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Jeffrey Epstein
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Started by metmike - July 16, 2025, 9:34 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/113255/
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These were the last posts from today, 7-30-25 at the previous thread, including the last one that triggered the block:
By cutworm - July 30, 2025, 9:04 a.m.
One thing I do not understand, didn't the Biden admiration have all this evidence, and they hated Trump, why didn't they release the info?
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By metmike - July 30, 2025, 10 a.m.
Hi cutworm!
Bill Clinton was also a serial predator of women and obviously underage girls. The Clinton's have great power being used to suppress this information. There are other names that we don't know about that likely include people from both parties that are keeping us from knowing who they are.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Jeffrey Epstein
By metmike - July 26, 2025, 11:12 p.m.
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Apparently, Clinton made numerous visits to Epstein Island.
After Trump and Epstein broke up in 2004, Trump continued to prey on women and underage girls for another decade, INDEPENDENT OF EPSTEIN........even as Epstein's exploits/crimes became public knowledge.
Trump has, so far not been held accountable. Nor Clinton or the many other rich and powerful predators of women and underage girls. The same ones that killed Epstein to protect themselves and possibly played a role in the SUDDEN deaths of 3 of the victims the past several years to keep them quiet.
I can't say much on those deaths without much more information, like I/we have on Trump(and Epstein).
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Jeffrey Epstein
By metmike - July 30, 2025, 2:39 p.m.
FINALLY, this is waking up the MSM(not Fox) to do some critical thinking and investigative reporting!
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jeffrey-epstein-jail-video-investigation/
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I had mentioned several of these items that don't make sense years ago and continue to insist that the prison and government, now clearly busted with several lies/inconsistencies with the video is covering up the truth. Failed camera's, spliced video's, the missing minute and guards that slept much of the night are things I brought up in the past. That goes with removing Epstein's cellmate the day before, after taking him OFF suicide watch.
What are the chances of all those things happening coincidentally, the same night that Jeffrey Epstein hangs himself.
Then, experts reviewing the autopsy tell us that its indicative of a strangulation because of the damage and not the hanging of himself from leaning forward, using a bed-sheet that the government claims caused it.......like 1 in a million??
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CBS News analysis of the newly released Jeffrey Epstein jail video finds inconsistencies with the government's claims about what the footage shows, raising questions about the credibility of the federal investigation. CBS News Justice correspondent Scott MacFarlane breaks down the findings. The FBI declined to comment on the CBS News report.
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There's a 99.9% chance that Epstein was killed by the same rich and powerful people that victimized these women/girls. Trump and Clinton FOR SURE victimized these young women/girls based on overwhelming, beyond reasonable doubt, LEGAL CIRCUMSTANTIAL Evidence. Prince Andrew is also 1 of them with certainty!
NEW YORK (AP) — A woman who says she was sexually trafficked to Britain’s Prince Andrew by Jeffrey Epstein accepted $500,000 in 2009 to settle her lawsuit against the American millionaire and anyone else “who could have been included as a potential defendant,” according to a court record unsealed Monday.
The prince’s lawyers say that language should bar Virginia Giuffre from suing Andrew now, even though he wasn’t a party to the original settlement.
The private 2009 legal deal resolved Giuffre’s allegations that Epstein had hired her as a teenager to be a sexual servant at his estate in Palm Beach, Florida.
Andrew was not named in that lawsuit, but Giuffre had alleged in it that Epstein had flown her around the world for sexual encounters with numerous men “including royalty, politicians, academicians, businessmen and/or professional and personal acquaintances.”
WATCH: How prosecutors proved Ghislaine Maxwell was Epstein’s ‘enabler-in-chief’
The settlement unsealed Monday also doesn’t mention Andrew, but contains a single paragraph saying it protects anyone “who could have been included as a potential defendant” from being sued by Giuffre.
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What is especially interesting is that Trump, yesterday claimed that this was one of the employees that Epstein stole from him that caused their best friendship to break up.
Virginian Giuffre is now DEAD. She suddenly died by suicide just 3 months ago.
2 other victims also suddenly died in the last several years.
Virginia Giuffre was 41 when she died in Neergabby, Australia
Thursday 01 May 2025 16:28 EDT
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While I am certain, well beyond a reasonable doubt that Donald Trump was a CRIMINAL predator of countless women, including underage girls associated with his Epstein relationship as well as independent of Epstein, what I would like to know is if he has played a key role in killing people, like Jeffrey Epstein and possibly the 3 victims?
Somebody killed Epstein and probably some of the victims. For sure it was one or more of the rich powerful people. It's unlikely that we will never know that part of it but if this can generate new found courage for these victims to break their HUSH MONEY agreements and threats(clearly legit based on who they already killed) and come forward to speak out then, at least we can hold some of them accountable, including those mentioned above.
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By metmike - July 30, 2025, 3:42 p.m.
Democrats invoke rare Senate rule to force release of Epstein documents
https://www.axios.com/2025/07/30/democrats-epstein-documents-trump-justice-department
By the numbers: According to a YouGov poll released Tuesday, 82% of Americans think the government should release all the documents it has about the case.
What we're watching: The senators requested an answer from the DOJ by Aug. 15.
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This is what I think will happen:
1. Trump will authorize his people to release alot of stuff that doesn't implicate him or mention him. Some of it is likely to be edited to REMOVE HIM.
2. Maxwell will lie under oath to get the get out of prison early deal that Trump promised her.
What is the reasoning?
1. Trump MUST start releasing a bunch of stuff ASAP to try stop the serious bleeding. There is no choice.
2. What are the chances that President Trump or his people would release information that incriminates him?
Answer: 0.0001%
3. What are the chances that Trump's private attorney and #2 in power in our justice department (after Pam Bondi) met with Maxwell and her attorney for 2 days, was there with an objective different than to help fulfill Trumps latest schemes for escaping being held accountable for his crimes against women/girls.
Anwer: 0.001%
4. This is the same man that still insists to this very day that the 2020 election was stolen from him. He did everything in his power to try to overturn that election for 2+ months to make himself the winner, culminating in Donald Trump's treasonous, Constitution violating and American people betraying Insurrection on January 6, 2021.
5. He managed to survive that and come back to be president, so never count him out. Ironically, his MAGA people may have been ok with #4 but being a predator of underage girls is considered the bottom dredge of society so that even hardened criminals will spit on you for it!
https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/30/politics/skepticism-trump-epstein-concessions
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Exactly my point/last comment at the previous thread. Trump will release all sorts of stuff that doesn't implicate his involvement. Knowing him, he will release stuff with him in it but only after his people remove him and present this as the original version.
Hopefully, this will be vehemently rejected by all the clear thinking, ethical people in this country that want the truth.What would be best is if this incentivizes numerous victims to come forward that are being paid with hush money and having their lives threatened.
It would take alot of courage. I continue to feel overwhelming sadness for them and the suffering they went thru by these CREEPS at the time of the abuse and the psychological pain that continues today.
This is much more than just protecting criminal predators like Donald J. Trump because he has the same political affiliation.
He and many sick men criminally abused many hundreds or more, real human beings to satisfy their pathological sexual desires using their money and power. We should think of and pray for these many victims and especially support them strongly if/when they come out.
This is the quintessential difference between right and wrong. Even if the Ds are the ones tightening the screws because of politics. In this case, they have the franchise on the moral high ground and also are doing the right thing, even if its coincidental to their party affiliation.
A timeline of what Trump has said about how their relationship fell apart.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trumps-comments-epstein-raise-new-questions-fell/story?id=124211483
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The truth is NOT setting this guy free as his lies pile up higher and higher because he KNOWS that hes guilty. His pathological thinking is unable to comprehend people's ability to see clearly thru his perceived omnipotence. So he conjures up and repeats statements that don't make any sense and it keeps digging his hole deeper..
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A timeline of what Trump has said about how their relationship fell apart.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trumps-comments-epstein-raise-new-questions-fell/story?id=124211483
One of those workers, Trump said, was Virginia Giuffre, an Epstein accuser who said she was recruited by his associate, Ghislaine Maxwell, when Giuffre was an underage teenager working as a locker-room attendant at Mar-a-Lago in 2000. Maxwell, convicted of sex trafficking minors and now serving a 20-year prison sentence, has denied the allegations. Giuffre died by suicide this past April at age 41.
According to Social Security records submitted to the court during Giuffre’s defamation case against Ghislaine Maxwell, Giuffre was employed at Mar-a-Lago Club LLC in 2000 and earned $1,866.50 during that calendar year. The duration and precise dates of her employment at Trump’s club remained in dispute when the lawsuit settled in 2017.
Giuffre -- then known as Virginia Roberts -- subsequently went on to travel extensively around the world with Epstein and Maxwell over the next two years, according to flight logs kept by one of Epstein’s pilots that have been entered into court records in civil and criminal cases.
But previous comments from Trump suggested his falling out with Epstein occurred several years later than that.
In 2002, Trump praised Epstein in a New York magazine profile of the now-deceased financier and convicted sex offender.
"I've known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy," Trump told the magazine. "He's a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it -- Jeffrey enjoys his social life."
Then in 2004, the two men were rivals over a property in Florida as reported by the Washington Post. Trump ultimately won the property at auction.
In 2019, when Epstein was arrested on federal charges, Trump said he hadn't spoken with Epstein in 15 years.
"I knew him like everybody in Palm Beach knew him. I mean, people in Palm Beach knew him. He was a fixture in Palm Beach," Trump said in the Oval Office. "I had a falling out with him a long time ago. I don't think I've spoken to him for 15 years. I wasn't a fan. I was not, yeah, a long time ago, I'd say maybe 15 years. I was not a fan of his, that I can tell you. I was not a fan of his."
So he GAVE UP Virginia 4 years before the falling out with Epstein, KNOWING what she was being used for by Epstein(who he described as a "Terrific guy" that "likes beautiful women as much as I do and many of them are on the younger side" 2 years AFTER he gave her (or as Trump claims "poached her") to Epstein.
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More disingenuous posturing, with Trump's people pretending that they are being transparent and releasing important stuff during this HUGE cover up to protect the Predator in Chief.
We already know most of if not everything that might be released from this EXTREMELY LIMITED information source.
Trump and his people will NEVER release what we all want to see. They will NEVER release any information that has Trump's potential criminality in it.
Trump claims that this is all a D hoax.
We need some of the hundreds of victims of his and the other sex predators, now being quiet out of fear and hush money to come out of hiding and speak out.
As tough as this would be, this is a good environment to incentivize them to find new found courage.
Trump has been portraying himself as the victim. He was even, supposedly a victim of Epstein's because of all things, Epstein STOLE/POACHED an underage girl of his, like he owned her.
Not one time has he ever expressed an iota of empathy for these horribly victimized women(underage girls). It's all about him.
That's because a predator does not have empathy for their victims.
Not when victimizing them and apparently in Trump's case not years later.
Trump today, just sees them as a risk to eliminate at any cost. Somebody(s) in his predators club killed Epstein and nobody mourns for the leader of the predators. However, 3 victims have also died suddenly in recent years and ALL OF THEM- hundreds are suffering from the psychological pain and fear for their lives today.
One can look at this the opposite way too.
Seeing Trump controlling the entire process may make it seem ever more futile for them to come forward, along with their legit fear of being killed.
So who(s) killed Epstein?
Even MAGA still wants to know that even though they're circling the wagons and are now defending Trump, ignoring all the facts coming out.
Chance of us ever knowing? Near 0, unless something crazy like dozens of victims came out all at once and fingered most of the serial predators.
Covering up for the serial, criminal predator in the White House!
Trump and his administration keep insisting they are transparent and trying to release as much as possible of the Epstein files.
They released the MLK files!
They released the JFK files!
They could release the Epstein files tomorrow if they wanted!
As they promised!
1 big problem. They got the files earlier this year (May?) and realized, oh, oh! there's some bad stuff in there about President Trump.
While Trump, earlier this month had been calling all of it a "hoax by the democrats!"
Here's the real hoax:
Trump pretending that he wants information released. Instead of releasing the Epstein files as they promised, Trump asked for the information from a grand jury be released...........as if that is actually something.
IF a judge rules in his favor, all we get is basic information from 2 cops asking for a judge to approve the case to go to trial. Almost nothing, even if its approved.
A good analogy would be if we wanted to solve a 500 piece puzzle but only had 2 pieces.
Then Trump's people tell us that they will give us all the pieces of the puzzle so that we can solve it if we elect them. A few months go by after they take office.
Then they get all those pieces, but instead of passing all 500 pieces on to us as promised, they give us all 500 pieces to 2 other puzzles.
With the 500 piece puzzle that we are most interested in solving, they make a request to get 2 pieces from a judge................the same 2 pieces we already have. HUGH????
What about the other 498 pieces that they have in their possession right now!
The Epstein files! They have them but now, they won't release them because they are protecting a serial predator in the White House and other rich and powerful predators that got away with these crimes.
so you think we got all the mlk and jfk files? Silly boy. We most certainly will never see all the files. Many reasons. The deep state, the deep state. the deep state is the main one. You really mlk and jfk had all the predilections they had and never crossed a line they should not have ? Of all the sorted and soiled stuff in their files there is stuff that never will be seen. And sadly its starting to look like the Epstein case is headed that way. Only for some odd reason America is giving mlk and jfk a complete pass on t heir dark side and celebrating like hero's.
Got many many bad things in my memory of Ted kennedy but one bright spot was his eulogy of jfk. Do not know who wrote or who he stole it from but he did say do not make jfk larger in death than he was in life but America turned and did t anyway didn't we.
Family of Epstein accuser Virginia Giuffre wants files released
https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/31/us/video/kaitlan-collins-virginia-giuffre-family-interview-src-digvid
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I hope we can get the entire interview shortly. Profoundly powerful. I wept several times for the victims.
This provided faces, actually human beings to the story, instead of the politics that, especially 1 side is using to completely disrespect the victims and violate them all over again.
They know that Donald Trump is one of the rich and powerful men that played a role in violating these women and now he's the king pin of the group, covering it up by refusing to release the files because of his guilt and pretending to be transparent.
Treating the victims like pawns and not human beings. Earlier this week, Trump referring to a victim, their sister like she was his property that was "stolen and poached" from him.
One of the family members, identified Mara-La-go and Donald Trump as being the starting point of when Virginia Giuffre was victimized, which is what the evidence/facts suggest too. All 4 family members strongly want these files to be released. Trump could release them right now IF HE WANTED.
More than anything they do NOT want a deal cut for Maxwell who has lied many times before and will lie again to get a better deal from Trump.
Of the many predators, that so far have all escaped any accountability, the 2 that we have the most powerful LEGALLY significant circumstantial evidence of them playing key roles in these crimes are Donald Trump and Bill Clinton.
Maybe this will open the door for victims, that understandably fear for their lives, to find the courage to speak out and identify some of these serial, criminal predators.
We should strongly support them and even if they remain too fearful for us to ever know who they are, pray for them and continue to seek justice for them.
Testifying at Maxwell’s trial in New York City, the woman, identified by the pseudonym Jane, said she met the former president in the 1990s at his Mar-a-Lago resort.
Dec. 1, 2021, 1:23 PM CST / Updated Dec. 1, 2021, 7:15 PM CST
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Jane was one of two victims from Florida to take the stand. The other, Carolyn Andriano, 36, of Wellington was found dead a year after Maxwell's sentencing from an accidental drug overdose in a West Palm Beach hotel room. At least one juror said he found her testimony so compelling that it helped lead the group to a guilty verdict.
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These women must be justifiably petrified that these rich and powerful men will kill them if they speak out!! 3 of them that spoke out have died already, in addition to Epstein. Since we don't even know the names of all these victims, there's a pretty good chance that others have also died.
They were teenagers at the time, with a life expectancy of at least 60 more years!
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Donald Trump will NEVER release information that points to his involvement. The only chance is to hold him accountable is if actual victims speaking out.......but they have been too afraid for their lives.
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This article is more than 8 years old
Sat 5 Nov 2016 09.33 EDT
The woman, who had filed suit earlier this year under the pseudonym Jane Doe, had alleged that Trump and billionaire Jeffrey Epstein had raped her in 1994, when she was a 13-year-old aspiring model.
This week she abruptly canceled a plan to speak publicly about the allegations, and another attorney, Lisa Bloom, cited “numerous threats” against her client.
“She has been here all day, ready to do it, but unfortunately she is in terrible fear,” Bloom said on Wednesday. Bloom’s mother, Gloria Allred, is an attorney representing several women who have accused Trump of sexual misconduct.
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This was BEFORE Epstein was arrested and charged!
Josh Russell / September 30, 2016
https://www.courthousenews.com/rape-allegations-refiled-against-trump/
Tiffany Doe claims she convinced the then-13-year-old plaintiff to attend the parties as a means to break in to New York's professional modeling world. In her declaration, Tiffany Doe says she witnessed four sexual encounters in which Jane Doe was forced to have sex with Trump, and two encounters involving the plaintiff and Jeffrey Epstein.
The Tiffany Doe declaration included Epstein's threats against her and her family for disclosing the details of any sexual abuse of minors by Epstein and his party guests, swearing under penalty of perjury that she understands that her and her family's lives are "now in grave danger."
The new complaint includes an additional witness exhibit from an anonymous "Joan Doe" whose sworn declaration says Jane Doe told her what happened with Trump and Epstein during the 1994-1995 school year.
The sudden transfer comes a week after Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche — the DOJ’s second-in-command and formerly President Trump’s defense lawyer — huddled all day with the disgraced British socialite and her lawyer at the US Attorney’s Office in Tallahassee.
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Maxwell is already getting something from Trump in advance for her to lie about Donald Trumps criminal behavior as a serial predator of women that sometimes included underage girls.
Chances that Trump will intentionally release any of the information that implicates his guilt?
0.0001%
However, because he often has horrible judgment, along with his impulsive, pathological thinking/reasoning, he frequently UNINTENTIONALLY implicates himself with what he thinks is a plan that exonerates him.
For Pete's sake, this is the most powerful man in the world that I'm describing with an accurate, objective analysis. Much of his decision making about everything is suspect because of his mental illness thats independent of his crimes as a serial predator.
Chances that Trump will distort/manipulate/censor/block/ban/black out/redact/twist and lie to cover his crimes?
100.000%.
Just another reminder. I voted for Donald J Trump in November 2024 because I believed him about ending the Ukraine war, which has caused 1.5 million casualties and also in November 2016. In 2020, they both were so bad that I drove to the parking lot to vote, sat in my car for 20 minutes and couldn't go in to vote because I could never find a reason to vote for Biden or Trump with numerous reasons to NOT vote for both of them.
“President Trump has sent a clear message today: Pedophiles deserve preferential treatment and their victims do not matter,” the statement said, noting that the two women and Giuffre’s family had not been notified of Maxwell’s transfer before media reports of it.
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This is the same guy that pardoned all the violent felons convicted of crimes during HIS Insurrection/attempt to overturn the results of the 2020 election! What did we think would happen?
He also hired 21 Fox news personalities to replay them for being his cheerleaders/high priests in his cult that helped elect him.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/21-fox-news-personalities-contributors-221718333.html
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And this guy said he would drain THE swamp?
He drained that swamp and filled it back up with his own, even worse swamp creatures that swear allegiance to the almighty/omnipotent Donald J. Trump.
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-murdoch-epstein-lawsuit-wall-street-journal-letter-2108955
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Of course he did!
Filing the lawsuit was just another extraordinarily dumb, delusional act by the president based on his perception that he's omnipotent and has the power to control the world.........including the WSJ that posted an authentic letter that HE sent to Jeffrey Epstein on his birthday in 2004, when Trump claims they had broken up years earlier because Epstein was stealing/poaching his employees for his under age, human trafficking sex business.
The timelines given to us by Trump are blatant lies, as well as the majority of facts because this predator(sometimes of under age girls) is trying to cover for himself.
Lawrence O’Donnell of MSNBC predicted Trump would drop this stupid lawsuit almost 2 weeks ago. The reason he gave is that Trump would in no way want this stuff to be even more out in the open. And Trump wouldn’t want to lie under oath. And Trump said they lied about them being friends? I know Trump supposedly doesn’t use illegal drugs (something I actually like about him), but is he on crack? More likely he knows they were very good friends and he was just bluffing. Lawrence will probably tell us tonight that he didn’t change his mind and that he never wanted to go through with this silliness.
Thanks, Larry.
Instead of being on drugs, Trump is mentally ill. I've been insisting on this many dozens of times the last year but mean it in the clinically significant, psychiatric mental health science diagnosis sense.
His pathological mentality features a delusions of grandeur thinking that has been fed with the most power of any other human on earth and MAGA cheerleaders.
The uncertainty here is how much of his behavior is completely delusional and how much of it is diabolical with intent.
For instance, I speculate that he really believes that that 2020 election was stolen from him.
I strongly believe that he knows HE caused the Insurrection and it was very intentional based on a well thought out plan. After it happened, he called it a beautiful day, then pardoned all the criminals because they did it for him. These were all intentional and based on schemes that he rationalized because he thought the 2020 election was stolen from him.
On the facts regarding Epstein............he knows what he did to these women. He might be in denial or in his warped mind, justify being a criminal pedophile because he's omnipotent and other people are here to serve him (including under age girls-seriously, he believes that part)
The fact that he keeps changing the stories about his relationship with Epstein is because his devious mind thinks of what he thinks is a better story to cover himself is clear evidence of intent.
A delusional person usually has 1 version that they cling to. He is such a pathological liar that it defines everything about him, including how he describes everything so its impossible to know when he's scheming and when he's actually delusional.
Does he really believe the person that delivered the bad employment stats last week was out to get him because Biden hired her and doctored the data for political agenda? That's plausible.
Does he really believe all the stuff he says about Canada? Or the loony tunes things related to his tariffs? Is this delusional? Scheming? Or just complete incompetence and ignorance about the principles of trading between countries?
I would say that its all the above..............and this is our president.
Go figure!
If he talks like a serial pedophile………complimenting Epstein for their shared appreciation of women……with Epstein liking them young in 2002.
If he draws like a serial pedophile…….naked female to his pedophile pal on his birthday in 2004. How many men in their 50's do you know that draw pictures like this for their best males friends birthday???
Teenagers, yes. Very powerful, rich men and future president's? Not unless they shared the "secret" that Trump referred to in the letter.
If he lies like a criminal predator about all the facts.
If he pays hush money to females to cover up sex with them……like a criminal predator.
If he’s been accused of sex crimes by numerous women and girls like a serial criminal predator.
Then we can be pretty sure that............. he’s a criminal predator and pedophile!
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Even if he’s delusional and thinks these women were his toys to serve his needs and paid them for it and he did nothing wrong ……..that defines the mindset of most pedophiles.
This is exactly how Epstein thought and acted. This was the biggest bond between Jeffrey Epstein and Donald Trump over their 15 year best friendship.
One of them was a convicted felon, disgraced and hated for his diabolical crimes, preying on under aged girls.....now dead to keep him quiet.
The other one is the most powerful man in the world.
Along with all the other rich and powerful pedophiles that preyed on these girls for 2 decades that are enjoying their riches and power to move freely in society WITH ZERO CONSEQUENCES.
How sad for all the victims.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11018081/
The dark triad of personality is a constellation of traits characterized by a willingness to exploit and manipulate others, callousness, disagreeableness, deceitfulness, egocentrism, lack of honesty and humility, empathy deficits and a focus on agentic goals (Paulhus & Williams, 2002). Such traits have been previously associated with sexual coercion (Pavlović, Markotić, & Bartolin, 2019; Zeigler-Hill, Besser, Morag, & Keith Campbell, 2016) and consist of Machiavellianism (proclivity to exploit others), narcissism (malevolent behavior associated with a grandiose identity) and psychopathy (Paulhus & Williams, 2002). Psychopathy is characterized as a form of personality disorder with a distinctive pattern of interpersonal (e.g. deceitfulness and manipulation), affective (e.g. lack of remorse, lack of empathy or guilt) and behavioral (e.g. irresponsibility and impulsivity) characteristics (Hare & Neumann, 2008).
Trump as narcissistic, Machiavellian, and high in psychopathy.
Posted August 6, 2016
Three core personality trait dimensions that underlie the Dark Triad are:
Does Donald Trump demonstrate the features of the Dark Triad? Based on my expert opinion, having published extensively in this area of psychology, I think the answer is this: Absolutely and unequivocally.
The Trump administration is considering releasing transcripts of the interview.
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At this rate, by the end of the year, Trump will be insisting that he never met Epstein and all the pictures of the 2 together are fake pictures to try to frame him
Trump keeps digging his hole deeper and deeper on this topic.
An innocent person would never go to this extreme to cover up something they didn't do.
Trying to legitimize and reward/bribe this person for lying is actually a crime but hey, its much better than being a serial, criminal sexual predator, sometimes with under age girls.
Delusional President Trump thinks that everything that he does is brilliant. He has no clue that this is convincing us EVEN MORE that he is one of the rich and powerful people being protected by their strong arm tactics that include KILLING PEOPLE TO KEEP THEM QUIET.
At last count, besides Epstein, there's reason to believe at least 3 of the victims were killed.
Since we have almost none of the victims names, (some say over 100) how would we even know when they get killed??? We wouldn't.
The question for me, is not whether Trump is guilty of the sex crimes (he is) and he is likely paying hush money for them to be quiet but whether the most powerful man in the world right now, who ABUSES his power every day..............has and is abusing his power and money to silence these victims?
Who was the person/people that killed Epstein to keep him quiet?
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Trump has an impossible situation.
He's IN the Epstein files. Regardless of what IN means, he was a serial predator of women, sometimes under aged for 2+ decades. Sometimes with Epstein, sometimes not with Epstein.
He is trying to use a horrific, lying person convicted, with Epstein of sex crimes against hundreds of under aged girls to testify on his behalf.
This is a backfire if/when Eptein files information is released because it will highlight her horrific, key role and lies.
And his lies about everything continue to pile up with almost no truths.
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If Joe Rogan is truly an objective, honest guy that cares about justice, instead of HELPING Trump get out of the jam he put himself in by being a criminal predator for 2 decades, he will hold Donald Trump accountable.
Donald Trump 2002: "I’ve known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy. He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side."
Donald Trump 2004: Birthday letter to Epstein with naked woman and mention of their "secret" that the Wall Street Journal published the contents of(not the actual image) Trump sues for $10 billion dollars.........then drops the lawsuit.
Donald Trump, July 2025: I cut off ties with Jeffrey Epstein in 2000 because he was stealing/poaching my employees including the most famous victim that suddenly died in April.
Joe Rogan can't save Donald Trump's sinking Epstein-gate ship. Neither can a lying and bribed convicted under age sex ring leader. The fact that Trumps personal lawyer and Deputy assistant of the US attorney general is reaching out to this source for damage control is a CRYSTAL CLEAR INDICATOR OF BLATANT GUILT.
Innocent people USE THE TRUTH to vindicate themselves and prove innocence. This has been the most ANTI Truth, massive cover up (that has been defined by schemes to protect a president) in history.
This makes the Watergate cover up look like somebody lying to try to get out of a parking violation.
I spent dozens of hours investigating this last month.
Donald Trump IS GUILTY of having sex with underage girls. When he was WITH Jeffrey Epstein(their biggest common bond in the best friendship) and when he WASN'T WITH Jeffrey Epstein.
The media knows this and they smell blood. No chance that Trump can make this go away because HE IS GUILTY and has been caught in lie after lie.
The question, really is how Rs in Congress treat this down the road. Will they do the right thing and impeach him and gain respect? Or will they do the political thing again and continue to protect him in the latest pathological situation? and subject themselves to blow back from some of their own supporters for protecting the predator in the White House? Risking going down with a sinking SS Trump ship?
Tough choice for the Rs in Congress. We know where the Ds and media stand(outside of Fox thats pretending this doesn't exist).
Or could this finally fade away and be like the Insurrection and Trumps attempts to overturn the results of the most tested for being valid election in history.
What's worse?
1. Being a traitor, betraying the US Constitution and American people with his criminal Insurrection and attempts to overturn the 2020 election???
2. Or being a serial, criminal sex predator for 2 decades, that included under age victims?
He bounced back from #1 and got back into the White House (partly thanks to Biden being SOO bad). Will MAGA forgive him or pretend that #2 didn't happen too? The Rs in office will react according to how THEY THINK their base will respond because they want to stay in power/office.
Damn MM . Post after post guilty, guilty, guilty. This seems eerily familiar to around 2016 a couple lib news out fits were fitted for a Pulitzer price. What happened following has been largely ignored, especially by these same 2 outlets. Some day you will be right or wrong and I want you to behave far differently than those 2 award winning news outlets that to this day have yet to admit just how dead wrong they were about guilt and innocence. That and a couple fake impeachment nearly ended this republic and the truth will out it all.
The libs have a way of doing business. elections do not matter to them. They have instituted the bureaucracy so corrupt and so deep that is what runs the show and that is what they live for. Big gov. Hell with the people because if the people do happen to vote another way the libs then start a war of hell to pay for the public. Their very policies inflect pain on top of pain to being the public to heel. And Trump is interrupting that game and they are pissed. Sorry to alert you but they will not prevail, And the subpoenas going out the door right now to the leaders of the war on Joe Public prove their time is nearly over.
Post after post guilty, guilty, guilty. This seems eerily familiar to around 2016 a couple lib news out fits were fitted for a Pulitzer price.
Thanks, mcfarm!
Not from me its not a familiar attack on President Trump.
I vehemently defended Trump from 2016 on, until this day regarding that Witch Hunt because he was crystal clearly innocent then:
Re: Re: more actual evidence of The Hoax
By metmike - July 19, 2025, 3:11 p.m.
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However, Donald Trump is guilty as sin here. I even took the opposite side-that he is innocent and tested that hypothesis (sincerely practicing the scientific method) . Every single time, with no exceptions, all the facts contradicted that position.
I don't WANT him to be guilty, mcfarm but he is.
in my humble opinion you most definitely hope and pray he is guilty and have convicted him guilty many many times right here....enough said until we find out about your forth coming apology and retraction to several posts or when I admit he sure fooled me because I do not believe it as of this day.
Thanks much, mcfarm,
As I mentioned previously, based on the extraordinarily compelling circumstantial evidence Donald Trump IS guilty.
And how do you think that he will be held accountable or proven guilty when he and the R majority Congress control the information flow?
They will NEVER release information that shows he's guilty. His people already deleted his name on all of the information we will get. He completely controls the attorney generals office.
They are bringing in a dozen people to testify under oath, including Bill Clinton but guess who's name is missing?
Donald Trump.
Jeffrey Epstein's best friend for 15 years. The guy that Jeffrey picked up women with. The guy that complimented Epstein in 2002, specifically because they both shared an appreciation for women, noting that Jeff likes them on the young side. The guy that wrote a birthday letter to Epstein in 2004 with a naked women on it and mentioned "their secret"
The guy that has been lying his arse off about every single thing related to this the past month, claiming he broke it off with Epstein for stealing/poaching his girls, which happened in 2000. The facts prove his lies and he continued to be Epstein's close friend for 4 more years after that.
He scared off and paid off a believable victim in 2016, (who disappeared and the charges dropped)that insisted he and Epstein raped her when she was a young girl. She had some credible details. I believe her and hope she's still alive and comes forward again with other petrified victims.
Do you think that NOBODY was involved with Epstein and Maxwell and its all made up?
There is many, MANY times more evidence that Donald Trump was one of the rich and powerful predators that had sex with these under age girls than anybody else.
He's setting Maxwell up to lie under oath for him to get her sweet deal. Trump's attorney has already stated that Maxwell claims that she never saw Trump do anything wrong. OMG!
We are supposed to believe that Trump and Epstein hung out as best friends for 15 years(picking up women together) and Epstein, the worlds most famous pedophile would have frequent sex with under age women but he always waited for his best friend, Donald Trump who complimented Epstein for being this way in 2002 and 2004 to go somewhere else so Trump would never know about it?????
That is delusional denial.
He will NEVER be found guilty even though ALL the facts point to him. mcfarm!
Those facts above and more proof can never go away. They happened already. Trump can lie all he wants, get others to lie, censor information that shows he was part of it, use hush money and threats to victims all he wants but the facts are the facts.
There is not a shred of doubt in my objective mind that he IS guilty. I don't let my personal opinions about people define how to interpret facts. You should know that from me going to bat for Trump countless times. I understand that you find it hard to comprehend and believe somebody being like this but I'll demonstrate it below with more proof/ examples for you.
Read the posts from me about the Trump rape charges. I spent a great deal of time following that and believe strongly that Trump was likely innocent of the charges. Not for sure innocent but the prosecution completely faile do prove their case and the entire trial was a sham against Trump. Read the thread to see my reasoning. I still insist that Trump should have been found innocent of those charges.. That lady was NOT credible at all to me and the prosecution and judge were both extremely biased.
Based on Trump's past behavior as a predator, I would think he COULD HAVE done this. But the facts DID NOT support his guilt in that case.
Epstein-gate is so, so different because all the circumstantial evidence shows Trump was one of these rich and powerful men.
Trump civil fraud trial-nonsense
Started by metmike - Nov. 12, 2023, 2:43 a.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/100509/
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Get Trump-Hush Money Hullabaloo
Started by metmike - April 17, 2024, 4:57 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/103255/
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Trump rape case
Started by metmike - May 3, 2023, 9:33 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/94926/
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On this particular topic, my first few posts on the original thread were giving Trump the innocent, benefit of the doubt.
But the overwhelming facts led this objective scientist to the only logical conclusion.
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"until we find out about your forth coming apology and retraction"
mcfarm, there will be no retraction of the rock solid, proven facts stated here. They define the truth. I get why you and MAGA don't want to believe the truth.
I have no doubt that your mind can believe that Bill Clinton did this because he's a D. You will NEVER believe that Trump did it because Trump and the Rs control the information and are in fact, manipulating it to mislead people.
There will never be a trial of Donald Trump. He is the main gatekeeper of information and he will never allow information that shows his guiltto be released. This means that you will always believe he is innocent because you believe he's innocent now after I proved his guilt beyond a reasonable doubt with the compelling circumstantial evidence in the previous thread. ............where somebody apparently hacked MarketForum so that the moderator can no longer access that thread.
It's pointless to have a debate with you on this because you will never believe that he is guilty.
Me? I already changed my mind! Adjusted it to line up with the powerful facts that define this case and can never go away. From originally and still believing he was INNOCENT in the NY rape case above and giving him the benefit of innocence doubt to start in Epstein-gate.
Hey mc,
1. I really don’t think MM wants Trump to be guilty. I think he hates realizing that our President has done these terrible things but he doesn’t hate him. He almost definitely wishes this is just a bad nightmare and that he really didn’t do these things. He’s defended him regarding Mueller and other things.
2. This being said, he’s technically still not been proven guilty as even MM realizes. MM is saying that based on circ. evidence that there’s no way he’s not guilty. I fully understand where he’s coming from based on Trump’s recent actions/comments. If I had to guess, I’d say he’s guilty. But the way our system of Justice works, he’s innocent until proven guilty. And I don’t know with certainty that he’s guilty.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNptvSDeAf4
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Seriously????
These extreme attempts to cover it up, censor it, tell easy to bust lies about it and even claim it''s a hoax will not make it go away.
Innocent people are transparent and use the truth to prove they are innocent.
Trump claiming that this is a D hoax is yet another kick in the teeth to the hundreds of victims.
The most amazing thing is not the complete lack of empathy for the many horribly victimized girls SOME by Donald Trump the serial predator but that he wants us to SEE HIM as the victim.
WOW!
President Trump actually wants us to believe that this is just a made up hoax by the Ds to get Trump, the only victim.
But his private attorney, who was also appointed to be the Deputy Attorney General by Trump to assure that he has full control of the justice department was out interviewing the queen pin of the hoax who is in prison for 20 years for the hoax.
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5433788-maxwell-pardon-republican-warning/
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This is pure posturing(virtue signaling) by the Rs that want their base to see them as tough on this issue.
What will they do WHEN Trump doesn't follow their warning?
NOTHING THAT HAS ANY IMPACT!
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5439732-trump-ghislaine-maxwell-epstein/
Maxwell met with Blanche over two days in recent weeks to share information about the Epstein case. ABC News reported that Maxwell did not say anything during the interviews that would be harmful to Trump.
In the wake of those interviews, Maxwell was transferred from a low-security prison in Florida to a minimum-security prison in Texas. Officials have not said why.
“I didn’t know about it at all. No, I read about it just like you did. It’s not a very uncommon thing,” Trump said when asked Tuesday if he’d approved of the transfer.
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Another of a dozen examples of Trumps blatantly obvious lies. This is how a guilty person acts. Again, innocent people use the truth and transparency to vindicate themselves.
Not lies, cover ups, devious schemes and threats(10 billion law suit to WSJ-hush money agreements with victims-Maxwell interviews/bribe).
An innocent person would have simply released the Epstein files, knowing there's nothing in there that directly connects them to crimes because they didn't do anything wrong.
Don't forget, Epstein was likely about to blow the whistle on Trump and these other rich and powerful pedophiles in order to plea bargain his sentence to something better. He was killed for it.
The question is not whether Trump was a predator or not...........this is crystal clear. The question is, what does he know about who killed Epstein and was he in on it or DID HE DO IT?
Donald Trump is the most powerful man in the world. Other than Epstein and Maxwell, he is also the most guilty person and has the most to lose. There is 0 evidence that he actually killed Epstein.....but somebody did.
It could have been Clinton or any of the rich and powerful serial predators. This we will never know. But we do now know that Trump was a criminal, serial predator of these underage girls based on the extremely overwhelming, legally admissible circumstantial evidence that would convict him in a criminal trial.
In addition to that, his behavior is that of somebody that is 100% guilty and knows it.
Thank you Larry. I got it.
MM. enough said until we find out about your forth coming apology and retraction to several posts or when I admit he sure fooled me because I do not believe it as of this day. From my post above.
Thanks, Larry and mcfarm!
Larry characterized me pretty well.
mcfarm, this isn't a competition to see/prove who is right or wrong for me.
I generously share facts here and often do extensive analysis on weather, markets, price charts, climate science, chess, politics and more to share my God given gifts as an analyst with people who enjoy reading it and who often benefit from many of the insights...............for free. At the same time, I learn an enormous amount myself while doing it and from others here(Larry has tuned me into tons of weather/climate things which have enriched what I know).
Opinions of others that DISagree with me are encouraged and respected. They cause me to sincerely fact check myself. This has the impact of either learning something new or further boosting my confidence that all the facts point in 1 direction.
And this can change. For instance, I started, a month ago by assuming that Donald Trump was innocent. Since then, my investigation, with extensive facts that I've shared, tells us that he is not.
I'm an objective, independent scientist by training and mentality.
I don't affiliate strongly with a party or to individuals in that party but I do speak out EXTREMELY vigorously for what's right and what's wrong based on the objective facts and a personal belief system that places human beings and our planet at the highest priority.
‘She’d be screaming from the rooftops’: family of Virginia Guiffre speaks out on Maxwell prison treatment
https://www.cnn.com/2025/08/07/us/video/virginia-guiffre-family-ghislaine-maxwell-ebof-digvid
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https://www.cnn.com/2025/08/08/politics/epstein-maxwell-survivors-analysis
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Trump continues to mismanage Epsteingate to the max. By claiming that this is all a hoax perpetrated by the Ds and that he, Donald J Trump is the victim is such a galactic, disrespectful insult to the many REAL victims.
under aged girls used and abused as sex toys by rich and powerful men. Criminal predators like Donald J Trump for 2 decades.
Dehumanized to be possessions that can be stolen and poached, to use trumps own words about the most outspoken of them……….who died suddenly this past April.
This latest strategy, that continues to reject the emotion EMPATHY for other people which Trump is incapable of, instead tries to sell these horrific crimes again young girls as being more fake news manufactured by the Ds to hurt him. This is a new low point in the life of Donald Trump.
I thought that it was unlikely that he will ever suffer consequences for his despicable past as a serial predator., sometimes of under aged girls that he and, especially Epstein preyed on because he has total control of all the information and people that are in charge of it.
This is another profound demonstration of the dangers of an authoritarian ruler. No checks and balances. Nobody above them to reign in extreme behavior and extreme policies and extreme damage in the making, as his tariffs are. Allowing him to take the most ruinous paths for everybody as the most powerful man in the world that strikes fear in those who have the power to oppose him.
So here is why this latest strategical blunder, just greatly increased his risk.
All those REAL victims and their families are being so incredibly disrespected and hurt all over again, this time verbally by Donald Trump is Fueling massive incentive for them to speak out
Its been almost impossible for victims to find the couragebecause of the deaths threats(and real deaths to show it’s more than just a threat) and hush money, Trumps favorite to pay off woman and giirls But the chances of several of them coming forward just soared higher.
We know they are out there amd they are THE ONE THING THAT TRUMP CANT CONTROL. Many to most of them know who some of the others are and have caring adults with support groups assisting them.
Trumps behavior here has a good chance of motivating enough outrage to overcome their fear of him and the other rich and powerful men that have paid no,price for their serial predatory behavior. and crimes. We know this happened but we just don’t know who the victims are and who the predators are./were.
Im not saying this because I want it to happen, and I definite ly do but am just stating a stone cold fact about how Trump just greatly increased the chances of it happening.
It’s in this new, Trump created environment , where victims are most likely to be Believed. Most likely to get empathy from the vast majority. Most,likely to hold the predators accountable. Now, we just wait , to see if we get some victims with names.
The media and Ds completely own Trump here, mainly because Trump is his own worst enemy.
All they need to do is to report the authentic facts and let President Trump do the rest in a desperate, counterproductive effort to convince the world that something we know for sure happened …..didn’t really happen.
The Ds, media and advocates of the many survivors will be making a great effort to oppose Trumps effort to sweep this under the rug as a hoax , with him being the victim not them.
They have the truth on their side to oppose the most powerful man in the world who victimized them, along with many other predators , who just like Trump……used their wealth and power to victimize under age girls as their sex toys.
As I stated 100 posts ago to MAGA:
Be careful for what you wish for…….because you might just get it!
https://nypost.com/2025/08/09/us-news/doj-moves-to-unseal-epstein-maxwell-grand-jury-exhibits/
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What joke!
What a cover up!
This would be like people wanting to know about the entire 2024 baseball season, including how the play off and World Series games went and the only information released is about the preseason games and being told that there was nothing important to know after that, so they keep that information to themselves.
When they do finally release that information about the entire season..........all the games that featured certain teams that they didn't want to win.........are completely deleted from the records and presented as complete records about the season.
Then tell us the other games were just a hoax made up by the winning teams.
And brag about how transparent they are!
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And who does the R Congress subpoena to testify under oath?
No, not the serial predator and best friend of Jeffrey Epstein for 15 years, but........ BILL CLINTON from the D party.
Granted, Clinton has enormous circumstantial evidence against him that is compelling (not nearly the amount that makes Trump guilty from a criminal case standard ) but c'mon!!! Even MAGA will see what they are trying to do............ok, maybe some in MAGA???
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David Letterman knew the difference between right and wrong when it comes to rapists. Trump, even in 1992 argued with crystal clarity that he thought that money and power is the most important factor, NOT justice or the victim!
It's only going to get worse for Trump because nearly 100% of the evidence, from his past behavior and verbiage shows this pathological mindset. Some of that evidence is powerful, legally defined circumstantial evidence, shown at MarketForum in the previous thread that proves his guilt.
This video above is not at all part of that evidence. It just shows his mindset.
Evidence that contradicts this mindset or that contradicts the tons of circumstantial evidence does not exist, so the Trump team needs to use lies (from Maxwell and others) as well as censorship and covering up as their defense tactic.
They can do this because Trump has control of the information, as well as R control of both houses in Congress.
No question that the Ds and MSM are pouncing on this because Trump is an R.
That doesn't make Trump innocent, which is all I care about.
What's worse........... attacking a guilty person with political bias because he's from the other party and you want to hold them accountable or defending a guilty person because he's from your party and you want them to be innocent?
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In this video, a much younger Trump makes it clear that he thinks the predator/rapist was the victim and that victims should just be paid off and this is Trump justice (Tyson fighting to make 6 million dollars and donating that to rape victims instead of serving a long sentence in prison).
This is exactly that Trump has done, pay hush money to keep interactions with women and underage girls in his past that he doesn't want the public to know about.
"Insofar as the motion to unseal implies that the grand jury materials are an untapped mine load of undisclosed information about Epstein or Maxwell or confederates, they are definitely not that," the judge wrote.
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Exactly! Just a disingenuous stunt by the Trump cover up team to fake transparency.
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It's takes some pretty extreme denial-ism to not see the Trump team covering up for their chief predator. Every fact points to this. No facts point away from it. FACTS, not lies from Trump.
Don't forget, we already had 1 of Trump's under aged victims try to speak out but he made her go away.
https://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/donald-trump-rape-lawsuit-dropped-230770
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1. Was this woman just making stuff up, especially since the first time she had no legal representation/attorney or advice that suggests she did it on her own?
2. Or did Trump scare her and pay her off?
The powerful circumstantial evidence strongly suggests #2, especially since her attorney stated she was too afraid to move forward because of the threats.
It's still early in Eptein-gate. I would be surprised if additional victims don't come forward. I would be even more surprised if Trump has to ever pay a legal price with him controlling the US intelligence and legal systems right now.
just a further erosion in peoples trust in him is all. Or for people that trust a Cobra snake more than Trump, additional evidence to bolster their opinions
The guy tried to overthrow the democratic government/overturn the results of the 2020 election that he lost, culminating with his failed Insurrection on January 6, 2021 WHILE HE WAS IN OFFICE!!!! and is now the president again in his 2nd term.
What's a few rapes of underage girls and 2+ decades of being a serial sexual predator compared to that???
Seriously, some of his loyal MAGA crowd may finally see the REAL Donald Trump over this.
What does “some” mean? Low single digits??
https://www.cnn.com/2025/08/11/politics/epstein-files-judge-ruling-grand-jury-materials
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This smart judge completely obliterated Trump's bamboozling scheme!
Innocent people don't use bamboozling scheme's and cover ups to try to mislead others. They just don't!
That's because THE TRUTH exonerates them AND THEY USE IT!
Trump knows what he did. This is why he isn't using the truth.
The profound, legally significant, circumstantial evidence tells us clearly why President Trump is doing fraudulent back flips trying to cover this up and NOT release the files.
Jeffrey Epstein had many hundreds of under age victims during his 2 decades running his sex trafficking ring. It defined him. Donald Trump has a long history of predatory behavior with women(many paid off with hush money-most of them we will never know about).
One would have to be oblivious to the facts and ability to connect the dots to not see that the same best friends for 15 years, Epstein and Trump that complimented each others taste in women and admired each other..........featured a Jeffrey Epstein, committing many hundreds of sex crimes against under age girls during their relationship and a Donald Trump never having any idea.
The fact is, being sexual predators and sharing this together is exactly why they were best friends for these 15 years.
Trump, like all the other rich and powerful men has covered this up. The question is not whether these men exist (and Donald Trump is one of them) but which ones played a role in killing Jeffrey Epstein to prevent him from giving out their names for the plea bargain he was going to make.
We don't have any direct evidence that Donald Trump is one of them that killed Epstein but we know more about his involvement than all the other predators combined.
Jeffrey Epstein
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Started by metmike - July 16, 2025, 9:34 p.m.
It’s true that Mr. Trump has not been accused of doing anything wrong. Neither have any of the rich and,powerful predators that committed sex crimes , victimizing these under age girls.
But we know they are out there and we know they are being protected.
This is why Trump won’t release the files. Because he is one of them.
We can be pretty sure that Bill Clinton is another one of them.
Trump sure knows how to pick his best friends.
Jeffrey Epstein for 15 years.
In 2025, now it's psychopath Netanyahu from Israel.
While most of the civilized world condemns Israel and Netanyahu for their horrific genocide in Gaza, Mr Trump vigorously defends and assists him.
https://www.cnn.com/2025/08/14/politics/hunter-biden-melania-trump
“You know, I’ve done pretty well on these lawsuits lately. And I said, go forward.
Melania Trump is seeking $1 billion in damages if they don’t take down the video. She also wants a formal apology from Hunter Biden.
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$1,000,000,000 over 1 statement during a radio broadcast
At least he they're picking a battle with somebody they could win against compared to a near 0% chance of winning against the Wall Street Journal over something that the WSJ has the goods on Trump with and the lawyers to back them up.
Having a battle with Hunter Biden is always a great strategy to get Rs to support you!
But here's the problem. President Trump wants this to go away. The main thing that this lawsuit did was bring this topic back to the top of the headline news.
Most people would have never known what Hunter stated and even more would not have cared about anything that 0 credibility Hunter Biden had to say..............until this lawsuit made it big news.
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https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-prince-andrew-women-royal-book-2113528
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Giuffre_v._Prince_Andrew
Virginia Giuffre v. Prince Andrew was a lawsuit filed in U.S. federal court in which Virginia Giuffre (née Roberts) sued Prince Andrew, Duke of York, second son of Queen Elizabeth II, for sexual assault. Giuffre's lawsuit, filed under New York's Child Victims Act, alleged that she was forced to have several sexual encounters with Andrew in the early 2000s at the age of 17, after being sex trafficked by the American financier and convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein.[1][2] Andrew denied Giuffre's claims. The lawsuit was filed in August 2021 in the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of New York, and was assigned to senior U.S. district judge Lewis A. Kaplan.
Giuffre and Andrew reached an out-of-court settlement in February 2022, and the case was dismissed by the parties' stipulation in March 2022 without going to trial
Even though the amount of money set to be given by the Duke to Giuffre has not been officially disclosed, The Daily Telegraph estimated that it could be as high as £12 million ($16.3 million[65]), with the Queen partly funding it by giving £2 million to Giuffre's sex trafficking charity.
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We can be pretty confident that the predator's team didn't cough up $16+ million for something he didn't do.
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Virginia Giuffre suddenly died by suicide in April this year. Looks extraordinarily suspicious.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjzulIo6byg
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I don't have the evidence to support her death NOT being a suicide similar to the very compelling evidence that Jeffrey Epstein did NOT commit suicide. He was clearly murdered to keep him from speaking out to get a plea deal for lesser conviction and sentence by the prosecutor(s). Half a dozen weird coincidences, a couple extremely unlikely, all happening that night which prevented the jail from monitoring and protecting Epstein properly were something like a 1 in a million chance of occurring this way. I don't buy into conspiracy theories.........I BUST them.
When most of the authentic facts all point in 1 direction, it's not a conspiracy theory. It's compelling EVIDENCE that we use to help tell us about what actually happened and we can use that to try to figure out WHY it happened.