Does anybody have an opiniom for or against Pence being the person to lead the fight against the virus in the USA
IMHO if Pence surrounds himself with the best specialist/ Dr's available he is the closet person to report to the president
Pence does not have to be an expert. He has to select good advice and then give these people the latitude to do their job. Of coarse there are multiple specalists available, so everybody can't be doing a press release on their own
Trump is correct to have Pence at the centre to filter out panic and wild stories such as AOC and other Dem who would rather critize Trump, for political gain, than do some thing constructive
This is not a political crisis
This needs one person to serve as the envoy to the president
Pence should be able to do that
We will wait and see how effecttive Pence is, but for now we have to give him our support. We don't expect miracles. We do expect the Dr's to say Pence is doing all he can.
What other choice do we have???
I would feel better if somebody was in charge of finding supplies that we will need and are already in a shortage or non-existent
Does anybody have a different idea???
Pence is the absolute best choice!
As a previous governor of Indiana (my state) with a record of tremendous success, he understands the process as well as anybody could. He has unique experience that will allow him to communicate and get resources/money/tools where they need to go quickly. He is not making the decisions on money appropriated but is overseeing the complicated process that a previous governor, like Mike Huckabee understands.
As expected, as soon as Trump announced Pence being in charge, the MSM decided to do another Judge Kavanaugh, Bill Barr type pathetic smearing of his record and reputation.
Trump’s pick met with outrage from experts who question vice-president’s record on health and say appointment ‘endangers us’
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/feb/27/mike-pence-coronavirus-response-experts
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/02/27/mike-pence-hiv-indiana/
metmike: I can provide a dozen more MSM sources all saying the same thing. Regardless of of what happened with the HIV situation, they want us to think that Pence will be making decisions on funding and what to fund and will blow it............WRONG!
He will be coordinating the responses of each state so they can affectively act and manage this threat using the tools, resources and money provided to them. As a former, effective governor, he is the perfect person to do this. He is also a wonderful communicator and will be effective in doing this.
https://www.foxnews.com/media/mike-huckabee-ocasio-cortez-mike-pence-coronavirus
metmike: Think about what just happened here. VP Pence is appointed to a new and very important job and less than 1 day after being on the job, before doing anything good or bad.......he is completely trashed/vilified, denigrated and massively rejected by..............all the democrats and MSM. Not the republicans though.
Under these circumstances, no matter what Pence does, the dems and MSM will constantly criticize and condemn him, while giving him no credit when he earns it. Of course, he is connected to Trump.......what did we expect?
So the question is..............Is this position by the democrats going to make Mike Pence more or less effective?(which is what we want for the American people)
Do they want him to fail because it hurts Trump? Of course they do.
Who else gets hurt besides Trump when they act like this?..............hint, it includes people from both parties, including all democrats that hate Trump.
Regardless, think about this.
What person would be hurt the most if there was a widespread outbreak of Coronavirus in the US that killed many tens of thousands........or close to a flu season?
President Trump would be damaged the most and it would cost him the election for sure because the dems and MSM have already begun their strategy to blame him for everything bad in the US that has to do with the Coronavirus.
So would President Trump, being well aware of this fact and wanting to be elected in November more than anything else........ be negligent in aggressively managing the Coronavirus in the United States?
Of course not!
He has MUCH, MUCH more on the line than any of these democrats that are absurdly attacking him for being negligent.
So why is Trump telling us that a major outbreak is possible but unlikely?(while the others are saying a major outbreak is likely and it will be his fault).
Because a major outbreak IS unlikely(but possible)..........based on authentic science.
Who is telling the truth then?
And they call Mike Pence anti science (-:
Who's team is Pence on? He got an envelope at Bush's funeral. What did it say? Lots of chatter about him
Kermit said: "Who's team is Pence on? He got an envelope at Bush's funeral. What did it say? Lots of chatter about him"
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Here goes Kermit yet again with wild conspiracy unsubtantiated BS. This is the same poster that claimed John McCain didn't die of a brain tumor!! Keep that in mind when you read comments like this.
Kermit,
I had never heard anything about these envelopes until you mentioned it.............probably because I try to avoid conspiracy theory sites but will almost always take a look to see whats there, even if its just out of curiosity.
So what happened, apparently is that several presidents, vice presidents and their wives got a note inside of an envelop that was in their program. It appears that Jimmy Carter did not get one for some reason.
It could have been anything in the note..........anything, good or bad. Seems strange that President Carter did not get one and that somehow, the photographer shooting the video knew to zoom in on SOME the ones exactly when they opened the envelop.
I've shot a lot of wedding videos and a thousand hours of video of my kids and grandkids the past 30 years and it appears(it could have just been a coincidence) like the photog knew the envelop was there a couple of times and went for the close up shot as soon as the recipient found it.
So what does that mean?
It means that there is more that we DON'T know than what we do know, mainly with regards to what their notes said.
This opens the door to wild, unsubstantiated speculation about what might have been written on the notes.
Was it the same?
Was it good?
Was it bad?
No way to know.
It could have just been a special message from the deceased that he wanted them to get at his funeral. None of them smiled after reading it though, so it appears to have been something serious.
We will never know.
So, I would not have understood your post earlier with out reading some interpretations of what some people think might have been on the notes and why certain people got it.........wild, unsubstantiated speculation. There appears to be an assumption that if you got a note, you must be part of the same group..........is that correct?
Jimmy Carter has always been my favorite president and the only authentically honest president in my lifetime. History may have treated him badly but as a human being, there has been nobody with more integrity and unselfishness. and giving his life up to make the world a better place.
So why was he the only president to NOT get the note? Trump did not get one either it appears.
We will never know and it could have ZERO to do with any wild guesses that you or me can make.
Regardless, your comment about Pence being somebody that got a note has no relevance to any realms outside of the funeral because we really have no idea of what was on the notes and why certain leaders got one and others did not.
Was it part of a deep state message? Is that what you think?
You can't get to square one providing evidence of that and never will but can enjoy reading about all the speculative possibilities.
There is almost no way that you can provide facts to substantiate that or that Pence getting a letter means anything about him.
Regardless, I did enjoy learning that these people got special notes and find it super intriguing...........wishing that we could know what was on them.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-mmyIkxBRak&feature=emb_logo
Trading involves separating wheat from chaff. We're does the above fit
The above about McCain is just silliness. .............chaff to use your term.
BS to use another.
as of the first of February
147000 sealed indictments as of first of February.
https://ho1.us/2020/02/147-960-sealed-indictments-on-february-1st-2020/
More chaff.
Since you are not clearly communicating what that is supposed to mean, I will make an educated guess that this is supposed to be evidence that important things are being hidden from us.
For sure sealed indictments have a lot of that going on.
But then, the problem comes from the fact that a sealed indictment, by definition, often has information that we will probably never.......it allows for wild, unsubstantiated speculation about that indictment.
It means that often don't have the rock solid facts to prove...........or disprove the speculation. They are sealed, right?
And when something is sealed, so that others cannot know about it, it's extraordinarily easy to convince others that there is some sort of diabolical secret that is being hidden to protect the evil people who sealed the documents.
Yes, there are some of them that likely would qualify for that.
Which ones?
That's the thing. We can't know because the information to tell us that is deficient. Seems to me that in many cases, lack of information/facts is used to the advantage of the person who is trying to convince others that something nefarious has taken place.
Without the facts to prove them wrong.......................their theories go unchallenged.
The facts are sealed right?
That can only mean that the facts must have confirmed something bad happening that must be hidden.
It does mean that sometimes............but at other times, it leads to absurd unsubstantiated assertions of dastardly crimes conjured up creatively in peoples minds in what often is pretty obviously fraudulent to those that use an objective, well developed bs meter in vetting authentic facts vs fake news and using critical thinking/common sense vs believing in conspiracy theories.
The worst part about this realm is that we can no longer trust the sources of our news.
Unlike 30 years ago, when the internet did not exist and our main news sources were professional journalists objectively REPORTING the news, today that field is dominated by progressive activists that INTERPRET the news for us..............tell it so that it lines up with THEIR belief system.
Social media is almost entirely that. People trying to convince you of their positions, which is often the polar opposite of the positions of somebody else. They both can sound extremely convincing. 1 might be right, the other completely wrong. Or the truth might be in the middle.
Which one to believe? The one that lines up with what we think that we already know............stored as knowledge to reinforce what we thing that we know, so that the next piece of information on that topic, even if its propaganda will be more readily accepted into a brain that is easy to manipulate because of cognitive bias.
I may be the only person here with any personal experience with Mike Pence. Have know him for decades. His wife Linda taught at our local grade school for years. Mike Pence, put plainly because he is plain, is the straightest, most honest person I know in government. He and Mitch Daniels took Indiana and made it what the remainder of the Midwest yearn to be. You could literally trust Pence with holding your change while you went to the restroom. You could trust him to walk your grandma across the street even if the Hells Angels threatened while doing so. He loves this country way more than the libs hate it and want to change it. There is not one ounce of fear in Pences's heart about doing the right thing. It comes as natural to him ad lying comes to Hillary.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/29/health/us-coronavirus-saturday/index.html
Coronavirus loony panic
Started by metmike - Feb. 29, 2020, 11:55 a.m.