate is such a bad thing for the hater.
Over and over and over!
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Your home for money in politics
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2024
https://www.opensecrets.org/members-of-congress/adam-schiff/summary?cid=N00009585
Leadership PAC: Frontline USA
| Raised: | $47,309,768 |
| Spent: | $61,951,702 |
| Cash on hand: | $6,381,026 |
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Adam Schiff=bought and paid for corrupt politician
https://www.opensecrets.org/members-of-congress/adam-schiff/elections?cid=N00009585&cycle=CAREER
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By metmike - June 21, 2023, 8:24 p.m.
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We should note that I'm not just using words to bash somebody I don't like. Above, and on the next page are the indisputable FACTS to justify the reasoning to have this opinion about Schiff based on critical thinking NOT emotions.
Schiff was my least favorite politician long before the war in Gaza, where he, not surprisingly supports genocide and also took 5,000,000 from AIPAC.
and
https://www.importantcontext.news/p/whos-funding-aipacs-political-spending
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https://www.jpost.com/diaspora/article-828009
One recipient, Jewish Democrat Adam Schiff, won his senate position in California. His previous position as a representative from the house from the 30th district of California has been replaced by another AIPAC-backed democrat, Laura Friedman. AIPAC congratulated both of the winners
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The Super PAC spent $4.6 million in attack ads against the congressional candidate Dave Min, a Democrat from California, who is poised to win the seat. They later revealed that they also gave $5 million to the Super PAC of Senate candidate Adam Schiff, who claimed victory
Ben SamuelsWashington
If people here didn't know me (speaking out against antisemitism, pro Israel and admiring many accomplished Jewish people as well as being raised to believe that todays Jews are the ancestors of God's chosen people) they might be tempted to accuse me of being antisemitic from these last 2 posts.
But it can't work because:
1. I'm the exact opposite of that and
2. I'm just showing authentic facts about Schiff. Our blatantly corrupted, bought and paid for politicians and the entities that OWN THEM!
3. I’m also not a republican, attacking Schiff for political reasons. I’m an objective, independent scientist that forms opinions based on the scientific method, critical thinking and authentic, fact checked information.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELhqAGjjAYY so odd have heard a district court judge trying to pattern foreign policy once called dictator...so odd
Thanks, mcfarm but the video won't play because of some copyright issue.
Hey Mike,
But what do you think about what Adam Schiff said here?
“I’m surprised at just how quickly they’ve created a climate of fear. I wouldn’t have thought it possible. But by going after universities, they’re intimidating other universities. By going after certain press organizations, they’re causing others to self-censor. By going after certain law firms, they’re causing other lawyers to not want to take cases if they think it will be retaliated against by the administration. Companies toeing a Trumpian line because they’re worried about losing govt. contracts.
I would not have thought it possible to so quickly create that climate of fear. We have to band together. We have to speak out. We have to push back. We have to show courage. The dictator wannabes, this is part of their playbook. The only way is by standing strong and saying ‘screw you I won’t be intimidated’”
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DHfFGoJJAHo/?igsh=YmRsd2U3cWRjeWtt
Since it's Adam Schiff who stated it, I would usually have to spend some time to verify it's not one of his typical manufactured, political statements because its nothing but words making claims of things happening.
However, in this case I have to agree with you and him since I have objective eyes, living in the current environment. And thank you for bringing THE POINT up again.
Going an additional step in agreement, it's also why I expect the massive "Resist" movement or whatever its called later this year that will end up turning nasty, along with Ds and the MSM encouraging it and overlooking the rioting part.
Protesting is good and one of our rights (even tough pro Palestinian protesters have been unfairly labeled and condemned during the war in Gaza).
However, I strongly suspect that this will end up NOT being good because the gatekeepers of messages, including the "enemy of the people" will have an objective of DISRUPTING as much as possible.
Schiff says: The only way is by standing strong and saying ‘screw you I won’t be intimidated’”
I'm concerned that frame of mind on steroids, intended to disrupt and block everything that Trump does will be the fuel to feed emotions in mobs that are acting out that mentality.
Trump will surely speak out against any rioting and probably threaten and maybe use the national guard, which could further ENRAGE the people that are standing strong and saying ‘screw you I won’t be intimidated’”.
I've been wrong before and hopefully will be again this time.
Thanks, mcfarm!
You do realize that President Trump is the one imposing the restriction in freedoms right now?
Reagan was obviously a great president in many ways, certainly very popular but the Rs often, have conveniently faulty memories about his policies and agenda.
His policies bankrupted hundreds of thousands of farmers and ranchers BTW as he insisted the government was not in the business of helping them after prices crashed during his administration.
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Here's a reminder of the REALITY of Reagan's policies in the 1980's He totally abandoned our farmers and ranchers. It's ironic that many in the farming community glorify him today.
https://barnraisingmedia.com/jim-hightower-confronts-the-1980s-farm-crisis-reagan/
During the 1980s, more than 1,000 farmers who lost their farms to foreclosure committed suicide. By end of the decade, an estimated 300,000 family farmers had defaulted on loans, and more than 250,000 farms went out of business. This put a huge stress on rural banks, with more banks failing in 1985 than in any year since the 1930s.
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This isn't science fiction like many of the manufactured realities today. It really happened and man, do I ever remember it and why it happened. Even though I was raised a city boy but moved to this agricultural community in Evansville Indiana in 1982 and had dozens of good farmer friends that relied on my weather forecasting.
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https://www.chicagotribune.com/1985/03/07/reagan-kills-farm-bill/
President Reagan vetoed a farm-credit relief package Wednesday, calling it ”a massive new bailout that would add billions to the deficit,” and told troubled farmers that the government cannot solve their money problems.
He expressed sympathy for farmers in dire financial straits but declared that the government cannot ”bail out every farmer hopelessly in debt” and warned Congress that he would be quick to reject similar measures in the future.
House Speaker Thomas O`Neill (D., Mass.) said he would not try to override the veto, admitting the votes were not there.
In an apparent response to the veto, the Senate Budget Committee refused to cut the $6.2 billion Reagan wants trimmed from farm programs in the next fiscal year`s budget and instead backed a Democratic plan freezing spending at this year`s $21 billion level.
Reagan had warned from the inception of the farm-relief measure that he would not sign it, but the bill cleared the House and Senate because few lawmakers wanted to be on record against aid when so many farmers are facing desperate financial problems.
Here's a much more extensive discussion on this.
Numerous complicating factors, including massive farmer/rancher debt. Huge crops in 84/85 that caused huge corn supplies in storage (so very low prices) but the real killer was the record smashing high US $ BECAUSE OF REAGAN's policies.
This killed exports and killed prices.
I've been referring to the media as "the enemy of the people" for the way that SOME of them, especially national media report the news.
I was part of the LOCAL media for 11 years as chief meteorologist with WEHT-TV in Evansville and will have to say that term is the opposite of my personal experience with many of them.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/110660/#110662
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/110660/#110664
However, they most of them WERE biased way back then.
1. Election nights were like the Super Bowl for them. I recall the main anchors one year would cheer out loud(off the air) when results positive for the Ds came in. They had become extremely close with a couple of local Ds they wanted to win.
2. Our news director, Jon Ester was a staunch D. When Reagan would speak, I recall that he would exclaim out loud "How can you NOT like this guy!" "I don't like any Rs but how can you not like THIS guy!!"
3. The news director after him was the best person, with impeccable integrity that I worked for in my life. After 2 years, he suddenly quit and decided to do volunteer work for a few years. He got the dozen+ employees under him together first to let us know personally and said: "When i started in this business, I did it because I thought that i could make a difference to make the world a better place. Instead, I found out the last 2 years that doesn't matter because my only job is to make money for Jim Gilmore(owner of our station).
Didn't we all know that working there. Ratings, ratings, ratings.
After not hearing much for months, suddenly the D political emails are starting to pick up again.
Last year, these same people lied to try to get my money (constantly claiming that the Rs were donating much more money-the opposite of the truth).
For weeks before the election, I was getting 5 emails like this per day. Only they were asking for way more money.
Why don't I just block them?
Heck no! I like observing their fund raising tactics to try to understand that part of it.
It's sort of sad that they are relying on the name of Kamala Harris to maximize fund raising but who else can they use?
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One $5 contribution, please.
That is what Kamala Harris is asking you to donate to the Democratic National Committee today. If that is all you need to hear, use this link to give:
https://act.kamalaharris.com/go/democratic-party
Otherwise, here's why this request is so important.
As you read this, the Democratic candidate in Wisconsin's Supreme Court race is getting absolutely hammered with attack ads paid for by Elon Musk.
He attacks and attacks and attacks, and is now even offering Wisconsin voters $100 to sign a petition of his about the election.
So here's the deal. The DNC is already investing in this election but time is running out. Early voting is underway and Election Day itself is on April 1.
Winning this race, and others like it, would be a great rebuke to Elon Musk and his efforts to buy our elections.
But the DNC cannot elect Democrats everywhere without grassroots donations. So we're asking
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Are they REALLY going to use that money for what they claim its being used for? Based on the lame criteria that they lied about before the election to get my money, I really doubt it. Chance of me donating $1 to these people?
0.00000000000000000000000000000%.
The Harris campaign raised over $1 billion, but is still asking donors to chip in.