Albeit Biden won the election, the Democrats did cheat. Here is my take on the subject...I was watching the vote count chart for Wisconsin and Michigan late at night around 11:00 p.m. and both charts were curving upward (a natural occurrence for any chart in either direction to create, up or down) and then I went to sleep. I woke up around 4:00 a.m. and Bidens chart line was straight up 90 degrees vertical. I am not much of a chartists but...In my limited capacity of chart reading I have never seen a chart in any venue, be it trading, voting or whatever make a straight up move. imho, I think this is a physical impossibility for one candidate to get all the votes and move their chart straight up and the other candidate didn't get any votes, which leads me to the conclusion that were absolutely too many votes for Biden and none for Trump. I mean really...Does that happen in the real world?
rock,
This has been definitively debunked here and elsewhere so many dozens of times.
Trump WAS leading late Tuesday evening from the voting booth numbers.
However, after they counted those votes, they counted the mail in votes and for months, Trump told his people NOT to vote that way because it was corrupt.
So Trump people all voted in person or did not vote at all.
Biden told his people to vote..........in person and by mail.
So guess who got MOST of the mail in votes? Nothing fraudulent about that.
Trump cost himself a heck of a lot of votes and has nobody but Donald Trump to blame for it.
This has been investigated, recounted, legally challenged and scrutinized more than any other election X 10.
All you are getting now to reinforce that are nefarious, far right political sources trying to convince republicans that democrats cheated. Even if it wasn't enough to change the election..........we just know they cheated.
No they didn't!
Lies like this made millions of dollars off of suckers believing that completely busted false narrative who went to see 2000 Mules.
If it were true, how in the heck did thousands of republican prosecutors and politicians and entities in 50 states not have a shred of legal evidence? And they looked under every rock for it.
What did they use to accomplish this?
Magic?
2000 Mules took something that theoretically could have been possible(before all the investigations and evidence smashed it to pieces) along with clever production and speculation, spun it into just another big lie about the election results.
Dinesh made millions on this new big lie.
This has been the response by republican legal entities to 2000 Mules.
1. Ignore it because it's obviously bs and they don't want it to foul the waters
2. Investigate it and found it was bs
3. Condemn it for being bs
2000 Mules 7-17-22 new thread for Tim/forum
21 responses | Started by metmike - July 17, 2022, 1 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/87219/
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2000 Mules has been released
41 responses |
Started by TimNew - May 7, 2022, 6:32 a.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/84141/
Once people think they know something, believe in it, it's almost impossible to change their mind, especially if one of their sources is Fox, which is trying to brainwash viewers with election DISinformation. Tucker is the worst.
Tune into Fox in the evening on any weeknight if you want a make believe world that features republicans always being right on everything. Being the hero in most stories but sometimes the victim.
Democrats are 100% wrong and very evil/dishonest about everything.
So it will probably be impossible for you to appreciate the fact that this was the most secure election in history that passed more rigorous testing of the results by an extraordinarily wide margin compared to #2.
This is solely based on the overwhelming facts/evidence.
And we hear all these recollections from republicans of impossible to happen straight up vote counts that they know they saw on tv.
Where is 1 of them please?
They were erased to cover up the fraud?
We know that you can't just ERASE something that you and millions of others saw on tv or the internet.
There would be copies of it all over the place.
What has happened, is that nafarious sources have MADE THAT UP and produced fake charts that they posted, along with THEM claiming they witnessed it........but they are lying.
People that read their stuff, think.....yeah, I think that I remember that happening too!
And it becomes part of what they think they remembered seeing themselves but its just remembering another persons bs.
IT DID NOT HAPPEN because it would have been copied and sent out a billion times, otherwise and would have resulted in a legit finding of widespread fraud in at least 1 of the many hundreds of investigations.
Instead, the fake versions are getting sent out millions of times and incorporated in brains THAT WANT TO BELIEVE IN IT.
That's why you have me, rock.
I'm always happy to fact check or apply objective scrutiny using evidence to bust both political sides when they lie..........and both sides do it for similar political reasons.
This also means MarketForum can't be an echo chamber of unchallenged, one sided politics which is everybody's favorite type of place to socialize...........birds of a feather.
The dems all left because they couldn't stand the Trump worshippers and me defending Trump and the truth during the fraudulent Mueller hearings.
The other side is becoming scarce too because I challenge them on bullcrap.
This is totally, 100% fine with me. Completely.
If my code of honor/ethics busting lies from both sides and showing the authentic truth using pure data/facts/ data/science ruffles feathers from both sides........I am totally cool with that.
Even if I ended up being that last honest person left(that won't be the case because we still have some here).
My wife, who nails it tells me I have 3 faults.
1. I talk to much......ya think?
2. I'm too analytical and analyze everything to death YA THINK?
3. I'm too honest.
A person could have alot of worse faults than that (-:
Sorry to disappoint you, man.
What you should actually be doing is questioning why these nefarious sources are trying to steal your intelligence with fake election DISinformation.
You and 10's of millions of other republicans have been extremely victimized by this.
You don't recognize it as such because they are telling you things exactly the way you WANT TO HEAR AND BELIEVE.
They do it because they know you want it and they are more attractive to viewers/listeners ....so they say things that folks on the receiving end want to hear.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/77011/#77012
Was there SOME cheating in some places?
Of course there was. It always happens in every election. I showed 10 times more of this happening AND BEING PROSECUTED than everybody combined here.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/71813/#71816
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/67047/#67106
This election was nothing special with regards to that kind of cheating...other than LESS of it was found than usual considering the intense looking for it.
What made it truly unique was the use of manufactured false cheating narratives convincing many tens of millions of republicans permanently that systemic/wide spreading cheating happened by the other side that DID NOT HAPPEN........to use as a political tool against the democrats.
That was the real cheating that took place!
Met, u didn't make a case for the chart line going straight up. u just spewed a bunch of gibberish. Post one line chart where the line goes straight up, then there might be some truth to ur reasoning! After all, how could Biden get all the votes and Trump not get any, when before I went to sleep the chart was curving? btw, the vote count chart was for all votes...Mail in and in person! And of course u didn't see the videos of the Republican auditors being told to stand back from the people who were counting the votes in Democrat states. That right there is enough to prove something suspicious is going on.
rock,
I am all about data, graphs/charts, evidence and facts.
Let's see those charts please that shows anything other than my gibberish explanation for why Biden got so many more of the mail in votes...Trumps own fault because he told his people NOT to vote that way.
Also, some large urban areas counted last were strongly Biden leading....just like Clinton won them, by even bigger margins in some cases in 2016(Detroit area)
There was 1 clerical error in 1 country of MI that was corrected but this is not what you are claiming.
In no legit case that I know of did Biden get ALL the votes, 90 degree up as you recollect. So please show it, since I haven't been able to find that anywhere........and I looked hard.
Here's some professional fact checking sources that state the same thing but are intended for use by people that don't speak gibberish too(-:
They include previous evidence if you go to some of their included links
From extremely trusted Reuters:
Overnight, election workers “found” 140,000 mail in ballots in Wisconsin; 200,000 in Michigan and 1 million in Pennsylvania. “All for Biden. None for Trump.”
From Politifact:
From AP News:
By ARIJETA LAJKA and AMANDA SEITZNovember 4, 2020
https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-afs:Content:9647421250
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Make sense to you rock?
BTW, you must not have been here last year for this but we had close to 100 separate threads on this exact topic after the election and I addressed that Mt. Everest amount of DISintformation with what must be 1,000+ posts.
Can you guess how much impact the authentic facts, evidence and truth had that debunked the hundreds of election fraud DISinformation posts from our republicans here?
There was no agreement on anything by anybody.
In fact, it had the opposite reaction. The more proof that was provided to bust the DISinformation, the more stubborn and determined the believers of the lies became in believing it.
In fact, it caused Gunter to massively increase his DISinformation X2 then X3 and X4 as he turned it into a competition to try to outpost my authentic facts with as much BS that he could find............and the amount of BS on the internet is unlimited, so he kept me pretty busy for months busting his bunk.
So the point is, if you accept these explanations and believe the truth, you'll be the first one to do so.
Describing those facts/truth in the earlier posts as gibberish.......suggests that we can add yet another republican non believer to the list of the election truth deniers.
Here's just a few of them:
mikelindells election tape
11 responses |
Started by mcfarm - Feb. 6, 2021, 8:58 a.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/65299/
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/72115/
By metmike - March 17, 2021, 1:07 p.m.
Wonderful discussion here:
The truth about voter fraud:
https://www.brennancenter.org/sites/default/files/legacy/The%20Truth%20About%20Voter%20Fraud.pdf
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Maricopa audit
Started by wglassfo - July 7, 2021, 9:30 a.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/72061/
Arizona recount
5 responses |
Started by metmike - June 3, 2021, 5:34 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/70449/
State election officials try to stop election audits
6 responses |
Started by wglassfo - May 26, 2021, 4:22 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/70014/
Arizona Election audit. My favorite story so far.
22 responses |
Started by TimNew - May 21, 2021, 7:30 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/69771/
Snake Oil Salesman Mike Lindell
Started by metmike - May 13, 2021, 12:16 a.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/69324/
mikelindells election tape
11 responses |
Started by mcfarm - Feb. 6, 2021, 8:58 a.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/65299/
Election Fraud in Ga
29 responses |
Started by TimNew - Dec. 5, 2020, 5:14 a.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/62268/
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/62268/#62292
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/62268/#62317
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/62268/#62385
oh boy! more vote-switching "evidence"
9 responses |
Started by GunterK - Jan. 4, 2021, 10:02 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/63755/
Umm, we have a major problem here: "Trump Pressured GA Secretary of State to 'Find' Votes"
15 responses |
Started by WxFollower - Jan. 3, 2021, 8:28 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/63694/
Chart reading and the Election line chart for Wisconsin/Michigan
16 responses |
Started by rockitck - Dec. 27, 2020, 11:23 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/63393/
is this where we have come to as a country?
17 responses |
Started by mcfarm - Dec. 19, 2020, 8:07 a.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/63002/
forensic analysis of Dominiion software
4 responses |
Started by GunterK - Dec. 15, 2020, 11:02 a.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/62756/
Wisconsin case: Trump side didn't think it was worth calling even a single witness.
2 responses |
Started by WxFollower - Dec. 14, 2020, 3:21 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/62730/
Sedition Defined
14 responses |
Started by joj - Dec. 12, 2020, 2:39 a.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/62603/
latest on the election
8 responses |
Started by GunterK - Dec. 12, 2020, 7:46 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/62634/
mail in ballots explained again
6 responses |
Started by mcfarm - Dec. 13, 2020, 7:40 a.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/62662/
supremes turn back Texas challenge
15 responses |
Started by mcfarm - Dec. 11, 2020, 7:31 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/62596/
Dominion spokesperson says....
7 responses |
Started by GunterK - Dec. 8, 2020, 8:29 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/62426/
Hi Mike
26 responses |
Started by wglassfo - Dec. 8, 2020, 12:26 a.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/62389/
Is there a there there
5 responses |
Started by wglassfo - Dec. 7, 2020, 4:40 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/62373/
the election.... "death by a thousand cuts"
13 responses |
Started by GunterK - Dec. 3, 2020, 1:10 a.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/62128/
more anomolies explained
6 responses |
Started by mcfarm - Dec. 6, 2020, 5:18 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/62320/
Votes manipulated
22 responses |
Started by wglassfo - Dec. 1, 2020, 5:40 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/62042/
send all others home and then count the fake ballots?
9 responses |
Started by mcfarm - Dec. 3, 2020, 10:35 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/62206/
Greetings from Dominion.... all is well
4 responses |
Started by GunterK - Dec. 3, 2020, 11:16 a.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/62142/
Lin Wood Sidney Powell
Started by wglassfo - Dec. 2, 2020, 11:17 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/62122/
Fraud or perjury
6 responses |
Started by wglassfo - Dec. 2, 2020, 6:58 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/62105/
dominion
5 responses |
Started by mcfarm - Dec. 2, 2020, 10:45 a.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/62081/
Georgia GOP Election Official Speaks Out
Started by joj - Dec. 2, 2020, 5:13 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/62096/
Chris Krebs Speaks Out
12 responses |
Started by joj - Dec. 1, 2020, 7:05 a.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/62024/
Votes manipulated
22 responses |
Started by wglassfo - Dec. 1, 2020, 5:40 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/62042/
reasons to wonder about the fruad
12 responses |
Started by mcfarm - Nov. 29, 2020, 8:42 a.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/61936/
Why this election was a fraud
24 responses |
Started by wglassfo - Nov. 26, 2020, 10:21 a.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/61803/
Re: Re: Capitol Insurrection News
By metmike - Jan. 27, 2021, 9:55 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/64730/#64841
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/72115/#72145
Arizona clown show continues
2 responses |
Started by metmike - Aug. 23, 2021, 12:36 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/74108/
Mike Lindell......a complete nut job!
14 responses |
Started by metmike - Aug. 6, 2021, 7:41 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/73263/
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Here was the corruption against Trump/R's and again, this too is a partial list but more complete than the one above that has at least 3 times more threads than what I posted above. and I don't have the time to add every new one on there.
This was corruption used AGAINST Trump:
Durham finally getting some bad people
12 responses |
Started by metmike - Nov. 9, 2021, 11:42 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/77477/
John Durham Grand Jury Indicts Lawyer Whose Firm Represented Democrats in 2016
Started by metmike - Sept. 16, 2021, 8:37 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/75018/
More Mueller corruption!
Started by metmike - Sept. 11, 2020, 6:44 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/59031/
FISA report: DOJ watchdog releases findings on Russia probe surveillance Started by metmike - Dec. 9, 2019, 1:12 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/44076/
IG testimony today
Started by wglassfo - Dec. 11, 2019, 5:09 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/44129/
Alan Dershowitz: Stone indictment follows concerning Mueller pattern
This is exactly like what Mueller did for 3 years!
More Mueller corruption!
Started by metmike - Sept. 11, 2020, 6:44 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/59031/
Re: Re: Pardon for Michael Flynn
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/61735/#61805
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/60589/#60599
Reviewing Muellers corruption with facts:
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/55925/#55961
They got away with this one too:
June 2016: Loretta Lynch-Bill Clinton meeting.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/24146/#24224
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https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/77011/#77871
Your true friends tell you the truth and expect nothing in return.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/77858/#77860
It's great that you acknowledge that Biden one though, which is alot better than half of republicans that still think Trump won.