The last few weeks, the unprovoked, unjustified war justification has been trying to generate support by lying about the dynamics of Iran's nuclear weapons program.
Giving us the choice of Iran having nuclear weapons threatening the United States or this war. Hogwash. Here's the authentic information.
1. Obama/Kerry had a wonderful agreement with Iran that assured the world they would never enrich uranium or develop nuclear weapons. They spent years negotiating this, along with several other countries on our side signing it.
Below: Nuclear deal with Obama that was signed by numerous countries and WAS WORKING extremely well to keep Iran from enriching uranium and developing nuclear weapons(until Donald Trump suddenly cancelled it and replaced it with...........NOTHING!!!)
https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/node/328996
Before this agreement, Iran's breakout time -- or the time it would have taken for Iran to gather enough fissile material to build a weapon -- was only two to three months. Today, because of the Iran deal, it would take Iran 12 months or more. And with the unprecedented monitoring and access this deal puts in place, if Iran tries, we will know and sanctions will snap back into place.
Here's how we got to this point. Since October, Iran has:
Because Iran has completed these steps, the U.S. and international community can begin the next phase under the JCPOA, which means the U.S. will begin lifting its nuclear-related sanctions on Iran. However, a number of U.S. sanctions authorities and designations will continue to remain in place.
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Iran nuclear deal
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_nuclear_deal
https://www.europarl.europa.eu/cmsdata/122460/full-text-of-the-iran-nuclear-deal.pdf
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Then, unexplainably(other than him wanting to cancel out Obama) Donald Trump did one of the dumbest things in Middle East history........he actually withdrew from the hard fought Iran deal and replaced it with...............NOTHING!!!
As a direct result of Donald Trump's actions, Iran began to enrich and stockpile uranium.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_withdrawal_from_the_Iran_nuclear_deal
The United States announced its withdrawal from the Iran nuclear deal, formally known as the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA), on 8 May 2018.[1][2][3][4] The JCPOA is an agreement on Iran's nuclear program reached in July 2015 by Iran and the P5+1 or the E3+3 and the European Union
"The withdrawal led Iran to take actions contrary to the deal, including stockpiling roughly 440 kilograms of highly enriched uranium. Amid negotiations on a potential nuclear deal, the US and Israel launched the 2026 Iran war, citing the Iranian nuclear threat as a rationale"
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Donald Trump's withdrawal from Obama's great Nuclear deal is just jaw dropping, lack of objective, comprehensive thinking and leadership. He apparently did it because he had the power to take away an accomplishment from a person that he hates, President Obama but didn't have the people smart enough or skilled enough to negotiate a Donald Trump Nuclear Deal to replace it with.
He wanted a Donald Trump deal for his legacy
Donald Trump is entirely focused on his own personal destiny, not America or non rich Americans.is
Fast forward to Donald Trump's 2nd term and the year 2025.
Iran has enriched uranium because there were no rules or agreements to keep them from enriching after Donald Trump cancelled the Obama Nuclear deal and replaced it with nothing.
Trump's Intelligence Department, Tulsey Gabbard reports the enriched uranium but that Iran is years away from being able to use it for nuclear weapons so there is still plenty of time to negotiate a new deal between Donald Trump and Iran which he is pursuing hard so that this new nuclear deal will be called the "Trump Nuclear Deal.
In June, 2025, just days before they are about to agree on the details of the Trump Nuclear Deal with Iran….. suddenly, Bibi Netanyahu BOMBS IRAN! Claiming(lying) that Iran was days away from having nuclear bombs that were going to be dropped on Israel and they were just "defending Israel". He does this to sabotage any peace agreements between the US and Iran because he needs the US to be an enemy of Iran to help him fight Iran.
A claim he's been making for 3 decades.
https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/netanyahus-bomb-chart-steals-the-show-in-his-un-speech/
Image originally published September 28, 2012 at 7:54 pm
Re: Re: Re: Israel strikes Iran
By metmike - June 17, 2025, 12:56 p.m.
It's also crystal clear that the tail(Netanyahu/Israel) is wagging the dog(Trump/US) and one of the saddest things that I've witnessed in my life time because of the consequences of the leadership of one of the most diabolical leaders in the history of the world and by far the worst in Israel's history.
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Re: Re: Re: Israel strikes Iran
By metmike - June 17, 2025, 1:09 p.m.
Israel says Iran was racing toward a nuclear weapon. US intel says it was years away
https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/17/politics/israel-iran-nuclear-bomb-us-intelligence-years-away
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Then, using his power over Donald Trump's diseased brain that seeks Netanyahu's over the top adulation, he tells Donald Trump to bomb Iran with bunker busting bombs to obliterate their nuclear weapons program.
It works! Netanyahu sabotages the impending peace deal between Donald Trump and Iran and instead, causes Donald Trump to BETRAY his peace negotiations with Iran and BETRAY the American people by putting the agenda of a foreign country, Israel ahead of the United States.
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By metmike - June 16, 2025, 11:40 p.m.
Weakest Strongman? How Netanyahu Duped Trump On Iran
Donald Trump was hoping to buy time for negotiations with Iran. But Israel’s prime minister undercut the plan with a military strike, just ahead of Trump’s birthday and military parade.
https://worldcrunch.com/in-the-news/trump-netanyahu-sabotages-iran-talks/
Donald Trumps gets his adulation fix from Netanyahu, who knows exactly how to manipulate/control him. Netanyahu, comes to Washington to do a FAKE nomination of Donald Trump for the Nobel Peace prize(after the deadline for nominations was past).
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel handed a letter to President Trump nominating him for the Nobel Peace Prize. But it’s not clear whether stroking the president’s ego has long-lasting effects.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/08/world/europe/trump-diplomacy-flattery-world-leaders.html
June 22, 2025:
Netanyahu praises Trump's 'bold decision' to strike Iranian nuclear sites
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XL4rmsJHX08
After watching that video, ask yourself how anything he said could be true if less than 9 months after it, Israel and the United States had to start a NEW war with Iran.
Bibi Netanyahu would make an excellent diabolical psychiatrist! He knows how Donald Trump's mind works and is using it ……exploiting it to the MAX to accomplish his own agenda in Iran.
Fast forward to 2026. Iran and the United States are once again working on the peace agreement that Donald Trump wants desperately for his legacy. In February, Iran agrees to Donald Trump's demands to greatly reduce their stockpile of enriched uranium, along with a commitment to NOT develop nuclear weapons.
Just like last June, with another Trump, Iran Nuclear deal about to be formed.........Bibi Netanyahu jumps in to sabotage it again using the same tactic that worked previously!
https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/netanyahus-bomb-chart-steals-the-show-in-his-un-speech/
Image originally published September 28, 2012 at 7:54 pm
Using the same, worn out FALSE narrative but this time, with incredible lying details that he and Trump's minions feed to the media....... that Iran had exactly 11 nuclear weapons and was exactly 9 days away from bombing Israel(to make it appear credible, about something that would be impossible to know with that detail).........despite our own Intelligence department, at the same time, reporting the diametrically opposed, polar opposite and providing the actual evidence to prove their case that Iran was not even pursuing the development of nuclear weapons and that Netanyahu was blatantly lying.….again!
Netanyahu uses his ability to control Donald Trump once again to get him to betray Iran(in the middle of peace negotiations) and really, REALLY betray the American people by putting Israel First and starting an unprovoked, unjustified war with NO PLAN FOR WHAT COMES NEXT. And against the advice of some of his own people because his diseased brain craves the over the top adulation from Bibi Netanyahu.
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Tulsey Gabbard and the US Intelligence community report, under oath, that Iran has done ZERO to develop nuclear weapons since last June and all their enriched uranium is buried deeply underground from the bunker buster bombs of June 2025. I
The #2 Intelligence person, directly under Gabbard RESIGNS over this:
By metmike - March 4, 2026, 8:09 p.m.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Iran war 3/8/26+ (cont. from other thread)
By metmike - March 17, 2026, 1:16 p.m.
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By metmike - March 18, 2026, 1:10 p.m.
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Iran war 3/8/26+ (cont. from other thread)
By metmike - March 18, 2026, 5:42 p.m.
In addition:
A whistle blower in the Trump circle comes out to the NY Times, with an incredibly detailed/accurate account of exactly how Bibi Netanyahu manipulated Donald Trump to serve him and Israel. Getting him to completely abandon his commitment to Americans and the Constitution to get the approval that his diseased brain needs from Netanyahu's hall of fame, global adulating of Donald Trump.
It's Donald Trump that betrayed Iran(that was sincerely negotiating) for the 2nd time in 9 months as well as the American people/United States!
How Netanyahu used Donald Trump for his war
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Started by metmike - April 10, 2026, 4:10 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/119441/
The past 2 weeks, the false narrative has been justifying this war, the much higher gas prices, the worst global energy crisis in history as a necessary ends justifies the means to keep Iran from using nuclear weapons to attack countries in the Middle East and absurdly, to attack the United States on our own soil .
ALL the authentic facts prove that to just be propaganda and lies.
Donald Trump has told many 10s of thousands of lies while in office. Many are small (white) lies.
Many are pretty bad and some REALLY bad.
This lie, however is numerous orders of magnitude worse than the others.
Creating the worst global energy crisis in human history. Severely punishing every country, especially poor people paying higher fuel cost…..for every form of transportation. Food inflation. Reduced economic growth. Global losses in the 10s of trillions of dollars. Thousands of deaths of innocent people in Iran directly from bombs dropping but additional deaths that occur from the increase in global energy poverty.
Betraying the people and his own country to follow the leader of another country, Israel and that leaders(Netanyahu) agenda.
This is not an OPINION or speculative. I just showed you the indisputable proof! 2+2=4!
There aren’t words strong enough to describe how despicable this man is.
This is just one of thousands of examples, though it’s by far the worst.
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Think that this thread is antisemitic because you don't know me? Please think again using an open mind and the truth.
Antisemitism is WRONG!
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Started by metmike - April 23, 2024, 11:36 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/103460/
Re: Re: Israel committing genocide in Lebanon
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JewishPeople
Started by joj - Aug. 21, 2023, 7:43 a.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/98420/
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Started by metmike - Oct. 17, 2023, 4:15 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/99752/
Trump just claimed that "we bombed Iran just in time to prevent them from having nuclear weapons".
That the blockade is working exactly as planned and "Iran is dying to make a deal"
Touting the new highs in the stock market (rich person's Ponzi Scheme) as confirming that his agenda is AHEAD OF SCHEDULE and this proves it. Nobody ever thought we could make record highs in the stock market like this. 50 new highs in just my first year.
Meanwhile, back in the real world, the worst global energy crisis in history is punishing EVERYBODY in the world.
He just called Hakeem Jeffries a low IQ person 2 different times. This is one of his favorite attacks on blacks and women. Claimed that all the democrats want to defund the police so that criminals can control our country.
Now he's bragging several times about how he settled 8 wars and got no credit. He should have received the Nobel Peace Prize...........but that never mattered to him. He saved between 30 to 50 million lives in just the Pakistan war..
Those are just a few of his 100% DELUSIONAL statements.
Now he says that he didn't ever need help with Iran from our NATO partners and he was just testing them to see if they would do it. He says that he saved NATO from Iran's nuclear weapons and they are all ungrateful.
Bashing Germany especially as having a bad leader and a failing country (because that leader spoke out against him several days ago).
He said: "Everything in Iran is going perfectly, according to plans"
This guy clearly has a diseased brain with progressive dementia and is sadly the most powerful person in the world.
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Just read the authentic facts above to see how the nuclear weapons threat to justify this war was completely manufactured!
Iran was nowhere close to a nuclear bomb, experts say
March 11, 2026
Although President Trump has claimed Iran was weeks away from developing a nuclear weapon, much more work was needed for the country to do so
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/iran-was-nowhere-close-to-a-nuclear-bomb-experts-say/
Confusion on whether Iran truly needed only “two weeks to four weeks” to make a nuclear weapon, as President Donald Trump suggested on Monday, hangs over the ongoing U.S. and Israeli war on the Persian Gulf nation. Nuclear experts call this claim unlikely—but the confusion may stem from some basics of atomic chemistry.
“There was no evidence that Iran was close to a nuclear weapon,” says Jeffrey Lewis of the James Martin Center for Nonproliferation Studies at the Middlebury Institute of International Studies. His comment echoed those of other experts after the war’s start, as well as statements from International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) chief Rafael Grossi at that time and in 2025 and last year’s “threat assessment” report by U.S. intelligence agencies.
Nevertheless, most experts regard a retrieval raid to Iran as “rather fantastical,” Wellerstein says. “Certainly, it would require more forethought and planning than the Iranian war has exhibited so far.”
Shawn Hannity on Fox tonight insisted that it was the Obama nuclear deal that caused all of this . The only reason Iran enriched uranium was because President Obama's deal intentionally let them cheat. Obama filled a plane with tens of billions of dollars that he sent to Iran to fund their terrorist regime as part of the deal
Even if you knew nothing about the authentic facts, this doesn't even make sense! Only minds captured in a MAGA cult would believe insane whoppers like this.
Hannity claimed that he talked with a dozen credible people and every single one of them insisted that Donald Trump had no choice but to attack Iran because they were on the verge of having a nuclear bomb
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By metmike - Oct. 19, 2025, 11:20 a.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/112540/#115319
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Sean Hannity is exaggerating and taking the cash Iran got in 2016 out of context:
Thanks for correcting Hannity and showing the facts, Larry!
After initially telling us that this was about regime change and revenge for things Iran did to us many decades ago, Donald Trump, then changed his messaging and it was confusing. However, for numerous weeks now, he's been locked in on the fake, imminent threat from nuclear weapons. Repeating that many hundreds of times since then.
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Suddenly, literally overnight the message changed last night on the Hannity show on Fox.
May. 15, 2026
Trump says that Iran giving up its highly enriched uranium isn’t “necessary.” Wait, what?
https://www.ms.now/opinion/trump-iran-uranium-necessary-public-relations
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Thursday, May 14th on Fox News:
Lawrence: The tortured soul of Trump's lying & incompetent Treasury Secy. was on display again today
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7zmu2aylBc
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This wasn't the first time that Donald Trump committed treason by breaking with our own intelligence and cancelling the hard fought, very effective JCPOA Obama Nuclear Deal that WAS WORKING, because Bibi Netanyahu told Donald Trump to do it in 2018!
And replace it with.........NOTHING because with that nuclear peace deal in place, Netanyahu was unable to use this false narrative, that he's been using for 30 years to justify attacking Iran:
https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/netanyahus-bomb-chart-steals-the-show-in-his-un-speech/
Image originally published September 28,2012 at 7:54 pm
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Here's the wonderful Obama nuclear deal with Iran that Lawrence is talking about and the Trump people are lying about. It was working by almost every account, including the numerous countries that signed it and the inspectors that were verifying it in Iran from our country and the other countries on our side....but Bibi Netanyahu told Donald Trump to pull out of it!!!!
For Immediate Release
July 14, 2015
Key Excerpts of the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA)
Preamble and General Provisions
• The full implementation of this JCPOA will ensure the exclusively peaceful nature of Iran’s nuclear program.
• Iran reaffirms that under no circumstances will Iran ever seek, develop, or acquire any nuclear weapons.
• This JCPOA will produce the comprehensive lifting of all UN Security Council sanctions as well as multilateral and national sanctions related to Iran’s nuclear program.
• A Joint Commission consisting of the E3/EU+3 and Iran will be established to monitor the implementation of this JCPOA and will carry out the functions provided for in this JCPOA.
• The IAEA will be requested to monitor and verify the voluntary nuclear-related measures as detailed in this JCPOA. The IAEA will be requested to provide regular updates to the Board of Governors, and as provided for in this JCPOA, to the UN Security Council.
• The E3+3 will submit a draft resolution to the UN Security Council endorsing this JCPOA affirming that conclusion of this JCPOA marks a fundamental shift in its consideration of this issue and expressing its desire to build a new relationship with Iran.
Nuclear
Enrichment, Enrichment R&D, Stockpiles
• Iran’s long term plan includes certain agreed limitations on all uranium enrichment and uranium enrichment-related activities including certain limitations on specific research and development (R&D) activities for the first 8 years, to be followed by gradual evolution, at a reasonable pace, to the next stage of its enrichment activities for exclusively peaceful purposes.
• Iran will begin phasing out its IR-1 centrifuges in 10 years. During this period, Iran will keep its enrichment capacity at Natanz at up to a total installed uranium enrichment capacity of 5060 IR-1 centrifuges. Excess centrifuges and enrichment-related infrastructure at Natanz will be stored under IAEA continuous monitoring.
(Note: Iran currently has about 19,000 IR-1 and advanced IR-2M centrifuges installed)
-- Based on its long-term plan, for 15 years, Iran will keep its level of uranium enrichment at up to 3.67%.
(Note: Prior to the Joint Plan of Action, Iran enriched uranium to near 20%)
-- Iran will refrain from any uranium enrichment and uranium enrichment R&D and from keeping any nuclear material at Fordow for 15 years.
(Note: Iran currently has about 2,700 IR-1 centrifuges installed at Fordow of which about 700 are enriching uranium)
• Iran will convert the Fordow facility into a nuclear, physics and technology center.
• 1044 IR-I machines in six cascades will remain in one wing at Fordow. Two of those six cascades will spin without uranium and will be transitioned, including through appropriate infrastructure modification, for stable isotope production. The other four cascades with all associated infrastructure will remind idle.
• During the 15 year period, Iran will keep its uranium stockpile under 300 kg of up to
3.67% enriched UF6 or the equivalent in other chemical forms.
(Note: Iran currently maintains a stockpile of about 10,000 kg of low-enriched UF6)
-- All other centrifuges and enrichment-related infrastructure will be removed and stored under IAEA continuous monitoring.
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metmike: What happened to that excellent deal that took over a year of negotiating AND WAS WORKING, ACCORDING TO ALL SOURCES.........EXCEPT NETANYAHU(who told Donald Trump to pull out of it).
Israel told Donald Trump to pull out of the Obama Nuclear Deal!
U.S. Decision to Cease Implementing the Iran
Nuclear Agreement
Updated May 9, 2018
https://www.congress.gov/crs_external_products/R/PDF/R44942/R44942.21.pdf
Summary
On May 8, 2018, President Donald Trump announced that his Administration would cease
implementing U.S. commitments under the 2015 multilateral Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action
(JCPOA) with Iran and reimpose all U.S. sanctions that were in place prior to the JCPOA. His
announcement made reference to his previous statements on the issue, including an October 13, 2017, announcement of U.S. strategy on Iran and a January 12, 2018, statement pledging to leave the agreement unless Congress and U.S. allies acted to address the full range of U.S. concerns on Iran. In his May 8 and earlier statements, President Trump asserted that the agreement does not address the full range of potential threats posed by Iran, or permanently ensure that Iran cannot develop a nuclear weapon. President Trump also again asserted that the JCPOA provided Iran with additional financial resources with which to pursue its ballistic missile program and support its regional “malign activities.” In his May 8 statement, President Trump indicated that reimposed U.S. sanctions would succeed in pressuring Iran to renegotiate the JCPOA to accommodate Administration demands.
President Trump’s May 8 statement also implied that, based on an early May presentation by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, Iran has not abandoned an intent to ultimately develop a nuclear weapon. (metmike: This was a previously proven lie).
International nuclear inspectors, as well as senior U.S. officials, have consistently indicated in their reports that Iran is complying with the provisions of the JCPOA.
The President foreshadowed his May 8 announcement with his October 2017 and January and April 2018 refusal to certify to Congress, under the Iran Nuclear Agreement Review Act
(INARA, P.L. 114-17), that continued U.S. sanctions relief to Iran under the JCPOA is
“appropriate and proportionate” to the measures taken by Iran to terminate its illicit nuclear
program. The withholding of that certification did not automatically reimpose any U.S. sanctions on Iran, but gave Congress the opportunity to use expedited procedures to do so. Congress did not act to reimpose the sanctions.
The other powers that negotiated the accord with Iran—Russia, China, France, Britain, and
Germany—have consistently asserted that the JCPOA is succeeding in its core objectives and that its implementation should not be jeopardized. Several European countries have sought to address President Trump’s demands in negotiations with U.S. officials. In late April 2018 visits to
Washington, DC, the President of France and the Chancellor of Germany told President Trump
they want to work with the United States to formulate joint action that would address his
concerns, but they urged that he keep the United States in the accord as a foundation on which to build additional restrictions on Iran. The leaders of Britain, France, and Germany, as well as the European Union, expressed “regret” about the U.S. decision and pledged to work with Iran to continue implementing the JCPOA. Iran’s President Hassan Rouhani immediately reacted to the May 8 U.S. decision by pledging to continue implementing the accord, provided Iran continues to receive the economic benefits of the agreement.
This report analyzes the U.S. pullout from the JCPOA and its potential implications.
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Donald Trump has committed blatant treason!!!!
Started by metmike - May 13, 2026, 8:16 a.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/120200/
One of the few honest people left in his cabinet/circle of Donald Trump adulators resigned because of this:
Tulsi Gabbard resigns
Started by metmike - May 22, 2026, 3:13 p.m.