gee only been years and an investigation is finally launched into the mass of misdeeds of comey, clapper, brennan and company. Just think an entire list of felonys that had America wrapped up for years. Just a few national elections were affected...no big deal they say....what 3 or 4 states were decided by a handful of votes so what is the big deal the libs say over, over and over
Thanks, mcfarm!
While it's true that they lied and vilified Trump AFTER he won the 2016 election, in tandem with the extremely corrupt, 2.5 YEAR Mueller Witch hunt intended to mislead people into thinking that Trump only won because of Russian interference and that he colluded with Russia.......blatant lies.....it's not true that they impacted the actual results of any elections by putting their thumbs on the scale to a degree that made a difference.
Re: Re: Constitutional Crises Coming....
By metmike - Feb. 11, 2025, 11:31 a.m.
Despite Trump repeating, almost daily, even to this very day that the 2020 election was stolen from him and Fox News, being his mouth piece repeating that constantly, every objective, authentic source known to mankind proved that it was NOT stolen or the results substantively tinkered with on a scale that would have made a difference.
Instances of voter fraud?
You bet. Just like there always has been and always will be that plays an insignificant role in the final outcome. The 2020 election results passed more tests and more scrutiny than any other election in history by an extremely wide margin and thus, PROVED the results with more confidence than any other election that was anywhere near this close.
Anybody claiming otherwise is completely full of doo doo, especially President Trump and Fox News.
mcfarm,
I know where you are getting this stuff from because I have eyes and ears and go to some of the same sources you do to hear and understand all the viewpoints(not for them to TELL ME how to think) .
They are stealing your intelligence, man! They are using you by telling you what you want to hear for their ratings or political agenda.
Jan 6th again
14 responses |
Started by mcfarm - July 5, 2025, 7:14 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/112997/
one thing many libs are good at MM and that is cheating during elections. Real odd they will cheat in most every way including importing millions of dem voters who not only affected recent elections but because they are counted in the census they now affect every future election. Now if you want to pull the shade of over peoples eyes and say this is not cheating be my guest. But if dems can cheat this way, and they most certainly do, please don't sit and tell me they did not cheat during the several different hoaxes they pulled from Obama thru Hil right into the invisible but corrupt Biden. In fact one could document that those 3 started more crap the ones being investigated. But atleast this is a start.
mcfarm,
You are 100% correct on your assessment of illegal immigrants being counted in the next census and the huge advantages this will provide to the D party because the vast majority of them will live in D districts and the census will add reps for those districts.
Sanctuary cities exist to exploit this dynamic. All D strongholds that will gain representation in the next 2030 census. There is no doubt this is well understood by the D party and a clear tactic for intentionally gushing in as many illegal immigrants that they could.
when back in the office, I’ll post the evidence,proving this from previous threads.
Is this a form of election cheating?
Yes! A very clever, longer term strategy to increase the number of D representatives, not by cheating on Election Day but by cheating by boosting reps in D districts based on COUNTING ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS to determine the number of reps.
Maybe most people didn’t realize that our census taken every 10 years always counts ALL THE ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS. That number IS INCLUDED. ITS NOT just the legal citizens used to determine representation.
Here is some recent threads that contained the census counting for representation as part of the discussion.
Let'em In
Started by joj - Aug. 16, 2024, 11:26 a.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/106675/
Just a matter of time
Started by metmike - April 20, 2024, 9:49 a.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/103337/
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Southern Border
Started by metmike - Jan. 26, 2024, 11:57 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/101949/
By metmike - Feb. 24, 2024, 10:06 p.m.
By metmike - April 18, 2024, 6:24 a.m.
Huge ‘Mistake’ in 2020 Census Cost Republicans 3 Electoral Votes For Next 10 Years
12 responses |
Started by cutworm - Oct. 26, 2022, 9:17 a.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/90028/
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I stumbled on this thread that I made right after the 2020 election BEFORE all the challenges (every single one) were lost via the empirical evidence. Even though the made up stuff still keeps getting recirculated.
One reason to repost it is that this study was apparently shown to be bogus and taken down from many sites!
353 counties in 29 states with voter registration over 100%
Started by metmike - Nov. 9, 2020, 6:35 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/61031/
https://www.judicialwatch.org/new-jw-study-voter-registration/
Hey mc/others,
Per Lawrence O’Donnell, the reason for this supposed probe by the FBI into Brennan and Comey (I didn’t see Clapper listed…where did you see him, mc?) is to take the press’ focus off of Bondi and Trump suddenly dropping the Jeffrey Epstein files release that they had promised.
Hey mc, why are Bondi and Trump suddenly poopooing this release after earlier saying it would be released ASAP?!? Are they now hiding something? What’s the excuse this time?
Brennan was questioned for a whopping 8 hours+ by the Trump Justice dept. during the first Trump admin. and was never charged with a crime. Brennan yesterday said that nobody from the FBI, CIA, or Dept of Justice has yet to reach out to him regarding this supposed new investigation.
O’Donnell predicted yesterday that this new “utterly pointless investigation” will not result In anyone being charged with a crime. This is a leak to take away from the press’ focus from the dropping of releasing these Epstein files.
Ratcliffe tweeted that “All the world can now see the truth: Brennan, Comey, and Clapper manipulated intelligence and silenced career professionals- all to get Trump. Thank you to the career @CIA officers who conducted this review and exposed the facts.”
But not a word in Ratcliffe’s report shows any of what was in that tweet. Per O’Donnell, Ratcliffe’s “tweeting a big game to distract Trump fanatics.”
I smell lots of bollocks!
Thanks, Larry!
Regardless of some of those details, that we appreciate you adding, which are good to know.
Since this is coming from a guy that insists that D election fraud stole the 2020 election from him and even more absurdly, all the actions that he took to 100% cause the Insurrection that he intentionally schemed (as a last resort, after 2 months of failing) overturn his indisputably proven by every measure loss in November 2020.......nobody is going to take it serious except for Rs that, like him want retribution for things that happened years ago based entirely on politics.
It has almost no chance of helping the Rs gain anything they don't already have and a good chance of hurting them.
Same as investigating Biden.
Larry,
Excellent point on the Epstein files.
Just more misleading, confusion and chaos with no sensible explanations for it after they contradict everything they said previously.
More evidence that this administration and their spokespeople lack leadership that understands basic principles that would allow them to comprehend big picture dynamics for using to discern and apply smart decisions and good judgment.
They all just seem totally focused on doing things and saying things to make their boss, the omnipotent one look good without using the needed critical thinking that would pay the most authentic dividends and give people some confidence in their statements/decisions.
If the omnipotent want insists they all go down path A today, they all scurry and head that way and tell us path A is the road to,riches and dreams come true.
Not too long after that, when the omnipotent one takes us on a detour, away from path A, they all tell us why path A wasn’t really the best path and that the omnipotent one never really sent us on a wild goose chase down path A. We all just imagined it!
The way oMeanwhile, the omnipotent ones galaxy sized ego and pathological thinking keep getting positively reinforced and his mental illness, instead of getting treatment from professionals is fed jet fuel and steroids which has turned the most powerful man in the world into THE OMNIPOTENT ONE!
It’s
SUPERTRUMP!
Faster than the authentic facts and indisputable laws and principles.
More powerful than the US Constitution and court system!
Able to tell tall tales, make up crazy things and attack his enemies in a single conversation!
Glorified,by his MAGA cult and feared by party membeRs, SUPERTRUMP continues to defile truth, justice and America First!
crimes that make Watergate look like child's play according to Larry and Mm are not worth investigating. Well I guess that is the way the south American despots run things so why would the leftist in America choose any other way?
Larry you say where is Clapper mentioned and then give clappers name in a quote From Radcliff's original investigation they outed much this corruption.
MM, there is retribution and there is law. There is also a major difference between the two.
Thanks, mc.
1. Yeah, I know Clapper was mentioned in that tweet.
2. Can you explain why Bondi and Trump are suddenly poopooing the Jeffrey Epstein files release after earlier saying they would be released ASAP? Are they now hiding something? Doesn’t that seem weird/inconsistent?
The real Superman (fictional person):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iEzZqHLEjU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2l4bz1FT8U
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Adventures_of_Superman_episodes
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/The_Adventures_of_Superman
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Now introducing:
Faster than the authentic facts, indisputable laws and principles of mere mortals.
More powerful than the US Constitution and court system!
Able to tell tall tales, contradict himself and attack his enemies in a single conversation!
Look! Up in the White House! It's a man. It's a politician. No, it's SuperTrump!
Strange president from MAGA-land with powers and abilities far beyond those of previous mortal presidents.
SuperTrump!
Pretending to change the course of foreign wars. Earning the Nobel Peace prize by bombing and killing Arabs, participating in genocides and enabling diabolical psychopaths!
Able to put tariffs on steel with his mere words and embarrass himself and the United States with his lack of comprehension about global trade principles and humanity!
Glorified by his MAGA cult and feared most by party membeRs.
SuperTrump continues to fight a never ending battle to defile truth, justice and America First!
And now, more exiting episodes in the adventures of SuperTrump:
https://www.whitehouse.gov/fact-sheets/
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/112084/
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/113079/
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/112846/
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/112048/
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/112769/
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/110332/
An irate attorney general is said to have confronted the deputy director of the F.B.I. at a tense White House meeting earlier in the week
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/11/us/politics/jeffrey-epstein-pam-bondi-dan-bongino-clash.html
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EPSTEIN
Started by 12345 - June 4, 2023, 4:31 a.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/95882/
THIS WOMAN REALLY PUTS HER LIFE ON THE LINE!!
Started by 12345 - May 5, 2023, 6:49 a.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/94955/
Jeffrey Epstein's former pilot testifies
Started by metmike - Dec. 1, 2021, 12:42 a.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/78526/
Epstein corruption
38 responses |
Started by wglassfo - Aug. 17, 2019, 11:47 a.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/37051/
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I spent numerous hours investigating this with evidence in that last thread that leave me convinced that this could not have been a suicide.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/37051/#37156
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/37051/#37890
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/37051/#45629
The medical evidence of a very forceful break to his neck does NOT match up with how he supposedly committed suicide(with a bed sheet and leaning forward). Just coincidentally, the camera's going to his ward/cell all just happened to malfunction that night and/or accidentally the video was not saved.
Initially, the prison tried to substitute the video from another part of the prison to try to trick investigators into believing that nobody unauthorized entered Epstein's cell.
People only doctor evidence when they have something to hide!!!!!!!
He WAS killed based on some impossible to explain, very compelling evidence and critical thinking.
I don't care who says otherwise. That evidence can't be explained.
We can all speculate on why and why they still won't release everything but just have to assume that, like with many diabolical acts being covered up by the rich and powerful, we will NEVER know.
Again, I don't buy into conspiracy theories...........I BUST THEM.
When authentic facts and evidence strongly support something, it's NOT a conspiracy theory.
no Larry I have little info on the Epstein deal. I thought by now lots of info would of been released if it was possible without infringing on rules and rights. Seems a few got ahead of the pace of the case and over hyped to me but I am a lowly dirt farmer from middle America.
I forgot to add this previous thread, which probably explains why Trump doesn't want the Epstein files released.
I'm not suggesting that because President Trump flew aboard Epstein's private plane that anything nefarious took place, there is ZERO evidence to support that but its likely that SOME of the celebrities WERE participating in that part of his business.
However, nobody knows who did what with Epstein(the not released files might shed light into that) and when you don't know anything.............its the perfect environment for SPECULATION.
If Trump was innocent of any wrongdoing but DID fly with Epstein, his adversaries will pounce on that fact to SPECULATE and
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/78526/
Jeffrey Epstein
Started by metmike - Dec. 1, 2021, 12:42 a.m.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/30/us/ghislaine-maxwell-pilot/index.html
(CNN)Jeffrey Epstein's former pilot testified in Ghislaine Maxwell's sex trafficking trial Tuesday that a who's who of powerful men, including former Presidents Bill Clinton and Donald Trump, flew aboard Epstein's private plane.
The pilot, Larry Visoski, said he would typically be given notice if Clinton or high-profile passengers like him would be flying.
He recalled renowned violinist Itzhak Perlman flew to Michigan with Epstein for the Interlochen Center for the Arts summer camp. He said he remembered Prince Andrew, Maine Sen. George Mitchell, Ohio Sen. John Glenn and actor Kevin Spacey on flights.
He also said he'd fly Epstein to Columbus, Ohio, where Epstein also had property, to see billionaire businessman Les Wexner. Epstein referred to Wexner as his client but Visoski said he believed them to be friends as well.
looks like all the hopes of the tds may implode. Maxwell rumors are she will tell all including where, when, who and how, Finally some answers from someone that should know
Thanks, mcfarm for something I didn't know!
The former Jeffrey Epstein associate is currently serving a 20-year sentence
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1. If this isn't a ploy to make a deal with prosecutors to get out of prison early, then the earth is being destroyed by climate change
Surely this lady DOES know things but she's NOT a very reliable/objective source because of the self serving motivation driving this offer. Its uncertain why she didn't offer that information previously but the current fanfare, certainly is the main factor driving this offer that would very likely include her getting some of her sentence going away.
2. She would have no insider knowledge about who killed Jeffrey Epstein.
3. jeffrey Epstein's pilot already testified under oath who was on Epstein's plane when he flew Epstein's friends around. Not as good as a "clients" lists but we know who was on the plane and where they went. The pilot was a very credible source.
4. We can only speculate but since Donald Trump was on that place for sure, this is why he doesn't want the information released. His many adversaries could use it against him. I don't think that Trump was on the clients list but have no idea and my "don't think" is based on ZERO evidence and a wild guess, giving Trump the benefit of the doubt. However, Trump's resistance to releasing the information makes me even less confident in that GUESS.
Joseph Tirrell posted news of his termination on Monday.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/attorney-general-pam-bondi-fires-top-justice-department/story?id=123746598
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One thing that is most clear about this administration is that its employees and reps are sworn to Donald Trump and not the US Constitution. They will adore/support him and fulfill his wishes/agenda or get fired if Donald Trump has his way.
It's almost comical how people in this administration use Trump adoration verbiage when describing everything, when it's not even a key part of that particular dynamic.
TAS = Trump Adoration Syndrome
Many of the Rs in Congress are also afflicted with this mental condition. On the other side of the aisle, there is TDS but the TDS side has has plenty of LEGIT ammo to justify their positions in 2025, while the TAS side looks more like a a religion/cult and them having their intelligence stolen or acting out of fear/survival.
More evidence that President Trump is mentally ill AND GETTING WORSE!!!
We don’t know what’s in the Jeffrey Epstein files, but we now know it’s so bad for President Donald Trump that he’ll turn on his rabidly loyal MAGA base, mocking them as “stupid” and “weaklings,” to keep it hidden.
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President Trump lashed out Wednesday at “weaklings” and “past supporters” in his base who he said were buying in to the “Jeffrey Epstein Hoax,” raging that he doesn’t even “want their support anymore.”
“Unlike Republicans, they [Democrats] stick together like glue. Their new SCAM is what we will forever call the Jeffrey Epstein Hoax, and my PAST supporters have bought into this ‘bulls—,’ hook, line, and sinker,” Trump wrote on Truth Social.
“Let these weaklings continue forward and do the Democrats[‘] work, don’t even think about talking of our incredible and unprecedented success, because I don’t want their support anymore! Thank you for your attention to this matter. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!”
“They haven’t learned their lesson, and probably never will, even after being conned by the Lunatic Left for 8 long years,” Trump added on Truth Social Wednesday.
“I have had more success in 6 months than perhaps any President in our Country’s history, and all these people want to talk about, with strong prodding by the Fake News and the success starved Dems, is the Jeffrey Epstein Hoax.”
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We can all dream that enough Rs would get the gonads to join with Ds to IMPEACH this mentally ill and dangerous president.
However, things can and may get worse. He's only been in office for 6 months. His approval ratings are going to drop even more after this. There are half a dozen legit reasons to impeach Donald Trump. This isn't one of them.
Fox news coverage on this?
"Bernie Sanders is a communist"
"Barrack Obama is an idiot about men"
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jeffrey-epstein-autopsy-a-closer-look-60-minutes-2020-01-05/
Among the injuries found on Epstein during the autopsy are contusions on both wrists, an abrasion on his left forearm, and deep muscle hemorrhaging in his left shoulder muscle. Photos 60 Minutes reviewed also show an injury to the back of his neck, a cut on his lip, and an injection mark in his arm
Dr. Baden said small burst capillaries, known as petechiae, found on Epstein's face, mouth, and eyes are often an indication of strangulation. But it was injuries to Epstein's neck that make Dr. Baden call into question the official ruling of suicide.
Autopsy photos show fractures of the left and right thyroid cartilage, which sits at the front of the neck, and the left hyoid bone, a u-shaped bone that sits under the jaw and acts as an anchor for the tongue.
"I have never seen three fractures like this in a suicidal hanging," Dr. Baden tells Alfonsi on the broadcast. He added: "Going over a thousand jail hangings, suicides in the New York City state prisons over the past 40–50 years, no one had three fractures."
But photos of the noose taken in as evidence and presumably thought to be responsible for killing Epstein show both ends of the noose folded and hemmed, not cut. Sources have told 60 Minutes that the guard who found Epstein cut him down before trying to revive him.
"It doesn't look like anybody ever took scissors to it," Alfonsi said. "So there is some question—is that the right noose?'
Federal prosecutors have charged the two guards who were on duty on the overnight shift the morning Epstein was found. Michael Thomas, who alone found Epstein's body, and Tova Noel face charges of making false records, conspiring to make false records, and conspiring to defraud the United States. Both have pleaded not guilty.
