I THANK THE GOOD LORD FOR HEARING OUR PLEAS!!!
R VS W WAS NEVER IN THE CONSTITUTION!!!
No, it wasn't. The 10th amendment clearly delegated it to the states, where it is now.
Even Ruth Bader Ginsberg thought it was a bad ruling, tho she is/was obviously pro-choice.
There is simply no legal/constitutional argument to support it. A text book example of judicial activism at it's worst.
Now we'll see how the "Democracy/Constitution" loving democrats handle it.
what are we worried about? The left only has peaceful protests. Although some videos sure look different.
Two-dozen states and territories would ban abortion immediately, and 13 have “trigger laws” waiting for the ruling.
https://www.nbcnews.com/data-graphics/map-23-states-ban-abortion-post-roe-america-rcna27081
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That map is obviously hyperbole.
Can't speak for all states, I know Ga will not ban abortions outright. They'll shorten the time that most abortions are available.
Here's a different map for you Tim, that lines up more with what you're saying.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trigger_law
A trigger law is a nickname for a law that is unenforceable but may achieve enforceability if a key change in circumstances occurs.
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In the United States, thirteen states, Arkansas, Idaho, Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi, Missouri, North Dakota, Oklahoma,[1] South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas,[2] Utah, and Wyoming,[3] enacted trigger laws that would automatically ban abortion in the first and second trimesters if the landmark case Roe v. Wade were overturned.[4][5][6] As Roe v. Wade was overturned on June 24 2022,[7] these laws are presumably now in effect. Illinois formerly had a trigger law (enacted in 1975) but repealed it in 2017.[8][9][10] Ten states, among them Alabama, Arizona, Michigan, North Carolina,[11][12] West Virginia, and Wisconsin, as well as the already mentioned Arkansas, Mississippi, Oklahoma, and Texas, still have their pre-Roe v. Wade abortion bans on the law books; the law in Texas is permanently enjoined by court order. Those laws are presumably now enforceable since Roe has been overturned. According to a 2019 Contraception Journal study, the reversal of Roe v. Wade and implementation of trigger laws (as well as other states considered highly likely to ban abortion), "increases in travel distance are estimated to prevent 93,546 to 143,561 women from accessing abortion care".[13]
well I happen to agree with old Joe Biden. Abortions should be safe and rare and there is no right to abortion in the constitution......but turns out he was lying once again
I disagree with you Jean
Abortion is legal in Canada
I happen to agree with our country and nobody that I know about seems to give it a second thought. We like our law re: abortion
No 2nd rate unsafe abortions happen in Canada that I know about
We have all heard about the coat hanger thing
What is the difference between safe sex and abortion or the morning after pill
I imagine many Ukrainians who have been raped might want an abortion
In fact if I was a woman who was raped I would like the option of a safe abortion if that was what I wanted
I personally know of several young people in yrs past who were never taught about safe sex, until too late
Today is different but things can and do happen
You want a private visit with your doctor and mom demands to know why
So you postpone your visit with your doctor
Enough said as the examples are endless
"What is the difference between safe sex and abortion or the morning after pill"
Thanks Wayne......I know that was rhetorical and intended in making a statement but let's use it as educational to show the HUGE differences.
https://www.verywellhealth.com/the-morning-after-pill-vs-the-abortion-pill-906574
https://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn/stds-hiv-safer-sex/safer-sex
https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/wellness-and-prevention/safer-sex-guidelines
https://www.abortionno.org/abortion-photos/
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Sorry if these reality pictures offended anybody. One should ask the following question after viewing them.
Are these images parts of a woman's body?
Or, are these images of unborn babies, growing inside of the woman that were eliminated like a malignant tumor?
A malignant tumor, allowed to grow, could kill the woman.
A baby, allowed to grow will soon exit the woman's body on its own and have the chance for a life, just like everybody reading this had.
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When Human Life Begins
https://acpeds.org/position-statements/when-human-life-begins
The American College of Pediatricians concurs with the body of scientific evidence that corroborates that a unique human life starts when the sperm and egg bind to each other in a process of fusion of their respective membranes and a single hybrid cell called a zygote, or one-cell embryo, is created.
As physicians dedicated both to scientific truth and to the Hippocratic tradition, the College values all human lives equally from the moment of conception (fertilization) until natural death. Consistent with its mission to “enable all children to reach their optimal physical and emotional health and well-being,” the College, therefore, opposes active measures23 that would prematurely end the life of any child at any stage of development from conception to natural death.
You didn't mention these terms Wayne but they are also relevant to a comprehensive discussion of what you mentioned and actually 1 million times more effective and less costly(in monetary, resource and ethical costs)
A guest on CNN just made the absurd claim that this could eventually lead to repealing rights on same sex marriage and interracial marriage in this country.
Seriously, she said that.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interracial_marriage_in_the_United_States
Interracial marriage in the United States has been legal throughout the United States since at least the 1967 U.S. Supreme Court (Warren Court) decision Loving v. Virginia (1967) that held that "anti-miscegenation" laws were unconstitutional via the 14th Amendment adopted in 1868.[1][2] Chief Justice Earl Warren wrote in the court opinion that "the freedom to marry, or not marry, a person of another race resides with the individual, and cannot be infringed by the State."[1]
The number of interracial marriages as a proportion of all marriages has been increasing since 1967, so that by 2010 15.1% of all new marriages in the United States were mixed race compared to a low single-digit rate in the mid-20th century. Interracial marriage has continued to rise throughout the 2010s.
Public approval of interracial marriage rose from around 5% in the 1950s to around 80% in the 2000s. The proportion of interracial marriages is markedly different depending on the ethnicity and gender of the spouses.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Same-sex_marriage_in_the_United_States
The availability of legally recognized same-sex marriage in the United States expanded from one state (Massachusetts) in 2004 to all fifty states in 2015 through various court rulings, state legislation, and direct popular votes. States each have separate marriage laws, which must adhere to rulings by the Supreme Court of the United States that recognize marriage as a fundamental right guaranteed by both the Due Process Clause and the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution, as first established in the 1967 landmarkcivil rights case of Loving v. Virginia.
Overturning the right of interracial marriages in the US?
I would put the chances of that at less than 1 in a million. Yet the bs flies from people trying to make an absurd connection to that and this decision to try to scare the crap out of them.
People giving us this bs message have no credibility for me.
https://www.aclu.org/podcast/how-dismantling-roe-puts-interracial-marriage-at-risk
THEY’RE COMING
Here's a picture of the most conservative judge on the Supreme Court, Clarence Thomas with his wife Ginni.
See how dumb their fearmongering is!
On same sex marriage, there's a chance they would overturn the previous landmark decision in 2015 and send it back to the individual states and good chance they could at least discuss it.
Here's how the world sees it:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_status_of_same-sex_marriage
The legal status of same-sex marriage has changed in recent years in numerous jurisdictions around the world. The current trends and consensus of political authorities and religions throughout the world are summarized in this article.
WAYNE, I RESPECT YOUR OPINION ~ JUST AS I DO EVERYONE'S, WHETHER WE AGREE, OR NOT.
IT'S MY BELIEF THAT GOD CREATE'S ALL LIFE, REGARDLESS OF HOW IT OCCURS. I ALSO BELIEVE: A RAPIST SHOULD BE LOCKED UP FOR LIFE AND/OR, LOBOTOMIZED TO ELIMINATE THAT HEINOUS, EVIL DRIVE. THE SAME GOES FOR AN INCEST PREGNANCY. I ALSO BELIEVE THE VICTIM OF THOSE CRIMES, FACES THE BIGGEST TEST OF HER FAITH SHE WILL EVER HAVE IN HER LIFETIME, IF SHE CLAIMS TO BE A CHRISTIAN.
I BELIEVE THE EXCUSE OF: "TO SAVE THE MOTHER, WE'LL KILL THE BABY", IS JUST THAT... AN EXCUSE. I'M LIVING PROOF OF THAT, FROM ALMOST 73 YEARS AGO. MOM HAD A HORRID PREGNANCY WITH ME. (I WAS ONE OF THOSE RARE, 10 MONTH BABIES. MOM WAS IN LABOR, THAT ENTIRE 10TH MONTH.) SHORTLY BEFORE I WAS BORN, THE DOCTOR TOLD MOM IF SHE WENT THROUGH WITH DELIVERY, ONE OF US PROBABLY WOULDN'T SURVIVE. SHE TOLD THEM: "SAVE MY BABY!!", EVEN THOUGH SHE HAD MY TWO OLDER SISTER'S TO RAISE. MY FATHER TOLD THE DOCTOR TO SAVE US BOTH. (IF YOU REMEMBER, MOM DIED IN 2013)
SCIENCE HAS COME A LONNNNNG WAY, IN THE PAST 73 YEARS, IN BEING ABLE TO SAVE PREGNANT WOMEN. HOW MANY WOMEN ACTUALLY DIE, DUE TO A PREGNANCY, OR GIVING BIRTH? I BELIEVE FEWER THAN THE PREGNANT WOMEN WITH CANCER, THAT HANG ON & STOP THEIR CHEMO/RADIATION TREATMENT'S, LONG ENOUGH TO GIVE BIRTH TO THEIR BABY & PRAY THEY SURVIVE LONG ENOUGH TO HOLD THEIR BABY.
MAYBE, THIS WILL CHANGE AT LEAST ONE MIND https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyVvYBo0m5E
IF YOU'RE SIGNED UP ON YOU TUBE, HERE'S ANOTHER THAT HAS CHANGED MANY HEART'S & MINDS.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gON-8PP6zgQ THE SILENT SCREAM
MIKE, THOSE IMAGE'S ARE HEARTBREAKING TO ME & MILLIONS OF OTHER'S... NO MATTER HOW MANY TIMES WE SEE THEM.
I AM SO PROUD OF THE YOUNG GENERATION THAT WERE IN FRONT OF THE SUPREME COURT CHEERING THE RULING. BLESS THEIR HEART'S FOR STANDING UP FOR LIFE... GOD GIVEN LIFE!
THANK YOU, MIKE.
MY STATE OF OHIO, IS NOW PUSHING FOR A COMPLETE BAN. I PRAY IT HAPPENS
In the extremely unlikely event that the question of Inter-racial marriage comes before the court, I wonder if liberals will insist that Clarence Thomas recuse himself since he is in an inter-racial marriage? <G>
It would actually be a legitimate argument, but I'll bet large sums we'd never hear it from them.