Does it matter if the free money is 600 or 2000, do you think this money will do any good
Or does this lead to socialism
Given Biden's plans for spending, where does the deficit end ?? Or does the deficit really matter
What about trade deficits. China can't get enough containers to ship stuff, mostly to the USA
Costco and some body else reported supply chains disrupted, resulting in temporary shortages
So americians seem to want to spend
Low income will appreciate the money but we know the rent and mortgage problem will not be solved with free money
Is there any money to put americians back to work
The unemployment situation is the biggest problem
If congress had figured out a way for people to work, then most people can look after them selves. But with lock downs, so many have been put in a position of debt that 2000 will not fix
Instead of tax breaks for race horse owners or money for foreign countries for projects that make no sense, simply open up the economy and let business go to work
But Biden is warning of more dark days ahead, plus Green Deal or climate spending he has already committed to doing, don't you think the economy stays shut down, the deficit goes much higher???
How long before the USA is socialist
And Canada was once considered socialist
I think we are both socialist and the vaccine will not get us back to normal pre covid
The damage has already been done [Joe"s dark days is no joke, it will be dark days for sure] and let's hope the currency retains value or we are completely messed up
"How long before the USA is socialist"
Wayne,
That's the right question to ask.
Not, if but.............when???
The cultural revolution has already started. The biggest reaction against Trump came from some of the biggest advocates that are gaining growing power. Trump just brought them out this year, with a combination of factors also contributing(the George Floyd murder/COVID).
Sometimes its hard to see the forest because of the trees.
Destroying statutes and monuments and reminders of this (evil) culture.
Greta the Marxist, being named Time person of year in 2019, absurdly, for filling our young people heads with complete make up things about the current climate optimum to scare the crap out of them in order to indoctrinate them in to the climate crisis religion................which is nothing buy Global Socialism.
The Climate Accord has nothing to do with the Climate.
This will continue to march forward with the absolute certainty of...............old people die and are replaced by younger people
Unless you can bring back dead people from the grave, this will not be reversed. We have mostly old conservatives here, some very conservatives that want to believe this.
But there is no way to stop it. The train has already left the station. Biden is jumping on the Climate Accord Train of Global Socialism and his Biden Plan(Green New Deal) will accelerate the US in that direction.
This is how the REAL climate Accord is going to work:
Rich countries all give up money and cut CO2 emissions(to save the planet)
Poor countries all get the money and increase CO2 emissions more than the cuts of rich countries(to wreck the planet).
End result?
Rich countries give money to poor countries and their economic models shift from high natural resource consuming capitalism to controlled, lower natural resource consuming "Sustainable Development".
I am as certain of this as I am anything.
See more details on it at this thread:
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/62460/
Again, I am as certain of this as I am anything and have been posting all the evidence for the last couple of years. This idea/plan in the Climate Accord would not sell to alot of people but who can be against "SAVING THE PLANET"....which is just a ruse for the REAL plan.
I have been watching it happen and progress for 2 decades during this current climate optimum, thanks to the best weather/climate for life in at least 1,000 years, while completely beneficial increasing CO2 gets labelled as POLLUTION. We have less than half the optimal CO2 in the atmosphere for life on this planet.
They have already accomplished the hardest part, convincing the young people to follow this and to get global support for the Climate Accord. Once you convince somebody of something, even if its completely bogus, it can take 20 times more information about the truth to get them to see the truth and very frequently, no amount of information will be enough for them to overcome their overpowering cognitive bias.
Optimal CO2 for life more than double current level
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Started by metmike - Dec. 15, 2020, 8:03 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/62784/
What the "Climate Crisis" is really all about: Greta Thunberg is a Marxist. Climate religion(fake climate emergency) and the propaganda is all about converting us to global socialism. December 2019
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/43757/
Teen Climate Activist Speaks To Congress: Blatant scientific fraudulence and child abuse used as the latest scheme to push the extreme propaganda. September 2019
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/39525/
Ex-KGB on Ideological Subversion: How the UN/IPCC hijacked science/brainwashed the world. Previously warmer. Polar bear hoax. Sept. 2019
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/38156/
Want to hear a rich genius talk blatant, anti science ignorance? Bill Gates gets an F in science. Radical left has taken over teaching at almost every college. More on brainwashing. AOC and her climate religion cult. They use scary words but no data because the data shows them wrong. I show the data. November 2019
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/42610/
Sanders Touts $16 Trillion Climate Plan: Anti Science Bernie = the complete opposite of the truth! August 2019
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/37437/
metmike: These scientists and this message has been effectively censored.
Scientists coming out of the woodwork-no climate crisis! October 2019
You are correct about your statement that I will put in my own words to simplify
Once you are convinced nothing will change your mind even if it is 20 times the evidence
I had a debate in the local coffee shop about climate
It ended by accusing deniers of burning down the Amazon forest. Of coarse people are burning but are the deniers doing the burning. The argument was if no damage done to the climate by those who burn then those who burn must be deniers
This is how some use some truth to sell the climate crisis. The ocean is rising. Well how much. Makes no difference, how much will it rise in 5 yrs if it rose a centimeter for each of 20 yrs. then it could rise much faster in the next 20 yrs and the coast will be flooded [I just used an example of the increase]
You simply can't reason with people who think Biden won or Trump lost
Now we find out Fauci was even lying to us
Why would we trust anything coming our of Washington or Ottawa who by the way, Canada has signed on to the Paris accord
That climate money will either come from taxes or printed money neither of which is good for us
But try and convince a climate believer, or an election believer, or??
Oh well I have to rant at something it seems
"But try and convince a climate believer, or an election believer, or??"
Election believers have that opinion based on the facts and evidence. Those skeptical of the election results are basing it on speculation and no facts. When given the opportunity to provide legit evidence/facts, they blew it by presenting too many fake facts. To me, this shows that they were most interested in convincing people that there was fraud, any way possible.
It's worked.
They convinced alot of people that there was fraud WITHOUT showing any real evidence of major widespread fraud.
You know that there is possibly as much ink for or against the election
Some of the arguments I agree with, others not so much
What I don't understand is why there has not been an investigation with people who should know about this stuff. But an investigation seems to not be going to happen
Climate crisis is beginning to get more ink and will probably get more as the tab the western world will have to pay. Get into a person's wallet and questions sprout out of no where. Which may be good for climate people such as your self. Perhaps there is a special tax on pump gas, or the deficit soars due to gov't spending, which we see has already caused some disagreement with this latest spending bill
It's possible that when Biden starts to fund his Green deal the left will pressure for more money
Then the people ask questions and may not forget the next election
A lot could happen the next 4 yrs as it did with Trump I just hope the country can survive when the only way to get things done Biden's way is to run the printing press
If the deficit ever hit's 30 trillion which is very possible in 4 yrs that should get people's attention in a big way
Can we survive all this spending is my question
My guess is a loss of purchasing power and in a big way