Ukraine’s president will be lobbying Trump to provide Tomahawk missiles to help in the war against Russia
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Trump has been all over the place on this issue. Almost every assessment, prediction and promise so far this year has been almost exactly wrong on this topic. His boasting, bloviating and publicity stunts to elevate Donald Trump are crystal clearly his top priority. This makes him an extremely low credibility source on this, his ruinous No rhyme or reason/impulsive tariffs and everything else, despite being, unfortunately the most powerful person in the world.
Flipping a coin would have, at least been correct 50% of the time. Believing in the opposite of what Trump states on the Ukraine war would have yielded the best results this past year!
The war WILL end at some point and if it's in the next 3+ years, while Trump is in office, regardless of the circumstances, Trump will claim he did it.
Remember that I voted for Trump last November because he promised to end the Ukraine war fast. Nobody really believed he could do it in 24 hours as promised.
He has been an extreme disappointment to me in almost every of the numerous realms that he has abused his power in. He is not only delusional but has increasingly worsening dementia which now makes him more dangerous than before because the R congress has given him all of their power and the conservative Supreme Court is not doing their job to challenge him.
He is truly ruling as an authoritarian that professes his hatred for over half of the Americans that disprove of him. Instead of representing them, as their president too, he is obsessed with PUNISHING THEM for not supporting him.
This is an extremely pathological political situation that violates the objectives of our Constitution and does not represent a true democracy.
This is the ONLY WAY to stop this extremely dysfunctional form of government and get it back to working the way our Constitution and democracy was designed.
I am far less concerned with what is happening in Ukraine, in a war that was a LONG TIME AGO, won by Russia (and a president that wants to use it to make himself look good) than I am in what's happening in our own country!!!
25th Amendment
Started by metmike - Oct. 4, 2025, 8:47 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/115081/
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Started by mcfarm - Aug. 15, 2025, 7:32 p.m.
It Takes a Land Force to Defeat a Land Force
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Zelensky, Biden and NATO got Ukraine's land force of brave soldiers killed off, sending them on suicide missions against Russia's MUCH BIGGER army that Putin sent on suicide missions.
More Russians have been killed by far but when an army starts with a much bigger numbers advantage in a war of attrition.......guess who wins almost every time? It's sad to think that Putin would sacrifice his much bigger army, the lives of countless human beings knowing this to win but they are just his pawns not human beings.
It was even dumber for Biden/Zelensky/NATO to sacrifice the Ukraine army's soldiers TO LOSE the war that they wanted instead of negotiating with Putin in 2021/22.
NATO/European/Zelensky/Western propaganda doesn't win wars and this war was lost a long time ago. Ukraine doesn't have much of an army left, so Putin is exploiting his advantage to capture more and more land, with Ukraine/NATO's completely delusional position in negotiating being that of a country that won the war, demanding all the land back that the real winner captured, in addition to what Putin/NATO fought this war over (NATO in Ukraine).
Putin is NEVER giving all the land back and will NEVER, NEVER agree to NATO in Ukraine.
The longer Ukraine/NATO insist otherwise with a non serious, delusional negotiating position, the longer Putin will take advantage of his superior position and capture more and more land.
The West can celebrate all they want over how many causalities Russia is suffering (those are human beings too) and what the cost has been to Russia and pretend that this means Russia is actually losing the most, which must mean Ukraine is actually really winning by losing less.
But the fact remains, Ukraine did lose and loses more land every week as well as other loses that a country fighting a war IN THEIR COUNTRY, loses.
Sadly, our morally bankrupt, bought and paid for politicians are controlled by the diabolical military-industrial complex which gets rich from wars, especially this one. The biased news media is controlled by political activists and ratings/sales which includes appreciating wars that increase their profits.
They are so obsessed with hating Putin that they can't conceive of acknowledging he actually won the war a long time ago............so they continually pass on the propaganda and to continue fighting for the lost cause while making it worse and worse for Ukraine.
Look at the map below which has the latest, updated information on the Ukraine war.
Blue(other than the water) represents Ukraine advancing or claiming to advance.
There isn't any blue! That's because Russia already won this war and is taking more land as both sides are suffering more casualties.
The propaganda wants us to think that Russia's bigger casualties mean that Ukraine is winning.......so Ukraine should continue to fight to get all their land back.
The complete OPPOSITE is happening. Look at the map!
One of NATO's core objectives is to surround and destroy Russia. It is NOT just a defensive pact.
Putin knows this and its why we are having this war. Devious NATO was willing to sacrifice all of Ukraine's army(when there was no chance to win) because it considers the damage happening to Russia as a victory for NATO.
It was the latest swing in Trump’s position on the war that often shifts following contact with Putin, who has shown skill in influencing the U.S. president.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2025/10/18/russia-putin-trump-ukraine-phone/
I believe(speculate) that Trump's 180 degree flip a month+ ago to suddenly, unexpectedly, strongly supporting the NATO/Ukraine position, even stating that Ukraine can get their land back in contrast to everything he had been saying, was purely a strategic move designed (in his mind) to get the attention of the Nobel Peace Prize, Norwegian committee that votes. Historically they have been joined at the hip with NATO and the UN.
He was also talking about giving Ukraine long range missiles to attack, deeply inside of Russia.
After he didn't get the Nobel Peace Prize that he's convinced that he deserves.............he immediately went back to his previous position on Ukraine/Russia.
So now he doesn't have to suck up to the 5 people on the committee that votes for the Nobel Peace Prize anymore.
Not only is this another example of Trump's actions and agenda mostly designed to do things that are best to make Donald Trump look good(based on what Donald Trump thinks that is) but it shows again, how unstable, fickle, unpredictable and impulsive he is.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_Nobel_Committee
The Norwegian Nobel Committee (Norwegian: Den norske Nobelkomité) selects the recipients of the Nobel Peace Prize each year on behalf of Swedish industrialist Alfred Nobel's estate, based on instructions of Nobel's will.
Five members are appointed by the Norwegian Parliament. In his will, Alfred Nobel tasked the parliament of Norway with selecting the winners of the Nobel Peace Prize. At the time, Norway and Sweden were in a loose personal union. Despite its members being appointed by Parliament, the committee is a private body tasked with awarding a private prize. In recent decades, most committee members were retired politicians.
Trumps complete reversal, all the way back to his position he had before is pretty indicative that his temporary position, supporting Ukraine/Zelensky/NATO in their impossibly absurd position (to get all their land back and get into NATO) was just a Trump marketing scheme to get the Nobel Peace Prize votes.
It didn't work, so now he's back to the only position that makes sense.
Zelenskyy put on a brave face, telling NBC News’ “Meet the Press,” in an interview recorded Friday after the meeting with Trump, that “we are not losing this war, and Putin is not winning.”
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Sure thing, Zelensky, we can tell that Putin is not winning/or Ukraine losing by looking at this map again
Red = Russia winning = ~100%
Blue = Ukraine winning= ~0%
As unpredictable and unstable as Trump is, the current position of his, similar to the one before he made the play to get the Noble Peace Prize is THE ONLY ONE that has a chance to obtain peace and stop Ukraine's losses where they are.
Ideally, Biden/NATO and puppet man/Zelensky would have been smart enough to realize that in 2021/early 22 and Ukraine would not have lost anything. NATO would have lost their objective to get Ukraine but Ukraine would have lost nothing.
Instead, Biden and NATO decided to have a war with Russia to fight over NATO getting Ukraine and called Putin's bluff. But Putin was not bluffing.
Ukraine got decimated and lost the war by every reasonable standard over a year ago. They have no military left to defend, so Russia is slowly taking more and more territory as Zelensky, NATO/Europe/the MSM keep declaring that we can defeat Russia but all we need is X, Y and Z.
Well NATO/Ukraine/Biden just used up A thru W in their military alphabet and they turned out to be the absolute worse war strategists in the history of wars.
Sending hundreds of thousands of brave Ukrainians on suicide missions and completely flushing hundreds of billions of US tax payer war funding down the toilet (that made Ukraine even more corrupt).
And after all this, they still insist on fighting on instead of negotiating for peace that REQUIRES they acknowledge the truth. THEY LOST THE WAR! All the Western/NATO/MSM lies and propaganda in the world can't change that.
The map above is the indisputable, objective, authentic truth.
Zelensky and NATO: Please do what Trump advises and stop using Ukrainians to fight NATO's war. NATO doesn't care about Ukrainians. It wants to destroy Russia and has been USING Ukrainians. Zelensky has offered up his brave soldiers on a silver platter to NATO to fight their NATO war to get his Western World celebrity status as a great warrior, fighting the evil Putin/Russia.
Worst military leader in the history of the world and you can tell that here in October 20, 2025 by just reading his words again:
“we are not losing this war, and Putin is not winning.”
A man that doesn't even know the battle field, in fact convinces himself and his mostly killed off army (from his CATASTROPHICALLY BAD decisions) that its the complete opposite of reality and makes military decisions based on a fake reality that is just killing off the rest of his army is not qualified to lead them.
And Trump does another flip!
https://www.cnn.com/2025/10/22/politics/bessent-sanctions-russia
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