https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2025/04/17/phoenix-ikner-fsu-shooting/
From the article:
People who knew the 20-year-old suspect said he espoused bigoted and misogynistic views while attending student meetings of Tallahassee State College’s Political Discourse Club, then known as the Political Roundtable.
As the group gathered to debate issues dominating the 2024 presidential campaign, Andrea Miranda, 19, said the suspect would go on diatribes about how he “hated” the feminist movement, members of the LGBTQ+ community, people of color and immigrants.
“He said multiculturalism and communism are destroying America,” Miranda said.
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Larry and I gave unequivocal, full throated condemnations of the criminal activity of leftists blowing up Tesla cars. I would like to hear the conservatives on this site do the same with this MAGA shooter.
Gee and the conservatives I know condemn evil actions no matter who was responsible. Maybe you should around more. Don't you think it is so odd the msm already is fully aware of what a troubled life this name changer {which seems to be the lead in the article} has had to deal with. I have yet to see the harmful lives those Tesla rioters have had to suffer almost like they do not count isn't it?
Thanks, joj!
Sorry for missing this earlier. I've been wasting too much time on a particular topic
As an independent I vehemently condemn what this person did and also the EXTREMISM in our country that is causing mentally unstable people to think this way which causes them to commit violent acts.
January 6th 2021 was the quintessential example of what happens when you have a cult like leader that establishes mind control over millions of people that elevate that person to such an infallible status that they will DO ANYTHING for that person!
They abandon critical thinking and common sense ethics. Losing empathy for human beings that are different than them or belong to a different party, religion or nationality.
Rules, laws and reasonable behavior standards don’t matter. The ends justifies the means.
Often driven by rage, hatred, revenge or pathologically defined justice in their heads that was planted there by hate groups/sources.
Hate(and love)
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Started by metmike - Oct. 17, 2023, 4:15 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/99752/
We can blame it on mental illness. However, if our political culture didn't feed this mentally ill person the ideas in his head and instead his role models/messengers professed love, understanding, tolerance, empathy for fellow humans beings that are different than him, the crime would likely have never happened.
Sadly, our current president leads by BAD example on those altruistic traits in bold. And the ones that hate his guts will stoop to anything to destroy him just make it even worse.
Very much related to this case.
I've been spending a great deal of time at another thread, doing what appears to be defending President Trump and for the most part it absolutely does that for his decision to deport somebody that already had a resting, valid order for being deported to any country in the world..........except El Salvador.
El Salv. Pres. says he won’t return mistakenly deported man to US
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Started by WxFollower - April 14, 2025, 5:03 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/111183/
The objective is to expose the MSM and Ds for fraudulently presenting an illegal immigrant, already deported, MS-13 gang member, wife beater and human trafficker.
With this particular incident, we have a similar dynamic going with the opposing party and THEIR brainwashing of people using THEIR powerful, information gate keepers and mouthpieces.
Widely followed, fork tongue messengers that use effective brainwashing techniques, telling people what they want to hear and what they wish was true.
All of them driven by political agenda and self serving/enriching circumstances.
Most of them using hate, outrage, intolerance of others that are different than them and fear. Unquestionably, this pervading atmosphere is leading to violence just like the type here.
It provides the breeding grounds that nurtures pathological thinking for mentally ill people, just like this guy. It provides positive reinforcement for pathological ideas.
There isn't even a debate to have about this because its been indisputably proven to exist and be tremendously harmful by every authentic, objective standard.
This discussion and thread, actually should be about the extent of the irrefutable damage its creating to our society and the hate universe which is rapidly expanding!!
I'm sure that joj won't mind me hijacking his thread for another moderator screed. This one to comprehensively discuss the underlying causes of increasing hate in our society.
Thanks to joj for starting this thread
in Racism and Discrimination, Social Media
“Hate increases significantly after the election, but not just in its volume—also in its organization,” Johnson said. “The hate networks link more to each other and become stronger. Elections help hate organize and strengthen.”
Online hate communities are not confined to isolated corners of the internet. In a new study published in npj Complexity shows how these groups are increasingly intersecting with mainstream online spaces. Using advanced tools to map the online “hate universe,” researchers found that around 50 million accounts in hate communities grew closer not only to each other but also to a broad mainstream audience of billions in the weeks surrounding the 2020 United States presidential election.
The rapid evolution of online hate speech has created a pressing need for a deeper understanding of how it spreads, adapts, and impacts broader online communities. While previous research has examined the relationship between real-world events and the proliferation of hate speech, much of it treated hate groups as isolated entities or focused on single platforms.
This fragmented approach left a gap in understanding how hate networks function across multiple platforms and how they interact with mainstream communities. The new study addressed this gap by mapping the “hate universe” at an unprecedented scale and resolution.
“We hear a lot about online hate, particularly around the U.S. political system,” said study author Neil Johnson, a professor of Physics at the George Washington University and head of the Dynamic Online Networks Lab. “There is a common perception that such hate is caused by some extreme people scattered across the Internet. We set out to test if this is true. We found the opposite.”
The content shared within the hate universe changed significantly during the election period. For instance, anti-immigration rhetoric saw a dramatic surge of 269.5% in the days following November 7. Similarly, ethnically based hate and antisemitic content rose by 98.7% and 117.57%, respectively. Another wave of anti-immigration sentiment occurred around January 6, with a 108.69% increase compared to the days leading up to the Capitol attack.
One of the study’s most concerning findings was the increased interaction between hate communities and mainstream social media groups. During the election period, the hate universe expanded its reach into mainstream communities, creating new pathways for hate speech to flow into broader online spaces.
The researchers identified a significant uptick in cross-posting behaviors, where content from hate groups was shared in mainstream groups or communities. These connections blurred the boundaries between extremist networks and mainstream online spaces, effectively creating a bridge that allowed hate speech to penetrate wider audiences.
“Hate is ‘cooking’ in communities on the many smaller platforms, in communities that are strongly linked to each other (i.e., sharing content and opinions all the time), and they are linked directly into about 1 billion of the rest of us,” Johnson told PsyPost.
“So you may be part of a community of parents or pizza lovers on Facebook, but the comments and replies you see are coming straight from the large number of people across smaller platforms who have linked into your community without anyone knowing.”
This phenomenon highlights the challenge of addressing online hate. Efforts to moderate or disrupt hate networks may inadvertently push their rhetoric into mainstream communities, where it can evade detection or appear less overtly extremist.
So-called “fringe” content often “does not live at the fringe of the Internet,” Johnson said. “It is right next door to all of us — and we are probably all seeing it in the replies and comments to things in our everyday communities online.”
The findings have practical implications. The researchers argue that policies targeting only widely used platforms or particular communities are unlikely to effectively address hate and other online harms. “Policymakers have it wrong when they only pull the CEOs of the major companies in front of them to deal with online hate,” Johnson said.
#hatespeech
FROM HATE SPEECH TO NON-VIOLENT COMMUNICATION
TABLE OF CONTENTS
Introduction 3
Hate speech 7
Classification of hate speech 12
Types of Verbal or Language Violence 17
Is hate speaking always used intentionally? 20
The difference between criticism and hate 22
Stereotypes as factors for the formation
of hate speech 25
Cyberbullying or content moderation 29
Recommendations for the Rabats Action Plan 35
From hate speech to
non-violent communication 44
Freedom of speech and hate speech 56
Recommendations for content producers 62
References 67
John Yang:
Proponents of social media say that it bridges physical distance to build communities of like-minded people. But what binds them together can sometimes be hatred and violence. A joint investigation by ProPublica and PBS FRONTLINE details the shadowy world of online hate networks. Their investigation focuses on the platform Telegram, and it's detailed in a new documentary, "The Rise and Fall of Terrorgram."
“Fox’s use of ‘hate’ really took off when Trump’s presidency began. Beginning in January 2017, the mean usage of ‘they hate’ on the network doubled.”
Fox News is up to five times more likely to use the word “hate” in its programming than its main competitors, according to our new study of how cable news channels use language.
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Research | Spring 2023 Issue
Does Fox Cover Extremism? Or Cause It?
Researchers probe cause and effect with media and extremism
https://blueprint.ucla.edu/feature/does-fox-cover-extremism-or-cause-it/
POLITICAL EXTREMISM HAS BECOME AN all-too-familiar aspect of American society. From angry tweets penned by politicians to polarizing clips that seem almost satirical, a growing sense of bilateral nationalism is gripping the country. Office holders and candidates pose with guns, use targets in campaign literature, threaten the lives of opponents. Hatred for the other side is becoming not only amplified but normalized.
And anger and extremism are not confined to politics: Hate courses just as thickly through the bloodstream of American media as it does through the rest of the nation’s life. Many readers and viewers choose their news outlets less for information than for ideological reinforcement, idolizing newscasters as they do sports teams.
But which one ignited the fire? Do the media simply shine a light on extremism through their reporting? Or is it possible that the media are actively encouraging extremism, profiting by it and shaping national attitudes toward it? The relationship between mass media and extremism recalls the chicken and the egg. Which begets the other?
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I watch Fox numerous times/week. As well as CNN, ABC news and listen to NPR and others.
Without question, Fox's programming is an order of magnitude greater than the others in displaying hate, outrage, intolerance and political division. Clearly this is intentional and does several things.
1. Tells mostly far right Rs exactly what they want to hear/see.
2. Reinforces certain messages, many very negative to strongly unite that side for a common cause.
3. Results in robust ratings as they have the franchise for attracting people that affiliate with the R party
4. Constantly putting a far right spin on the news that none of the other networks do and selling that to viewers as an indication that they know secrets that nobody else does. This means that viewers need to tune into Fox for their unprecedented, brilliant interpretations or they will miss out.
I do enjoy the entertainment of their extreme, fantastical spins which are presented as THEIR truth. Sometimes (minority) they are right. Every so often they hit a grand slam..........in between the 3 pitch, hate filled rhetoric strike outs.
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Best description of Mark Levin that I've read!
https://suburbanchicagoland.com/2025/03/20/siriusxm-shocked-hate-radio-mark-levin-wls-am/
"I listened to one syndicated late afternoon host, Mark Levin, and I was shocked at his deep level of vicious hatred and unsubstantiated accusations vilifying Arabs and Muslims. Apparently, anyone who criticizes Israel’s government is an “anti-Semite” and is unAmerican. He calls them Nazis and he conflates today’s socialism with the Nazi socialists of the 1930s and 1940s. Levijn is often wrong about his facts, but he doesn’t care. I think he is senile, suffering from Bidenitis.
His program is so vile he actually screams into the microphone and you can feel the spray of his spittle from his deranged logic coming out of the speakers.
Sometimes I listen because watching hate can be entertaining, like watching a movie about a serial killer who slices and dices people. Violence and sex are among the most popular programs on American TV. Social media like Facebook censors political speech but they are inundated with pornographic video reels and posts. So much hypocrisy.
Levin can’t get his facts right and acts like a bully who shouts down anyone who dares to challenge his insanity. It’s comical. And I spend most of my time wondering when he is going to get so excited and go over the deep end and have a heart attack.
Levin is the most extreme on WLS 890 AM radio, once a haven for information that attracted open-minded members of the public who understand the fine art of talk, discussion, and how these attributes contribute to knowledge.
Journalism is facing a very tough period these days, mostly because of their own doing. They have abandoned reasoned analysis and favor catering to extreme audiences believing that moderates, who have nowhere to go, will gravitate either towards the Left or the Right."