Using statistics to lie and smear cops
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Started by metmike - June 12, 2020, 7:48 p.m.

As a scientist with some statistics training its great fun to do research and put data together in meaningful fashion.

It's also clear to me when doing this, when an article/person intentionally distorts  statistics to tell a lie.

I'll show you what I mean below

This is misleading below and I explain why below that!


https://www.statista.com/chart/21872/map-of-police-violence-against-black-americans/

Infographic: Black Americans 2.5X More Likely Than Whites to Be Killed By Police | Statista

                                  

Metmike: Wow, that looks like some compelling evidence of racial bias by police killing so many more blacks.

But it's complete bullsheet!

Opinion: Black Lives Matter rhetoric doesn’t match facts on police violence


            https://www.houmatoday.com/opinion/20200610/opinion-black-lives-matter-rhetoric-doesnt-match-facts-on-police-violence     

"But critics say the Post and other media outlets promoting the “racist cops” narrative are misreading the numbers. For example, it’s frequently reported that 23 percent of those shot and killed by police are black, but black Americans only make up 13 percent of the population.

However, it’s also true that, as Heather Mac Donald reports, African Americans make up 53 percent of known homicide offenders and commit about 60 percent of robberies."

metmike: OK all you non math majors and especially those that think cops are more likely to kill a man that's black lets show you why the authentic statistics shows the complete opposite:

It doesn't matter what % of the population is black..........it's what % of the crimes they commit that matters. How many encounters with cops are with whites and how many with blacks(the law abiding citizens don't matter because cops are not breaking down doors and shooting non criminals).

So blacks are committing violent crime at a much higher rate than there 13% population should.  At 53% of violent crime(more than 4 times the rate for whites because blacks are only 13% of the population.........they should only be committing 13% of the violent crime, for instance).

When you use that authentic number to judge cop shootings by race with, 53% of violent crime committed by blacks but only 23% of the deaths from cops shootings being black, you come up with the REAL world rate of whites being more than twice as likely to be killed by a cop for any encounter and for all encounters based on actual encounters with cops. 

The complete opposite of the lie which you are being brainwashed with.

Life experiences tell me that when entities intentionally lie to you about things, its because they know the truth does not support their position. The person that put together the first article and graph spend a great deal of time to do so. They absolutely know it tells a big fat lie. 

So is it justified because of their position to obtain racial equality and justice? 

I believe strongly in the exact same principle and support this cause. I went to a protest last week in my town.  I believe there has been too much racism in police departments(which is being addressed effectively right now). 

However, it is totally unethical to lie like this and try to assassinate the character of hundreds of thousands of great cops in this country for your cause. 

Even worse, you are totally screwing the people you claim to be helping. Focusing all the attention, resources and actions on something that is very minor at the expense of focusing on the REAL problem that needs fixing so that blacks can participate fully in the entire American dream.  

These are the REAL problems we need to change.

1. The excessively high crime rate by young black males that is resulting in many of them being in prison besides the counterproductive life style this causes when they are free.

2. The lower employment historically by young black males. High unemployment = High crime rates

3. The crummy education, especially to blacks who come out of the inner cities. Less young black males getting higher educations. 

4. The lack of participation in black families by men. This is the key. Black boys growing up need positive role models. Women raising families need assistance from dependable husbands.

Cops are not causing 1 iota of those problems......the ones that MUST be addressed to make this better.  In fact, their objective, to defeat criminals in the inner cities is making those communities safer for the vast majority of blacks who want a better life using the system............if we can just fix the system!

I'll repeat some of my ideas on the next page. 

        

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By metmike - June 12, 2020, 7:56 p.m.
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                minneapolis planning to disband the police            

                                 https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/53339/#53388


Young black males commit violent crimes at a rate(in the study that I sourced a couple of year ago) 6 times higher than young white males. Being raised without a good male role model has alot to do with that. Would taking away welfare cause young black men to suddenly metamorphose into responsible fathers and husbands?

Maybe you think that young black women would stop having sexual relationships or use better protection if there was no welfare. 

Turns out that black women actually abort more babies than they raise in many big cities and many of them raise those children without husbands. If they are having those children because it gets them welfare, then we must assume that no welfare would result in a higher black abortion rate.

The welfare system is not the main problem in this case. Changing the culture requires outside help. These people on welfare and in the inner cities that were raised by single parents(moms) or in dysfunctional families, don't have the understanding or blue prints to know how to be good parents(especially the men) or how to be successful in life. 

There has to be something that interrupts the repeating, viscous cycle via the education system or thru local organizations that connect with vulnerable children, starting at young age to teach them. 

I strongly believe that good parenting classes in high school should be mandatory, especially in low income areas with single parent families. Can you teach love? This is not about religion but that's exactly what the 4 Gospels of Jesus did. .....and its blossomed into Christianity that has profoundly changed the world for the much better. What I'm suggesting is ethics classes combined with parenting classes.  The principles go hand in hand.  Teach children to respect others, the value of human life and what a good parent and spouse should be doing in a successful relationship. Have people in their community(ideally from their neighborhood) come in to share their positive experiences as dad's/husbands and mothers/wifes.  

With absolute certainty, this would have a profoundly positive affect on many children in dysfunctional families. 

https://education.seattlepi.com/would-mandatory-parenting-classes-schools-good-idea-1803.html

Teaching  at school can only do so much. What happens when they leave school to a bad neighborhood with a bad parent(s)?

A high % of bad black fathers are in prison. This is another topic altogether but it's another golden opportunity for other men, regardless of color to step forward and be mentors, role models or good examples. This is absolutely realistic.

How would that work? First you identify the men. Many will be from the suburbs, many, will be older and will have already raised their own children successfully. Some will be very young and want to have a family but haven't found the right partner yet.  I have recruited men like this to be my basketball, soccer and baseball coaches(mostly the younger ones for sports). If you offered money, you will get more than just volunteers but most people like this don't do it for money. There needs to be screening, background checks and child protection classes to avoid predators/pedophiles that will weasel into programs like this to abuse boys. 

Men, filling in as a positive father figures/ideally foster parents(even if they are paid) will and do make a difference in most of these boys lives. The younger the child, the better chance to connect with them before the bad things in the world surrounding them define who they are:

https://www.fosterfocusmag.com/articles/just-foster-dads-part-1

Forget about the welfare or no welfare issue or government, no government's role. Either situation is a recipe for failure if you don't have responsible adults that understand what it takes to be good parents applying their love and skills to the at risk, vulnerable children.

Most parents and spouses learned about parenting/married life from being their parents children. 

We spend billions of dollars on the education system but fail to educate and prepare children for the most important role they will ever have as adults. 

If these are such great idea's why aren't are paid politicians and government on to it?

Our politicians and government don't work for us much of the time and their ideas are usually not creative unless it ties in with something that will help them get elected........promises to give people things like reparations for blacks or free health care or free college. ....or to save the planet(sorry if that offends anybody from one party-but if you look at my belief system today,  its the one that defined the democrats from the old days-which included me). 

Being a good parent(and citizen) is several orders of magnitude more important to individuals/families and society than actions to address a fake climate crisis........even if there was a climate crisis. "


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Another thing that would help that is not being discussed, to go along with better training of cops(that HAS been happening and HAS been effective already across the nation) is to encourage them to be more of a part of positive endeavors in the black communities that they enforce laws in.

The benefits are 2 fold. The more officers that you have coming to local schools for instance, to interact in a positive way with students, the more trust that you will build in them. They ARE good people. This is being done in most communities already but there is usually a designated "Officer Friendly" and just 1 or 2 people that go to all the schools. 

Most of the other cops are out there battling crime. They get bombarded all day long with real life negative experiences with criminals. After awhile, human nature, common sense/analytical thinking and street smarts working together create a cognitive bias in them...........stereotyping young black males. This leads to profiling. It can lead to them disrespecting a group that shows the most disrespect to them. The training they receive has to overcome human nature on their part which is telling their brains to judge the people based on their observations.

This can be offset when officers establish relationships and involvement in those same communities with the vast majority of  blacks who are upstanding citizens. This can help balance their view.............to connect with the good side in a personal way and not always just the bad side. Have cops spend a few days in a positive environment with good people in the same community to balance all the negatives.

How about you and me try to imagine the life of an inner city cop, where violent crime is rampant and they are constantly risking their lives to arrest violent criminals who often resist physically and very often are verbally abusive. Of course that's their job. They signed up for that and know what they are getting and should be prepared for it, right?

Still, they are human beings..........almost every one of them good human beings and very few of them racist  but more, them being affected by the challenging environments they work in. 


By metmike - June 12, 2020, 8:13 p.m.
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So let's say that we created a perfect world with perfect cops...........or in some people's current version of a perfect world........no cops.

What would life be for blacks:

1. Would they commit less violent crime?

2. Would they be getting better educations

3. Would they be/have better role models?

4. Would they be better fathers or husbands?

5. Would they have more jobs?

At best, it would result in less blacks being arrested and going to prison for crimes committed.........but MORE crimes actually committed. That would end up being very bad for all black communities.  

So perfect cops, basically are those that would arrest criminals and give them total respect as they are arrested and sent to jail. Then, they would get fair justice by the system for their crimes.

How wonderful the world would be for them...........to know that they were treated with racial and social fairness/justice..........as they rot in prison for their crimes.


WRONG!

The attacks on cops right now are also profoundly  wrong and counterproductive and being used as a political tool. 

Even if you hate President Trump..........you know this is true.

I am wide open for comments that disagree.


Again, my position includes........ continuing to improve training of cops and 100% accountability that includes body cams being mandatory. No special treatment or coverups. Complete transparency for all incidents. Regular performance evaluations to weed out bad cops.

Since almost all of them now are good cops and will meet these standards and don't object, then why are we for "defunding the police" who consist of 99% good people, making the world better and safer almost all of the time?

Politics and a fake reality using them as the targets.




By metmike - June 12, 2020, 8:21 p.m.
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For an actual peer review study on this topic in the state of Minnesota, that has the highest rate of arrests of young black males vs whites(21 times higher):

African American Males in the  Criminal Justice System

https://www.prisonpolicy.org/scans/ccj/African%20American%20Males.pdf


 "The focus is on males, 18 to 30 years old who are arrested, convicted, and sentenced in Hennepin County District Court.  Data on arrests are from the Minneapolis Police Department and the Bureau of Criminal Apprehension (BCA).  Data on jail bookings were obtained from the Hennepin County Sheriff.  Data on court dispositions and sentences were provided by Hennepin County District Court."  

"Compared to other states, Minnesota has the greatest black-to-white disparity in imprisonment rates.  In 1997, the most recent year for which state-by-state data are available, the ratio of African Americans to whites in state prison was 25.09 to 1.  This is the highest ratio of all states.  In 2000, 37.2% of the state’s prisoners were African American.  By comparison only 3.5% of the population of Minnesota was African American. The disparities are not limited to the “back end” of the criminal justice system.  For violent offenses, the arrest rate of African Americans in 1999 was 1,621 per 100,000.  The comparable arrest rate for whites was 76 per 100,000 resulting in African Americans being 21 times more likely to be arrested for violent crimes than whites.   In Hennepin County in 1999, African Americans represented over half (51.5%) of the arrests for violent crimes1 and whites represented 29.5% of violent crime arrests.  Of all counties in Minnesota only Ramsey County was higher in the percentage of African Americans arrested for violent crimes (52.9%).  African Americans accounted for a smaller percentage of arrests for property crimes (33.3%) than whites (40%).  The percentage of African Americans arrested for violations of narcotic drug laws was twice as high as the percentage of whites arrested, 58.7% compared to 30%."

metmike: With regards to violent crimes, that arrest rate of 21 times greater is not so extreme because cops are making up rapes, and murders and armed robberies that young black men did not commit. That astronomical rate is so high, mostly because young black men are commiting violent crimes close to 21 times higher than whites. Wow, this is stunning. This is real data from the real world that cops live in.

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Here is a surprise:  When it comes to being charged with a crime, white men were more likely to be found guilty than black men for the same crime. In the 16 categories below, white men were found guilty more often in 12 of those categories.

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However, when it came to sentencing, above, black men got a longer sentence than white men in 12 out of the 16 categories below. With blacks being charged with violent crimes at an incredible  21 times higher, we should assume that many of these sentences for blacks are REPEAT offenses/convictions which would result in tougher sentences. 

                                    


         From this link:

                George Floyd's murder            

                            44 responses |                

                Started by metmike - May 27, 2020, 9:17 p.m.            

  https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/52890/

                

By metmike - June 12, 2020, 8:22 p.m.
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Police kill more whites than blacks, but minority deaths generate more outrage

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/apr/21/police-kill-more-whites-than-blacks-but-minority-d/

Analysis contradicts widespread views about racial targets

“If one adjusts for the racial disparity in the homicide rate or the rate at which police are feloniously killed, whites are actually more likely to be killed by police than blacks,” said Mr. Moskos, a former Baltimore cop and author of the book “Cop in the Hood.”

                                         

“Adjusted for the homicide rate, whites are 1.7 times more likely than blacks die at the hands of police,” he said. “Adjusted for the racial disparity at which police are feloniously killed, whites are 1.3 times more likely than blacks to die at the hands of police.”

                                          

Mr. Moskos listed two possible reasons for the racial disparity. The first is that police assigned to largely black neighborhoods face “more political fallout when they shoot, and thus receive better training and are less inclined to shoot.”

                                        

The second is that police assigned to black communities with high crime rates are more accustomed to dangerous situations and thus are more likely to be able to resolve them without resort to lethal force.

By metmike - June 13, 2020, 2:21 a.m.
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Cops and Children: Why Police Officers are Stationed at Elementary Schools

https://www.publicschoolreview.com/blog/cops-and-children-why-police-officers-are-stationed-at-elementary-schools

"Learn about the growing trend of stationing police officers at elementary schools and the benefits of establishing a legal environment on campus at a young age.

   Police officers are commonly seen in high schools and many middle schools, but is the trend now spreading to our public elementary schools?  Indeed, some school and police leaders are working to increase the number of officer positions in public schools—regardless of the age range of the school’s students. Increasing Police Presence in Public Schools While the title “school resource officer” may sound unfamiliar to those who graduated from high school more than 10 years ago, positions for police officers in schools are quite commonplace today.  As All Academic explains, School Resource Officers (SROs) have been appearing in schools across the country at steadily rising rates in recent years.  Ideally, the SROs are available to help provide leadership examples for all students on campus; however, their influence in the schools can certainly have an impact that extends beyond these intentions.   SROs are usually hired and paid by the local police force (not by the local schools), and subsequently, many believe that “The presence of these officers shapes the school social climate and students’ legal socialization.”  Interestingly, however, some high schools have reported an increase in student misbehaviors after officers have been assigned to the campus.  Subsequently, many elementary school leaders are experimenting with SROs in the hopes that “legal socialization” at an early age can help prevent behavior problems in the middle and high school years.  These proponents believe that teaching elementary students the benefits of law enforcement professionals will translate into positive attitudes towards SROs during adolescence and adulthood."


By metmike - June 13, 2020, 2:25 a.m.
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The End of Police in Schools

As demonstrations over the death of George Floyd spread across the country, school districts are reevaluating the use of resource officers.

https://www.usnews.com/news/the-report/articles/2020-06-12/schools-districts-end-contracts-with-police-amid-ongoing-protests

Denver Public Schools became the third school district in two weeks to sever a million-dollar contract with its city's police department to remove officers from schools – a move that at least a dozen other school districts are considering following the death of George Floyd in police custody and the subsequent chorus of ongoing country-wide protests over police violence against black people.

"This topic is not new or knee jerk," said Jennifer Bacon, vice president of Denver's Board of Education. "People have been calling for it to end for a long time."

"It took eight minutes and 46 seconds to say we are going to do these things," she said referencing the amount of time the police officer knelt on Floyd's neck according to videos. 


More U.S. Cities Debate Defunding the Police ]

In Denver, as in most other school districts that partner with police departments to provide security, black and Hispanic students face disproportionately high rates of discipline and referrals to the juvenile justice system. 

During the 2018-19 school year, for example, 29% of referrals to law enforcement were for black students, despite black students accounting for only 13% of the district's student population, according to the Advancement Project. And from 2014 through 2019, there were 4,540 police tickets and arrests of students within Denver schools – 87% of them students of color.

Denver is just the latest in a series of districts to make this decision. 

Minneapolis Public Schools ended its decades-long partnership with the city's police department last week – a unanimous vote from the school board following the death of Floyd. 


By metmike - June 13, 2020, 1:15 p.m.
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                Bill to remove Confederate statues from Capitol            

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/53696/

The Protests Come for ‘Paw Patrol’

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/10/arts/television/protests-fictional-cops.html

A backlash is mounting against depictions of “good cops,” on television and in the street.

Chase is on the case in “Paw Patrol,” but as protests against racist police violence reach their third week, criticism of fictional cops is growing, too.Credit...Elevation Pictures


It was only a matter of time before the protests came for “Paw Patrol.”

“Paw Patrol” is a children’s cartoon about a squad of canine helpers. It is basically a pretense for placing household pets in a variety of cool trucks. The team includes Marshall, a firefighting Dalmatian; Rubble, a bulldog construction worker; and Chase, a German shepherd who is also a cop. In the world of “Paw Patrol,” Chase is drawn to be a very good boy who barks stuff like “Chase is on the case!” and “All in a police pup’s day!” as he rescues kittens in his tricked-out S.U.V.

But last week, when the show’s official Twitter account put out a bland call for “Black voices to be heard,” commenters came after Chase. “Euthanize the police dog,” they said. “Defund the paw patrol.” “All dogs go to heaven, except the class traitors in the Paw Patrol.”

It’s a joke, but it’s also not. As the protests against racist police violence enter their third week, the charges are mounting against fictional cops, too. Even big-hearted cartoon police dogs — or maybe especially big-hearted cartoon police dogs — are on notice. The effort to publicize police brutality also means banishing the good-cop archetype, which reigns on both television and in viral videos of the protests themselves. “Paw Patrol” seems harmless enough, and that’s the point: The movement rests on understanding that cops do plenty of harm.

The protests arrived in the midst of a pandemic that has alienated Americans from their social ties, family lives and workplaces. New and intense relationships with content have filled the gap, and now our quarantine consumptions are being reviewed with an urgently political eye. The reckoning has come for newspapers, food magazines, Bravo reality shows and police procedurals.

Last week, Tom Scharpling, an executive producer of “Monk,” criticized his own show on Twitter: “If you — as I have — worked on a TV show or movie in which police are portrayed as lovable goofballs, you have contributed to the larger acceptance that cops are implicitly the good guys.” Griffin Newman, an actor who appeared in two episodes of “Blue Bloods” as a detective, donated his $11,000 in earnings to a bail fund, inspiring other actorswho have played copsto do the same. LEGO has halted marketing on its “LEGO City Police Station” and “Police Highway Arrest” sets. A&E has pulled its reality show “Live PD” from the schedule. On Tuesday night, “Cops,” the show that branded suspects as “bad boys” and spawned the whole genre of crime reality television, was canceled after 32 seasons.

Cops are not just television stars; they are television’s biggest stars. Crime shows are TV’s most popular genre, now making up more than 60 percent of prime-time drama programming on the big four broadcast networks. The tropes of the genre are so predictable that a whole workplace sitcom, “Brooklyn Nine-Nine,” is layered atop them. “A police station was a shortcut,” Dan Goor, the show’s co-creator, has said, “because people are very aware of how police television works. You know instantly who the good guys are and who the bad guys are.”


metmike: This is an outrage. Taking all the police shows depicting cops as good guys off the air, so we don't see them that way.

They are intentionally smearing an entire profession of tens of thousands, almost all good and almost always doing things that benefit society.......for a political agenda."

By metmike - June 13, 2020, 1:30 p.m.
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Cops' TV show canceled as police propaganda loses shine after George Floyd

“Cops” marked a turning point in pop culture’s representation and relationship with American police. It won't be missed.

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/cops-tv-show-canceled-amid-george-floyd-defund-police-about-ncna1229316

"In the aftermath of yet another viral video showing a Black man’s murderat the hands of a systemically racist, broken police force, America’s longest-running source of pro-police propaganda was unceremoniously yanked from scheduling. After 32 seasons — over a thousand syndicated episodes adding up to over three decades’ worth of nearly uninterrupted availability — Spike TV, current home of the landmark “reality” show “Cops,” announced the show’s hiatus would become permanent.

Showrunners for "Cops" maintained that their goal was depicting the “real men and women of law enforcement,” while in actuality offering a heavily edited dramatization.

For decades, showrunners for "Cops" maintained that their goal was depicting the “real men and women of law enforcement,” while in actuality offering a carefully crafted, heavily edited dramatization of a mythic struggle against the urban anarchy threatening to storm suburbia’s gates. It will not be missed."

metmike: Yeah, we all know that most police officers in the real world are actually incompetent, racist leaning, overly aggressive people who signed up to legally abuse and hurt people with impunity and rarely do anything good )-:

By metmike - June 13, 2020, 1:38 p.m.
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So now that the MSM and democrats have gotten control of the narrative that cops are bad, we have defunding them and even killing them on the menu in the minds of the brainwashed.


California deputy shot in ‘ambush’ attack at police station

https://www.actionnewsnow.com/content/news/California-deputy-shot-in-ambush-attack-at-police-station-571173311.html


PASO ROBLES, Calif. (AP) — A central California sheriff's deputy was shot in the head early Wednesday in an “ambush” attack by a gunman intent on harming or killing police, authorities said.

 It follows two recent deadly shootings targeting officers in California."


Small-town police chief killed as officers in 3 cities wounded during violence at George Floyd protests


https://abcnews.go.com/US/small-town-police-chief-killed-officers-cities-wounded/story?id=71017820

By metmike - June 13, 2020, 1:40 p.m.
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By metmike - June 14, 2020, 11:21 p.m.
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Here's another good example of the biased media trying to play and sensationalize the race card and use it vilify cops with fake news/stats. They can't  possibly not realize they were doing it:

Report: 75% of Chicago Curfew Violation Arrestees Were Black

https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/report-75-of-chicago-curfew-violation-arrestees-were-black/2289656/

"Black people made up 75% of those arrested in Chicago for alleged violations of a curfew imposed during demonstrations following George Floyd's death, according to a newspaper report Sunday. 

The Chicago Sun-Times analyzed data, obtained through an information request, for the first five days of a curfew imposed May 30 and lifted June 7. The newspaper found 329 of the 440 people arrested were identified as African American.

The racial disparity in Chicago, where black people are roughly 30% of the population, drew criticism from the American Civil Liberties Union of Illinois."

"Colleen Connell, the group's executive director, called it “infuriating” considering “the catalyst" for the and the long history of discriminatory treatment of black people in Chicago. 

“The curfew basically gave the Chicago Police Department carte blanche to continue over-policing people of color,” Connell said."

metmike: They are trying to tell us that if the cops were not racist, then only 30% of those arrested at the protests would be black because only 30% of the people living in the city are black.

DUH! The cops didn't arrest people at a White Sox or Bulls game, they were arresting people violating curfew at demonstrations for  black man, George Floyd's death. How could they possibly think that the same ratio of whites and blacks that live in the city would be at these protests. Anybody with eyes and a  few brain cells can see  that this cause for black justice and equality is attracting a higher ratio of blacks, then the 12% of the general population they represent in this country and higher than the 30% they represent in Chicago.

Of course the arrests in Chicago breaking curfew will be more than the 30% that live in the entire city because the vast majority at the protests.........WERE BLACK!


 From the story: "Police spokesman Thomas Ahern said the department’s curfew enforcement “was universal, regardless of race or neighborhood.” He said “any enforcement was undertaken for the protection and safety of all residents.”

By metmike - June 15, 2020, 1:09 p.m.
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Rolling Stone writer says Law & Order should be cancelled because of its positive portrayal of cops as Amazon considers removing the Dukes of Hazzard because of its use of Confederate flags

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8416575/Rolling-Stone-says-Law-Order-cancelled-Amazon-considers-dropping-Dukes-Hazzard.html

  • Rolling Stone writer EJ Dickson writes that the last remaining Law & Order program should be cancelled because of Olivia Benson's model police character
  • Mariska Hargitay, 52, has played the part of Captain Benson on Special Victims Unit for 21 seasons on the NBC network
  • Meanwhile, Amazon's Prime video streaming service is considering dropping the Dukes of Hazzard over its use of Confederate flags on the program
  • The show, a hit in the 1970s and 1980s, prominently features one of the flags on the roof of its iconic General Lee car

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Sorry, Olivia Benson Is Canceled Too

 

The Law and Order: SVU protagonist gets lionized as a TV “good cop.” That does real-world damage

https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/olivia-benson-svu-mariska-hargitay-canceled-cops-1014181/

By metmike - June 17, 2020, 12:56 a.m.
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A report by Harvard’s Roland Fryer shows that when the cops pull back, homicides increase.

https://www.manhattan-institute.org/good-policing-saves-black-lives

"In 2016 Mr. Fryer released a study of racial differences in police use of deadly force. To the surprise of the author, as well as many in the media and on the left who take racist law enforcement as a given, he found no evidence of bias in police shootings. His conclusions have been echoed by researchers at the University of Maryland and Michigan State University, who in a paper released last year wrote: “We didn’t find evidence for anti-Black or anti-Hispanic disparity in police use of force across all shootings, and, if anything, found anti-White disparities when controlling for race-specific crime.”


NBER WORKING PAPER SERIES AN EMPIRICAL ANALYSIS OF RACIAL DIFFERENCES IN POLICE USE OF FORCE

https://www.nber.org/papers/w22399.pdf

ABSTRACT:  This paper explores racial differences in police use of force. On non-lethal uses of force, blacks and Hispanics  are  more  than  fifty  percent  more  likely  to  experience  some  form  of  force  in interactions with police(often related to resisting arrest) . Adding controls that account for important context and civilian behavior reduces,  but cannot  fully  explain,  these  disparities.  On  the  most  extreme  use  of  force  –  officer-involved  shootings–we  find  no  racial  differences  in  either  the  raw  data  or  when  contextual factors are taken into account.We argue that the patterns in the data are consistent with a model in  which  police  officers  are  utility maximizers,  a  fraction  of  which  have  a  preference  for discrimination, who incur relatively high expected costs of officer-involved shootings.  Roland G. Fryer


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Officer  characteristics and racial disparities in fatal officer-involved shootings

https://www.pnas.org/content/pnas/early/2019/07/16/1903856116.full.pdf

"We  find  no  evidence  of  anti-Black  or  anti-Hispanic  dispari-ties across shootings, and White officers are not more likely to  shoot  minority  civilians  than  non-White  officers.  Instead,race-specific crime strongly predicts civilian race. This suggests that increasing diversity among officers by itself is unlikely to reduce racial disparity in police shootings"

By metmike - June 17, 2020, 9:10 p.m.
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This was just from the early days of the protests, numbers since then have more than doubled, with 800 cops injured.

More than 400 law enforcement officers injured in riots across U.S., 2 dead

https://www.cullmantribune.com/2020/06/06/more-than-400-law-enforcement-officers-injured-in-riots-across-u-s-2-dead/

UNITED STATES – The riots that have followed many peaceful protests across the country over the last several days have resulted in millions of dollars in damage and more than 9,000 arrests. They have also led to the deaths of at least two law enforcement officers and injuries to more than 400 others


By metmike - June 22, 2020, 11:32 a.m.
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I was wrong about the number of injuries to police in the previous post. It's MUCH higher than that, clearly well over 1,000 cops have been injured this month in the places where the protests have turned violent.

Protestors have been injured too but it seems clear, almost every injury of a protestor occurred during violent or resisting protesters. The old man in Buffalo was bad and an exception and you saw the zillion replays. If that  truly represented what was going on, then why, with hundreds of thousands of phone camera's at these events all over the country, are we not seeing more of it? When you have 1 or a few isolated bad incidents out of thousands...........that's all we see.............played over and over and burned into everybody's brains.

That said, I think the use of police force that includes rubber bullets, which CAN injure needs to be re evaluated.

There are too many articles and I don't have enough time but here are a couple.


There have also been shootings of cops and a couple of deaths.

https://nypost.com/2020/06/08/more-than-700-officers-injured-in-george-floyd-protests-across-us/

https://www.10tv.com/article/news/local/columbus-police-meet-protesters-near-statehouse/530-83dbd60d-20fa-4d09-be9b-b6008be168c0


The bottom line though, is the fact that violent protesting is COUNTER productive. We know that based on history. We know that based on common sense(you don't win favor or change things for a cause of stopping violence by increasing the violence that you claim to be against-you just look like blatant hypocrites to anybody outside of your movement). We know that because the most effective civil rights protestor on the planet,MLK NEVER used violence 1 time and preached against it. 

Martin Luther King Jr.: 8 peaceful protests that bolstered civil rights

https://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2012/0115/Martin-Luther-King-Jr.-8-peaceful-protests-that-bolstered-civil-rights/Montgomery-bus-boycott-1955-56


This day in history March 25, 2020-MLK/Selma March            

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                Started by metmike - March 25, 2020, 12:5 a.m.            

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/49475/

By metmike - June 22, 2020, 11:33 a.m.
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Dr King Quote "Love is the only force capable of transforming an enemy into friend"


By metmike - June 22, 2020, 8:59 p.m.
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 National Center for Fathering  

The Extent of Fatherlessness

More than 20 million children live in a home without the physical presence of a father.  Millions more have dads who are physically present, but emotionally absent.  If it were classified as a disease, fatherlessness would be an epidemic worthy of attention as a national emergency.

http://fathers.com/statistics-and-research/the-extent-of-fatherlessness/

Children Living with Mother Only-bwh graph

By metmike - June 22, 2020, 9:07 p.m.
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African-American family structure

 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African-American_family_structure


 

Out of wedlock birth rates by race in the United States from 1940-2014. Rate for African Americans is the purple line. Data is from the National Vital Statistics System Reports published by the CDCNational Center for Health Statistics. Note: Prior to 1969, African American illegitimacy was included along with other minority groups as "Non-White."[1][2][3][4][5][6][7][8][9][10][11][12][13][14][15][16][17]

By metmike - June 22, 2020, 9:17 p.m.
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                Crime surges in NYC from defunding cops-dugh!            

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                Started by metmike - June 20, 2020, 12:17 p.m.      

      https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/54211/