The Electric: The Valley of Death Takes Out Another EV Maker
8 responses |
Started by metmike - Aug. 13, 2023, 7:29 a.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/98204/
Previous related threads:
TSLA, NFLX
Started by joj - July 20, 2023, 7:27 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/97460/
EVs are a Tough Sell
Started by metmike - May 16, 2023, 9:03 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/95238/
Tesla getting obliterated
33 responses |
Started by metmike - Dec. 20, 2022, 6:44 p.m
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/91607/
Are Electric Vehicles About To Sweep The Country?
Started by metmike - Feb. 27, 2023, 1:50 a.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/93452/
https://www.citywatchla.com/index.php/cw/important-reads/26455-the-ev-scamdemic
Energy transition is a hoax
Started by metmike - April 15, 2023, 5:50 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/94557/
Lithium Batteries, Cobalt and the Congo
Started by joj - Jan. 5, 2023, 7:53 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/91944/#91950
NEW: Electric cars are not the solution: Our mechanical engineer chimes in with great points. November 2022 https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/90429/
California tells electric car owners NOT to charge vehicles. Energy crisis in California because of unreliable, fake green/anti environmental energy!September 2022 https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/8
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hurricane-idalia-electric-car-caught-fire-tesla/
"It’s 2035, all cars are electric, and the massive Hurricane Iris has hit Louisiana. Much of New Orleans is under water, and emergency workers with their Ford F-150 Lightning electric pickup trucks need to rescue families and pets. But Louisiana has lost power, and the trucks are all dead.
The Blessey family, which has lived in New Orleans for generations, want to get out of town to stay with relatives. They can’t set off in their Chevy Bolt EV because they won’t be able to recharge it on the way.
We are still in 2021—but this is what the future could look like if much of the car fleet becomes electric. On September 5, almost a week after Hurricane Ida, 640,000 customers, or more than one quarter of Louisiana households, are still without power and unable to recharge any electric vehicles they might own. Gasoline and diesel are winners when natural disasters interfere with the electricity grid.
Federal and state governments have two contradictory goals. The first is increasing the share of electricity that is made with renewables and phasing out fossil fuels: with current technology, this goal makes electricity more expensive and less reliable. The second is mandating more electricity use by requiring that new vehicles run on electricity rather than gasoline.
The combination of these two goals makes transportation less resilient to hurricanes and other natural disasters.
Natural disasters and electricity outages are not uncommon events. The Department of Energy’s Energy Information Administration keeps track of scores of electricity outages each year. Some are minor events affecting small numbers of customers for a few minutes. Others, such as Hurricane Ida, affect millions of customers for days on end.
Although California wants all new cars to be battery-powered electric by 2035, the state does not have an effective plan to keep pace with existing electricity demand and future rapidly-growing demand from a new all-electric vehicle fleet."
https://www.miamiherald.com/contributor-content/article272574443.html
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/lithium-ion-battery-fires-electric-cars-bikes-scooters-firefighters/
https://hillerfire.com/resources/how-do-you-put-out-a-lithium-ion-battery-fire/
Investors need to look behind the headline data and realize the danger in the widespread use of this technology.
Why do Lithium-ion Batteries Catch Fire? How to Avoid the Mishap?
https://www.saurenergy.com/solar-energy-blog/why-do-lithium-ion-batteries-catch-fire-how-to-avoid-the-mishap
+++++++++++++++
1. Don't let the battery charge get below 20% or above 80%??? That limits the already limited range to even 40% LESS range.
2. Let it cool before charging??? Charging on the road will always be with a hot vehicle.
3. Park in the shade. That's another inconvenience.
4. Store dry. It rains and snows in the real world where vehicles drive.
How about this one:
5. Don't buy a fake green/anti environmental, inconvenient, extremely expensive electric vehicle with several major limitations. You're only contributing to crony capitalism and WRECKING the planet at the same time with this horrible investment.
++++++++++++++++
HYBRID cars are something different and do have positives that outweigh fewer negatives.
Battery Taxonomy: The Differences between Hybrid and EV Batteries
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2666792423000252
Lithium-ion batteries have become the best choice for battery energy storage systems and electric vehicles due to their excellent electrical performances and important contributions to achieving the carbon-neutral goal. With the large-scale application, safety accidents are increasingly caused by lithium-ion batteries. As the core component for battery energy storage systems and electric vehicles, lithium-ion batteries account for about 60% of vehicular failures and have the characteristics of the rapid spread of failure, short escape time, and easy initiation of fires, so the safety improvement of lithium-ion batteries is urgent. This study analyses the causes and mechanisms of lithium-ion batteries failures from design, production, and application, investigates its failure features and warning algorithms for thermal runaway, and the concept of long-medium-short graded warning is proposed based on the battery failure mechanism and its evolution to provide a basis for failure warning. As lithium-ion batteries fires are difficult to completely avoid, the characteristics of lithium-ion batteries fires are explored to improve battery structure and develop fire extinguishing agents and methods for fire prevention and suppression. Improving the safety of batteries is a systematic project, and at a time when there has been no breakthrough in the chemical system, improvements, such as build a practical graded warning system, are needed in all aspects of design, production, use and disposal to improve battery safety and minimize the risk of failure.