Previous thread on this same topic, which the moderator was blocked from:
Ukraine anxious after Biden’s exit
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Started by metmike - July 24, 2024, 11:29 a.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/106160/
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Last 2 posts at that thread:
Ukraine anxious after Biden’s exit
By metmike - Sept. 23, 2024, 11:31 a.m.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/23/europe/ukraine-zelensky-pennsylvania-us-visit-intl-hnk/index.html
https://www.axios.com/2024/09/23/zelensky-us-visit-ammunition-plant-pennsylvania-un-ukraine
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Get ready for a week of complete Horse Manure/Nonsense. Staged and planned out propaganda that the MSM will use for hundreds of top stories about Zelensky the Great and his suddenly realized, magical plan to defeat Russia, after 31 straight months of really bad plans that got his country decimated badly and lost the war by every legit standard over a year ago.
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By metmike - Sept. 23, 2024, 11:32 a.m.
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By commodityman - Sept. 23, 2024, 11:44 a.m.
The moderator is being blocked again from accessing another long opinionated thread that contradicts the propaganda with the TRUTH!
It's time to start a new thread anyways!
Re: Who wants peace in Ukraine?
By commodityman - March 22, 2024, noon
The moderator/metmike is being blocked from any more comments at this thread and tech support will not respond.
It was time to start a new thread anyway:
Who speaks the truth? NOT NATO!
Started by commodityman - March 22, 2024, 11:31 a.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/102768/
Testing to see if the moderator is blocked from this NEW thread too.
Nope, we're good...........for now!
If commodity man was also blocked, then I might guess that it was related to the thread being so long or it being intended for EVERYBODY here.
But only metmike is unable to view and post at that thread anymore.
And it’s only that thread and a couple of others in the past, one of which was another recent , very long thread on Ukraine.
There's definitely something I can't explain going on which makes it impossible to pinpoint, I can only make educated guesses.
The New York Timeshttps://www.nytimes.com › 2024/09/22 › magazine › de...
1 day ago — Desertion is dangerous, and deserters are afraid to speak out. Very few deserters from the Russian military have spoken to the news media.
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Most of the MSM tells us about the massive desertion of the Russian Army..........while the other side tells us this:
80,000 Ukraine Soldiers 'Refuse' To Fight Russia; 'Mass Desertions' Hit Ukrainian Army - Report
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwwJKHBUJsI
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Who is telling the truth or are they both telling the truth or are they both lying?
Here's what we know with 100% certainty(in a moment of honesty by the MSM)
Ukraine anxious after Biden’s exit
By metmike - Sept. 8, 2024, 6:19 p.m.
THIS IS THE TRUTH THEY DON'T TELL YOU!!!
By Ivana Kottasová and Kostya Gak, CNN
Published Sun September 8, 2024
https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/08/europe/ukraine-military-morale-desertion-intl-cmd/index.html
As a battalion commander, Dima was in charge of around 800 men who fought in some of the fiercest, bloodiest battles of the war – most recently near Pokrovsk, the strategic eastern town that is now on the brink of falling to Russia.
But with most of his troops now dead or severely injured, Dima decided he’d had enough.
Two and half years of Russia’s grinding offensive have decimated many Ukrainian units. Reinforcements are few and far between, leaving some soldiers exhausted and demoralized. The situation is particularly dire among infantry units near Pokrovsk and elsewhere on the eastern front line, where Ukraine is struggling to stop Russia’s creeping advances.
CNN spoke to six commanders and officers who are or were until recently fighting or supervising units in the area. All six said desertion and insubordination are becoming a widespread problem, especially among newly recruited soldiers.
Ukrainian soldiers in the area paint a grim picture of the situation. Kyiv’s forces are clearly outnumbered and outgunned, with some commanders estimating there are 10 Russian soldiers to each Ukrainian.
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Based on this, the 2nd article is absolutely true and its only a matter of how HUGE the numbers are.
The 1st article MUST have SOME truth to it(based on common sense) but the source only provides us with information about some Russian desertions, that it sensationalizes and covers up the CONFIRMED desertions about Ukraine desertions. This is what we call PROPAGANDA!
https://abc11.com/politics/zelenskyy-says-ukraines-war-with-russia-is-closer-to-the-end/15345883/
"The plan of victory is strengthening of Ukraine," Zelenskyy told "GMA."
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said he believes the war with Russia is "close to an end" than many believe and called on allies to strengthen Ukraine's army.
"The plan of victory is strengthening of Ukraine," Zelenskyy said during a sit-down interview with "Good Morning America" co-anchor Robin Roberts. "That's why we're asking our friends, our allies, to strengthen us. It's very important."
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He wants NATO to send in troops to replace the army that he killed off by sending them on suicide missions and that have been permanently disabled and that have deserted him because of the WORST military leadership in history making nothing but really, really bad decisions(for NATO-NOT Ukraine) and ZERO smart decisions in 31 months.
He absurdly wants us to think the war is close to the end because Ukraine is about to win. .......if only we just send more weapons and soldiers that have resulted in catastrophic losses so far for Ukraine.
But yes, they have weakened Russia, which is NATO's objective and Zelensky's boss.
https://thehill.com/policy/defense/4895400-volodymyr-zelensky-jd-vance-too-radical/
In the interview, Zelensky said Vance’s “message seems to be that Ukraine must make a sacrifice.”
“The idea that the world should end this war at Ukraine’s expense is unacceptable,” the Ukrainian president continued.
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This is like.........another dimension hypocrisy. Zelensky just sacrificed most of his army and got his country decimated for NATO as the worst military leader in the history of the world and condemns a person with an idea that would stop his country and people from the enormous clobbering. Zelensky canceled elections to keep from being voted out and is now a dictator in a country thats no longer a democracy. He is a NATO salesman, here in our country this week to criticize people in our democracy that won't support his NATO war. The entity that he stands for in every really bad policy and every really bad decision. The one that INTENTIONALLY USED HIS PEOPLE that he's supposed to represent and got them Decimated.
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“Let Mr. Vance read up on the history of the Second World War, when a country was forced to give part of its territory to one particular person,” Zelensky said"
Zelensky had the opportunity BEFORE the war to give up exactly ZERO territory and just agree to not let NATO expand into Ukraine. Zelensky's decision to abandon that option and betray his people (who elected him in 2019 on his platform of promising to negotiate for peace with Russia) for NATO and fight a war with Russia over NATO expansion into Ukraine is the reason Ukraine lost this land.
Zelenskys really bad decisions are the reason that Ukraine is going to lose land!!!
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The audacity of this person, who has made himself a dictator of one of the most corrupt countries in the world coming here to the United States and telling us who we shouldn't vote for in our democratic elections!!!!!!!!!
This is how the giving up the land after you lose a war badly thing works in the REAL WORLD:
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/106160/#107577
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/106160/#107578
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/106160/#107586
Thanks much, commodityman!
It's nice to have you around in order to defeat the block placed on metmike that won't allow him to access anything from the 2 longest threads on Ukraine at MarketForum!!!
What the heck is the matter with people in our government and media???
We actually elevated and invited the leader of one of the most corrupt country’s in the world to come here, that has already fleeced US tax payers for $200,000,000,000 that he used to get his army, people and country decimated with and that, millions were skimmed off by his corrupt government.
Now he’s here…AGAIN, demanding even more money and criticizing us for not coughing up enough support and weapons and criticizing our politicians who have smart ideas to end his long war. to help the people that HES SUPPOSED TO HELP and stop the massive bleeding from every war torn oraface.
And his touted great plan to end the war that he already lost, with this staged theatre by the corrupt gatekeepers pulling his puppet strings is just another retarded plan to escalate even more using our money and our resources!!!
Is this the Twilight zone??
Please , stop letting them do this to us!!
If this is a true democracy that serves the people WE MUST STOP THEM FROM DOING THIS TO US!
STOP BEING PERPETUAL SUCKERS IN DIABOLICAL WAR SCHEMES TO BENEFIT THE MILITARY INDUSTRIAL POLITICAL MEDIA COMPLEX!
We can use this money to help less fortunate people in our country or the world. Or for 100 different positive, productive endeavers here or abroad.
Using it for this, comes in dead last on every sane list of priorities.
In fact, burning it in a fire or burying it 10 feet in the ground is a much better choice than using it to hurt people and make the world a much WORSE PLACE.
There are 100+ countries in the world that could use our assistance. Many of them with people in poverty and in dire need of humanitarian aid.
But look at where we send our money. To an endeavor to kill people and decimate a country to make the world a much worse place........to benefit the self enriching agenda of the corrupt Millitary-Industrial-Political-Media complex in the United States.
At this very minute, the key snake from the corrupt foreign country pilfering us blind is actually IN OUR COUNTRY. When he should be on the most wanted list for his crimes to his people, humanity and Americans, he's actually friggin in our country telling us we haven't given him enough money and resources for his diabolical objective.
Pretending that we didn't flush the previous 200 billion down the toilet.......and that it just wasn't enough because his latest ruinous plan just needs even more money/weapons.
And if anybody speaks out like this with the truth about Zelensky and the war...........our government tries to censor it and tells people that its nothing but Russian disinformation, propaganda and disinformation.
DOJ-more Russia election interference
Started by metmike - Sept. 5, 2024, 9:20 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/107217/
Look at the graph above, man. And that's just a part of it!
Regardless of your party, the numbers above are the same. The authentic truths about the Ukraine war are the same. Our role in perpetuating it for self enriching benefits of the elites in this country.......is the same with BOTH parties benefiting from the legal bribing with lobby and other money from powerful special interest groups/coalitions.
"Ukraine has to improve the military situation in order to go to the peace negotiations in a good way, in a position of strength," Borrell said.
"The Victory Plan is about how to conduct a war. The Peace Plan is about how to get peace," he said.
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Really bad decisions for Ukraine, 31 months in a row. Now they're going for 32 months in a row, with the exact same war prolonging schemes. Ukraine lost the war by every legit standard, now.
Their bargaining position has gone from losing ZERO land if done before they cut off negotiations with Putin BEFORE the war over NATO getting Ukraine.
Ukraine losing more and more land, almost every month. More and more damage EVERY DAY. More and more deaths, permanent disabilities and desertions EVERY SINGLE DAY!
Same plan as always. Keep fighting and claim that:
1. Ukraine is winning or
2. Ukraine can still win if they fight long enough to defeat Russia or
3. Ukraine can't win but they can end with a position of strength to negotiate better terms with.
Meanwhile in the real world it gets worse and worse and at the point where Ukraine's best option is to just surrender to stop the punishment their poor army, people and country are suffering from because Putin is NOT going to lose and the side supporting Ukraine has totally ignored what's best for Ukraine for 31 straight months of catastrophically bad decisions. ..............that have led directly to where this war is right now.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Ukraine anxious after Biden’s exit
By metmike - July 30, 2024, 2:43 p.m.
Re: Re: A 10 YEAR DEAL WITH UKRAINE????!!!!!!!
By metmike - May 26, 2024, 3:59 p.m.
Re: Re: War in Ukraine drags on 9-3-23
By metmike - Oct. 26, 2023, 3:56 p.m.
September 2021 Biden and Zelensky discussing the dynamics of expected war with Russia. Provoke him by cutting off negotiations with Putin and telling him that Ukraine was joining NATO whether he liked it or not. Despite Putin's insistence that he would keep NATO from expanding into Ukraine, even if he had to invade Ukraine to do it.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/98691/#99443
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/98691/#99446
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/99761/#99771
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5-26-24
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9-24-24 update:
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This just shows the complete incompetence of NATO/Ukraine war strategies and leadership and lack of comprehension by the propaganda pushing MSM!
What exactly were/are the NATO led Ukraine troops going to do in Russia after they invaded???
Other than waste limited Ukraine resources to defend itself(and help Putin) and increase the battlefield for Ukrainian suicide missions.
And be used for more absurd propaganda about how Ukraine is winning or they just need to fight awhile longer to win..................as they get decimated worse and worse every month of the 31 months that have featured Zelensky making really bad decisions and 0 really smart ones.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uy6UutG_61U
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An even a better source for free. The first half of the video is about Ukraine. He has tremendous insight and comprehension that our government and media cover up. As a result, he is extremely controversial. His current assessment about Ukraine and Zelensky is exactly right.
The 2nd half of the video is about Israel.
Additional video:
Douglas Macgregor Warns: Nato Vs Russia, US Vs Iran! BIG WARS Are About To Break Out In NEAR Future
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hva9ijfPVyw
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We almost died this weekend!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfxxrVIpuW8
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John Mearsheimer: Zelensky's Strategic MISTAKE Costs Ukraine HUGE Losses! Hezbollah' REVENGE Coming
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPlvqoTaVVk
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My analysis and interpretations are based almost entirely on authentic facts and critical thinking and are totally independent of these sources which come to similar interpretations for similar reasons.
They contradict the complete nonsense we have been fed, using propaganda. The biggest reason for this is that they are not bought and paid for by the military-industrial complex, like our politicians are and don't profit from wars like the media does.
The videos are all long and take up too much time for most people to watch.
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That's exactly what "Saint" Zelensky has been doing!!!!!
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In history, what other leader of another country would come here to demand even more money to go towards their kill-fest black hole, while telling the citizens of the United States who they should vote for???
OK, Netanyahu pulled off a similar stunt, just 2 months ago to get more funding for his genocide in Gaza and got 58 standing ovations from Congress!
https://www.dailysabah.com/opinion/columns/a-standing-ovation-to-genocide
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Like minded, morally bankrupt politicians, devaluing the lives of human beings for their self serving interests!
The Ukrainian president is pitching his plan for victory against Russia ahead of a U.S. presidential election that could shape his country's fate.
It’ll be Harris’ seventh meeting with Zelenskyy. This year, they have met in June and February. In 2023, they met in December and September. In 2022, they met in December and February, five days before Russian President Vladimir Putin dramatically expanded Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, which began in 2014
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How many times has Harris been to the our own southern border???
0 times..........but now she's hiding a 3.5 year southern border crisis causing record and her playing a key role to manage it because she wants votes by pretending that she's strong on the border!
Trump says Ukraine is 'demolished' and dismisses its defense against Russia's invasion
Trump argued Ukraine should have made concessions to Russian President Vladimir Putin in the months before Russia's February 2022 attack, declaring that even “the worst deal would’ve been better than what we have now."
Trump, who has long been critical of U.S. aid to Ukraine, frequently claims that Russia never would have invaded if he was president and that he would put an end to the war if he returned to the White House. But rarely has he discussed the conflict in such detail
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This is 100% true. If Ukraine had agreed to not let NATO expand into its country THERE WOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN AN INVASION OR WAR.
1. Why did Trump take so long to tell us this? I've been posting it relentlessly here for over 2 years with numerous sources of evidence of indisputable truth!
2. Trump says so many crazy things that people can't tell the difference between the truth and a crazy thing and the dishonest MSN is insisting this is a crazy thing.......so the sheeple are believing the MSM instead of the truth.
Zelensky to make urgent in-person plea to Biden and Harris as Ukraine braces for possibility of a Trump presidency
https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/26/politics/zelensky-biden-harris-washington-visit/index.html
In her remarks at the Democratic National Convention last month, Harris was deliberate in taking credit for the US’s response. “Five days before Russia attacked Ukraine, I met with President Zelensky to warn him about Russia’s plan to invade. I helped mobilize a global response – over 50 countries – to defend against Putin’s aggression,” she said. “And as president, I will stand strong with Ukraine and our NATO allies.”
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WOW!
Almost 1 million casualties from both sides. Americans out 200 billion. Costs to rebuild Ukraine 1 trillion. Global inflation and elevated risk of nuclear war and to our security as our adversaries unite. Crushing losses to Ukraine the entire 2.5 years which will result in them surrendering and giving up significant land. When all they had to do was agree to not join NATO. That was it! NO NATO IN UKRAINE........NO INVASION IN FEB 2022.
AND HARRIS IS BOASTING ABOUT THE KEY ROLE THAT SHE PLAYED IN THIS BECAUSE SHE THINKS THAT WILL MAKE HER APPEAR TO BE PRESIDENTIAL AND GET MORE VOTES!
Zelensky’s VICTORY PLAN, that the MSN has been trying to generate blind support for this month with story after story advertising it as if SUDDENLY after 31 straight months of nothing but catastrophically bad decisions, one after the other, getting Ukraine decimated in a long ago lost war…..Zelensky, the worst military leader in history, has a secret plan that FINALLY will bring victory to Ukraine.
The propaganda and lies to this point must be some sort of world record already but this staged nonsense trying to build enthusiasm for what will be more of the same in order to generate additional support TO PILFER MORE MONEY FROM THE UNITED STATES TO SUSTAIN THE KILL-FEST AND IN FACT ESCALATE IT TO START A NUCLEAR WAR TAKES THE IDIOCY TO A NEW LEVEL!
Zelensky had the chance to agree to not letting NATO expand into Ukraine for months and months before the invasion. AND LOSE NOTHING. LOSE 0 land. NO WAR. His fatal decision to fight Russia for NATO began his consecutive streak of non stop really bad decisions that has lasted for over 2.5 years.
For sure a gifted actor with enormous charisma getting support from the governments/politiians and MSM using propaganda, WITH THEM PRESENTING HIM AS A GREAT MILITARY LEADER AND HIM PRETENDING TO BE A GREAT MILITARY LEADER.
100% of the authentic facts/evidence show this is to be just an extension of his ACTING CAREER!
In what world would people actually expect a person with this proven incompetence, from one of the most corrupt countries in the world to suddenly come up with a viable victory plan?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dzxGlcErUo
The poor Ukrainian people want peace. They deserve peace NOT THIS!
Stop dehumanizing the value of human beings, especially the brave soldiers being sent on suicide missions for Zelensky and NATO in order to use them for the self enriching agenda's of morally bankrupt people in the Military-Industrial-Political-Media complex and other powerful coalitions and interest groups that serve as gatekeepers of messages to us(including the US justice department/intel).
Continuing the fraud perpetrated on the American people
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/107607/#107636
The same guy that got his country and people decimated.
The same guy that already took 200 billion from the United States for his losing kill-fest.
The same guy that made himself dictator by cancelling elections and that made one of the most corrupt countries in the world…..even more corrupt.
Is back here….again!
Asking for more money and weapons and telling us the same lies.
This time he wants long range ballistic missiles that will start a nuclear war. Then, he thinks that NATO can beat Russia in a nuclear war.
Thats already galactically outrageous From this arrogant, demanding NATO puppet.
what takes the cake is that he’s in our country, by invitation of the Ds and is also telling us who to vote for in our presidential election.
Clearly this is election interference with Ukraine and the Ds colluding to get Harris elected.
And his touring of the ammunition plant earlier this week As a celebrity signing bombs.
What is wrong with us?
His killfest, using US tax payer money and weapons is making the defense contractors and military industrial complex rich. The ones bribing politicians to subsidize his war. All using the war for self enrichmemt. Pretending to be supporting Ukrainians by making them mass casualties of their war. Getting their country decimated to make the elites wealthier. Dehumanizing these human beings for their agenda.
So he goes there, like a serial killer would go to a gun or knife factory to celebrate the tools he used to kill people or a drug dealer going to his drug pusher to pay homage to the source that allows him to peddle his drugs killing people.
So the Zelensky plan would be like treating a person in the Olympics that couldn't even finish their event.......like they won the Gold Metal.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/9/27/what-is-zelenskyys-victory-plan-against-russia
Ukraine is decimated for 2.5 years and lost a long time ago but Zelensky claims that Ukraine gets all their land back, gets to join NATO (which Russia invaded to prevent) and Russia must pay to rebuild the country.
Now, they'll claim that he and the West are presenting a reasonable plan and that Russia is refusing to agree.........so it's Russia that won't negotiate.
Well, now we're going into month 32 with Zelensky making nothing but really bad decisions that make no sense at all most of the time..........as Russia continues to punish Ukraine for his completely inept leadership(working for NATO not Ukraine).
The longer Zelensky acts like this, the greater the consequence TO EVERYBODY..............except the military-industrial-political-media complex that love him to pieces because he's their pay day.
Incredibly, thru all this suffering, THEY are being massively enriched. They control the messages, they are reaping massive benefits.
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They manufacture reasons to ignore the truth about this, when Trump or Vance or somebody else speaks it:
https://thehill.com/opinion/international/4901765-the-real-reason-trump-hates-zelensky/
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This is like, an insane twisting of the truth........and look who this guy is:
supposedly an expert that people look to for answers and he uses(abuses) that expertise and the trust that people should have in him to sell political hogwash….propaganda….disinformation whatever term is your favorite one.
Insisting that Trump hates Zelensky as he actually demonstrates a person with classic Trump DerangementSyndrome.w
Alexander J. Motyl is a professor of political science at Rutgers University-Newark. A specialist on Ukraine, Russia and the USSR, and on nationalism, revolutions, empires and theory, he is the author of 10 books of nonfiction, as well as “Imperial Ends: The Decay, Collapse, and Revival of Empires” and “Why Empires Reemerge: Imperial Collapse and Imperial Revival in Comparative Perspective.”
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The Ukraine war is Europe’s biggest conflict since World War II and has drained the resources of both sides, with Ukraine getting billions of dollars in help from its Western allies.
Russia’s forces are bigger and better-equipped than Ukraine’s, and in recent months the Russian army has gradually been pushing Ukrainian troops backward in eastern areas.
Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelenskyy visited the United States last week in pursuit of continuing financial and military support as the war approaches its three-year milestone next February.
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The propaganda continues to convince us that Ukraine is a bastion of democracy that we must save or Putin will continue on to invade Europe and that Ukraine WILL WIN, if we just keep fighting long enough.
Reality:
1. Ukraine is one of the most corrupt countries in the world
2. Ukraine is NOT practicing democracy, since Zelensky made himself a dictator by cancelling elections to stay in office AFTER his term expired.
3. We've already spent 200,000,000,000 of US tax dollars to fund the arse kicking of Ukraine We call it "supporting Ukraine" but the truth is if we had not done this and instead, agreed to not have NATO expand into Ukraine. .......NONE OF IT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED.
4. Even Ukraine would not have agreed to this and we let Putin invade with no resistance, the war would have ended quickly with minimal casualties on both sides and the results MUCH BETTER THAN SUSTAINING THE BRUTAL FIGHTING WITH MAXIMUM DAMAGE TO BOTH SIDES FOR MORE THAN 2.5 YEARS.
5. The Zelensky/Biden/NATO strategy has resulted in the most extreme damages possible for 31 straight months as a result of nothing but catastrophically bad decisions, 1 after another. Zelensky's great Victory Plan, if you can believe this, will actually ramp that up to a new level of catastrophically bad that greatly increases the chance of a nuclear war which destroys all of us.
6. Now, instead of the original terms offered by Putin......just agreeing to not Join NATO and losing nothing..........then, having the option to negotiate peace for many months, Zelensky has shot his country in the foot so many times for so many months, losing more and more and more land the entire time.........Ukraines best option is to just surrender because they've obliterated all of their negotiating power with loss after loss after loss.
7. From the get go, I was NOT supportive of Putin's invasion but just want what's best for THE UKRAINIAN PEOPLE. I've adjusted what that means based on the real world in this war as Zelensky gets his country decimated. Sadly, the reality now is that surrender is their best option because Zelensky has completely squandered all of his power to negotiate with his consecutive, horrific decisions that just increased Russia's control. Honestly, if I had been able to pick a path to absolutely maximize the incredible damage........it would exactly mimic the one that Zelensky has chosen for what's now 32 months.
Who does this to their country and still get's invited to the United States as a hero with a great plan for victory???????
What team with an 0-31 record, would be expected to win..... facing a team that's 31-0 in the next game, with more than half their team being dead, permanently disabled or deserted(while their undefeated opponent ADDS TO THEIR TEAM/ADVANTAGES), using the same tactics that cost them the previous 31 games?
Please stop using the greatly suffering Ukrainian people for this diabolical agenda. Please stop forcing the American people to be a key part of this diabolical agenda.
Who is doing it?
The Military-Industrial-Political-Media complex that is greatly benefiting and serving as the gatekeepers for all the messages/propaganda we get!!!!!
The MSM and politicians are incredibly silent, just days after Zelensky unveiled his victory plan.
Even they are running out of ways to spin a devastating decimation by Russia, into Ukraine defeating Russia because the defeat is becoming impossible to cover up any more.
Maybe, this means we can finally end the war and stop the horrendous bleeding by so many innocent human beings that didn’t deserve this.
Russia is ramping up its military recruitment before ground conditions deteriorate
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https://kyivindependent.com/biden-may-advance-ukraines-nato-membership-bid-status-ft-reports/
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This is so retarded. It's like they can't comprehend what's really happening and why and just keep doing things TO MAKE IT WORSE AND WORSE.
Refusing to give up on NATO expanding into Ukraine, even after losing the war being fought ENTIRELY OVER NATO EXPANDING INTO UKRAINE is so delusional and EXTRAORDINARILY DANGEROUS BEYOND ANYTHING THAT ANYBODY HAS EVER DONE BECAUSE IT LIKELY MEANS NUCLEAR WAR WITH RUSSIA.
It actually proves Putins case. NATO only cares about expanding into Ukraine and destroying Russia!!!
Thats the only thing they gain. Ukraine is one of the worlds most corrupt country’s AND ITS GOTTEN EVEN WORSE. Zelensky has made himself a dictator to stay in office.
The hogwash propaganda we get FROM NATO aligning sources is just a big lie to get More money and support from us for the diabolical objectives of NATO.
Biden is willing to cause WW3 and nuclear weapons over this agenda, instead of giving up on NATOs continued expansion to surround and destroy Russia.
Why would he do this to Americans???
Because his NATO agenda is MORE IMPORTANT THAN US.
Just like VP Harris met with Zelensky 7 times before she paid her 1st visit to our own southern border to address a huge crisis in our country.
Harris FINALLY WENT TO THE SOUTHERN BORDER FOR THE FIRST TIME LAST WEEK WHILE SERVING AS BIDENS KEY SOUTHERN BORDER PERSON.
SHE ONLY WENT TO PRETEND TO BE STRONG ON THE BORDER AHEAD OF THE ELECTION TO GET VOTES!!
This administration continues to put NATOs plan FAR ahead of the interests of the United States.
That is crystal clear based on the AUTHENTIC FACTS and proof of it above.
There is just no excuse for them to concentrate numerous times more resources to sustain a kill fest in 1 of the worlds most corrupt countries than to use it to address a MAJOR illegal immigration crisis in their own country.
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what’s even more insane is that Biden/harris refusing to try to manage the border crisis is costing the US at least 150 billion of extra spending on the illegal immigration problem after they’ve arrived.
Not to fix it but additional costs because of it…….and they know this but INTENTIONALLY ALLOWED/CAUSED IT.
Again, I am very pro immigration and for giving them a path to citizenship.
BUT THIS IS NUTS!! We need control over the process that only lets in a number of people that doesn’t massively over burden our country. …..like is happening right now. And know who they are.
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MORE IMPORTANTLY …..GIVE THE POOR PEOPLE OF UKRAINE THE PEACE THEY MOST WANT INSTEAD OF USING THEM FOR THE NATO OBJECTIVE. STOP KILLING THEM AND GETTING THEIR COUNTRY DECIMATED AND CALLING IT……..SUPPORTING UKRAINE.
My position supports Ukraine amd Ukrainians. The HUMAN BEINGS, INCLUDING BRAVE SOLDIERS BEING SENT ON SUICIDE MISSIONS FOR NATO.
STOP THIS CHARADE BEFORE WE ALL DIE IN A NUCLEAR WAR.
We should note last night at the VP debate, the moderators chose NOT to ask a question about the war in Ukraine.
200 billion from US taxpayers . Zelensky in our country all last week drumming up support for more. 1 million in casualties. Potential nuclear war AND NOT 1 QUESTION????
The reason is that they didn't want JD Vance to tell America THE TRUTH. THEY WERE CENSORING JD VANCE'S INFORMED OPINION ABOUT UKRAINE. 100% that was it because the moderators and their advisors at CBS spent weeks deciding what questions to ask. This was 100% intentional.
Ukraine Is Still Too Corrupt to Join the West
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The massive money/weapons gushing into Ukraine has greatly INCREASED CORRUPTION. Graft, bribes and fraud of all types. If you already have one of the worlds most corrupt governments as they did and you suddenly shower them with tens of billions in unaccounted for stuff.............. guess what happens???
In addition, Zelensky has used the war to turn their democracy into his dictatorship in order to stay in power. He cancelled elections earlier this year when his term ran out.
In 2019, Zelensky's platform to be elected was based on:
1. Negotiating peace with Russia
2. Stamping out widespread corruption
3. Only remaining in office thru his 1st term
He didn't just break those promises, he violated everything a president should be for their people. He decided to put NATO's interest first because they offered to make him a global hero................all he needed to do was sacrifice his people and country by hosting a war and sending his brave soldiers on suicide missions(instead of agreeing to NOT JOIN NATO for peace as HE PROMISED HIS PEOPLE).
The worst military leader in the history of the world, making nothing but bad decisions for 31 straight months(losing over half of his army to death, permanent disabilities and desertions) and having the worst "Victory Plan" yet last week to provoke nuclear war instead of acknowledging the reality of being completely decimated in their loss to Russia.
Don't believe any of the nonsense about Zelensky still being popular and trusted with fake polls and fake news.
What if we had a president that got over half of our military wiped out and country decimated, our lives much worse(except for the government enriching itself ). Caused bad corruption TO GET EVEN WORSE, then cancelled elections?
Does it make sense that the majority of Americans would strongly support that person?
We have a democracy and they would be gone when their term expired. No chance they would even run for a 2nd term, facing a landslide loss by the outraged people.
In fact, that person would likely be IMPEACHED BY BOTH HOUSES well before the next election because we have a balance of power and a democracy!
Ukraine DOES NOT!
NATO is controlling Zelensky right now because they want to expand into Ukraine in order to surround and destroy Russia.
Zelensky didn't just show up in our country last week.
His visit was planned for weeks and served as an attention seeking, staged marketing scheme/theater by this administration and NATO to drum up even more support for the kill-fest that was lost a very long time ago.
"Fight until we defeat Russia" is the forever battle cry!
Look at the latest battlefield below, man.
The battle cry should be "fight until the last drop of brave Ukrainian soldiers blood has been wasted on suicide missions............but at least they killed lots of Russians before dying!!! (and enriched the military-industrial-political-media complex in the United States which serves as our message gatekeepers with propaganda)
https://understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-september-24-2024
CBS is one of those message gatekeepers that censor the truth and use propaganda. That's why they couldn't allow JD Vance, a person with gifted communication skills to answer a question on Ukraine
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https://www.sanders.senate.gov/op-eds/defense-contractors-are-bilking-the-american-people/
We apparently have unlimited amounts of money for nuclear weapons, fighter planes, bombs, and tanks. But somehow we can’t summon the resources to provide health care for all, child care, affordable housing, and other basic needs.
The United States remains the world’s dominant military power. Alone, we account for roughly 40 percent of global military spending; the U.S. spends more on its military than the next 10 countries combined, most of whom are allies.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military%E2%80%93industrial_complex
Bribed/enriched politicians are the ones that authorize this from our tax payer funds.
I totally get spending money to strengthen our own defense. But we DRAINING out stockpile of weapons to WEAKEN our security by provoking Russia.
This is exactly why CBS would not bring up Ukraine last night:
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trumps-vp-pick-vance-opposes-us-aid-ukraine/story?id=112036938
In April, Vance broke with Senate Republican leaders to vote against a foreign aid package that included nearly $61 billion for Ukraine, asserting Moscow's threat to global stability had been overstated.
"Vladimir Putin is not Adolf Hitler. It doesn't mean he's a good guy, but he has significantly less capability than the German leader did," Vance said in a speech on the Senate floor.
"If Ukraine thinks that it's getting another $60 billion supplemental out of the United States Congress, there's no way," he later told reporters.
Vance has also defended his pessimistic outlook on Ukraine's ability to triumph over Russia, calling himself a "realist."
In an April op-ed in the New York Times titled "The Math on Ukraine Doesn't Add Up," Vance argued that the U.S. could not possibly provide enough munitions to Ukraine to turn the tides of the war and called Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelenskyy's goal of restoring the country to its 1991 boundaries "fantastical."
At the Munich Security Conference in February, Vance also said that focusing on Ukraine was distracting Washington from confronting other challenges such as China.
"There are a lot of bad guys all over the world. And I'm much more interested in some of the problems in East Asia right now than I am in Europe," Vance said.
https://kyivindependent.com/zelensky-to-publicly-unveil-victory-plan-in-coming-days-podolyak-says/
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This is just so retarded, intelligence insulting, staged propaganda based on manufactured realities and lies for their completely counterproductive war which is punishing EVERYBODY..........except the military-industrial-political-media complex getting wealthy from it, while serving as the gatekeepers. Feeding us all the fake news to manipulate us for their self serving agenda.
With Trump's chances of winning going much higher, maybe we can finally END THIS WAR!!! I would consider voting for him for just that.
https://newsukraine.rbc.ua/news/russia-strikes-ukraine-with-900-bombs-over-1728814349.html
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And the response by the worst military leader in the history of the world, making bad decisions, one after the other for 32 months, as Ukraine gets completely decimated, worse all the time and after clearly losing the war a very long time ago by every reasonable standard and having most of their army gone........."we will win the war with my magical mystery "victory plan", get all of our land back and join NATO!"
This is the latest.
Ukraine lost the war a very long time ago and we should note with the green circles, refusing to negotiate and now refusing to surrender means that Russia will just take more and more territory. The map below is 99.9% red for pete's sake. How can this be any more obvious???
The absurd propaganda is making up things that don't exist or can't exist to sustain the war as long as possible for the benefits of the military-industrial-political-media complex........while the human being causalities pile up and the families of the human beings suffer too.
These people are self centered, sick SOBs that use human beings as pawns for self enriching schemes.
And we let it happen by allowing them to brainwash us with propaganda so they can take 200,000,000,000 of our money and claim its "to support Ukraine".
Look at the map, man!!!!
ALL OF IT WENT TOWARDS MAXIMIZING THE TIME FOR UKRAINE TO BE CONTINUALLY DECIMATED!
https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-october-13-2024
Zelenskyy victory plan.
This is turning into buffoonish theater
After 31 months of making bad decisions and losing the war by a lot And a long time ago.
After we spent 200,000,000,000 to support getting Ukraine decimated. As much as the entire rest of the world combined. (Dang, think about what good that money could have done)
After almost 1,000,000 casualties from both sides and Ukraines army over half gone.
Now, suddenly the worlds worst military leader in history has a victory plan.
why didn’t he just use it 2.6 years ago?
hundreds of billions of dollars ago?
1 million casualties ago?
Americans! stop letting them doi this to you!
Stop believing all the lies.
Do some independent reading and thinking.
Take back control From the self enriching military-industrial-political-media complex.
Why didn’t Zelensky tell us what his victory plan was last month when he was here the entire week to pay homage to the military/industrial complex, ask for more money/weapons from the political complex and have the dishonest, ratings seeking media complex send out hundreds of propaganda news articles touting saint zelensky and his brilliant victory plan.
Now, Zelensky is traveling around Europe doing the same thing in other countries and advertising his secret victory plan…..yet to be revealed .
Ohhhhhhhhh, the suspense! the suspense! I can’t stand it anymore, I have to know what victory plan is to win the war against Russia!
Please, please, please Mr. Zelensky tell us what your victory plan is.
We“ll do anything to find out……even pay another 100 billion!
What's that you say? i just stated the plan?
OK, another 100 billion coming up!
what’s that you say? Trump is president now?
The war is over? No more wasted money? No more wounded? No more dead people? No threat of WW3 and nuclear war?
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Restore elections and democracy in Ukraine so the people can boot the psychopath, NATO puppet, (that made himself a dictator)getting them obliterated out! Stop contributing to even MORE corruption in one of the worlds most corrupt countries by gushing out hundreds of billions worth of free stuff that Ukrainians politicians have been using to enrich themselves.
https://www.newsweek.com/us-military-expand-hungary-kecskemet-air-base-russia-nato-1969141
This is exactly what Putin is fighting the war for..........to keep NATO out of Ukraine. NATO has broken every promise to Russia about expanding, as they surround and try to destroy Russia. Don't believe the NATO propaganda gushing out from our dishonest media and government.
It's a completely retarded idea to claim that Russia is a threat to Europe and NATO countries. It's 100% the polar opposite.
https://fas.org/publication/nato-tactical-nuclear-weapons-exercise-and-base-upgrades/
Map of 1990, after NATO promised that they would not expand:
Map of 2022, after 3 decades of the broken promise......and NATO's main goal to EXPAND IN EVERY COUNTRY SURROUNDING RUSSIA.
Putin drew a line in the sand and said "You're not getting Ukraine because this is part of the "motherland".
NATO getting Ukraine would just mean NATO nuclear weapons, like the ones in this exercise moved into Ukraine and aimed at Russia. Of course that's what it would mean. Why do you think they are conducting this NATO nuclear weapons exercise right now?
Would the United states let Russia expand into Cuba, Mexico and Canada and arm those countries with nuclear weapons aimed at the United States????
That's exactly what we have been doing and continue to do to Russia..........and absurdly calling it "defensive".
https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/why-nato-has-become-flash-point-russia-ukraine
Russian officials say that the U.S. government made a pledge to Soviet leaders not to expand the alliance’s eastern borders, a commitment they say came during the flurry of diplomacy following the fall of the Berlin Wall in 1989 and surrounding the reunification of Germany in 1990. Proponents of this narrative often cite the words that U.S. Secretary of State James A. Baker said to Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev in February 1990, that “there would be no extension of NATO’s jurisdiction for forces of NATO one inch to the east.” They say the United States and NATO have repeatedly betrayed this verbal commitment in the decades since, taking advantage of Russia’s tumultuous post-Soviet period and expanding the Western alliance several times, all the way to Russia’s doorstep in the case of the Baltic states.
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How Gorbachev was misled over assurances against NATO expansion
Also see:
John Dobson, The Perfidious West: Why Putin’s suspicion is justified, Sunday Guardian, 23 December 2017
Andrew Bacevich, When Washington Assured Russia NATO Would Not Expand, The American Conservative, 20 December 2017
Eric Margolis, No to Eastward NATO Expansion? 'Sorry Chump, You Didn't Have It in Writing', Common Dreams, 17 December 2017
Newly Declassified Documents: Gorbachev Told NATO Wouldn't Move Past East German Border, National Interest, 12 December 2017
Professional actor, Zelensky was elected in 2019 on a promise of obtaining peace with Russia(and to fight corruption.
NOT to join NATO!
When Biden took office in 2021, he saw an opportunity to use his many years of contacts and participating in Ukrainian corruption, acquired during his time as VP in cahoots with Hunter, to exploit that and turn it into NATO gold in the form of recruiting Zelensky to a NATO-centric world. Convincing him to sacrifice his people and country and break his promises to Ukraine in order to obtain a much greater GLOBAL/NATO leadership position that focused on destroying Russia/Putin. Be a great hero and NATO salesman, traveling to all the Western countries, using his elite charisma to sell complete NATO bs.
During that time, he has been the world's worst military leader in history. Making 1 blunderous decision after another for more than 2.5 years. Turned half of his army into casualties, got his country decimated. Pilfered 200 billion from US tax payers. But he gets away with it because the media and our government manufacture a fairy tale version of what is really happening.
The facts/evidence, maps, history and authentic truth back this up entirely.
The benefactors are the military-industrial-political-media empire that serve as message gatekeepers, brainwashing us with their lies/propaganda to enrich themselves and their self serving agenda.
And this diabolical agenda was paid for by you and me. Our tax dollars were spent to finance this to the tune of $200,000,000,000!
Defense contractors getting rich.
Politicians being enriched by them with massive legal and not so legal bribes to spend our money to supposedly HELP Ukraine…….that REALLY wants peace with Russia.
blockbuster ratings and activist, dishonest journalists being rewarded.
Ukrainian politicians making out like bandits with corrupt schemes to get some of it because it’s gushing into one of the most corrupt countries in the world!!!
The American citizen has been the VICTIM of the most diabolical scheme of the internet age.
But our losses are a fraction of those who live in Ukraine and Russia that we used our money to get decimated for the self enriching scheme of the elites.
All the brave soldiers sent on suicide missions without a choice. The millions of family members suffering their losses. Their wives, children, parents and siblings losing their brave soldier(s) in the family forever.
Sacrificed to enrich those mentioned above who see them, not as human beings with value but as pawns to manipulate to accomplish their greedy, self serving objectives!
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with Ukraine being completely decimated and russia having won the war a very long time ago, their objective now is to try to drag their payday out as long as possible……..even if it means Ukraine losing more and more territory every day. Thousands of additional deaths. Pretend that Ukraine will win…….if we just fight long enough.
Completely made up and no semblance to the reality.
however, with most Americans only getting the made up version……they can continue to manipulate us!
If you’re reading this, then you should know better!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dzxGlcErUo
This isn't a science fiction tv show...........IT'S OUR WORLD IN 2024!
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The so called Victory plan, with weeks of fanfare, advertising and propaganda to intentionally soften up the brains of the sheeple in the West, USING BRAINWASHING 101 is yet another catastrophically bad idea from the worlds worst military leader, NATO puppet.
Ukraine lost this war well over a year ago by every reasonable metric and since then, the propaganda from the message gatekeepers keeps it going with absurd, fairy tale, false narratives about Ukraine winning so that we will keep funding the kill-fest with hundreds of billions of OUR money.
The Victory plan is, IN ESSENCE TO START A NEW WAR. THE NEW WAR, FEATURING UKRAINE AS A MEMBER OF NATO AND GIVE UKRAINE ALL THE RIGHTS OF A NATO COUNTRY........AND PRETENDING THAT RUSSIA INVADED A NATO COUNTRY.
Since most of Ukraine's military NO LONGER EXISTS. IT WOULD REQUIRE NATO TROOPS, INCLUDING FROM THE US TO BE PART OF IT. THIS IS ABSOLUTELY PART OF BEING A NATO COUNTRY THAT GETS INVADED.
AND OF COURSE, HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS MORE IN OUR MONEY AND ATTACKING RUSSIA DEEP IN RUSSIAN TERRITORY WITH ALL OF OUR NATO MIGHT/FORCES.
If people fall for this one, after more than 2.5 years of lies that have been proven to be lies which have decimated Ukraine (NOT supported Ukraine and given them the peace they want) and enriched the elites, then they deserve nuclear WW3 for being so stupid and gullible.
On the other hand..........those responsible deserve to be denied and the time is NOW!
Stop the insanity. End the war now!
This war is being fought by Russia, for the entire reason of keeping NATO OUT OF UKRAINE after Putin drew a line in the sand on NATOs expansion.
It's retarded rationale, that after Russia won the war by an extraordinarily wide margin, that the loser by a wide margin would be treated as the winner.
For NATO to expand into Ukraine and fight Russia directly. Sending powerful long range missiles and bombs deeply into Russia, with NATO troops replacing the dead ones in Ukraine. Ukraine getting all its territory back as if the last 2.5 years never happened.
Just because Zelensky says it and its part of a plan named "Victory Plan"
This would be like changing the rules in the Olympics.
Instead of awarding the Gold to the person finishing in first place, let's give it to somebody that had to pull out of the race because of an injury or got disqualified.
And pretend they won the race by making up a race that never happened which featured a fake winner, so they could get the gold.
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If this didn't cost us a penny, it would be another horrible, counter productive plan following in the footsteps of all the others..... but instead it comes at an even GREATER COST TO EVERY AMERICAN!
1. Hundreds of billions more to fund it.
2. Now we would be OBLIGATED BY NATO COMMITMENTS to send thousands of our soldiers to fight in this war.
3. Greatly ramping up the risk of nuclear war
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Ukraine is one of the worlds most corrupt countries being led by a self appointed dictator and psychopath. We've only rewarded him and made Ukraine MORE CORRUPT and less of a democracy. And now..........he thinks Ukraine should be made part of NATO? Actually, the puppet master pulling his strings IS NATO and THEY WANT UKRAINE so badly that they will get it obliterated.
Zelensky didn't stage this thing for weeks by himself.
First with a week long trip to the US, where he paid homage to the factories making bombs and war machines and meeting with key politicians....... then to Europe, where he continued to sell the great Victory plan that was finally unveiled today.
Politicians in ALL of these countries had to extend an invite and be part of this NATO propaganda plan. A person from a foreign country can't just show up in other countries, like ours and travel around like a huge celebrity for days, while they push agenda for THEIR CAUSE............UNLESS ITS PART OF A DEVIOUS PLAN THAT OUR POLITICIANS ARE EMBRACING AND DESIGNING TO BAMBOOZLE US TO SUSTAIN THEIR SELF ENRICHMENT AND AGENDA.
THIS WAS ALL STAGED THEATER WHILE ZELENSKY WAS HERE! PURE PROPAGANDA!!!
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Those are just words above. Below is the actual battlefield today, after 2.5+ years of following all the other Zelensky/NATO/BIden victory plans!
https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-october-13-2024
1. Americans are out $200 billion.
2. Ukrainians have lost a great deal of land, 1 trillion in damages
3. Ukraine was already a corrupt country and didn't need this to make it worse
4. Ukraine and Russia have suffered almost 1 million in casualties. Brave soldiers sent on suicide missions with millions in family members, HUMAN BEINGS suffering tremendous losses. These are not just pawns for the elites to accomplish self serving/enriching agendas. They are HUMAN BEINGS!!
5. The world is threatened with nuclear war
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We should not be using military advice from the person that could have just agreed with Russia, 3 years ago to not let NATO expand into Ukraine with all of those losses above NEVER HAPPENING.
We should not be treating this person like he is a great military leader.
We should not continue to reward the nefarious entities taking us down this disastrous path.
How bad does it need to get before there is a reality wake up call?
THE PIED PIPER OF UKRAINE
BLINDLY FOLLOWING DIABOLICAL LEADERSHIP ON A WORSENING RUINOUS PATH!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_impact_of_the_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine
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A sobering 37 per cent of respondents to the survey reported that they had lost an immediate or extended family member in the last 24 months.
With Zelensky sending his BRAVE, PATRIOTIC soldiers on suicide missions!
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Economic impact of the Russian invasion of Ukraine
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_impact_of_the_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine
Disruptions to economic output and trade, as well as other war-related costs, such as removing debris, would likely add another $499 billion, it said.(raising that number to around $1 trillion)
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Americans: WE PLAYED A KEY ROLE IN DOING THIS TO THEM! NOW, ZELENSKY HAS A NEW PLAN TO MAXIMIZE THE LENGTH OF THE LONG LOST WAR AND MAXIMIZE DAMAGE TO HIS AND OTHER NATO COUNTRIES.
IT INCLUDES MORE OF OUR MONEY/WEAPONS AND NOW, WE NEED TO SACRIFICE OUR BRAVE SOLDIERS AND TAKE US CLOSER TO A NUCLEAR WAR!
Trump’s running mate, JD Vance, had rattled Ukraine with his public plan to end the war by establishing demilitarized zones between the two nations and having Ukraine pledge not to join NATO.
Zelensky called Vance “too radical” in response.
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Trump has lost what ability that he once had to communicate specific plans and ideas in a way that people can understand it. What will things be like in 4 years if he wins?
Trump is 1,000% correct but he sounds like a delusional loose cannon about everything when he talks. Even when correct, he mixes in crazy things that don't make sense because THE MAN HAS A MEDICALLY SIGNIFICANT CASE OF DELUSIONAL DISORDER which destroys his credibility.
JD Vance is the only person on either ticket that has the plans and a gifted ability to communicate them. He is EXACTLY RIGHT about Ukraine pledging to not join NATO. If only Biden and NATO hadn't hijacked Zelensky in 2021 and turned him into a NATO puppet,. Promises that they would assist Zelensky to defeat Russia if he would sacrifice his country and brave soldiers for the NATO cause. So he chose NATO and betrayed his country. He's still doing it after over half of his army is no longer with us. NATO and Biden dearly want him fast tracked in but there are too many NATO countries that won't go for that. And Ukraine doesn't meet all the requirements anyways.
https://www.brightquest.com/delusional-disorder/grandiose-delusions/
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https://www.tagtik.co.uk/en/news/conflicts/putin-ready-to-end-war-with-trump-s-help.html#
Volodymyr Zelensky, for his part, urges Trump to reveal his plans for "ending the conflict". "If he knows how to end the war, he should tell us today," he told news agency Bloomberg this week. After all, these are plans he absolutely must know in order to prepare the country for possible threats to its independence.
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Zelensky being stupid again and the propaganda trying to make him smart. Everybody without captured brains knows that Ukraine MUST AGREE TO NOT JOIN NATO!! That was it before the war. That was it during the past 2.5 years of war. That is it in October 2024. That will be it in 2025!
https://thehill.com/opinion/international/4884798-the-trump-vance-plan-for-ukraine-is-insane/
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Using math to define this person's definition of insanity.
2 + 2 =4 is Trump/Vance/metmike insanity. No war. End of war.
2 + 2 = 14 is NATO/Zelensky/Biden math It can NEVER WORK IN THE REAL WORLD! NEVER!!!! All the negative consequences the past 2.5 years (with benefits to the Military-Industrial-Political-Media complex) are from applying this pathological math.
If Ukraine is not allowed into NATO, it may begin to pursue nuclear weapons, according to Zelenskyy.
"The outcome is either Ukraine will be a nuclear power — and that will be our protection — or we should have some kind of alliance. Other than NATO, today we don’t know of any effective alliances."
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1. Dead, permanently disabled and desertion describes over half of the Ukrainian troops/military(thanks to the worst military leader in history getting his brave soldiers killed on suicide missions for NATO). Suggesting that he will suddenly have extra troops to replace US troops is a retarded military delusion. Why does NATO even need all these outposts with US troops anyway??? Why wouldn't those individual European countries replace US troops with troops FROM THEIR OWN COUNTRY???
2. Threatening the world with Ukraine getting nuclear weapons if they don't let NATO expand into Ukraine is another retarded position.
The long touted Zelensky Victory Plan is even more retarded than we imagined and no amount of window dressing and propaganda can hide the galactic absurdity anymore from people with a few logically thinking brain cells.
Even when this was obvious 2 years ago..........now it's 100 times more obvious and what they could possibly gain, even if they won, which is IMPOSSIBLE would be worth .00001 the value of what has ALREADY BEEN LOST!
The risk reward has been something like 1,000,000 to 1!!!
It's WAY past time for ending the war and work on rebuilding Ukraine. just tell Russia that NATO will NOT be expanding into Ukraine.
Thousands of men have abandoned their posts, blaming poor conditions on the front lines and open-ended service.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/10/21/why-is-ukraines-army-facing-a-desertion-crisis
However, British daily The Times also cited figures from the prosecutor general which, it said, showed some 51,000 criminal cases were initiated for desertion and abandonment of a military unit between January and September of this year. El Pais newspaper cited a closer figure of 45,543 desertions between January and August this year, which it said was data from the Prosecutor General’s Office which had been leaked to the Ukrainian press.
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It's insane that WE are causing this(our money/weapons) and insanely, justifying it as "supporting Ukraine" when all Zelensky needed to do was agree to not let NATO expand into their country.
Ukrainians WANT PEACE!!! Zelensky was elected in 2019 on a campaign promise of bringing peace with Russia. There has never been a worse military leader or greater violation of a political promise. Or greater betrayal of a president to his people. At least that I know of.
Those of you that are abhorred at what Trump did to our country after the 2020 election(that includes me), consider what Zelensky has done to his people/country is 1 million times worse. He not only wiped out over half his military(including desertions and permanent disabilities) and all of them have families that make the losses to them in the millions of people(37% of Ukrainians have a family member or friend that died in the war), incurred almost 1 trillion in damages to the country and he has canceled elections and made himself dictator, while being elevated to a hero in the NATO countries. Tell me how that stacks up to what Trump did after the 2020 election and on January 6, 2021?
Yet some of the same people that despise Trump for what he did, love Zelensky because they have been spoon fed galactic lies about who he is and what he has REALLY done.........which is 1 million times worse than what Trump did. All for NATO, none for Ukraine.
I am NOT trying to minimize what Trump did. He should be in prison for it, not running for president. I am putting it into perspective to help people understand WHAT ZELENSKY HAS DONE!
Stop believing the complete made up propaganda and start caring about the human beings we are killing and their families. The $200 billion we spent to do it that could have gone to 1,000 great causes.
And the MSM continues to bombard us with magical mystery, manufactured stories to convince us that Ukraine is actually winning the war............if we send another XX billion and just keep fighting for XX more months, then Ukraine will emerge totally victorious.
https://www.msn.com/en-za/news/other/putin-desperate-russia-on-the-verge-of-meltdown/ar-AA1sHVKG
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MSM and politicians: We are colluding to control all the information, interpretations and false narratives. Don't look for yourself to see that authentic facts. Just keep believing us. Keep this war going as long as possible so that Ukraine can win.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dzxGlcErUo
Dear corrupt, dishonest and biased sources; What would be an alternate scenario to the path that you've chosen that would have been WORSE for Ukraine?
Answer: There isn't one. You've picked the path that MAXIMIZES the damage to Ukrainians, Americans and anybody outside of the military-industrial-political-media complex and NATO interests.
What would have been a better path?
Almost anything but this path!!
Zelensky only had to agree with Putin to not let NATO expand into Ukraine to avoid all of this. Instead, NATO hijacked his brain and loyalty to fellow Ukrainians and stole/captured it for NATOs agenda. It couldn't have been accomplished without Biden's direct intervention/meetings with Zelensky in 2021.
Ukrainians have always wanted peace with Russia as a top priority. They still want that. What we have done to these poor people, using them like non human, disposable pawns for the NATO and military-industrial-political-media complex's greedy, self serving agendas is diabolical!
Give Ukrainians the peace they have been pleading for!
A huge reason for the massive desertion of the Ukrainian army is that THEY DON'T BELIEVE IN SACRIFICING THEIR LIVES FOR A NATO WAR WHEN UKRAINE WANTS PEACE. Not only do they know they lost already using the real world which they live in (vs the fake news world the rest of us live in) THEY WANT PEACE!
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ukrainian-front-close-to-collapse/ar-AA1sHzI6
For over a year, Russia has been continuing its offensive. The Ukrainian operation in Kursk has not forced the Russian army to slow down its advance in an of its key areas.
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Here's the last update of the battlefields. Russia continues to advance and capture new territory
https://understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-october-17-2024
The worst military leader in history needs to resign, ASAP since his insane demands for peace are delusional. Especially that NATO fast track Ukraine in and start a new war with NATO troops replacing the ones from Ukraine that he turned into disposable casualties for his NATO agenda.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/10/23/ukraine-war-global-korea-iran-russia-nato-escalation/
There’s been some slippage in foreign support for Ukraine at precisely the moment Ukraine needs more support, not less. The Ukrainian military recently formed 14 new brigades together representing a 10-percent increase in its ground combat force structure. But a slowdown in foreign assistance means 10 of the brigades lack heavy equipment, Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky claimed.
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Ukraine just increased it's ground combat force structure by 10% but we just aren't sending them enough assistance to defeat Russia??????
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJjDXyXP2As
More than half of Ukraines military are casualties.......from death, permanent disabilities and desertion and those numbers are growing.
Dear MSM: I have a great idea. Push for Ukraine to agree that NATO will NOT expand into Ukraine to get the war over instead of constantly being a NATO cheerleader and war forever advocate.
The biggest reason is............that's what the Ukrainian people want!!!! They want peace not NATO. They want a democracy and elections, not a dictator, betrayer Zelensky.
They want the corruption to stop, not made worse by the United States and Ukrainian government exploiting this for their self serving interests.
Most of all, they want an end to the suicide missions their brave soldiers have been sent on for NATO the past 2.5+ years. They want an end to their country being destroyed and everybody in Ukraine being decimated by the losses to property and life NOT NATO!
NATO is what our diabolical military-industrial-political-media wants. What right do we have to do this to them? Use Ukraine and Ukrainians like this? Their blood is on our hands because its our tax dollars and support keeping this kill-fest going.
Politicians love wars and the U.S. is vulnerable
Started by metmike - Oct. 29, 2023, 10:36 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/100127/
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WE picked this fight, to benefit us and for NATO!
Wake up Americans!!!
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Started by metmike - June 4, 2024, 4:37 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/104579/
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Repeating "We are supporting Ukraine" We are supporting Ukraine" "We are supporting Ukraine"
"We are supporting Ukraine" We are supporting Ukraine" "We are supporting Ukraine"
"We are supporting Ukraine" We are supporting Ukraine" "We are supporting Ukraine"
........1 million times will still not change the authentic facts showing what WE DID TO UKRAINE!
Give these poor people peace, man!!! They are human beings, just like us........except with tremendous suffering BECAUSE OF US. They have families, feelings, rights and needs. Stop depriving them of those things and pretending that we are doing it for them! No we aren't!
Zelensky Reveals First Step To Ending Russia-Ukraine War
metmike: REAL ideas to end the war fast. Any one of these would do it!
1. The MSM needs to stop using complete nonsense and manufactured realities for propaganda to support the war that was lost a long time ago being used to intentionally sustain the war as long as possible
2. Agree that NATO will not expand into Ukraine.
3. Restore elections to Ukrainians so they can boot the NATO puppet, betraying dictator causing the war out
4. Elect Trump
Applying just 1 of those above would likely end the war fast. We need to do this for the Ukrainians, the human beings, like you and me that want and deserve PEACE WITH RUSSIA(not NATO). Scroll up for the reasons/evidence.
BTW, I am not voting for Trump but just saying that he will end the war fast.
An especially farcical aspect to this war has been the MSM constantly squawking about Iran and N.Korea helping Russia.
Sometimes even China, India and Brazil.
Never mind that the US is providing most of the weapons and much of the support to Ukraine.
Ukraine is allowed to have NATO allies that are controlling Ukraine and basically keeping it on life support to keep the war going as long as possible with monumental assistance.
But Russia is not allowed to have allies or assistance, trying to get the war over with ASAP. And OF COURSE those allies will be adversaries of the United States, almost by definition.
The reason this works in the minds of the brainwashed is because the propaganda doesn't tell you what the war is about.............stopping NATO from advancing into Ukraine as part of their continued objective to destroy Russia.
If people understood the censored truth, they would have better objective discernment to know what is really going on.
Putin is ready to declare victory – Europe must be prepared
While President Zelensky has tabled his plan for victory, it will not succeed without greater support from his allies
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/10/23/putin-is-ready-to-declare-victory-and-turn-west/
Defeating Russian forces in Ukraine now looks like an unachievable objective but assisting Ukraine to a position of dominance – vital if there are to be future negotiations – is still within reach.
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Russia won this war a LONG time ago. Even when they acknowledge that it's impossible to win...........instead of conceding........they have new strategies and justifications to keep the war going AS LONG AS POSSIBLE!
Their so called "assisting Ukraine to a position of dominance" has meant the loss of MORE and MORE and MORE land and lives. More damage and more wasted money and resources to fund a never ending kill-fest.
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2024/10/27/7481612/
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Delusional! Scroll up for the real world!
My position is NOT based on what I want. Just objective, authentic facts.
https://www.newsweek.com/ukraine-war-map-latest-russia-donetsk-1975570
99.9% Russia with Ukraine continuing to lose more land every day and more brave soldiers on suicide missions dying every day and more families losing loved ones every day and more US tax payer money used to fund the long ago, lost war/kill-fest every day.
NO WONDER PEOPLE DON'T TRUST OUR POLITICIANS, THIS ADMINISTRATION AND THE MEDIA!!!
Do You Trust the Mass Media?
Started by metmike - Oct. 24, 2024, 5:56 p.m. https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/108234/
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This isn't something that just happened. The maps I showed over a year ago showed the exact same thing. Only it just keeps getting worse and worse and worse.
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Why are Trump/Vance the only ones with a rational solution for peace?
Why are we still taking Zelensky seriously?
The worst military leader in the history of the world making nothing but disastrous decisions, month after month after month for almost 33 months of the war.........and the biggest blunder was refusing to negotiate for peace for months BEFORE the war.....the exact opposite of what he promised his people to get elected in 2019!
Then, in 2021, he sold his soul to the NATO/Biden devil that promised him more than what his people were worth to him and he made the betrayal of all time.
One of Zelensky's two main promises was to bring the war to an end, a goal that polls have shown Ukrainians want to see accomplished more than anything.
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Ukrainians have ALWAYS wanted peace/an end to the war. We need to end it ASAP for them!
What we have done to the Ukrainians, while disingenuously posturing with "supporting Ukraine" false narratives is horrible. Even now, the benefactors of this awful war are still trying to escalate and extend it as long as possible because they don't want their "cash cow" to end.
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Explanation for the complete metamorphose of fake Zelensky on the next page.
For those that wonder why Zelensky has been the worst military leader in history:
1. 0 training.
2. He is trained from years as a professional comedian and actor. He does have a law degree. He used his popularity in those professions to get elected as president. Now he is playing a role for NATO, that hijacked him for their agenda in 2021. Growing the beard and wearing the signature green, military style dress code is part of the image/act to make him LOOK like a REAL military leader.
3. Every decision that he has made is based on NATO's interests NOT those of Ukrainians. NATO/BIDEN recognized the potential of this extremely charismatic president and recruited him to be their salesman in 2021.
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm3305952/bio/?ref_=nm_ov_bio_sm
Volodymyr Zelenskyy is the 6th president of Ukraine. Before entering politics, he was a comedian, actor, screenwriter, film producer, and director.
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How does a person that was a professional comedian/actor for many years, suddenly, with 0 experience, become a military leader/strategist overnight???
Answer: THEY DON'T in the real world but as a gifted professional actor with world class charisma, they can PLAY THE ROLE of a military leader in convincing fashion. The role playing should win him an actors award. The catastrophic military decisions put him in the all time military leaders HALL OF SHAME! The betraying of his fellow Ukrainians, selling his soul to the NATO devil should earn him things much worse than that............if there was justice for what he and we have done to Ukrainians.
We should also note the false narrative of defending a democracy.
Zelensky s term ran out earlier this year and he has made himself dictator of Ukraine with the people having 0 power to vote him out which WOULD HAPPEN IF THEY COULD VOTE AGAIN.
Ukraine has been one of the most corrupt countries in the world AND WE MADE IT MUCH WORSE by massively gushing in war related resources that allowed their corrupt government officials and others to skim off millions for self enrichmemt.
it’s going on 3 years now.
What we have done, NATO has done, Zelensky has done has made everything much, MUCH worse for Ukraine in every single realm.
And not by a little.
Ukrainians just wanted peace with Russia and for their government corruption to end.
We gave them the 1 million % opposite and took away their right to vote. Every authentic piece of evidence shows what I’m stating.
Instead, what we get are pure manufactured realities, using propaganda and lies to sustain the war as long as possible so the gatekeepers of decisions and messages can extend THEIR MASSIVE benefits to having this horrible war.
GIVE THE GREATLY SUFFERING PEOPLE OF UKRAINE THE PEACE WITH RUSSIA THEY HAVE BEEN PLEADING FOR!
They are the ones that live there. They are the ones losing brave soldiers and family members THAT ARE GONE FOREVER. They are the ones suffering from rampant government corruption. They are the ones that had their ability to vote taken away from them.
We should stop funding an endeavor that punishes them with the complete opposite of what they desperately need the most so that the elites can get wealthy on war.
Zelensky stated:
1. This is a war of two countries against one.
2. We aim to use captured soldiers to negotiate the release of Ukrainians.
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1. Ukraine is fighting the war all by itself, with no help? Seriously???
https://www.statista.com/chart/28489/ukrainian-military-humanitarian-and-financial-aid-donors/
2. It's very hard to capture soldiers of the enemy when they are completely decimating Zelensky's side and his soldiers are deserting by the 10s of thousands because they've decided to not turn into more wasted human causalities for Zelensky's NATO driven suicide missions. His army and his people want the war to end NOT TO BECOME PART OF NATO.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/107607/#108165
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Please cut the 3 years worth of lying propaganda crap that is taking us closer and closer to WW-3 and admit that Ukraine lost and agree that NATO WILL NOT EXPAND INTO UKRAINE(one of the most corrupt countries in the world that no longer practices democracy/free elections).
This is THE reason I am voting for Trump even though I greatly dislike him and believe he is not qualified to be president.
Having a mentally ill, delusional, unqualified, divisive president that will end the war in Ukraine is still 1,000 times better than being in WW-3!
Too bad it's 3 years too late to save the 1 million casualties and decimation of Ukraine THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN AVOIDED WITH Trump.
It's been over for awhile and WE ARE MAKING IT MUCH WORSE NOT BETTER with a charismatic, unqualified (professional actor playing a military leader), delusional, NATO-centric, Ukraine betraying psychopath at the helm!
And a Military-Industrial-Political-Media complex continuing to lie with propaganda to sell completely manufactured, fake news and bogus rhetoric realities to us FOR THEIR SELF ENRICHING BENEFITS AND POLITICAL AGENDAS.
https://www.nytimes.com/news-event/ukraine-russia
END THIS WAR NOW AND GIVE UKRAINAINS THE PEACE THEY HAVE BEEN PLEADING FOR SINCE BEFORE THEY ELECTED ZELENSKY IN 2019 BECAUSE HE PROMISED TO NEGOTIATE TO BRING PEACE WITH RUSSIA. RESTORE ELECTIONS AND DEMOCRACY IN UKRAINE ASAP SO THAT DICTATOR, FAKE MILITARY LEADER ZELENSKY CAN BE REMOVED FROM OFFICE.
STOP USING UNITED STATES TAX PAYER MONEY TO FUND THE KILL-FEST!
STOP THIS NONSENSE PROPAGANDA, LIKE THE ARTICLE BELOW(that just came out today) USED TO CONVINCE US THAT RUSSIA IS LOSING. AND THAT ALL WE NEED TO DO IS.........CONTINUE THE WAR AND EVENTUALLY, UKRAINE WILL WIN. SUPPOSEDLY GETTING BACK THE LAND(MORE LOST EVERY DAY) AND BECOMINGE PART OF NATO.
Zelensky's long touted "Victory Plan" had less in common with realities than many science fiction novels and fairy tales!!!
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The Ukraine war is the quintessential example of why people no longer trust the media!
Do You Trust the Mass Media?
Started by metmike - Oct. 24, 2024, 5:56 p.m.
Congratulations to all Ukrainians this morning. Your long lived, horrific war with nothing but messages telling us we need to support it going on to infinity …….finally will see an end point.
The 2 people that clearly understand the authentic dynamics will be given power to use for ending the war as soon as possible. When will that be?
Dunno but much, MUCH sooner than those elites that are benefiting for self enrichment/agenda prefer. They have no rational end,point. Just a completely retarded victory plan with no semblance to-the reality on the ground.
That will end and hopefully a democracy will be restored with Ukrainians having the right to vote in a election again to either oust dictator Zelensky or he will choose not to run rather than face losing.
Under the Biden administration, the US has provided tens of billions of dollars in aid to Ukraine, in the form of both weapons and budget assistance. The administration plans to continue to surge as much support as possible to Kyiv before Trump takes office.
“If that support weakens, Russia will seize more territory, it would prevent us from winning this war.
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That's right. Exploit the benefits to the military-industrial-political-media complex to the last drop of brave Ukrainian soldiers blood before the party comes to an end. NEVER NEGOTIATE FOR PEACE AND NEVER TELL THE TRUTH THAT UKRAINE LOST THIS WAR BACK IN 2023 BASED ON MOST REASONABLE STANDARDS. AND UKRAINE NEVER HAD A CHANCE TO WIN BASED ON THE REALITIES. NOT A CHANCE FROM THE GET GO!
The party is about to end for these diabolical cruds but they will be FORCED to finally end it.
“If that support weakens, Russia will seize more territory, it would prevent us from winning this war.
1. Russia has been seizing more and more territory by the day. It's completely 1 sided.
2. The war was crystal clearly LOST a very long time ago.
3. The vast majority of Ukraine's previous military are now casualties. Deaths, permanent disabilities and desertions.
https://www.newsweek.com/russia-ukraine-isw-maps-1980253
https://tass.com/politics/1832469
SIMFEROPOL, August 22. /TASS/. More and more soldiers are deserting the Ukrainian army because they refuse to fight for the country's President Vladimir Zelensky, a Crimean senator told TASS.
Earlier, Verkhovna Rada lawmaker Alexander Fediyenko said that there is widespread desertion in the Ukrainian armed forces, with fighters leaving their positions unauthorized by the thousands.
"They do not want to fight because they don’t see a clear cause worth fighting for: they are beginning to realize that they are not fighting for Ukraine; at best, they’re fighting for Zelensky and his circle, who are profiting tremendously from this Ukrainian tragedy. They realize that they are fighting for Europe and for the Americans, and that neither Zelensky, nor the Europeans, nor the Americans care about Ukrainian lives. Besides, there are people who in principle view Russia in a positive light - they realize that we are one people, that Ukrainians are as Russian as we are," Sergey Tsekov, a member of the Committee on International Affairs, said.
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This is the truth vs the completely manufactured propaganda fairy tale our corrupt military-industrial-political-media complex has conjured up for their self enrichment/agenda!
Chance that I'm right and they are wrong?
Almost 100%. Look at the map on the previous page, man!!!
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Sure thing, MSM. Ukraine, is not only going to defeat Russia after losing most of their army but now, they are also defeating North Korea. Just look at the battlefield and see it
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/107607/#108508
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/107607/#108510
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The light at the end of the war tunnel is shining brightly with Trump/Vance being elected!
https://www.newsweek.com/zelensky-spurns-donald-trumps-alleged-plan-peace-russia-ukraine-1982600
He stressed that a peace process must be just and not risk leaving Ukraine vulnerable. "He [Trump] wants this war to be finished," Zelensky continued, acknowledging that while everyone shares that goal, a hasty resolution "is going to be a loss for Ukraine."
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What Zelensky continues to insist is diametrically the opposite of every authentic fact. If we wanted to devise a plan, 2.5 years ago that would MAXIMIZE the damage to Ukraine and Ukrainians it would be the exact Zelensky plan that the worst military leader in history continues to insist on.
Every day the war continues, now with most of Ukraine's army killed, permanently disabled and deserted is another day they lose land and lose lives. How can anybody that cares a lick about the human beings in Ukraine insist on this continuing to the last drop of brave Ukrainian soldier's blood?
Answer: Zelensky is all about NATO and using Ukrainians for his agenda and those in the corrupt Ukrainian government (that isn't even a democracy anymore since Zelensky canceled elections and made himself a dictator)
I predict that Trump will end the war, democratic elections will be restored and dictator Zelensky will lose his power.
trump knows what needs to be done to end the war in Ukraine. I’ve been posting about it non stop for well over 2 years.
But the politicians and MSM that want this war (not,peace)for their agenda and enrichment are going to all pile on with an enormous attack on him when he does it.
Watch for it WITH CERTAINTY!
I think bringing in Elon Musk is an extremely brilliant move by Trump.
Elon musk is respected as a genius that can solve challenging problems. With Musk behind the war ending solutions, it will be tougher for Trumps war loving, Trump hating enemies to unfairly attack him with impunity.
They will still do it but with Musk as his war ending spokesperson, Trump would have a formidable advocate to defend his authentic, ethical, practical and human rights weighted solutions.
The back channel discussions on this may have already begun or will begin shortly. This is what a good president that cares about human beings and American tax payers and Americans best interests does.
The person in office right now continues on a morally bankrupt path and lacks those traits above completely, when it comes to Ukraine.
Trump is not beholden to or bought and paid for by the military-industrial*political*media complex like the others!
TIME TO FINALLY GET THIS WAR OVER!
https://www.newsweek.com/ukraine-map-atacms-range-joe-biden-russia-1987273
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THANK GOD we will see the last of Joe Biden is less than 2 months!!! Another term with him would have meant WW-3!!!!!!
Trump is busting his butt to bring peace, even before his term begins and Biden is still trying to escalate a war that was lost a very long time ago at the very end of a catastrophic 4 years of ruinous decisions for Ukraine (and the US) by the man on our side, most responsible for the never ending war.
Biden needs to go.........YESTERDAY!
Surrender Dorthy !!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surrender_Dorothy
"Surrender Dorothy" is a famous special effect used in the 1939 film The Wizard of Oz, where the Wicked Witch of the West flies on her broomstick to write the two-word phrase across the sky. The phrase later attained local fame as graffiti in the Washington, DC, metropolitan area.
"Surrender Dorothy" is a famous special effect used in the 1939 film The Wizard of Oz, where the Wicked Witch of the West flies on her broomstick to write the two-word phrase across the sky. The phrase later attained local fame as graffiti in the Washington, DC, metropolitan area.
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Resign dictator Zelensky, so democracy can return to Ukraine and your people can finally have peace!!!
https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-november-18-2024
What's interesting here, is that people with TDS will be even MORE against peace and MORE for a continuation of Ukraine's decimation because Trump is bringing an end to it.
And they will never be able to comprehend the true nature of this Biden/Zelensky/NATO caused travesty. Yes, of course it was PUTIN that invaded Ukraine............and they used that to pretend it was unprovoked and all his fault.
He was demanding that Ukraine disavow any intention for joining NATO(that is surrounding him to destroy Russia) That was it.
All this would have been avoided and they know it, if they had just agreed to his demand.
Does Ukraine have the right to join NATO?
Of course they do!
BUT UKRAINIANS HAVE BEEN SAYING FOR MANY, MANY YEARS THAT THEY WANT PEACE WITH RUSSIA AND AN END TO CORRUPTION MUCH MORE THAN JOINING NATO.
So when no nothing, charismatic professional actor/comedian Zelensky was elected on a promise of bringing peace with Russia and ending corruption in 2019, Biden and NATO hijacked his brain to use him for their diabolical agenda to destroy Russia and get Ukraine into NATO. They did this in 2021, after Biden was elected.
So instead of agreeing to Putin's demand of NO NATO or he would invade, they told him to shove it. ........as Zelensky SHUT DOWN negotiations with Russia at the directions of Biden/NATO that told him he would be able to DEFEAT RUSSIA with them providing him with all the equipment and support he needed to do it.
So instead of Zelensky bringing peace to Ukrainians as promised, he created an unprecedented ONE SIDED WAR that featured the worst military leader in the history of the world making blunderous decisions, one after another, each more costly than the previous one, going on 3 years. One only needs to be looking at the battle field the entire time to see the truth. The latest one is on the post above.
In addition, Zelensky made corruption even worse in one of the most corrupt countries in the world(the other broken promise).
In addition, we are being told that this is fight for democracy. How ironic that OUR side has featured a leader who TOOK DEMOCRACY AWAY FROM UKRAINIANS!
Zelensky banned new elections after his term ran out earlier this year, to make himself dictator because a democratic election would oust him and hold him accountable for what he did to the Ukrainian people.
This is the opposite of the false narratives/propaganda that we've been fed by the MSM that make Zelensky out to be a hero. SUPPOSEDLY, Fighting for democracy and freedom for the people of Ukraine and we must support him and Ukraine.
Zelensky is a blatantly corrupt puppet man that sacrificed his country and people after Biden used his corrupt Ukrainian connections to hijack him for their diabolical agenda.
This is NOT speculation. It happened with 100.000% certainty, with constant proof in many hundreds of posts here the past 2 years and 9 months.
Hurry, hurry, hurry, Zelensky/biden.
trump will be in office in just over a month.
enough time to cause 10,000 more casualties with what’s left of the decimated brave Ukrainian army.
and lose tons more land.
but so what?
anything can be justified if it kills russians. WRONG!
