Jon Erlichman
This one is pretty absurd.
This was headline news today at almost every major MSM outlet.
Absurd hypocrisy that is by the MSM compared to how they covered up Joe Biden's crystal clear deterioration in cognitive and physical competence.
Now, they are covering up President's Biden's prostate cancer that he's had, very likely for the past 5+ years.
Joe Biden has cancer
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Started by metmike - May 18, 2025, 5:31 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/111939/
Instead of practicing responsible journalism when it came to covering President Biden, they completely covered it up and are doing it again. Acting as his cheerleader and defender NOT reporting objective facts or applying critical thinking journalism.
They greatly dislike Musk, from the far right of the party they strongly oppose so they are pouring it on attacking him with regards to his drug use.
It seems pretty obvious that Musk has been using these drugs, probably excessively. Did it impact his decisions or performance?
Hard to say but what is certain is that Elon Musk, even when completely sober is the king of charlatans that makes decisions that benefit Elon Musk.
A gifted mind that knows how to manipulate people, sometimes with complete bs(Mar's fairy tales, for instance) sometimes pilfering money from people and the government for self serving interests.
Sometimes to make very amazing products as a gifted entrepreneur with unique vision, wisdom/great judgment, despite his blatant personality flaws.
I judge him (poorly) based on his actions and ethics, not on his personal drug use.
People have the right to do what they want with their own bodies as long as they aren't forcing other people to do it and its not causing them to hurt other people or impacting their performance.
Here are some threads/discussions on Musk here:
very under appreciated Musk
Started by mcfarm - May 24, 2025, 7:45 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/112109/
NWS/NOAA major cuts to efficient life saving org would be stupid/
Started by WxFollower - Feb. 27, 2025, 1:36 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/110166/
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Take your pick:
Elon Musk drugs:
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A similar search about President Biden's crystal clear (for years) cognitive decline 1 year ago, featured these same MSM sources claiming Biden was in great shape and sources on the right were making everything up.
Despite the hundreds of moments/incidents on video that displayed his decline over and over.
https://www.livenowfox.com/news/elon-musk-spacex-plans-mars
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The King of charlatanism trying to sell us on an impossible fairy tale.
My dislike for Musk has increased steadily since he took over Twitter and made his fairy tale claims that he will have 5 million people living on Mars.
And one of his reasons for humans colonizing Mars is because we need a place to go because we are destroying this planet. This is beyond being laughable.
The environment on Mars is 10 times worse than the worst spot on planet earth.
Even Antarctica in the middle of Winter has oxygen and water(frozen).
There is no atmosphere, no soil, no water.
The temperature extremes by themselves would make life impossible except inside of an extremely expensive space suit.
No atmosphere means dangerous radiation exposure.
It's complete idiocy to do anything other than to have a mission or 2 with a very small number of humans landing, then returning.
Chance of us ever colonizing Mars with 5 million people?
0.00000000000% It's totally impossible.
Chance of him ever having more than a few flights with maybe a few dozen people is near 0.
The fact that he keeps pushing this, for years now proves that he is not a credible person.
When you can prove indisputably how blatantly fraudulent a person is in a key area of their life, you can't trust them in the other areas.
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Musk is trying to redeem his permanently damaged image with his Mars crap. It won't work. People know who he is now and the MSM is now his adversary so his days of getting favorable press coverage are gone forever.
Couldn't have happened to a more deserving guy!
However, whether Elon Musk uses drugs doesn't matter to me.
The MSM should have been behaving like this DURING THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION.
If they had told us the truth about Biden, instead of covering up his severely diminished cognitive skills(and telling us he was a sharp guy), then the D's could have had a legit. process featuring a candidate that THE PEOPLE picked based on THEIR choice.
The MSM in trying to destroy Trump with dishonest schemes and tactics actually got him elected. Too many people saw how blatantly biased and dishonest they were and got so turned off that they voted AGAINST them and FOR Trump.
Now they are doing the same thing with Biden's cancer. Covering up the facts that clearly tell us that he had cancer the entire time that he was president.
Not being objective journalists, applying critical thinking but instead, taking a political position and manufacturing facts that support that one. Then stealing our intelligence by trying to convince us of what they want us to believe.
Many Ds are outraged with the way they've been treated.
The groups that should be serving the D voters are instead, using them as pawns for their political schemes.
The politics of the Rs are just as despicable but the Ds got crushed in November using these tactics. Have they learned a lesson? It doesn't appear like it.
Now we have a very mentally ill and dangerous president in office that is wrecking the credibility of the United States and greatly damaging our relationships with many of our key allies. Maximizing political divisiveness and practicing personal corruption on a scale never seen before with impunity.
The other party handed this over to him because they couldn't offer something better.
Elon Musk, the master manipulator knew exactly how to get the MSM news hounds off of his case.
Use the old "The enemy of my enemy is my friend" strategy and suddenly come out bashing Trump's Big Beautiful Bill hard(even though he knew what was in it for quite awhile).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_enemy_of_my_enemy_is_my_friend
It worked!
After "Elon Musk is a drug addict" was headline news for days after the NY Times broke the story, suddenly all those stories dried up.................immediately after Musk came out attacking Trump's Big(not) Beautiful Bill.
Now, all a sudden the previously not qualified and not elected richest man in the world with a serious drug habit and erratic behavior, wrecking our country.................is an important man and ally because he came out against Trump's Big (NOT) Beautiful Bill!
Way to go Musk to show us how fickle the MSM media is!!!
You dishonest, manipulator/charlatan you
Like with John McCain.
Hated by the media for years and years.
Then he got into a huge public feud with Trump and like magic, became a principled, impeccably high character, patriotic, war hero serving our country to make it better.
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The praise REALLY came out EXACTLY WHEN McCain became the enemy of the MSM's enemy...........President Trump!
Elon Musk is using the same trick to manipulate the MSM right now (that's not why McCain did it).
https://www.cnbc.com/2025/06/04/musk-trump-tax-bill.html
"We need a new bill that doesn't grow the deficit," Musk posted on X.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cvg5zpn9vkwo
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0j76djzgpvo
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Just a few days ago, the headline news from all these same sources(and dozens more) about Elon Musk were hit pieces about his abusing drugs.
POOOOOOOF! It all just went away!
Regardless of his motivation, this position by Musk is actually based on all the legit facts and it's possible that he truly feels this way. So I agree with Musk's NEW position on the Big (not) Beautiful Bill.
However, he knew exactly what was in the bill last week and said nothing...........until he became the target of the MSM for his drug abuse.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/06/05/elon-musk-trump-bomb-epstein/84054503007/
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Elon Musk, one of the worlds greatest marketers and manipulators is using Donald Trump to resurrect his image!!!!
Who would have guessed this just a week ago!
He knows that his position with DOGE destroyed his image with so many people/cost him so much already. Then the hit pieces came gushing about about him being a drug abuser that were intended to bury him for good.
Instead of getting buried, Musk is a survivor with brilliant, SELF SERVING marketing skills that trump any allegiances that he has to anybody but himself.
He's also the worlds most successful charlatan when it comes to selling his Mars colonization junk.
That's in addition to his Tesla cars and space stuff which truly are amazing technologies..........so just a part time charlatan and full time technological genius and hall of fame marketer of Elon Musk.
damn MM cool down a bit. First of all how would you find any 2 people that agree on a trillion dollar, several hundred page bill filled with pork? Second I bet anyone of any connections is listed in FBI files if they so much has had a phone call with Epstein. And we know Trump has atleast been on Epstein;s plane. Further more it has nearly been established the Epstein is tied to Israeli intelligence.....another huge reason to be in FBI files and nothing what so ever about a so called feud
I'm cool as a cucumber, mcfarm.
Just reporting the amusing news in this thread.
If you want to see me hot, read my stuff in the Gaza thread
By metmike - June 5, 2025, 7:54 p.m.
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This is getting insane. How embarrassing for the United States.
In thinking about this more, I have another speculative explanation for part of Musk's impulsive, REALLY extreme and unexpected statements.
Maybe they are a result of his drug use/addition?
This is how somebody would act.
This has been so unexpected that its taking me time to wrap my head around it.
One thing that has struck me is this behavior by Musk.
These irrational, impulsive and extremely emotional tweets by Musk attacking Trump are far beyond any strategic or marketing agenda.
This is how we would expect an Elon on drugs to communicate when he has a serious drug problem.
Some people, like Trump do it while sober because they are mentally ill or have a communication ability disorder.
However, Musk has now gone way beyond just harshly criticizing Trump for legit reasons.
Using Epstein and Impeachment as attacks in his tweets has nothing to do with legit reasoning on the budget or economy and is pure irrational emotion that suggests impulsive behavior from lack of control that a person like Musk would ordinarily not stoop too at this extreme level.
Unless he's on drugs.
At least it's evidence that suggests this, along with his already delusions of grandeur type thinking.
I greatly dislike Musk but most of what he's stating is the truth and its really good he's saying most of it.........but too bad he's doing it like an emotional loose cannon child because that reduces the credibility of his position.
Wow, though!
I‘m hoping that the vast majority of those who previously couldn’t stand Musk and were quite vocal about it aren’t going to be hypocrites by suddenly turning into his fans due to his war against Trump. I’m saying that despite disliking Trump. Hypocrisy is one of my pet peeves.
Musk may have really messed himself up this time.
After initially, providing some fact based, solid criticism for Trump's economic policies........he went bonkers.
Some of the comments that he made yesterday were extremely bizarre.
Normally, a feud like this with Trump vs anybody is a huge win for anybody(as we saw with John McCain) when it comes to MSM coverage and Ds.
But instead of taking the high road, Musk went LOOOW!
My latest speculation is that maybe his dependence on drugs has impacted his thinking?
Knowing these 2 ego maniacs that can't accept not having things their way or letting somebody else get the best of them, it could get worse.
However, its also possible that 1 or both will realize that this feud hurts both of them, the R party AND the United States badly at the same time and there is no winner.
The Ds and MSM are enjoying it tremendously.
I'm an independent that tries to just report honest, objective facts about important political things as well as provide some positive insights into trading, weather and the appreciation of our world.
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The MSM is loving this feud. Gee, I wonder why
I haven't followed this as closely as many people but this story below had several tweets by Musk that caused me to align stronger with his position, despite him tweeting some dumb things too.
Also, cutting the EV subsidies that have benefited Telsa to the tune of billions makes him anything but objective.
However, when Biden was president, Trump blasted Rs for voting for a bill that increased the debt ceiling and was very emphatic about reducing the spending/deficit.
Now we are witnessing his huge hypocrisy.
https://www.cnn.com/business/timeline-elon-musk-trump-x-dg
Jon ErlichmanInterest costs on U.S. federal debt:
2024: $1.13 trillion
2023: $883 billion
2022: $719 billion
2021: $562 billion
2020: $523 billion
2019: $575 billion
2018: $523 billion
2017: $459 billion
2016: $433 billion
2015: $402 billion
2014: $416 billion
Source: Treasury Dept
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This is just the interest on the debt!!!
Previous threads about this:
Dangerous expert: U.S debt crisis
Started by metmike - Oct. 7, 2024, 8:22 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/107896/
metmike: Politicians hate balanced budgets because a balanced budget means they can't promise to spend as much FREE money to get elected. And they don't have to raise taxes to pay for stuff.
This guy is right, that nobody can say the exact date the debt crisis will collapse the economy but we don't need to.
It's ALREADY A TREMENDOUS BURDEN!
Just the interest on the debt is now $1,000,000,000,000!
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National Debt
Started by metmike - Aug. 2, 2023, 1:15 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/97821/
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Elon Musk Says The Countdown Has Begun
Started by metmike - April 22, 2023, 12:57 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/94692/
Inflation Persisting
Started by joj - Nov. 20, 2021, 8:46 a.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/78099/
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Here was a post in the same thread above, started by joj. In 2018, the graph below was projecting the interest only on the debt topping 1 trillion for the FIRST TIME in 2029. ............assuming a continuation of the very low interest rates from 2018.
However, INTEREST RATES INCREASED and the interest on the debt will top 1,000,000,000,000, THIS YEAR, 2024!!!! This is really bad!!!
By metmike - Nov. 20, 2021, 9:27 p.m.
Thanks joj,
When the Fed raises interest rates, the interest of the astronomically high debt also goes up.
This was the projection a few years ago that did not anticipate this much of an increase in the interest rates.
"Net interest spending will grow faster than any other part of the budget. CBO estimates that interest costs will increase by 186 percent from 2018 to 2029 (220 percent under the Alternative Fiscal Scenario), while GDP will increase by 53 percent and consumer prices by 25 percent over that same period. Meanwhile, Social Security and federal health care programs – the two largest categories of spending in the federal budget – will grow by 89 percent and 96 percent, respectively, through 2029; discretionary spending will grow by 21 percent and revenue by 70 percent (38 percent and 59 percent under the Alternative Fiscal Scenario, respectively)."
"As the national debt continues to grow and interest rates on Treasury bills rise closer to their historical norms over the coming decade, the federal government’s interest payments are set to increase dramatically, taking up a larger and larger chunk of overall federal spending. Returning our debt trajectory to a sustainable course through a combination of spending reductions and revenue increases sooner rather than later would significantly alleviate this burden."
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My predictions for the next 10 yr financial cycle
Started by wglassfo - Oct. 19, 2021, 6:32 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/76441/
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600 for the people and pork
Started by wglassfo - Dec. 27, 2020, 11:42 a.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/63352/
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National debt
Started by mcfarm - July 19, 2020, 10:43 a.m.
metmike: Interest alone on the National Debt this year will exceed 1,000,000,000,000 for the first time. And continue higher in the future. This is already greatly hurting our economy. It won't be long before it crushes us!!
This is NOT sustainable.
Interest Costs on the National Debt
https://www.pgpf.org/programs-and-projects/fiscal-policy/monthly-interest-tracker-national-debt/
https://nypost.com/2025/06/11/us-news/donald-trump-responds-to-elon-musks-apology-after-public-feud/
In an X post on Saturday, Musk derided the bill as “utterly insane and destructive,” saying that the latest version from the Senate “will destroy millions of jobs in America and cause immense strategic harm to our country!”
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The US Dollar isn't experiencing its greatest/fastest drop in the first 6 months of a new administration for no reason! The rest of the world has lost confidence in our leadership and policies/agenda because of Donald Trump. This is NOT speculation.
US dollar getting crushed
Started by metmike - June 26, 2025, 10:26 p.m.