Great negotiator........NOT!
8 responses | 0 likes
Started by metmike - May 24, 2023, 6:28 p.m.

Scroll down from much more!

Nebraska senator flips out debating ban on sex change surgeries for minors, screams 'we need trans people' 

'Transgender people belong here, we need trans people, we love trans people,' state Sen. Machaela Cavanaugh shouted

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/nebraska-senator-flips-out-debating-ban-sex-change-surgeries-minors-screams-we-need-trans-people



In America today, when one political side wants something and the other side wants the opposite,  which one of these definitions apply best. 

1. Negotiate with the other side. Look at their position and try to understand it by looking thru their eyes. Present authentic OBJECTIVE  facts in open minded fashion to help them discern and dial in your sincere position with the hope of finding mutual ground and agreement.

OR

2. Scream and yell to get attention like this lady. Bring a megaphone and use it to completely drown out others that only have their voice. 

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/94449/

Bully and attack the other side like Cruz,  Jordan and AOC frequently do to play to your voter base,  to generate intense anger and hatred from your side......directed towards the other side which maximizes the divisiveness INTENTIONALLY and completely alienates those you disagree with. 

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/95310/#95374


Riot for the cause, even if it destroys billions in property, kills multiple innocent victims or violates the Constitution.  The ends justifies all means. 

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/94482/#94625

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/95310/#95335


Use absurd public relations stunts and things like racism to try to vilify and generate hatred towards your opponents:

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/95441/

Use "resentment politics"/race, like Biden demonstrated at his horrible commencement speech for the all black college, Howard University earlier this month:

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/95183/#95184

Comments
By metmike - May 24, 2023, 6:44 p.m.
Like Reply

There are numerous factors causing the exponential increase in mass shootings but these examples from the previous page from our leaders in US society have greatly contributed to an atmosphere of hate, intollerance, anger and a feeling of desperation when you can't get your way and loss of control............vs learning to accept it.               


  Latest mass shootings 5-16-23            

                            Started by metmike - May 16, 2023, 7:16 p.m.            

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/95231/

By metmike - May 24, 2023, 6:58 p.m.
Like Reply

People with messages like this:

                Greatest FORMER President in history/J. Carter            

                            20 responses |         

                Started by metmike - Feb. 18, 2023, 7:49 p.m.            

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/95231/


MLK

https://jongordon.com/positive-tip-mlk-quotes.html


LOVE                        

"I have decided to stick with love. Hate is too great a burden to bear.'                        

"Love is the only force capable of transforming an enemy into friend."                        

"I believe that unarmed truth and unconditional love will have the final word in reality. That is why right, temporarily defeated, is stronger than evil triumphant."

                        "Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that."                        

"Hatred paralyzes life; love releases it. Hatred confuses life; love harmonizes it. Hatred darkens life; love illuminates it."



https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/92441/#92519
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/92242/

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/77011/#81278


Have been replaced by spiritual message charlatans like this:

https://nypost.com/2019/04/03/democrats-are-so-afraid-to-piss-off-al-sharpton/

Rev. Al Sharpton

By metmike - May 25, 2023, 11:29 a.m.
Like Reply

Whoopi Goldberg Delivers Scathing Reality Check For Right-Wing 'Snowflakes'

The cohost of "The View" is "sick" of conservative meltdowns

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/whoopi-goldberg-snowflakes_n_646efe00e4b0b4444c772bd7

+++++++++++++++++

She makes some great points..........especially an unintentional one that I'm making. People always recognize the other sides bias and flaws and fact check them relentlessly while completely missing their sides blatant transgressions of doing the exact same thing.  Hypocrisy!

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/95465/

+++++++++++++++

Speaking of hypocritical and Whoopi:

    

Whoopi Goldberg Defends Flying Private as 'The View' Heats Up Over Climate Change        

 Television          By TooFab Staff          |              

"I do take private planes, I don't want to lie, because I don't wanna be on a plane where I gotta talk to a million people when I have to get where I'm going," she explained. "So there are some things that I am going to be guilty of, because I do not -- contrary to popular belief -- I do not walk on water."

Whoopi Goldberg Defends Flying Private

https://blackamericaweb.com/2018/11/29/whoopi-goldberg-defends-flying-private/

+++++++++++++

Do as I say......not as I do.

By metmike - May 25, 2023, 11:35 a.m.
Like Reply

Jimmy Carter and MLK not only led with POSITIVE messages to bring us together they LIVED them every second of their lives and set wonderful examples as role models for all of us.

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/95465/#95467

It couldn't be more clear to me that people like this, being replaced in politics/celebrity/leadership by people/organizations in the examples above are one of the biggest contributors to what's ailing America right now.

++++++++++++++++

The good thing about this is that we don't have to follow today's leaders!

We can, instead ignore and follow moral principles that WE know are right. Use examples from ethical giants in the past or even better set our own path. We are only accountable to ourselves. Breaking free from the tribalism and captured mind syndromes which pulls us in with the profoundly powerful psychological  force of gravity in a black hole seems impossible to resist when you have to go against where the rest of YOUR world seems to be headed. 


      Use this to help make yourself a better person!           

                  https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/82252/


Reasonstobegrateful

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/45623/


For those able to do it, the enormous feeling of empowerment and freedom is impossibly wonderful to describe. 

It might still be very frustrating to live in this world of charlatans, with people that completely disagree with you and use nonsense to justify it and do things that are very disturbing to you. 

But only you have the power to hate them(or not)  or let them rile you up or to react by clinging to charlatans in your own tribe that suck you into their flawed thinking circle by appealing to your instinctive, primal emotions.  

If you line up strongly with the D or R party, you will never be able to fully accomplish this without recognizing and fully embracing the fact that your side also is loaded with their own charlatans. Some of them are delivering the messages that you want to hear/read the most. That's what makes the messengers so hard to resist.

The extreme difficulty in being able to do this..........is the fatal flaw for all of us that have human cognitive bias. It must be CONSCIENTIOUSLY resisted by anybody trying to see objective truths in our world.

And to have minds that are authentically free from outside forces trying to capture them into their belief systems with cult like thinking.




By 12345 - May 25, 2023, 1:16 p.m.
Like Reply

"Nebraska senator flips out debating ban on sex change surgeries for minors, screams 'we need trans people' "

I ALMOST COULDN'T WATCH THAT ENTIRE RANT!!  IT ACTUALLY "SICKENED" & "FRIGHTENED" ME!  THE WOMAN IS ACTUALLY MENTALLY ILL, IMO.  WOWWWW!

SHE REALLY NEEDS MENTAL HEALTH CARE!  HOW SAD!!

By metmike - May 25, 2023, 1:23 p.m.
Like Reply

Jean,

It was just a reaction to not getting her way by stealing the attention away from those she disagrees with that won the battle based on democracy.

She's likely not mentally ill but, instead lives in a world where extreme tactics by activists for whatever the cause is becoming the norm and replacing civility and respect and understanding  for people that we disagree with. 

I get that she loves trans people and is an advocate for the cause which has some legit biology and dynamics which should be addressed.

However she shists on non trans people that don't agree with her cause in this display and it actually becomes COUNTER productive. Anybody on the fence, after watching her is more likely to go to the other side.   Note your reaction. This is a hypocrite's mindset. 

Most important. She's been working hard for the trans community and their rights for some time. Promising them that she would get trans justice. She lost and her ego, credibility and other emotions were damaged.  However, to save face, doing this provides a loud message to those who she represents that  she is never giving up on being their tenacious advocate.

She reassured the trans community-HER cause/people(and helped intensify THEIR emotions)  but alienated all others, especially those that disagree with her in a big way, which only increases the divide. 

This tribal/divisive mentality in 2023 is exactly what this thread is about.

By 12345 - May 25, 2023, 2:02 p.m.
Like Reply

MIKE~ I'VE SAID IT BEFORE & I'LL SAY IT, AGAIN: "THERE'S NOT A SOUL ON THIS EARTH, THAT I DON'T LOVE, BUT...... THERE'S A SLEW THAT I DON'T LIKE!  I'M REALLY THANKFUL THE GOOD LORD DIDN'T COMMAND US TO LIKE ONE ANOTHER!"  LOL   

PEOPLE HAVE THE GIFT OF CHOICE, & WE ALL CHOOSE.  

By metmike - May 25, 2023, 2:29 p.m.
Like Reply

I greatly Admire that trait in you, Jean!