Progress is stalled around the world as nobody wants to admit the real costs
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/10/10/green-energy-plans-wind-solar-power-myth/
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A perpetual, wonderful source for almost daily wind energy fraud articles:
Mike Maguire
October 10, 2023 3:15 pm
Calling people that disagree with you “truly awful human beings” as Professor Mann did, is about as contrary to sincerely practicing the scientific method as it gets.
Both sides are doing that sort of name calling.
However, there is a massive difference here with Dr. Mann.
Professor Mann, with all his credentials and decades of work has an enormous following. Many tens of millions of people look up to him as he sets an example and helps create the tone for much of mainstream climate science as one of their key spokespeople.
Michael Mann is a Modern Hero and we need to acknowledge that!
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2012/03/09/1072828/-Michael-Mann-is-a-Modern-Hero-and-we-need-to-acknowledge-that-
Mann in the Middle
https://thepenngazette.com/mann-in-the-middle/
Regardless of whether authentic climate science realists agree with people feeling this way about him or not, it’s a fact that they put him up on a pedestal.
He should be held to a much higher standard because of the responsibility that comes with his position and huge following. He is clearly violating that trust which people have in him by constantly digressing with unprofessional behavior and ANTI scientific messages like that one above.
https://climatediscussionnexus.com/2023/10/04/no-way-norway/
“A key question is whether this tendency is part of a cycle, or whether the temperature pattern during this period deviates systematically from previous variations.”
“Even if recent recorded temperature variations should turn out to deviate from previous variation patterns in a systematic way it is still a difficult challenge to establish how much of this change is due to increasing man-made emissions of carbon dioxide (CO2) and other greenhouse gases.”
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Here's the actual paper/study that was just published.
Note: I believe in the physics of beneficial greenhouse gas warming from increased atmospheric CO2 (290 ppm to 420 ppm) that has caused the current scientific climate optimum for most life on this greening planet with its booming biosphere. Currently we are experiencing the best weather/climate for life in over 1,000 years(the last time that it was this warm, during the Medieval WARM period).
To what extent are temperature levels
changing due to greenhouse gas
emissions?
The year 1921 was the second warmest in the US, with more than two thirds of days above 60F.
https://web.archive.org/web/20230410122557/https://realclimatescience.com/1921-heatwave/
The United Nations created the IPCC to HIJACK climate science and REWRITE CLIMATE HISTORY for political agenda! This shows them doing it with 100% certainty!!!
1. In 1990, they used all the long accepted, peer reviewed paleoclimatological studies (over 100 of them) that showed the Medieval WARM period, almost 1,000 years ago was warmer than this.
2. 2001: During the next decade, they schemed with the assistance of several others, specifically, dishonest/corrupt climate scientist, Michael Mann(who used 1 tree ring study to base his entirely NEW/CORRUPT version of climate history on) to completely rewrite climate history. The NEW version wiped out the long accepted Medieval Warm Period that has massive proof from rock solid evidence, like the Vikings in Greenland living in places that are covered by ice today.
3. 2013: More of the same but trying to make it look like they were using numerous sources THAT THEY NOW CONTROLLED! Most of the 100+ OLD, authentic studies that strongly contradict their fake climate history have all been discarded!
4. In 2021, in order to really scare people for their agenda, they created the most extreme graph/version of all that has very little climate history authenticity associated with it.
The IPCC triples-down on their hockey-stick graph.
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They are sooo busted here but the IPCC has been anointed as the savior and main, authoritative source for definitive climate science and climate history for ALL countries of the world to follow(China, Russia, India and a few others know better and follow authentic science because the IPCC can't control them).
The IPCC reports are the climate bible for all climate scientists(most that work for their government) to get their climate religion from.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/98263/#98264
Was the Medieval WARM Period real?
See for yourself below with each balloon representing an authentic scientific study.
For the Medieval Warm Period compared to today below:
Red balloons showed it was warmer.
Blue was colder than today(in that study)
Green was wetter/more precip
Yellow was drier
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2017/01/03/documenting-the-global-extent-of-the-medieval-warm-period/
If you go to the link below, you can hit those individual balloons and get each individual study:
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Over 100 studies from the Medieval Warm Period, most of which show the planet was this warm or warmer 1,000 years ago. It was also this warm 2,000 years ago during the Roman Warm Period and also just over 3,000 years ago, during the Minoan Warm period. Medieval Warm Period Project: http://www.co2science.org/data/mwp/mwpp.php
Where did the data from the bar graphs above come from so that we know that this is the authentic science vs the one that the MSM and dems describe with the fake climate crisis(where they can't show the data to prove)? List of Scientists Whose Work We Cite: http://www.co2science.org/data/mwp/scientists.php List of Research Institutions Associated With the Work We Cite http://www.co2science.org/data/mwp/institutions.php |
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Dr. Merritt Turetsky@queenofpeat
With climate change, permafrost is thawing & releasing carbon. But there are other issues: 1) Thaw makes it hard for northerners to hunt & fish. 2) Permafrost stores enough mercury & arsenic to contaminate most of the planet. 3) Thaw -> failing roads, pipelines, runways.
This is good news Dr. Turetsky. Once the permafrost is gone, then trees can again grow as they did in the past. You do realize we are still thawing out from the Little Ice Age - and the warming is expect to continue many more years - before cooling again.
metmike:
Even warmer than the Medieval WARM Period:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocene_climatic_optimum
The Holocene Climate Optimum (HCO) was a warm period that occurred in the interval roughly 9,500 to 5,500 years ago BP,[1] with a thermal maximum around 8000 years BP. It has also been known by many other names, such as Altithermal, Climatic Optimum, Holocene Megathermal, Holocene Optimum, Holocene Thermal Maximum, Hypsithermal, and Mid-Holocene Warm Period.
Sorry - when it comes to climate studies - publishing is no longer objectively honored by all - it's become very political ...
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Political science is based on consensus. Practical science is based on data. Einstein had his share of "consensus" mongers ...
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metmike:
These are awesome!
https://quotefancy.com/albert-einstein-quotes
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New billboard in South Africa ...
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Here are NASA temperature graphs (original and altered).
Ditto. There is no data showing that CO2 is a control knob. Temperature and other factors affect CO2 levels.
Governments and corporations: What are you waiting for?
What am I waiting for? I'm waiting for more CO2 so our plants won't starve anymore ...
The #ClimateScam cult will cherry-pick a recent event at a single location as proof of their religion, while ignoring 125 years of data from the only large/reliable data set in the world. https://ncei.noaa.gov/pub/data/ghcn/daily/figures/station-counts-1891-1920-temp.png
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@edwinNamakanga
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Who'd ever thought a "climate scientist" would say CO2 is not plant food, unless photosynthesis is no longer being taught in school.
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