Hamas reasserts control on streets of Gaza, turning guns on its rivals
JERUSALEM — They blindfolded eight men accused of collaborating with Israel, made them kneel and executed them at point-blank range on a busy street in Gaza City. They sent jeeps filled with fighters to pursue the Astal militia, whose leader said it coordinates with Israel and had recently taken up arms alongside other gangs.
Hamas may have stopped fighting Israel, but it has launched a new, violent campaign to reassert control over local families and militias that had challenged its power during the past two years of war — including those who, according to the leaders of two clans, had received support from Israel. Whether by carrying out armed raids in Deir al-Balah in the central Gaza Strip or holding public executions farther north in Gaza City, Hamas is trying to send a clear message that, after months of hiding from Israeli fire, the militant group is back as the only visible authority inside the Gaza Strip, according to rival militia leaders, Palestinian officials and political analysts.
Thanks cutworm, great post! The war is NOT over!
Previous thread:
Trump Deserves Credit For Ending War
Started by joj - Oct. 13, 2025, 6:34 a.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/115220/
++++++++++++++++++=
Hamas has accused Israel of breaching the ceasefire by killing Palestinians while Israel says it wants the bodies of all hostages returned
+++++++++++
Previous thread:
Trump Deserves Credit For Ending War
Started by joj - Oct. 13, 2025, 6:34 a.m.
In contrast to the widespread condemnation from Palestinian leadership, US President Trump said he was unbothered by the videos.
“They did take out a couple of gangs that were very bad… and they killed a number of gang members,” Trump told reporters Tuesday night.
“That didn’t bother me much, to be honest with you. That’s okay. It’s a couple of very bad gangs. It’s no different than other countries like Venezuela [that have] sent their gangs [into the US],” he added.
++++++++++++++++++
25th Amendment
Started by metmike - Oct. 4, 2025, 8:47 p.m.
Videos show Hamas carrying out execution-style killings in Gaza
Social media videos analyzed by CNN show Hamas members carrying out execution-style killings on the streets of Gaza City, as the organization is re-asserting its power over the territory.
https://www.cnn.com/2025/10/15/world/video/hamas-killings-gaza-city-digvid
+++++++++++++
++++++++++++++++
This started days ago, almost immediately after Trump claimed peace forever in the Middle East and that Hamas needed to disarm to finish the deal or else he would disarm them and they know he means it.
That was already incredibly delusional with his war ending, Middle East peace declaration but then when Hamas, starts executing people right away, his spin of it of them restoring law and order in Gaza is galactically delusional.
The ceasefire agreement between Hamas and Israel has allowed more aid to flow into Gaza – but obstacles remain, particularly in the north
+++++++++++
As long as Netanyahu remains in power, there will never be lasting peace in Gaza!
+++++++++++++++++++
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOlomn5468I
Israel said Palestinian militants attacked its forces across cease-fire lines and launched a wave of attacks on Gaza. Both sides still say they are committed to the truce.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/19/world/middleeast/israel-gaza-ceasefire.html
++++++++++++++=
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/israel-military-gaza-hamas-strikes-ceasefire/
++++++++++
6 minutes ago
Ceasefire close to total collapse as Israeli military says it has launched strikes in response to ‘blatant violation’ of agreement by Hamas
Israeli airstrikes on Gaza as ceasefire comes under threat
Israel has closed its crossing points into Gaza to aid convoys, a security official told AFP on Sunday after the government accused Hamas of violating a ceasefire agreement.
+++++++++++=
Previous thread:
Trump Deserves Credit For Ending War
Started by joj - Oct. 13, 2025, 6:34 a.m.
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/c2kpx7yyq9pt
++++++++++
I will continue to be extremely hopeful for peace but report realities, that include the fact that Netanyahu must go to greatly increase the chances for peace.
Sadly, Israel has done permanent damage to itself the past 2 years that will remain well after diabolical Netanyahu is replaced.
The MANY millions of new enemies and people that hate Israel because of Netanyahu's genocide, include people that want to destroy Israel and who will be trying to destroy Israel long after Netanyahu is gone. So sad but a no brainer consequence to a country that conducts itself this way for 2 years.
But it can always get worse or better from here even though we can't undo the past.
Peace in Gaza would be a BETTER path and we should hope for that!
+++++++++++++++
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Gaza_war
As of 7 October 2025, over 70,100 people (68,172 Palestinians[4][9] and 1,983 Israelis[c]) have been reported killed in the Gaza war according to the Gaza Health Ministry (GHM) and Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs, as well as 217 journalists and media workers,[46][d] 120 academics,[49] and over 224 humanitarian aid workers, a number that includes 179 employees of UNRWA.[50] Scholars have estimated 80% of Palestinians killed are civilians.[6][5][7][51] A study by OHCHR, which verified fatalities from three independent sources, found that 70% of the Palestinians killed in residential buildings or similar housing were women and children
+++++++++++++++
It's mind boggling that President Trump tells more lies/gets his facts wrong than when he tells the truth/get his facts right! Even for this profession with so many morally bankrupt, dishonest politicians he still comes in rock bottom, dead last and well below even the lowest standards.
The graph below was from his 1st term. He is much worse so far in his 2nd term.
President Trump was already delusional in his 1st term. ONLY a delusional person would be capable of stating more than 30,000 false and misleading things in 4 years.
Now he is also suffering from dementia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_or_misleading_statements_by_Donald_Trump
As much as I hope for peace in Gaza and for Trump to be successful there and for peace in the Middle East, what Israel has done the past 2 years has crossed over a bridge too far that has been burned behind them, never to return to what things were like before October 7, 2023.
It’s crazy to think there won’t be long term blowback, serious consequences for a 2 year genocide of Palestinians.
There are no international legal authorities that have the power to arrest and try Netanyahu for his countless war crimes against Palestinians.
However, one would have to be very naïve to think that 2 billion Muslims in the world will just forgive this and go on to a new mentality of peace with Israel.
The relationships between Israel and its neighbors was bad before this. Just imagine how much worse it will be now.
I‘m not Muslim or from the Middle East and this has outraged me as somebody that cares about humanity.
However, for many of the 2 billion Muslims on the planet this is much More personal.
It would be against human nature and history to expect Arabs in the Middle East to just let bygones be bygones and move forward without a burning desire for vengeance to seek justice for what Netanyahu and Israel have done the past 2 years.
++++++++++++++++++
Most of US allies consider Netanyahu a war criminal for his genocide in Gaza and have been emphatically condemning him for 2 years for his activity in Gaza.
After 2 years of condemning this activity, they are going to participate in it??
They want a 2 state solution.
If Trump sends US troops in, it would be insane. As if Israel, the past 2 years wasn't doing enough???
Trump has already lost all credibility in most countries in the world. However, Israel is one of the few countries that love him. Can you guess why???
https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/policies/eu-position-situation-middle-east/
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/416593
++++++++++++++
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/114770/#115276
‘Things have gotten worse.’ More than a week after the ceasefire, Palestinians in Gaza say they have seen no change in their lives as Israel continues to restrict aid deliveries. Only two Israeli-controlled crossings are open, while Rafah remains closed.
https://www.aljazeera.com/video/newsfeed/2025/10/22/whats-going-on-with-aid-to-gaza
The UN's top legal body, the International Court of Justice, has said Israel has an obligation to ensure the basic needs of civilians in Gaza are met. It has also addressed Israeli claims that parts of the UN's Palestinian aid agency involve Hamas members.
https://news.sky.com/story/gaza-latest-israel-hostages-trump-vance-netanyahu-13443931
Israel continues to block aid from getting into Gaza!
Live updates
++++++++++++++++++++++
There Is No Peace in Gaza
Since President Trump announced his plan for a ceasefire, people I know have been killed. One relative described torture during a year in Israeli custody.
Israel is back to bombing the heck out of Gaza and killing innocent people.
+++++++++++++++++
Israel said the strikes were a response to alleged violations of the ceasefire by Hamas.
https://www.npr.org/2025/10/29/g-s1-95523/israel-hamas-gaza-ceasefire
+++++++++++++++
We'll just have to wait to see which days ahead will be war and killing days and which ones will be permanent ceasefire days
Do y’all think Trump pretty much has the 2026 Nobel Peace Prize wrapped up due to the Israel-Gaza ceasefire? Opinions?
Thanks, Larry!
Biden's cease fire lasted longer than this and resulted in the return of more hostages and he didn't get the Nobel Peace Prize:
Re: Re: Trump Deserves Credit For Ending War
By metmike - Oct. 13, 2025, 9:53 p.m.
Trump is the same guy starting a war with Venezuela and killing people on boats in cold blood, violating International law and human rights, so I would be shocked if the Nobel Peace Prize committee will not be turned off by that and a dozen other ANTI peace character traits that define him.
Including renaming the Department of Defense, the Department of WAR.
I remain hopeful that things can evolve in the right direction in Gaza but lasting peace between Arabs and Jews in the Middle East as Trump has declared he has accomplished is completely ignoring all the relevant facts, long history and indoctrinated hate from both those 2 groups that is GREATER NOW than ever before.
Maybe he will end the war in Ukraine before then????
That's why I voted for him. If that happens, he deserves recognition.
Or maybe, instead he'll cause a nuclear war?
Trump resuming nuclear weapons testing
Started by metmike - Oct. 30, 2025, 3:43 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/115583/
Or maybe, by this time next year he'll be claiming to have stopped 15 wars
I've never known a person to get this award that spent so much time campaigning for themselves with embellishments and lies to get it.
If we look at all the past winners of this award, they are almost the complete opposite type of people that Donald Trump is. I would say that there have been many, much more worthy people and organizations (like doctors without borders in 2025) However, go ahead and read the past winners and why they won it. They are exactly the opposite of Donald Trump.
However, this award is political and can go to some people you would never imagine.
Al Gore and the IPCC got it in 2007 for helping to save the world from climate change.
https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/peace/2007/summary/
Just imagine their mindset to give Gore this award and use it to imagine what they think of Donald Trump's complete opposite position on this same topic that they cherish enough to award the Nobel Peace Prize over. Their mindset would be that Donald Trump is DESTROYING THE PLANET.
+++++++++++++
Updated Sep 24, 2025
https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/24/world/seven-unendable-wars-trump-intl
++++++++++++++++++++
I forgot to add the list of the past Noble Peace Prize winners.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nobel_Peace_Prize_laureates
+++++++++
After looking at them again, it seems like there is no way that they will see Donald Trump as the same type of people that they give this award to. Look at the names and accomplishments and tell me what you think, please?
Hey Mike,
I do not think Trump deserves the NPP. I was being silly and asking it tongue in cheek. I agree with all of your points suggesting he won’t get it/doesn’t deserve it.
Thanks, Larry!
It took me awhile to realize that, Larry when it should have been immediately obvious from knowing you!
++++++++++++++++++++
Trump has backed Israel through numerous violations of the ceasefire, which has yet to enter its crucial second phase.
++++++++++++++++
Donald Trump's #1 concern is Donald Trump. Since he declared and guaranteed a permanent, long lasting peace last month, he interprets all events so that they line up with his Donald Trump ending the 8th war, false narrative and absurd, delusional view as the omnipotent Donald Trump the peacemaker.
Even as he illegally bombs boats (and kills dozens of people in cold blood) that supposedly are loaded with drugs against International AND US laws for his agenda/war against Venezuela but pretending it isn't a war to eliminate their leader from office.
++++++++++++++++++++++====
President Trump defended Israel’s strikes in Gaza, saying it was justified in doing so. Trump told journalists aboard Air Force One that Israel "should hit back" when its
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=2014962842606193
+++++++++++++++
This is an absurd interpretation. Even if evil Hamas started behaving like choir boys for the rest of the year, Israel, under diabolical Netanyahu will FIND EXCUSES to justify killing more innocent Palestinians.
Somebody from Gaza crossed the yellow line: KILL MORE INNOCENT PEOPLE FROM GAZA, it's their fault
Somebody from Hamas, supposedly fired on the IDF? KILL 100+ MORE INNOCENT PEOPLE, it's their fault.
Always being interpreted and justified by Netanyahu who knows how to manipulate Trump.
You cannot make peace with a group that rejects it, you cannot stabilize Gaza with foreign troops the region distrusts, and you cannot replace political courage with cash.
+++++++++++++
I will always be hopeful of being wrong but hope should never cancel out authentic facts and realities.
++++++++++++
While Israel, led by the Netanyahu regime continues to squawk about the Hamas violations, THEY have had a non stop violation (24 hours a day) by blocking much of the food and supplies desperately needed for the sick, starving and dying people, mainly children and women (that they intentionally caused and don't want it to get better).
+++++++++++++++
If they won't even allow enough food/supplies in for starving/sick people what hope does this solution have???
The documents, presented in Israel last month to officials from the Departments of State and Defense, raise concerns including whether a multinational security initiative meant to keep the peace in Gaza can really be deployed.
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/11/11/trump-peace-gaza-documents-00642466
https://kfgo.com/2025/11/13/russia-proposes-its-own-un-resolution-on-gaza-in-challenge-to-us-draft/
+++++++++++++++++
The 3 most diabolical men on the planet are making a case for THEIR peace plans in the Gaza. Not a good sign.
1. Putin from Russia
2. Trump from the USA
3. Netanyahu from Israel
I'm hopeful that a miracle will happen but not realistic because all of these men are psychopaths that only care about themselves.
+++++++++++++
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-11-15/israel-gaza-ceasefire-one-month-on-what-has-changed/106013388
++++++++++++++++
https://news.un.org/en/story/2025/11/1166356
+++++++++++++
+++++++++++++++++++++
As long as Netanyahu is in charge, real progress will be hindered. Unfortunately, there is no going back from the permanent damage these 2 years have caused to the relationship between Israel and its adversaries in the Middle East. It's delusional to think that Trump will wave a magic MAGA wand and suddenly, Arabs and Jews in the Middle East will forget about generations of indoctrinated hate that for the past 2 year have been juiced up by a horrific genocide, intentionally caused by hatred for Palestinians.
Like the Palestinians and their Muslim/Arab comrades will just say "No problem-o, we forgive Israel and want to live in peace with them"
I am telling you with absolute certainty that the Arab hate for Israel went UP the past 2 years and if anything, could be close to the worst in history. However, some of the previous wars and events were pretty bad. After October 7, 2023, the same can be said about how Israel feels towards its enemies, specifically Hamas. Israel wants Hamas dead or gone for good reasons ….and Hamas is still there.
A MAGA command from a pathological thinker, though he's the most powerful man in the world is not going to magically make all that go away.
i continue to be hopeful for a miracle but remain tethered to the stone cold realities that define human behavior!