https://www.newsweek.com/joe-rogan-rails-against-biden-zelensky-world-war-iii-1990768
During a Friday episode of The Joe Rogan Experience, the world's biggest podcast, Rogan criticized Biden's decision to allow Ukraine to use U.S.-made, long-range missiles to strike targets in Russia, calling it reckless.
"How are you allowed to do that when you're on your way out? People don't want you to be there anymore," Rogan asked, referring to Biden's status as a "lame-duck" president.
"There should be some sort of pause for significant actions that could potentially start World War III," he said.
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The corrupt, dictator, Ukraine betraying, NATO puppet and worst military leader in the history of the world(by an extremely wide margin) is joined at the hip with the most corrupt, cognitively impaired, worst president in the history of the United States!!
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Zelensky in the US 9-23-24
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Started by commodityman - Sept. 23, 2024, 11:51 a.m
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Science fiction novels and fairy tales are better aligned to reality than Zelensky's complete nonsense plans(like his absurd Victory plan 2 months ago), each one worse than the other and each decision, making things even worse than the previous one for everybody. Nearly 100% propaganda and 0% factual reality.
UKRAINE IS BEING COMPLETELY DECIMATED AND SURRENDER IS NOW THE ONLY OPTION FOR UKRAINE. Agreeing not to let NATO expand into Ukraine was the easy peasy option 3 years ago, even 2 years ago to avoid ALL THIS but Zelensky/Biden/NATO have refused to agree to that. They want to destroy Russia AGAINST THE CRYSTAL CLEAR WISHES OF THE UKRAINIAN PEOPLE THAT WANT PEACE WITH RUSSIA. Putin said what would happen if they continued with that position. It's happened.
What comes out of Zelensky's and Biden's mouth is extremely dangerous propaganda and lies. Compare it to the stone cold truth below.
RED=Russia controlled land
ORANGE=Russia taking control of MORE LAND
BLUE=Ukraine fighting back AND LOSING BADLY because most of the original Ukraine army are casualties but Zelensky will keep sending them on NATO suicide missions to the last drop of brave Ukrainian soldiers blood!
Download the PDFhttps://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-november-24-2024
What on these maps above of THE REAL WORLD, gives anybody with a lick of sense the idea that Ukraine continuing to fight (and ignoring Ukrainians plea for NEGOTIATING PEACE WITH RUSSIA FOR 3 YEARS) is a good idea???
Continuing to fight with the objective of NATO expanding into Ukraine has cost them EVERYTHING. It's not even what Ukrainians want!! It's what Zelensky, Biden and NATO want. They've FORCED Ukrainian soldiers to fight like they are dictator Zelensky's slaves, going on suicide missions for his diabolical, Ukraine betraying NATO-centric missions. Record desertions, part of massive Ukraine casualties has cut their military down to much less of half of its original size.
If they were honest and showed everybody these maps and told the truth, much of the support from sane, rational people would dry up.
The only thing maintaining support for this war are......lies, propaganda, ignorance and diabolical objectives.
PLEASE GIVE UKRAINIANS THE PEACE THEY HAVE BEEN PLEADING FOR THE PAST 3 YEARS and stop with the ridiculous, nonsense narrative that doing this is "supporting Ukraine".
Another source showing the exact same thing:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60506682
The incursion north of Kharkiv was some distance from the main front line in the east where Russia has continued its offensive operations and been edging forwards since October 2023.
Eastern Ukraine has been contested territory since 2014, when Russian-backed fighters seized large swathes of the eastern Donetsk and Luhansk regions.
Russia's biggest advantage is manpower and it has shown a willingness to throw soldiers at Ukrainian positions to gain a few metres at a time.
According to the UK chief of defence staff Sir Tony Radakin, more than 1,500 Russian soldiers were being killed or wounded every day in October. That is the highest rate since the beginning of the war, exceeding the 1,200 being killed or wounded every day in May and June.
Experts at the Institute for the Study of War believe Russian forces will likely continue to focus on seizing frontline Ukrainian towns and cities this winter with the city of Pokrovsk as one of their main targets.
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NATO, Zelensky, Biden and the Military-Industrial-Political-Media complex keep score on the Russian casualties as if we should celebrate the deaths of fellow human beings like ourselves with families in Russia that love and depend on them. That have no choice but to fight.
That's how it is with these sick SOBs! Most concerned with their self serving, self enriching agenda's. Destroying human lives like they are plastic pieces on a chess board playing a game of chess.
Completely distanced from the horrors of war they impose on entire countries and their people, THAT WANT PEACE!!!!! Selling their humanity toxic, diabolical agenda with lies and propaganda and the entire Military-Industrial-Political-Media complex colluding for self enrichment. The United States has had all the power from before this war started to prevent it(by just agreeing that NATO would not expand into Ukraine). Joe Biden is on a diabolical mission here and he's doing everything possible to sabotage peace as he goes out the door.
WHAT AN EVIL MAN JOE BIDEN IS!
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-boxing-biden-ukraine-opinion-1992676
The Biden administration acknowledged as much when it green-lit Ukraine's use of the longer-range missiles inside Russia, which suggests that virtue signaling and Biden's desire to be remembered as Ukraine's primary supporter were more important components in the policymaking process than military utility.
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Every single decision made by Biden/Zelensky/NATO during the 34 month war has made things WORSE for Ukraine. Sometimes, it has simultaneously made things worse for BOTH Ukraine and Russia and we are supposed to celebrate that because bad for Russia = a win for the supposed good side.
The reality is that its a DOUBLE LOSS for humanity and NOT a win at all.
Let's say I started a hypothetical war with 1 million human beings, 500,000 on each side with the ones fighting NOT being the ones making decisions and having no choice but to fight the war for those forcing it on them.
Let's say that human beings actually mattered in that war and the objective was to preserve precious human lives because all those brave soldiers have dozens of family members back home that love and depend on them.
When 100,000 human beings die from both sides............200,000 REAL human beings die!!!
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However, the way we are keeping score in Ukraine is to ignore when OUR side loses 100,000 human beings and only count the dead on the other side and to celebrate those 100,000 dead as a victory.
So instead of losing 200,000 REAL human beings, the propaganda and lies encourage us to cheer and celebrate because the other side lost 100,000 non human units that only represent a number, NOT HUMANITY.
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There are definitely things worth fighting for and giving up lives for in this world, including freedom and democracy.
But they are blatantly lying to you this time.
1. Ukrainians don't want to join NATO, they want peace with Russia.
2. Instead of fighting for democracy, Biden/Zelensky/NATO TOOK DEMOCRACY AWAY FROM UKRAINE. Zelensky imposed martial law and banned elections after his term expired to make himself dictator of Ukraine. Ukrainian democracy and the will of the people has been stolen from them. Zelensky would lose in a landslide if he ran again.
3. Ukrainians don't want to fight this war. Record desertions from the massively depleted army prove that. They didn't have enough soldiers to to win the war in the beginning and now they have much less than half that number. Russia has lost even more but from a starting point of 3 times higher. So its a just been an inevitable win for Russia because of the war of attrition.
4. What a horrible waste of human life. Almost 3 years later, what have we gained? Nothing but 1 million times more losses than any gains but the retarded war strategies that keep making it worse and worse and worse are ramping up even more as cognitively diminished, poor judgment Biden(that people REALLY want out) abuses his power at the end of his disastrous term.
5. At any point, including BEFORE it started, Biden could have said "OK, NATO has expanded into over a dozen countries surrounding Russia (breaking their promise not to do so) but we agree to not continue the expansion into Ukraine". That's all he needed to do. Instead, he did this and is now escalating further.
6. Don't forget that he also blew up Russia's natural gas pipeline to Europe, the greatest state sponsored eco terrorist act in history and greatest release of methane gas by far in history. Methane is 30 times more powerful as a greenhouse gas than CO2 with 0 of the benefits of CO2.
7. Just when you thought that Biden couldn't get more diabolical..........now this:
SecDef Austin's claim that these explosives are safe is dead wrong
https://responsiblestatecraft.org/urkraine-landmines/
The landmines — use of which is banned in 160 countries by an international treaty — are expected to be deployed primarily in the country’s eastern territories, where Ukrainian forces are struggling to defend against steady advances by the Russian military.
But much like the Biden administration’s controversial decision to supply Ukraine with cluster bombs — another indiscriminate weapon system whose unexploded ordinance can maim and kill civilians, especially children, for decades after their use — this move may offer limited military upside, but it comes with massive risk to Ukrainian civilians, and it will not turn the tide of the war in Ukraine’s favor.
More evidence of our side having the worst military leadership in war fighting history.
Why would we now, suddenly authorize the use of these weapons long after the war was lost???
If you are going to use them, then use them when you still have a chance.
Look,at the battlefield today. Ukraine has a 0.001% chance to win the war, even with these weapons because Ukraine is too weak to have a chance anymore.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/28/europe/ukraine-russia-war-power-cut-intl-hnk/index.html
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NATO/Zelensky/Biden are a bunch of military retards. Every decision they make causes things to get MUCH worse for Ukraine. After the decision, the MSN and message gatekeepers gush out propaganda about their retarded military plans and tell us they are military genius's with plans named "Victory Plans" or "Counter offensive plans to win the war" or "a surprise attack inside Russia that ended up just getting more Ukrainian soldiers killed and used up soldiers needed to defend Ukraine"
And Zelensky's latest retarded "Reliance Plan" and Bidens decision to provoke Russia even more with long range US MISSILES sent deeply into Russia that have no chance of doing anything except causing Russia to increase its decimation of Ukraine and potentially attack the NATO countries attacking him.
Russia won the war a very long time ago. And why are we defending one of the most corrupt countries in the world(Ukraine) anyway.
THEY DON'T EVEN WANT US TO DO THIS!!!!!!!!! THEY WANT PEACE WITH RUSSIA NOT NATO!!! WE MADE THEM FIGHT OUR WAR, NOT UKRAINES WAR.
WE STOLE THEIR DEMOCRACY AWAY BY BANNING ELECTIONS AND MAKING ZELENSKY A DICTATOR AFTER HIS TERM EXPIRED.
WE SPENT 200,000,000,000 US TAX PAYER DOLLARS TO DO IT.
The reason they are doing it is because of the self enrichment and political agenda objectives of US Military-Industrial-Political-Media complex!!!
They also serve as the message gatekeepers that have been serving us up complete nonsense and lies about the war. Why we are there. What is really happening. Where things are headed.
And we keep getting closer to WW3 which would spiral out of control if Putin made a direct attack on the United States, after we provoked him for the umpteenth time!
If we wanted a successful peace plan in Ukraine, all we needed to do was the exact opposite of everything they have done the past 3 years.
Even flipping a coin is right 50% of the time. These people have been right almost 0% of the time!!!!!!!!!! It's because their agenda IS NOT PEACE. IT'S NOT TO SUPPORT UKRAINE. THEY ARE ACCOMPLISHING A LOT OF WHAT THEY WANT BUT ITS JUST NOT WHAT THEY WANT US TO THINK THEY ARE AFTER.
So I should restate that their retarded plans that can never work as stated....are ALSO CORRUPT, DIABOLICAL PLANS THAT ARE WORKING TO GET WHAT THEY REALLY WANT.
On this day, my message to the Ukrainian people is clear: the United States stands with you.
metmike: If you REALLY stood with Ukraine, you would stop doing this. Ukraine wants the complete opposite of what you are causing and doing to them! They want peace with Russia, NOT NATO.
They want democracy and the right to vote in order to get rid of dictator Zelensky. You took that away from them. Russia didn't do that. Russia does NOT intend to do that.
Russia continues to underestimate the bravery, resilience, and determination of the Ukrainian people.
metmike: You have been FORCING 100s of thousands of Ukrainians that don't want this to go on suicide missions. Treating them like they are slaves. Desertion numbers for the Ukrainian army are at record rates. Only the most diabolical, self centered people in power would do this for their political agenda. Zelensky is one of the biggest traitors to their people in the history of the world.
Doing things to make the long ago lost war last longer is just adding additional punishment to Ukraine and the Ukrainian people.
The war in Ukraine is about NATO wanting to expand into Ukraine. Putin told NATO 3 years ago that he would stop them from getting Ukraine too, no matter what he had to do. Enough was enough with NATO expansion and their perpetual Russia provoking, Russia defeating objectives. NATO is far more than the defensive pact that they pretend to be. But NATO would not and will NOT GIVE UP ON EXPANDING INTO UKRAINE and they would not even negotiate with Putin about it. NATO/Biden told Zelensky to cut off negotiations with Putin in late 2021. Putin did what he said that he would do to stop NATO.
They hijacked Zelensky, the professional actor and turned him into a traitor/puppet. He sacrificed his people and has been traveling around the NATO countries, using his charisma and acting skills to sell NATOs dishonest position.
Chance of this being true?
100%!!!!!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enlargement_of_NATO
https://ndisc.nd.edu/news-media/news/the-addition-of-nato-members-over-time-1949-2023/
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Now, lets see what countries are supporting Ukraine in this war in dark green on the map below. Its almost entirely NATO countries...........because NATO wants Ukraine and Russia is trying to prevent the eastward expansion of NATO to destroy Russia.
https://www.newsweek.com/map-stance-ukraine-war-russia-1993392
Who's the lying, dog-faced pony soldier in Ukraine?
Ukrainians do not want NATO, it's NATO that wants Ukraine.
Ukrainians want PEACE WITH RUSSIA. They elected Zelensky in 2019 because he promised to negotiate peace with Russia, along with fighting corruption. After NATO hijacked his brain and turned him into their puppet, in 2021 he offered up the people in his country to die for NATOs war to get Ukraine...... AGAINST THEIR WILL!!!! He took away their right to vote by cancelling elections, so he could remain in office.
Dictator Zelensky has been forcing his soldiers to go on suicide missions for NATO since early 2022. He took away their democracy, banning elections after his term expired to keep himself from losing in a landslide, while enabling him to impose NATOs agenda on Ukraine with impunity.
Chance of this being true?
100%!!!!
Chance that Biden's version is complete lies?
100%
Ukrainians want 1 thing more than anything else........for the war to end and peace with Russia.
While Biden/NATO/Zelensky MAKE THEM fight a war they don't want. The majority of their soldiers(that weren't killed) have deserted/went AWOL.
So what does Biden suggest? Lowering the age of conscription to replace the dead/deserted Ukrainians soldiers BUT NOT PEACE.
Washington suggested teenagers join the war as Ukraine demanded more aid, signalling a rift between allies.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/12/3/ukraine-conscription-age-row
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Russia is not meeting much resistance now as they slowly march weststward and take more and more and more land.
They won the war decisively over a year ago but it was clear from the start they would win.
With the most cognitively impaired US president in history (by a wide margin) making the worst military decisions in human history and feeding them to the NATO puppet/salesman (Zelensky) who sold his soul to the NATO devil and sacrificed his people, sending his brave soldiers on suicide missions for almost 3 years. ....this has been a 1 sided decimation that keeps getting worse and worse for Ukraine and the responses by Biden are more retarded each time.
Each decision, increasing the casualties. Increasing the lost land, increasing the cost to American tax payers. Escalating and increasing the risk of nuclear war.
Not 1 smart decision yet in 32 months of war. Damages 1 million times any benefits(other than the Military-Industrial-Political-Media gatekeepers/complex).
Never making an attempt to seek peace, which can only happen WHEN NATO GIVES UP ON EXPANDING INTO UKRAINE!!!!!!
NATO WANTS UKRAINE. UKRAINE DOES NOT WANT NATO!
https://www.npr.org/2024/12/03/g-s1-36575/us-ukraine-weapons
President Joe Biden has pledged to spend all of the military assistance funds Congress approved this year for Ukraine before the end of his administration on Jan. 20, which before Monday's announcement included about $7.1 billion in weapons that would be drawn from the Pentagon's stockpiles.
This announcement is the 71st tranche of equipment to be provided from Defense Department inventories for Ukraine since August 2021. This presidential drawdown authority package has an estimated value of $725 million, per a DOD press release today.
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There is a 0.000% chance for Ukraine to win the war. The only thing that they can do is extend and sustain the arse kicking/decimation, human and land casualties as long as possible before finally surrendering. The longer it takes before negotiating for peace, the greater the losses/cost with 0 benefits.
We have self serving, self enriching, agenda driven, corrupt, ethically/morally bankrupt morons making the worst military/battlefield decisions in the history of mankind.
Emil Kastehelmi@emilkastehelmi
This fall has been grim for Ukraine. According to our assessment, between 1 September and 30 November, the Russians captured over 1600 km2 in Ukraine, and retook roughly 500 km2 in Kursk. The rate of advance accelerated every month, despite the Russians suffering heavy losses.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/ukraine-ceasefire-terms-come-focus-110000949.html?fr=yhssrp_catchall
Benjamin Friedman, policy director at Defense Priorities, said the shift is a reflection of the “irrefutable facts on the ground in the evident failure of Ukrainian forces to retake territory and their grave difficulty holding on to what they have.”And “it doesn’t take a Ph.D. in political science to see that the political winds are shifting in the United States,” he added, “and they can’t count on the kind of support they’ve been getting, to say the least.”
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After years of this being blatantly obvious to anybody looking at the authentic facts(not the bs propaganda), now it's:
.”And “it doesn’t take a Ph.D. in political science to see"
Despite how obvious it is to almost EVERYBODY, the worst president in history with massive cognitive damage to his judgment is quadrupling down on the worst military strategy in the history of the world. The same one that caused ALL THE CATASTROPHIC LOSSES WHICH CONTINUE EVERY DAY from the long ago lost war.
https://www.newsweek.com/joe-bidens-huge-last-minute-boost-ukraine-full-list-1996786
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All of Biden's decisions since he told Zelensky to shut down negotiations with Putin in September 2021 because he would help Ukraine defeat Russia have all been catastrophically bad. One after the other. With control over the narratives and media we were fed propaganda every day of every month lying to us about Ukraine's chances to win a war that was lost from the get go for all the reasons I spelled out 100+ times from the beginning. We've been living a complete fairy tale over the war because of Joe Biden and the United States Military-Industrial-Political-Media complex in cahoots with NATO and their charismatic, professional actor puppet who got elected by..........get this.......promising to negotiate peace with Russia which is WHAT UKRAINIANS HAVE ALWAYS WANTED MOST.
Ukraine does not want NATO it's NATO that wants Ukraine. Putin said years ago (after NATO expanded into a dozen countries that they promised not to) that he would NEVER let NATO have the motherland country of Ukraine. No matter what he had to do.
PLEASE GIVE THE PEOPLE OF UKRAINE WHAT THEY HAVE WANTED FROM THE GET GO....PEACE WITH RUSSIA!
We have been giving them the complete opposite of what they want. An escalating war with Russia and FORCING THEM to die for NATO with Zelensky sending 100s of thousands of brave Ukrainian soldiers on suicide missions and insanely pushing a blatantly false narrative that we are SUPPORTING UKRAINE by forcing the 100% diametrically opposed opposite on them.
Another part of the false narrative is that we are fighting for democracy...........when its our side THAT STOLE DEMOCRACY FROM UKRAINIANS.
Not only are we forcing the complete opposite of what they want on them, after Zelensky's term expired HE BANNED ELECTIONS IN UKRAINE TO MAKE HIMSELF A DICTATOR, WHO CAN'T BE QUESTIONED OR REMOVED FROM OFFICE WITH AN ELECTION THAT WOULD DEFEAT HIM BY A LANDSLIDE.
https://www.newsweek.com/sergey-lavrov-tucker-carlson-hypersonic-missiles-ukraine-1996587
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What is the matter with Congress? Why aren't they speaking out and stepping up to stop Biden from these actions that carry a 1 trillion to 1, risk/reward ratio???
Answer: They are part of the diabolical, self serving, agenda driven Military-Industrial-Political-Media complex.
Every decision by Biden in this war during its 34 months(and in fact for the 6 months BEFORE the war, when he intentionally started it) has made it worse to much worse to much, MUCH worse. This latest decision is insanely retarded by every standard.
Joe Biden is a loose cannon, dangerous man with severe cognitive losses which have taken away any sense of proper judgment. He's suffering from a horrific case of embarrassment and damaged ego because of the election results that HE CAUSED and his ego being decimated from being forced to withdraw as the D candidate after the people in our country made it CRYSTAL clear that they don't want him or somebody in his administration as our president.
On his way out its causing desperate acts based entirely on his personal agenda NOT WHAT AMERICANS WANT. In fact, he's acting vindictive towards Americans that rejected him with these Ukraine decisions.
People like me voted for Trump to end the war in Ukraine. So he is going ballistic here,. trying to escalate as much as possible.........turn it nuclear to sabotage Trumps effort to bring the peace to Ukraine that Ukraine has been pleading for.
What kind of person would do this to his own country? Do this to Ukrainians for 3 years? Tell us this is supporting Ukraine, when Ukrainians want the 100% polar opposite.
THE WORST PRESIDENT IN HISTORY!
It will be nearly impossible for Trump, in his 2nd term to be worse than this.
Hopefully, Putin will not be baited by bidens attempt to provoke him and Trump can start applying sanity to stop the war in Ukraine the day he takes over.
Actually, Trump and musk are back channeling with Putin now and Biden is trying to sabotage their negotiations for peace.
Ukrainians have NEVER WANTED THIS WAR!!!!!!!! THEY WANT PEACE!!! Ukraine, for all practical purposes doesn't even have much of an army left.
Desertion is starving the Ukrainian army of desperately needed manpower and crippling its battle plans at a crucial time in its war with Russia
And the actual number of deserters may be much higher. One lawmaker with knowledge of military matters estimated it could be as high as 200,000.
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With almost no army left in Ukraine, the only thing left for Biden to do is to launch US made, powerful long range missiles, deeply into Russia and hope it will trigger WW3 between the USA and Russia before Trump takes office!
This is clearly his objective! No question about it!
Since Russia has been weakened by the last 3 years of war, maybe he thinks that we can defeat them??? However in a nuclear war, even the winners take catastrophic, unthinkable losses that can be 100 times worse than the losers of a non nuclear war.
November was Ukraine’s worst month since September 2022 for territory lost to Russian forces. These charts and maps show the latest developments in the war
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metmike: Compare this graph above and the actual maps below to the propaganda the media and government have been using to lie about what is really happening. Only the worst military leaders in the history of the world would continue to allow their side to be decimated with accelerating intensity, day after day..... losing more and more land and soldiers each day.
There was never a snowballs chance in hell for Ukraine to win the war at any point but that's what they have been selling to us. Why in tarnation do we continue to put up with this???
OK, we voted Biden out but why in tarnation is he being allowed to do this in his last 2 months????
https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-december-5-2024
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVVSGHOBF2c
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https://news-pravda.com/ukraine/2024/11/28/884823.html
Only 16% of voters would back Ukrainian leader Vladimir Zelensky if a presidential election were held now, a survey has revealed.
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Actually, 16% is less than one in SIX Ukrainians would vote for Zelensky if he hadn't banned democratic elections to make himself DICTATOR Zelensky after his term expired!
So sad that Biden did this to Ukrainians. Giving them the complete opposite of what they wanted(Peace with Russia) taking away their democratic elections, sending hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians on suicide missions for his diabolical agenda........then calling it supporting Ukraine.
Trump calls for a cease fire, striving for peace even while Biden continues to do his best to escalate even more and extend the war with its catastrophic consequences as long as possible.
https://time.com/7200633/trump-calls-for-immediate-ceasefire-ukraine-zelensky-meeting/
