"And they will lose the support of the country with 40 million population, with millions of children.

Maybe that was the number BEFORE Zelensky was elected to negotiate peace with Russia.

At last check, they are down 8 million under his watch.

https://cream-migration.org/ukraine-detail.htm?article=3573

Current migration flows from Ukraine

There are 3 people that can stop this war by themselves.

1. Putin

2. Zelensky

3. Biden

                    U.S allies losing confidence in Zelensky? NATO wants Zelensky to talk peace with Putin | Report    

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jL90N7JaiUk

Feb 25, 2023  #NATO #UkraineWar #USandallies        

        According to a Wall Street Journal report, NATO's biggest European members want Ukraine to start considering peace talks with Russia. The UK has reportedly floated a defence pact with Ukraine which has the backing of France and Germany. They want to give Kyiv more weapons and security guarantees just short of membership in the U.S.-led military bloc, in order to encourage negotiations with Russia. This is because it's been a year since the war broke out, and there is growing doubts over Ukraine's ability to retake all of its territories from Russia.

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You mean they've been lying to us this entire time using absurd propaganda?

And now, we turn it back to one of your favorite propaganda sources:

The West’s hardest task in Ukraine: Convincing Putin he’s losing

https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/16/politics/ukraine-strategy-putin-west/index.html

      Ahead of next week’s anniversary of the Russian invasion, US and Western leaders are gearing up for a show of unity and strength designed to establish once and for all that NATO is in the conflict for the long haul and until Moscow’s defeat.   

      “Russia has lost – they’ve lost strategically, operationally, and tactically,” the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Mark Milley said on Tuesday. NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg warned Wednesday that “Putin must realize that he cannot win” as he explained the rationale for rushing arms and ammunition to Ukrainian forces. And Julianne Smith, the US ambassador to NATO, told CNN’s Becky Anderson that Washington was doing all it could to “continue to apply pressure on Moscow to affect (Putin’s) strategic calculus.”    

      And in an opinion article by CNN’s Peter Bergen, retired US General and former CIA Chief David Petraeus said the conflict would end in a “negotiated resolution” when Putin realizes the war is unsustainable on the battlefield and on the home front.  

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Maybe after Putin read this article, he started thinking about giving up because he somehow, completely missed these points and was wasting his time focusing on his army of 850,000.....which we know from the Western news sources, doesn't stand a chance against Ukraine's army of 196,000........oh wait, that was before each of them lost 100,000. 

We know NOW that 96,000 is much greater than 750,000 based on NATO math, so Putin should put up the white flag right now before it gets even  worse and he only has 700,000 left to Ukraines 46,000.

And  rapidly escalating  1+ trillion in damages to Ukraine, with severely damaged infrastructure  is just making it even more futile for Putin. 

How can Putin not see this )-:

PLEASE NEGOTIATE PEACE AND STOP THE INSANITY AND DAMAGE TO EVERYBODY BEFORE IT TURNS INTO SOMETHING MUCH WORSE.

The losses/damages compared to gains for Ukraine for war compared to negotiating peace are billions of times worse for the war choice.........with a continued escalation that could take it into the high trillions or greater. 

This is crazy obvious to anybody that hasn't decided to use tunnel vision politics or had their brains captured by war propaganda …. instead of the authentic facts and realities of human lives. 

China Feels Squeeze From Both Sides of Ukraine

https://www.newsweek.com/china-squeeze-russia-ukraine-invasion-war-peace-1782942

https://www.newsweek.com/ukraines-counteroffensive-shocked-putin-another-mobilization-isw-1784128?amp=1&utm_source=pushnami&utm_medium=Push_Notifications&utm_campaign=auto-vengaged&UTM=1677543725381

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Propaganda at its most dishonest.

While the decimation of Ukraine escalates with Putin's new offense........tell a story about something that happened last Fall that was a brief, temporary victory for Ukraine and pretend that's what defines the war.

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Russia’s new offensive will test the morale of Putin’s mobilized masses

https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/russias-new-offensive-will-test-the-morale-of-putins-mobilized-masses/

With hundreds of thousands of mobilized Russians expected to take part in Putin’s big offensive, this emerging trend could pose a significant threat to the Kremlin. If current casualty rates are any indication, the coming attack could result in unprecedented loss of life and spark a complete collapse in morale among Russia’s already demoralized mobilized troops. This would make life very difficult for the Russian army in Ukraine, which would find itself confronted by a breakdown in discipline that would severely limit its ability to stage offensive operations

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More rolling eyes propaganda. We're to believe that Russia's big offensive taking place is actually a significant threat to Russia, not Ukraine according to the spin above.

Russia's 10 times bigger army is the one that will have the collapse in moral as they crush the much smaller army of Ukraine that is shrinking %-wise by a greater amount than Putin's army.

Of course Putin knows this. Why do you think that he's winning the war and is likely to continue on that path?

And all these lies/propaganda, 240,000 deaths and rising, 1 trillion in damage and counting, 8 million displaced.............just so that the Ukraine can join NATO.

Again, that's it and they are deceiving you because the US is a leader of NATO and our media is colluding in their diabolical schemes using Ukraine for their proxy war against Russia. 

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/92953/#93461

Scroll down for the basic principles of war propaganda.

Putin will only listen to force

History is rife with examples of the cost of inaction.

Joshua D. Zimmerman is a professor of history and chair in Holocaust studies at Yeshiva University. His forthcoming book, “Jozef Pilsudski. Founding Father of Modern Poland”, comes out in June with Harvard University Press.

https://www.politico.eu/article/vladimir-putin-russia-ukraine-europe-war-force/

If Russia takes Ukraine’s capital, NATO forces under American command will defend the remaining part of Ukraine and relocate its government to Lviv.

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Highly educated, know it all, pompous arses blinded by their biased politics, unable to see realities of human lives and the destruction, are willing to sacrifice things 1 million+ times worse to accomplish their agenda.

He claims NATO made a mistake by not turning it into WW3 early on. 

Fact: All they had to do was agree to NOT have Ukraine be part of NATO.

His position above is that we should quadruple down on the force that's killed 240,000 and risk nuclear war.........instead of agreeing to NATO not claiming Ukraine.

Professor Zimmerman, how about you and your family go to Ukraine to get killed for NATO's war instead of telling the US that it should send it's family there. 

He says we will pay the price for inaction.

Can you say...........Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan. How many brave US soldiers died for causes like yours and they ended up all being counterproductive. 

Not one of those wars was worth even a tiny fraction of the losses to us and what we declared as our enemies because we were fighting for democracy and principle.

This male brain thinking world that wants to crush any enemies that we can so that we can impose our standards/rules on the countries and societies we deem deserve our support has backfired almost all the time.

This is NOT WW-2. That's pure propaganda to fool people into supporting this war. 

Putin is NOT going to march into Poland and Europe next as if he was Hitler. That's pure propaganda. It's crystal clear what Putin wanted before this war and there was 0 indication that he was going beyond Ukraine. He wanted to keep NATO out of Ukraine/Ukraine out of NATO.

That seems impossibly simple but that was it and they don't want you to know it.

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/93431/

People are so obsessed with hating Putin and Russia's political system. It causes them to distort realities and think they are supporting Ukraine by having a war with Russia in Ukraine.

The absolutely worst one of all by several orders of magnitude is Zelensky. Betraying his campaign promises to get elected by promising that he would negotiate with Russia for peace.

Anything other than giving Putin an inch is their/his philosophy.

Even as Ukraine get obliterated..........it's still better than agreeing to not let NATO have Ukraine or negotiating with Putin. 

Ukraine's president elect promises new peace talks

issued on: 21/04/2019

https://www.rfi.fr/en/europe/20190421-ukraines-president-elect-promises-peace-talks

Ukraine’s leader stood on platform of peace, but finds himself on brink of war

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/feb/20/ukraines-leader-stood-on-platform-of-peace-but-finds-himself-on-brink-war

But critics fear that by refusing to make concessions to Moscow, Zelenskiy is steering his country towards disaster. They argue he needs to find a pragmatic solution to the dangerous standoff with Putin – ruling out Nato membership for Ukraine, at least for now – a key Russian demand. The US and its allies would go along with such a declaration, privately breathing a sigh of relief, they argue.

“The Russians will keep on until Zelenskiy gets the message,” Vasyl Filipchuk, a former senior Ukrainian diplomat and foreign affairs spokesperson said. “They want him to stop what they see as anti-Russian rhetoric. A statement on Nato would calm the situation down. Moscow and Nato would be happy. A few in Ukraine’s establishment would be displeased.”

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Nobody is telling you the truth about this. All we get is blatant  propaganda from the West that has been ramped up on the 1 year anniversary of the invasion.

It's all right there above.  30 years from now, historians will mostly agree how stupid it was to do this, instead of agreeing to keep NATO out of Ukraine.

When we look back at all those wars mentioned above today, we think "how could people at those times  be so gullible and our government/politicians so corrupt and compassion lacking and the military industrial complex so powerful that we allowed that to even start, no less go on for years.

When it was happening, it didn't seem so obvious because the propaganda worked so well on the people.

It's no different right now in Ukraine. The insane, totally unnecessary horrible war seems justified because almost every message/story that  we hear/read about the war is just convincing propaganda/lies.

If the stories were all true, I would likely support the war.

The Basic Principles of War Propaganda

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Basic_Principles_of_War_Propaganda

The basic principles of war propaganda (Principes élémentaires de propagande de guerre) is a monograph by Anne Morelli published in 2001. It has not been translated into English. The subtitle recommends its "usability in case of cold, hot or lukewarm war" (Utilisables en cas de guerre froide, chaude ou tiède).

The ten "commandments" of propaganda which Anne Morelli elaborates in this work are, above all, an analytical framework for pedagogical purposes and for media analysis. Morelli does not want to take sides or defend "dictators", but show the regularity of use of the ten principles in the media and in society:

1. We don't want war, we are only defending ourselves!

2. Our adversary is solely responsible for this war!

3. Our adversary's leader is inherently evil and resembles the devil

4. We are defending a noble cause, not our particular interests!

5. The enemy is purposefully committing atrocities; if we are making mistakes this happens without intention

6. The enemy makes use of illegal weapons

7. We suffer few losses, the enemy's losses are considerable

8. Recognized intellectuals and artists support our cause

9. Our cause is sacred

10. Whoever casts doubt on our propaganda helps the enemy and is a traitor

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Unless you've been living in a cave, you know  well that the above defines the propaganda from the West/NATO/US. In 2023, the technology allows for it to be much more powerful/widespread and effective than at times in the past, like the Vietnam war.

You would think that advanced communications would better reflect more facts, evidence and truth. Lies, distortions and false narratives would all be exposed.

NOPE. Just the opposite.

Governments have agenda's. 

The gatekeepers of messages/media have  biased agenda's. One of them is to make money. Another one is to convince people to believe things which support their political agenda's.......maximizing the use of the powerful communication tools of this age.

"You mean they've been lying to us this entire time using absurd propaganda?"

LOL  SURELY YOU JEST!

I'LL REPEAT MYSELF ~ "ZEL WILL NEVER JOIN NATO" 

IMO... THE NATO COUNTRIES WEREN'T EXPECTING HIM TO BEST ALL OF THEM, BY WINNING THE TROPHY FOR "PSYCHOPATH OF THE YEAR". I ACTUALLY BELIEVE HE IS SCARING THEM!!  LOLOLOL  IN THAT VIDEO, IT ALMOST SHOWS!! NOW, HE HAS A "WORRIED / SAD" LOOK ON HIS FACE!  WHAT A PRO!! HA! HE NEVER GAVE UP HIS "ACTING" CAREER!

I KNOW A GUY THAT GOT "DEPLOYED" TO UKRAINE, A FEW WEEKS AGO.. NEEDLESS TO SAY ~ HE AIN'T ALLOWED TO SAY MUCH!  HE ALSO GOT "DEPLOYED" TO THE JAN. 6TH SAGA.

GOD DOES THE FINAL SORTIN'.

The US blew up the Nordstream 2 pipeline which was a state sponsored act of terrorism and act of war against Russia AND GERMANY. 

Where's the investigations? Consequences?

Since that doesn't fit into the propaganda messages........it's just covered up!

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/93288/#93298

Russia/Putin knows with certainty that the US did this. An act of war was committed against Russia by all standards. Exactly what makes people think that Putin is not dialing that into his considerations when it comes to using nuclear weapons and cyber attacks directly against the US?

If Putin rationalized that the US started it............he would be exactly right. 

Biden/NATO are doing exactly the things that start a WW-3.

A LITTLE OFF TOPIC, BUT....  KEEP IN MIND THE 2024 ELECTION ISN'T THAT VERY FAR AWAY.

Only ‘A Matter of Weeks’ Before Iran Could Be Able to Manufacture Nuclear Weapons: CIA Chief

These out of control, loose cannons calling the shots that lack the ability to apply objective discernment because their thinking is based on a mindset of having impunity on every decision(covering it all up to the people with lies and propaganda) are doing exactly what will cause nuclear weapons and cyber attacks.

Why would we think that Russia doesn't feel a compelling, legit justification for retaliation against the United States, especially because of the clear act of war, blowing up their natural gas pipeline?

That had to be one of the dumbest things in modern history for the US to do.

But it wasn't done in haste or impulsively. It took months of preparation/planning and they totally knew what they were doing. 

So it tells us how dangerous the leadership is in the US/NATO/West. They are actually CAUSING the war to get worse, forcing our enemies to unite and creating the recipe for WW-3.

Then, they will blame it entirely on Russia with more bs propaganda.

They claim that Zelensky is calling all the shots. I wouldn't want this guy picking my breakfast cereal, let alone making blundering decisions that continue to escalate the war and get his country completely decimated instead of his campaign promise for peace with Russia by negotiating. 

How could it have gone any worse for Ukraine?

The amount of death and destruction has been completely maximized by the war dragging on. 

And the current plan from Zelensky and company?

Keep fighting until he doesn't have any army left and keep telling NATO countries, demanding at times,  that they have blood on their hands if they don't save Ukraine so that Ukraine can be part of NATO.

HERE'S ANOTHER LOOSE CANNON ~ IMO

Putin's friend Iran dividing West? Brazil ignores US, allows Iranian warships to dock at Rio Port

Why Iran Arming Russia With Drones For Ukraine War Is Utterly Cynical

Blowing up the pipeline, made the US a legit target for retaliation. 

Russia can now justify actions directly against the US.

Before, Russia's justification would have been "The US is aiding Ukraine" and that one doesn't get very far.

Now, it's "the US committed  violent terrorism/an act of war directly targeting Russia unrelated to the battle field or support for Ukraine"

And Russia would be exactly right and justified.

The penalties for what the US did, especially since it hurt Germany, should result in numerous people be charged with a war crime and going to prison. 

Since that will never happen, Russia will be looking for opportunities to seek their own justice against the US. It not only considers the US a major enemy, like before but the relationship is rapidly deteriorating and the saddest thing is that the US is responsible for much of that.