https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/24/middleeast/us-syria-drone-strike-analysis-intl/index.html
https://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-syria-diplomatic-ties-russia-assad/31922447.html
"There will no longer be relations between Ukraine and Syria," Zelenskiy said, adding that the sanctions pressure against Syria "will be even greater."
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The amount of damage in Ukraine is already more than 1 trillion times worse than if Biden/NATO had agreed to not make Ukraine a member.
Hundreds of thousands in lives lost.........and it continues to escalate with Biden still insisting that we will continue the course until beating Putin on the battlefield.
The US war against Russia in Ukraine is spreading to other locations now and causing the US to have other enemies, including China.
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Why would anybody NOT expect this?
Errrr, anybody not believing all the propaganda.
The US is having a war against Russia in Ukraine.
The US blew up the Russia natural gas pipeline.
So we should expect Russia to not respond?
China and Russia are now allies. China is crystal clearly standing with Russia.
Add Iran and Syria.
This was so predictable!
It WILL get worse without NATO/Biden agreeing that Ukraine will not join NATO or something similar.
Failing to do so could start WW-3 before this year is over.
And....
Why cant Russia live next to a NATO nation?
As far as I can see, NATO has not acted as an aggressor.
Ukraine and others are living next to Russia and in those nations I suspect many feel Russia is an enemy.
And guess what,Russia is proving they are!
This is what we did when Russia was building missel silos in Cuba. I believe Russia feels the same as we did. They did give warning that they felt this was aggression.
During the Cuban Missile Crisis, leaders of the U.S. and the Soviet Union engaged in a tense, 13-day political and military standoff in October 1962 over the installation of nuclear-armed Soviet missiles on Cuba, just 90 miles from U.S. shores. In a TV address on October 22, 1962, President John F. Kennedy (1917-63) notified Americans about the presence of the missiles, explained his decision to enact a naval blockade around Cuba and made it clear the U.S. was prepared to use military force if necessary to neutralize this perceived threat to national security.
Cuban Missile Crisis - Causes, Timeline & Significance - HISTORY
As far as I can see, NATO has not acted as an aggressor.,
Thanks much, John.
See cutworm's comment and the links below:
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/92952/#93229
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/92952/#93566
At the very least, we should be able to understand why Putin feels threatened, even if we disagree with it. But I understand that's almost impossible because the West only reads NATO propaganda from elite NATO cheerleaders otherwise known as the MSM.
To me, NATO's willingness to fight a war in Ukraine over this issue, in order to try to destroy Russia totally confirms Putin's concerns and the fake narrative that NATO is not an aggressor.
They can blame it on Putin all they want but they just proved beyond a shadow that their agenda was much more important than the best interests of Ukraine.
Ukraine would been 1 trillion times better off NOT being a NATO country forever than this current outcome that needed 2 entities to go all in for it to take place.
Russia and NATO.
It takes 2 to tango.
I don't spend much time condemning Russia here, which deserves constant condemnation because everybody knows that story.
The secret being hidden is NATO's role.
They want you to think that Russia has limited support and almost the entire world is with strongly backing NATO because Russia is too evil for other countries to align with them.
Russia has more global support than Germany did in WW-2.
https://www.stripes.com/theaters/africa/2023-02-22/ukraine-war-global-divide-9222379.html
This is one of the best, pictorial summaries of key dynamics in WW-2 and afterwards.
https://www.vox.com/2014/11/13/7148855/40-maps-that-explain-world-war-ii
"The American military presence, and Germany’s membership in the anti-Soviet (and now effectively anti-Russian) NATO alliance, allows Germany to spend just 1.4 percent of Gross Domestic Product on defense, about a third of what the United States spends."
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They didn't just make up the term "anti-Russian" NATO alliance. The propaganda from the West will describe it as otherwise.
Regardless of the legit threat of NATO or not, this is what it was all about for Putin.
Issued on: -before the war
https://www.france24.com/en/russia/20220130-did-nato-betray-russia-by-expanding-to-the-east
The Kremlin claims the West broke a promise it made in the 1990s not to expand NATO, and is now using this claim to justify threats to invade Ukraine.
One of Russia's consistent demands has been for the North Atlantic Treaty Organization to stop expanding to the east and pledge never to include Kiev in the security alliance. But NATO has long insisted it has an open-door policy to any nation that meets its criteria for membership.
The United States and NATO dismissed Moscow’s security demands as nonstarters in a written response to the Kremlin delivered last week by the US ambassador to Russia.
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There it is in black and white. Putin wanted no NATO in Ukraine or he would invade..........the United States and NATO told him to take a hike.
I totally agree with NATO, the US and Ukraine that Ukraine should be allowed to join NATO if they want but that's not the point.
The point is what the choices were.
Face complete decimation of Ukraine FOR THE RIGHT to join NATO, along with possible WW-3 and dragging the US and world into it or agree not to join and have peace and prosperity.
Let's say that I was in a public place and thirsty and knew where a water fountain was and headed towards it. Then, I was confronted by an armed guy who said, I don't want you to get a drink. Go back or I will cut off 1 of your fingers.
What right does this guy have, breaking the law, telling me I can't get a drink in a public place. So I end up losing a finger, which is worth 1 million times more than a drink.
Then I decide to act based on my principles and I am going to get that drink.......by going thru him, no matter what it takes, even though he is much better armed then me.
Initially, he takes off several more of my fingers but I get some licks in too as we battle for my right to get a drink of water.
Thats because I call a good friend who brings me some weapons to use in fighting him for the unlimited access to the water fountain.
The battle goes on over the same reasoning, with both of us belonging more in the emergency room more than just me wanting unfettered access to 1 drinking fountain. and he has some friends helping him.
We both call up our friends, some who come to cheer us on and they start discussing how much they are going to step in to help each of us with some of them having the option to use powerful lethal weapons to try to kill off the other side off for an advantage if things get close to losing for their side.
However, for the time being, everybody from both sides agrees that we will both fight until one of us kills the other one even though it doesn't look like that will come soon.
All to defend the legit right for unlimited access to a drinking fountain to quench my thirst.
Even if I eventually kill the other guy, I won't be going to the water fountain. I'll be going to the emergency room and spend months in the hospital recovering and if I recover, will be severely damaged for the rest of my life.
If you're fighting for something important, whether its the right/just principle or not, common sense tells you not to give up something 1 trillion times more valuable to try to get it.
For NATO, this is far more than Ukraine in NATO.
They are using this for exactly what Putin claims they are after.
To destroy Russia which is why they are causing Ukraine to be obliterated for THEIR cause. Zelensky is their puppet, with Biden their leader.
Russia expert has theory on why Putin made newest nuclear threat
The MSN continues to feed propaganda.
This time, it's just Putin making a threat to scare us because he's losing the war..........which is appears that he isn't losing.
Earth to NATO/West:
Remember in late 2021 and early 2022, when Putin kept threatening that if you didn't agree to not let Ukraine join NATO he would invade?
Remember when many claimed it was just a threat and he wouldn't do it?
Remember those months when you could have stopped the war but chose not to, then justified your decisions that refused to negotiate that resulted in the Putin invasion?
Was Putin just "raising the threat level with bluster, trying to escalate because he has problems"?
The reality is that Putin has a plan to win in Ukraine and it includes using nuclear weapons if NATO refuses to negotiate.
And he has some big allies that make WW3 viable in his mind.
If he was isolated, on an island with no support, like they want us to think............that plan would make no sense.
With the current mentality of NATO not negotiating and staying in Ukraine until they defeat Putin on the battlefield, I predict nuclear weapons WILL be used by Russia.
It's already WW3 in its early stages and rapidly escalating in front of us.
The only thing that can stop it is NATO agreeing to not take in Ukraine because Putin will never change his tune. It doesn't matter that Putin is dead wrong. The cost of engaging in an escalating war over such a trivial concession to the wrong party is insanely illogical.
Trillions of times more damage than the concession is worth. False propaganda can twist it to appear differently to justify the war but that fact is indisputable.
We are living in historic times.
1. The start of WW3 because of obsessed, male brain thinking, psychopathic control freaks with political agenda's and corruption/deceit passed along with false propaganda spins from the political and media cheerleaders.
2. The vilifying of a beneficial gas, greening up the planet and causing the best weather/climate for life in over 1,000 years during this climate optimum...... to destroy the economies of the rich countries with the greatest (scientific) fraud in history because of capital cronyism, political agenda and corrupted science. Again, passed along by the MSM cheerleaders that serve as the conduit for brainwashing.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/93926/
3. The biggest US political charlatan in history captured tens of millions of brains and steals their intelligence, turning them into a cult and him the leader.........destroying the credibility of his/their own party and ruining the confidence of the people in the US in the most important element of our Constitution, the election process for at least the next decade.
There has never been an age when 3 extremely powerful and potentially devastating dynamics similar to this were taking place simultaneously.
They are all unprecedented on their own but 3 at the same time? WOW!
I've mentioned this before.
There are 2 sides lining up in the battle of WW3. By no coincidence they are also the same countries lining up with the UN and the Climate Accord doo doo agreement.
Many of the countries in #1 and #2 are the same ones on the same sides. The UN and NATO are of the exact same mindset. One world order with them being in charge.
https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/news_210129.htm?selectedLocale=en
https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/topics_91048.htm
https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/topics_50321.htm
By Jon Jackson
An expert's point of view on a current event.
https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/03/23/xi-putin-meeting-china-russia-undeclared-alliance/
Chinese President Xi Jinping’s decision to visit Moscow this week in his first trip abroad since his reelection comes as no surprise to those who have been watching carefully. When one steps back and analyzes the relationship between China and Russia, the brute facts cannot be denied: Along every dimension—personal, economic, military, and diplomatic—the undeclared alliance that Xi has built with Russian President Vladimir Putin has become much more consequential than most of the United States’ official alliances today.
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https://www.npr.org/2023/03/25/1166089485/putin-russia-tactical-nuclear-weapons-belarus
Putin argued that by deploying its tactical nuclear weapons in Belarus, Russia was following the lead of the United States, noting that the U.S. has nuclear weapons based in Belgium, Germany, Italy, the Netherlands and Turkey.
"We are doing what they have been doing for decades, stationing them in certain allied countries, preparing the launch platforms and training their crews," Putin said, speaking in an interview on state television that aired Saturday night. "We are going to do the same thing."
Putin said Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko has long asked to have nuclear weapons in his country again as a counter to NATO. Belarus shares borders with three NATO members — Latvia, Lithuania and Poland — and Russia used its territory as a staging ground to send troops into neighboring Ukraine on Feb. 24, 2022.
Previous:
https://www.npr.org/2023/03/01/1160309060/china-belarus-xi-jinping-russia-ally-lukashenko-meet
Defensive?
Crimea?
Hardly apples to apples in my opinion
AND, THEN...... THERE'S
Putin and China JUST changed EVERYTHING as the U.S. readies for war
John,
Why does that even matter?
Everybody spends all their time focusing on who is more to blame based on right and wrong and basing actions entirely on that.
They started with:
Putin has no right to tell Ukraine that they can't belong to NATO. That's all that matters and we'll subject Ukraine to all consequences to defend that principle!
For the last year, Ukraine has been bombarded with those consequences and the average US citizen, who obviously doesn't give a crap about Ukrainians in the real world because the propaganda has programmed the authentic ability to see their humanity out. They see only hate for Putin and defeating Putin, completely missing the option of peace which is the only one respecting the humanity of Ukrainians.
Psychopath Zelensky be damned for selling out his own people as a NATO puppet(that was elevated by NATO as a global hero and pranced around NATO countries as such-saddest part about all this) He was elected based on a platform promising negotiations and peace with Russia.
Whatever corruption existed before Zelensky was light years better than this for Ukraine.
If you THINK that you are for Ukrainians and support this war........you are being completely fooled by the propaganda.
If Ukraine had agree to no NATO, what exactly would the consequences have been for Ukrainians?
Making one concession to Putin and what would that have meant for Ukraine?
The main benefit to being part of NATO is that the United States will protect you. Is this really what the people in the United States want? Another country for us to defend and spend money on?
If you belong to the Military Industrial Complex............heck yes!
Zelensky obviously cares only about this.
Joe Biden because he's the president of the country controlling NATO is calling the shots. He authorized blowing up the Nordstream 2 pipeline going to Germany to hurt Russia and Germany and to help the US, which suddenly started pumping record amounts of natural gas into storage exactly when they were planning the operation. We went from extremely low supplies to almost record high supplies in just 6 months from the guy who ran on "I guarantee you that we are ending fossil fuels"
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/93796/#94016
Tax payers?
We have already spent 100 billion to help kill hundreds of thousands in Ukraine and do over 1 trillion in damages that the US will help foot the bill for!
There are people profiting from this that are controlling the false narratives but its not the US tax payer and certainly not Ukrainians.
Americans, wake up!
https://wisevoter.com/country-rankings/nato-spending-by-country/#peoples-republic-of-china
https://www.citizen.org/article/military-industrial-complex-contributions-report/
Full report:
file:///C:/Users/Basement/Downloads/military-industrial-complex-contributions-report.pdf
The annual military budget could hit $1 trillion by 2027
The push for China competition, along with a lack of fiscal discipline, is pushing Pentagon spending into the stratosphere.
October 31, 2022
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/u-s-military-weapons-shortage-war-game-ukraine-aide/
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Everybody in Europe wants to be in NATO!
Why wouldn't they with the US military industrial complex and US tax payers more than happy to provide them with weapons and protection for almost free.
As last year wore on, smart people started noticing Russia and China coming closer together and asked what would the US do if our war(let's be honest, the US IS NATO and this IS a proxy war between the US and Russia) with Russia, which was drawing China and Russia closer ended up being the US vs Russia + China?
We're not asking anymore because its happening and looks more like the main sides will be the US +Europe vs Russia + China + Syria +Iran.
NATO?
As you saw from the graphics, NATO is mostly dependent on the US.
All the other European countries combined will not come close to helping us as much as China can help Russia.
It's insane that we are even having to discuss such idiotic foreign policy for the US as the reality instead of some impossible, speculative dynamic.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/92952/#93786
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/92952/#93786
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/92952/#93222
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/92952/#93565
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/92952/#93786
Julian Borger in Washington
Although Alexander Lukashenko has agreed to host nuclear bases little construction work seems to have started
Instead, he focused on a longstanding gripe of Moscow’s about the US nuclear-sharing arrangements with five of its allies: Germany, the Netherlands, Belgium, Italy and Turkey. Under that arrangement, the US stores B61 gravity bombs (about 100 in all) in those countries and their aircrews are trained to fly planes carrying them in the event of nuclear war.
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So who would be the target of all those B61 gravity bombs (hydrogen bombs)?
In the Cuban missile crisis, who did the US think would be the target?
But somehow, Putin shouldn't feel threatened by NATO adding more countries surrounding him, which likely means more nuclear gravity bombs closer to Russia.
https://www.atomicarchive.com/history/cuban-missile-crisis/map-missile-range.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B61_nuclear_bomb
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This was a story from 2005. It appears that those nuclear bombs have been reduced to around 150 right now.
https://www.nukestrat.com/us/afn/nato.htm
Today, the United States is the only nuclear power that continues to deploy nuclear weapons outside its own territory. The approximately 480 nuclear bombs in Europe are intended for use in accordance with NATO nuclear strike plans, the report asserts, against targets in Russia or countries in the Middle East such as Iran and Syria.
This is why the MSM doesn't tell you about the United States nuclear weapons arsenal in Europe via their secret agreement with NATO(unpopular with the actual people there that don't know about this), which is expanding and surrounding Russia because you might understand why Putin feels threatened.
Call it NATO if you want but this is THE UNITED STATES running the entire show compliments of our Military Industrial Complex and corrupted, dishonest politicians.
The US obviously never removed all the nuclear weapons aimed at Russia as was required by the Nuclear arms treaties.
Exactly how many nuclear bombs does any country have in close proximity to the US?
We saw the US reaction by President Kennedy.
We assume that Kennedy would have followed thru with his threats if Russia had not conceded.
The difference this time is that NATO and the United States REFUSED to concede to Putin's demand and insisted that Ukraine would become a NATO country..........which means the likelihood of arming it with H bombs like the US is doing to some other NATO countries against Russia.
Maybe now you can understand why all the non NATO countries are not jumping in to show support for NATO.
Again, Zelensky is just a US/NATO puppet that betrayed his people for self serving agenda and the accolates gushing in to feed his nuclear bomb sized ego from corrupt NATO entities pulling the strings.
This IS a war between the US(and weak NATO allies) VS Russia and now China, Syria and Iran are taking the other side, while the US gains no new allies.
How can this possibly be if what the propaganda we've been told is true???
December 22, 2022 Updates
https://www.icanw.org/b61-12_new_us_nuclear_warheads_coming_to_europe_in_december
In December, the United States is bringing new nuclear warheads to Europe. The B61-12 warhead is a more advanced warhead from the ones currently deployed in Belgium, Germany, Italy, the Netherlands and Turkey.
Boeing designed the bomb’s new guided-tailkit, giving it additional maneuverability and the appearance of more precision. But, it’s a nuclear weapon, and has different yields, from 0.3kt to 50kt. These bombs can detonate beneath the Earth’s surface, increasing their destructiveness against underground targets to the equivalent of a surface-burst weapon with a yield of 1,250 kilotons––the equivalent of 83 Hiroshima bombs.
These nuclear weapons are coming to Europe in a time of heightened nuclear tension on the continent, and even as the majority of people in European host countries want to remove nuclear weapons and join the Treaty on the Prohibition of Nuclear Weapons.
Combined with the lack of transparency around nuclear sharing, this moment raises questions about whether citizens in the host states would agree to be complicit if these weapons are ever used.
It's been the USA NOT Russia violating these treaties!
You wonder why so many countries in the world hate us?
Of course, not NATO because we give them free protection at the expense of the US tax payer and delight of our military industrial complex and corrupt politicians.
Again, my point is not to defend Putin but to understand why he did this diabolical thing that we played the key role in in order to see what the crystal clear, logical/smart decision would have been. Its only us agreeing to not take Ukraine for NATO that will stop it.
Actually, that was BEFORE the invasion.
No way he will just be cool with the original demand of Ukraine not joining NATO after losing so much.
1. Ukraine will absolutely need to give up some of its territory now, which is NOT what Putin wanted 13 months ago.
2. Or we will have to defeat Putin on the battlefield and get him to go limping back to Russia with China and Syria and Iran all apologizing for aligning with him (-:
That's actually what the propaganda wants you to believe.........with potentially twice as many or more dead and another 1+ trillion in damages and now that you know about the US and its nuclear weapons aimed at Russia, you know that the idiots making the decisions in the US would prefer a nuclear war instead of conceeding anything to Putin with concessions.
Yes, we would probably win but do you want long range nuclear weapons launched at our country or an incapacitating cyber war with the Chinese having the ability to shut down much of our country.
Do you think that Balloon-gate was just a random data gathering balloon from China which went off course and had nothing to do with China's positioning as an ally of Russia?
We have already stepped in it and China would like nothing more than to have an excuse to take us out.
We just handed them the excuse on a silver platter.
As a close ally to Russia, they can justify whatever they decide to do to hurt the US and they pose a 10 times higher threat than Russia in the cyber world which could do several orders or magnitude greater harm than nuclear war.
By: Grace Dille
Nov 18, 2022
https://www.meritalk.com/articles/fbi-dhs-china-poses-biggest-long-term-cyber-threat-to-us/
https://carnegieendowment.org/2022/04/25/preventing-chinese-sabotage-in-crisis-pub-86922
The Biden and Trump administrations both have warned that China could sabotage critical U.S. systems during a bilateral crisis and that technological interdependence heightens this risk.1 Beijing has the legal and political tools to compel private Chinese companies to offer up any privileged access they may have to software or hardware systems used in the United States. Such access could facilitate actual attacks, as well as threats (either explicit or implicit), against U.S. infrastructure. During peacetime, China’s interest in stable commercial and diplomatic relations generally outweighs any benefits of digital sabotage or saber-rattling. But in extreme circumstances, like the cusp of war, China would have strong reason to consider all its options. There are two broad scenarios.
First, China could attempt a counterforce operation to paralyze the U.S. military and prevent American units from responding to a bilateral crisis. For example, Beijing might want to stop key U.S. military assets from promptly reinforcing or resupplying American or allied forces abroad. The scenario has parallels with Japan’s 1941 surprise attack on Pearl Harbor, which sought to buy time for Tokyo to act freely in the Pacific.2 In a modern digital version of such an attack, China could try to subvert unclassified and/or commercially operated infrastructure that the U.S. military relies on—such as core telecommunications systems, private logistics companies, off-base electric power sources, undersea cables, commercial satellites, and cloud services.
In extreme circumstances, Beijing would consider digital sabotage to paralyze the U.S. military or dissuade American leaders from confronting China forcefully.
Second, Beijing could carry out a countervalue operation that harms U.S. civilians, hoping to demoralize them and thereby dissuade American political leaders from confronting China forcefully. This might involve disruptions of the U.S. power grid, financial sector, healthcare systems, emergency services, telecommunications, or transportation networks. Britain briefly tried (and soon abandoned) a countervalue strategy at the outset of World War I, seeking to exploit its centrality in international communications and financial networks to isolate the German economy and force Berlin to quickly sue for peace.3 A Chinese version of this gambit could cause significant blowback—harming the Chinese economy and turning Chinese tech companies into international pariahs, among other consequences. But in a major crisis, Beijing might discount or accept this risk, seeing digital subversion as less dangerous and provocative than more overt forms of disruption.
The danger posed by these scenarios is difficult to assess. On the one hand, they are premised on a hypothetical, high-stakes crisis that may never come to pass. China’s calculus for when and how to exploit its companies’ access to adversary systems is unknown; Beijing’s concern for Chinese firms’ commercial reputations may create a state of deterrence. And the ultimate impact of any Chinese sabotage is uncertain, in part because U.S. critical infrastructure systems are so complicated and decentralized. On the other hand, the long-term risk of such a crisis seems to be trending upward as bilateral relations deteriorate. And all governments, including the United States, are willing to exploit domestic companies for national security purposes under various circumstances. Finally, a crisis is no time to test the consequences of critical U.S. system outages.
U.S. restrictive measures can help to reduce the risks of actual or threatened Chinese technological sabotage. But such measures also have practical limits. Understanding these limits can help to focus U.S. action on the most important areas while preventing futile and costly overreach elsewhere.
To begin with, Beijing’s counterforce and countervalue options in a crisis do not all require insider access to U.S. systems. According to the U.S. Intelligence Community, “China can launch cyber attacks that, at a minimum, can cause localized, temporary disruptions to critical infrastructure within the United States.”4 Such cyber attacks most frequently involve remote hacking; built-in backdoors are rare. In extremis, China could also do things like physically cutting undersea cables (including those that are not operated by or connected to China), disrupting U.S. satellites (through physical or cyber means that do not require supply chain access), or ordering intelligence agents or co-optees inside the United States to carry out physical sabotage of critical infrastructure (whether Chinese-made or otherwise). Some of these actions are potentially deniable. In other words, U.S. tech restrictions can curb a few of China’s sabotage options, but it isn’t clear that PLA military planners need or prefer those particular options.
Technology controls also cannot eliminate China’s low-tech or no-tech sources of leverage over the United States. During peacetime, Beijing’s demonstrated coercive tool kit includes halting key exports, imports, and people-to-people exchanges in an effort to inflict economic damage.5 Such actions do not necessarily target technology industries or rely on technological links. Instead, China has previously targeted sectors (including agriculture, tourism, and education) where it can impose asymmetric economic costs and maximize political pressure on a rival country’s government. Again, more extreme options also exist. At the threshold of war, Beijing could choose to seize U.S.-owned assets in China or carry out mass arrests of American citizens. Such leverage points are inherent to a U.S.-China relationship; they cannot be eliminated so long as the two countries do business.
The fact is that any bilateral relationship provides both countries with some access to and influence over the other. Unless the United States seeks a Cold War–style separation from China, Beijing will retain significant avenues for coercion and disruption. Of course, Washington wants to design a relationship that maximizes U.S. leverage over China while minimizing Chinese leverage over America. This is a fine aspiration in theory, but often unattainable in practice, especially in the long run. One-sided dynamics will become harder to sustain over time as China continues to grow in economic heft and international influence relative to the United States.6
https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/20/europe/xi-putin-china-russia-visit-monday-intl-hnk/index.html
If the war escalates or goes to nuclear weapons, I would bet that China will come to the assistance of Putin and hit us with a cyber war that will shut us down and make Americans wish they could go back and start over again.........but it will be TOO LATE!
He was telling the US something by using that phrase, "dear friend" to describe Putin. Apparently, our incompetent and non perceptive leaders missed it.
Biden says China-Russia partnership is 'vastly exaggerated'
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/94074/
Biden is risking everything we have in this country because he thinks hes the smartest man in the room.
They continue to ignore/cover up Biden blowing up the Nordstream 2 natural gas pipeline From Russia to Germany.
Jean,
thanks for the contribution yesterday.
I was so busy posting that I just now noticed it when reading back.
we are taking a dire risk with our countries future right now based entirely on the US and Biden wanting Ukraine to be part of NATO.
its Become much more than a wild speculative theory that we will be in WW3. It’s escalating real fast and it’s Putin gaining all the big gun ally’s not the US.
pthe most absurd fact of all is that Biden continues to ramble on about how climate change is the greatest threat to the US and world right now……even last week.
BTW, my posting on this, as with other topics is me doing hours of objective research and analysis TO LEARN and use for discernment with the objective of sharing the authentic truths.
its not intended to defend a closed minded position. Please challenge me on anything that you see is wrong or not factual.
my posts are based on facts/evidence using empirical data and applying the scientific method.
combining those facts with critical thinking and common sense to project the most likely and also other potential outcomes.
lve been a chess coach to 4,100 students the past 27 years and there are many principles shared between war game strategies and chess.
the biggest difference is that in chess, after the plastic pieces die in battles…….they all come back to life when you start the next chess match!
Putin and Biden are playing this war game as if the hundreds of thousand of dead people are just plastic pawns and not human beings that are dead forever.
The false propaganda promoting this war and supporting Bidens position has been doing the exact same thing.
We are on the verge of turning this catastrophic blunder for the country of Ukraine into the greatest catastrophic blunder in US history…….even while the gatekeepers try to keep us living in the bliss of ignorance.
brainwashing and stealing our intelligence to,advance their political agendas.
somebody With clout, will hopefully back channel a powerful message to Biden and/or to step in and work on peace immediately because both sides are experiencing tremendous and escalating losses which includes the entire world paying higher energy and food prices.
you want to help solve the global supply side problems contributing to inflation?
End the war!
instead of retarded counter productive crimes like blowing up a pipeline that takes a key energy supply source off the global market.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/93431/#93484
Principle #8 once again in the news today:
Orlando Bloom Surprise Visit To Ukraine Meets With President Zelensky
The announcement comes after Moscow said it would put a key nuclear pact on ice.
The Yars mobile ICBM system has a reported range of 12,000km and can carry multiple nuclear warheads.
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While ignorance is bliss, diabolical Joe responds with statements like:
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/94074/
And by blowing up a natural gas pipeline:
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/92953/
And by getting hundreds of thousands killed and 1 trillion in damages and global/US inflation.
The reason? So that Ukraine can be part of NATO, which means the US would protect yet another country legally with a binding agreement. What would you call this current NON agreement protection?
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/94068/#94116
The Biden administration/NATO is using the war to TRY take out Putin but it's not just Putin. Look at one of Putin's "dear friends"!
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/93915/#93962
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/u-s-military-weapons-shortage-war-game-ukraine-aide/
Somebody better step in quickly before this rapidly escalating out of control war, with nut cases on both sides making decisions obliterates more than just Ukraine.
Shame on you Americans for supporting this!!!
Take your brains and gonads back and start hurting Biden and those brainwashing us with their war propaganda in the main way that matters to them which only we can control......their favor-ability ratings.
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Nobody from the West talks about negotiations for peace, just continuing the war until THEIR side wins.
https://www.newsweek.com/kremlin-countries-ukraine-peace-talks-nato-america-russia-1789168
Ukraine sees no way to negotiate peace with Putin after war crimes warrant
Kyiv sees Putin’s abduction of children as part of a genocidal attempt to wipe out its culture and identity.
https://www.politico.eu/article/ukraine-no-way-negotiate-peace-vladimir-putin-war-crime-warrant/
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Let's just hope for the best and pretend Russia didn't just hook up with China, Syria and Iran and pretend Putin would never use nuclear weapons and keep the killing in Ukraine going and obliterating their country. With no plan to end the war other than......defeating Putin on the battle field.
But NEVER negotiate for peace.
Americans! Please wake up and stop being bamboozled by the war charlatans with their constant bombardment of your brains with war propaganda that has stolen your intelligence and captured your brains!
It's not right for the US to use its political agenda to defeat Putin to intentionally get Ukraine obliterated. These are frickin human beings for God's sake. If they were American's you'd think differently.
We are using up a massive amount of US resources in an extraordinarily counter productive war, halfway around the world on Russia's border because of the exact same male brain thinking(wanting to defeat other countries on the battle field) that got us locked into the horrible wars in Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan. The only difference is that mostly OTHER people are getting killed this time.
NATO-led by US war strategist psychopaths only see the benefits of the Russians getting killed and using up their resources...........and its worth whats happening to Ukraine and the rest of the world to them.
Let the critical thinking and caring for humanity trump the false war propaganda!
The most absurd part of all this is that this is who we are doing it for:
The country is not a symbol of freedom and liberal democracy.
https://www.cato.org/commentary/whitewashing-ukraines-corruption#
Ukraine’s track record of protecting democracy and civil liberties is not much better than its performance on corruption. In Freedom House’s 2022 report, Ukraine is listed in the “partly free” category, with a score of 61 out of a possible 100. Other countries in that category include such bastions of liberal democracy as Rodrigo Duterte’s Philippines (55), Serbia (62), Hungary (59), and Singapore (47). Interestingly, Hungary—which has been a target of vitriolic criticism among progressives in the West because of Prime Minister Viktor Orban’s conservative social policy—ranks eight points higher than Ukraine, which is the recipient of uncritical praise from the same Western ideological factions.
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We can see how the corrupt Zelensky was bought out by NATO/US. They agreed to make him a great hero in the NATO countries (where he's be paraded around as such) in exchange for him sacrificing his people and entire country to a war with Russia.
Zelensky was elected based on a campaign platform promising Ukrainians negotiations and peace with Russia. He sold out Ukrainians.
He was actually working to fulfill that promise early in his presidency:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-49903996
Then, suddenly like a switch got flipped from on to off in Zelensky's head, he made an extreme turnaround and defiantly refused to negotiate with Russia. Instead, he defiantly insisted that Ukraine should become part of NATO which has been the 1 thing that Putin insisted should never happen under any conditions. Putin said he would invade Ukraine before he would let them become part of NATO. Instead of making that 1 small concession and continuing to negotiate, Zelensky told Putin to bring it on and begged NATO to fast track Ukraine in.
This was the recipe for causing a war with Russia not preventing one!
Not even 1 year after the United States withdrew from Afghanistan in defeat, leaving billions in our military hardware on the losing battlefield, we turned around and got into a war with adversaries much more powerful than Afghanistan.
Russia which clearly has China, Syria and Iran on their side.
Russia has more nuclear weapons than we do. This is on Russia’s border and means everything to Putin. this is the most retarded foreign policy blunder in US history.
instead of negotiating for peace, look at Biden’s response to Russia and China when they tell the world that they are dear friends, clearly sending a message to Biden.
He laughed it off and snubbed them on the world stage.
now he’s playing nuclear chicken with Putin and, again laughing off Putin(who is a desperate, dangerous killing psychopath). on the global stage and daring him to use nuclear weapons, telling his brainwashed audience that Putin will never do it To try to discredit Putin as all words and no actions…….even as our eyes can see crystal clearly in Ukraine how Putin is a man of action that follows thru with threats even at extraordinary expense to his country and the world.
who do you believe?
Biden, the media/NATO/ false war propaganda?
or your eyes?
or the facts?
trusting Biden/NATO against the facts and being wrong again in this situation will make every American wish we could go back to the start and make a small concession to Russia. If you don’t already see that, then your brain is captured by false war propaganda.
If Biden is right…….the losses have already been 1 trillion times worse than if Ukraine had agreed to not join NATO.
if Biden is wrong, the losses could be 1 trillion times 1 trillion times 1 trillion compared to Ukraine not joining NATO.
this is the most retarded, delusional US foreign policy in history. The only thing that makes any sense is that Biden, who was in charge of foreign policy in corrupt Ukraine as VP, instead of fighting the corruption, he used the corruption to insert his unqualified, failing son into a system that handsomely rewards corrupt people with political contacts.
we have the indisputable facts that Joe Biden did this As VP.
so now he has this unholy alliance with corrupt Ukraine along with wanting a war with Russia to take out Putin which is top priority of NATO.
Biden is president of the United States. How is this insanity which is punishing us with a bigger tax burden, higher inflation because of global energy/food supply disruption and an elevated nuclear war risk good for our country?
Other than the US military industrial complex that controls Congress with dirty lobby money getting rich because they manufacture all the war equipment.
Sadly, people can be convinced of anything in todays world.
tens of millions still believe Trump won, despite absolute proof X 10 of the most secure election presidential results in hisory.
tens of millions are convinced that the COVID vaccine kills more people than COVID.
you can thank Trump, Fox and others like Epoch Times on the far right for those brainwashes.
that the beneficial gas, CO2, the building block of life which is greening up the planet with its booming biosphere is actually killing the planet with a climate crisis during a period with the best weather/climate in the last 1,000 years-last time it was this warm.
It’s clearly a scientific climate optimum for nature and a manufactured climate crisis for politics and corrupted science and crony capitalism.
the war in Ukraine is following the same playbook used to get into,people heads with a compelling, convincing sounding manufactured reality imposed with false propaganda, repeated over and over by the gatekeepers of messages and Viola! We have another incredible hijacking of the real world and turning it into a make believe world where people only believe the stories told by the false propaganda …..which always features good v evil and the good guys saving the world are always the source of the false propaganda.which you have to believe if you are for good and against evil.
for The planet and our children and against a fairy tale pollutant and evil fossil fuels that, interestingly are responsible for almost every technological advancement and wondrous life extending and quality bringing dynamics.
you can blame the United Nations for hijacking climate science and being the brains that started that brainwash
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people align with the sources for news that give it to them how they want to hear/read it and rarely fact check because they are going to those news sources to get the news based on assumptions that trump the need to be skeptical.