Important note added to start this thread:
We owe everything to our brave soldiers. They will do things that the rest of us won't or can't for our democracy. Putting their lives on the line to serve our country.
They should always be put on a pedestal and treated special, just for their willingness and commitments to serve our country in this manner.
Sadly, our politicians have USED them to serve the Military-Industrial-Political complex for numerous decades.
Donald Trump is not the first one to do it. However, he's the latest and worst. He is egregiously abusing our soldiers illegally to blatantly violate International Laws and the Constitution. Kill innocent people. Turn our allies against us. Create the worst global energy crisis in history. Fight a war that Americans are against. Cost tax payers more than $50 billion and counting. Result in inflation ramping up and gas prices +$1.50/gallon. Draw down our weapons reserve and make us less secure.
Creating an environment of low moral, low quality of life and personal hardships that include excessively long separations from their families and neglecting their basic needs as human beings.
For an objective that is a complete lie!
Iran nuclear weapons false narrative(s)
Started by metmike - April 25, 2026, 9:07 a.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/119788/
A common theme being employed by this administration, especially Pete Hegseth, the head of the renamed, Department of WAR is that people that speak out against this unjust war are unpatriotic because they are against our soldiers fighting in this unjustified, illegal war as opposed to Pete Hegseth and Donald Trump who send our brave, patriotic soldiers to fight in this unjustified war.
We are told that because Trump and Hegseth USE(abuse) the military, that means they are FOR the soldiers. And absurdly, this somehow equates to them being for those soldiers best interest and people that disagree are rooting against our soldiers and are anti patriotic and even "treasonous" to use Donald Trump's word.
I'll show you in this thread why it's the 180 degree, diametrically opposed polar opposite of that!!!
Previous most related threads:
Hegseth testimony 4-29-26
Started by metmike - April 29, 2026, 4:07 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/119891/
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I will build on the AUTHENTIC facts at the 1st thread above that PROVED the main justification for this war.........that Iran was on the verge of having nuclear weapons that threatened it's neighbors, Europe and soon after that, the United States was and is completely false. There was no justification for the United States to attack. Unprovoked and against International Law using the most powerful military in the world.
This is clearly an unjustified war as well as a war that the majority of Americans strongly disapprove of and the vast, VAST majority of the people in the world STRONGLY disapprove of in the most profound manner.
We haven't been able to generate support from even 1 ally to join us. In fact our allies and the world speak out against us with regards to this war.
Allied Countries helping Trump ZERO!
Started by metmike - March 18, 2026, 7:57 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/118814/
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Why wouldn't they be speaking out strongly against the United States for this war? Of course they would!!!!
Worst global energy crisis in history and getting even worse every day!
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/119646/#119919
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How in tarnation are we even in a war like this that makes absolutely no sense on any level?????????
The specific, authentic fact based answer is here:
How Netanyahu used Donald Trump for his war
Started by metmike - April 10, 2026, 4:10 p.m.
Donald Trump, yesterday came out with one of his typical comments about this:
“Not a Quagmire”: Hegseth Defends Iran War in Fiery Congressional Clash
In addition, the cost from this war to tax payers is enormous, likely already over 50 billions dollars and counting.
Inflation is ticking higher thanks to fuel costs that are as much as $2/gallon high now compared to earlier this year.
The advertised price at the gas station by my gym last evening was $4.79/gallon which is $2 higher than it was in February!
All these negatives. One after another after another after another with ZERO benefits to people in this country and the world(other than Israel).
And who did Donald Trump send in to do HIS dirty work for HIS agenda?
He USED our brave, patriotic, loyal soldiers and the most powerful military in the world to do something extremely bad and extremely wrong.
He and Hegseth ordered them to kill people, many of them innocent children and women, destroy tens of thousands of buildings, some with architecturally historical significance, along with hospitals and schools/colleges. Collectively punish 90 million people in Iran. Violate International Laws and the Geneva Convention as well as the US Constitution. Act against the will of the people (betray) and our democracy. Greatly harm the planet/environment. Escalate political division and hate in our country and around the world.
And for a completely manufactured reason! Donald Trump did this for Donald Trump who is controlled by Bibi Netanyahu.
Unfortunately, Donald Trump controls the most powerful military in the world!
How is this being for our soldiers fighting this war???? Is that what they actually signed up for? These are not just robot soldiers that are not allowed to know what the entire world thinks of this completely unjustified, unprovoked, law breaking operation?
But it goes so much farther than that!
How many fathers and mothers in the military would chose being stuck in this unjustified quagmire over being at home with their wife, children and families? Donald Trump and Pete Hegseth are separating military families for their personal agenda.
How many parents want their sons and daughters to fight an unjustified war? To risk their lives fighting Donald Trump's war?
How many brave soldiers with A CONSCIENCE will be haunted for much of their lives by the fact that they killed so many innocent people without justification????
6-3-26: Added: How many soldiers know that the vast, VAST majority of people in the world view their actions as being really bad and wrong? Most Americans KNOW what they are doing is bad and WRONG and reject it strongly.
The men and women in our military WANT TO DO THE RIGHT THING, while serving our country! That's exactly what they signed up for. At the very least, we owe it to them to use them TO DO THE RIGHT THING!
https://academic.oup.com/qjmed/article/117/3/163/7320020
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How can sending our brave soldiers to Iran possibly be FOR the men and women in our military?????
They are being used, similar to the way that Putin uses his soldiers with the main exception being that Donald Trump isn't getting them slaughtered like flies because even our morally bankrupt, bought and paid for (by the Military-Industrial-Political-Jewish complex) politicians enabling this know that would be completely unacceptable.
My position and many other PATRIOTIC Americans is to profoundly RESPECT our troops.
Treat them like human beings, not pawns/units to use for the political agenda of a psychopath and his minions that he appointed to serve him only.
Use our brave soldiers when using them is justified. Using them for the reasons they signed up for. NOT putting them in harm's way needlessly unless that's justified.
Respecting their emotional needs and their huge families.
Not treating them like killing and destroying robots to serve the president of the United States with his completely unjustified war in Iran and many other bombings around the world.
Trump's bombing countries illegally
Started by metmike - March 4, 2026, 8:45 p.m.
https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/118393/
Dear Donald Trump and Pete Hegseth: Please stop the blatant hypocrisy with your war and global bombings. Pretending that you care for our troops when you are blatantly using and abusing them for your personal agenda's. Then, ironically, condemn patriotic Americans like me that actually DO care about our wonderful soldiers. We speak out FOR THE SOLDIERS and against you guys.
We owe everything to our military. Our brave soldiers will do things that the rest of us won't or can't for our democracy.
They should always be put on a pedestal and treated special, just for their willingness to serve our country.
Sadly, our politicians have USED them to serve the Military-Industrial-Political complex for numerous decades.
Donald Trump is not the first one to do it. However, he's the latest and it's 2026.
At least America has learned to not sacrifice thousands of brave soldiers lives in quagmire wars that accomplish nothing. Mainly because we are SO powerful that we can just drop thousands of huge bombs on whoever we want with impunity.
That is far from making it right!
This really is all about what is right and what is wrong, not political party.
Made changes to the top of this thread:
Our brave soldiers risk and give up their lives for the United States of America and this is what their commander and chief DID TO THEM and our country!!!
Donald Trump has committed blatant treason!!!!
Started by metmike - May 13, 2026, 8:16 a.m.
Donald Trump and Pete Hegseth pretend to be for our brave soldiers.......as they abuse them for their political agenda and crap on them.
The entire families of those in the military have suffered from Donald Trump's counter productive war in Iran as they were stationed in the Middle East because of this war.
The vast majority of people in the United States are against this war. It's a blatantly unjustified war.
How dare SOB, Donald Trump, who got out of serving in the military by using fake bone spurs, and Fox anchor Pete Hegseth order our military to break International laws, kill innocent people, spend 50 billion in tax payers money, create the worst global energy crisis in history, do something that all non MAGA Americans are strongly against, that had 0 support from our allies. Yes, ZERO support from all of our allies.
Then, cause it to actually empower and strengthen the Iranian regime with the worst deal in history because the worst military leaders in US history. Donald Trump and Pete Hegseth are not qualified to make decisions of any kind, especially those that are blatantly abusing the world's most powerful and best military and soldiers. .
If you HONESTLY support the military, then please vehemently speak out against what Donald Trump and Pete Hegseth are USING THEM for!
If you don't support the military, then please speak out against what Donald Trump and Pete Hegseth are using them for because THEY ARE HUMAN BEINGS, being ordered to hurt OTHER HUMAN BEINGS against International Law, against The Geneva Convention, against The US Constitution and against the will of the vast majority of Americans!
They are being subjected to inhumane conditions that separate them from their loved ones and time off for excessively long periods to serve a lunatic that is using them in a war that he started to serve Israel because the leader of Israel convinced Donald Trump it would be any easy victory and make Donald Trump an historical legend for crushing evil Iran.
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Desperate sailors aboard the USS Abraham Lincoln have tried to jump overboard during an extended deployment in the Middle East, their families say.
The aircraft carrier, crewed by around 5,000 sailors and Marines, has been deployed since November 21 but more lately has been supporting U.S. military operations in the war with Iran. The deployment had been expected to end in May but has been extended with no current return date, families told The Military Times.
Annabelle Loma, the wife of a sailor serving on the Abraham Lincoln, told the publication her husband is now on medical hold after trying to jump from the carrier.
“He’s scared,” Loma said. “He thinks he’ll get a dishonorable discharge and, just because he was burnt out, his 13-year career is ruined, just like that.”
Loma added that she is trying to put on a “happy face” for her children but that she feels like she could “break down” every day.
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To Donald Trump and Pete Hegseth: Stop messing up the lives of our soldiers AND THEIR FAMILIES by subjecting them to extreme conditions. They are human beings, not your slaves to serve your pathological agenda that the vast majority of Americans oppose. You are making them part of what is WRECKING the United States of America and wrecking the world.
These soldiers signed up because they are patriotic and want to serve our country NOT ISRAEL. They want TO MAKE OUR COUNTRY BETTER, NOT to mess it up because of a man with a diseased brain using them for his agenda.
AI Overview
Roughly 5,000 sailors and Marines aboard the USS Abraham Lincoln are facing severe mental health strain. The aircraft carrier has spent over 260 consecutive days at sea on an extended Middle East deployment. Reports indicate multiple sailors attempted to jump overboard, prompting family alarms, congressional scrutiny, and town hall meetings with Navy leadership. Core Issues and Concerns
Navy and Official Response
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Previous post above:
Re: Re: "Supporting our soldiers": false narrative
By metmike - May 2, 2026, 4:01 p.m.
My position and many other PATRIOTIC Americans is to profoundly RESPECT our troops.
Treat them like human beings, not pawns/units to use for the political agenda of a psychopath and his minions that he appointed to serve him only.
Use our brave soldiers when using them is justified. Using them for the reasons they signed up for. NOT putting them in harm's way needlessly unless that's justified.
Respecting their emotional needs and their huge families.
Not treating them like killing and destroying robots to serve the president of the United States with his completely unjustified war in Iran and many other bombings around the world.
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Donald Trump and his unqualified Secretary of WAR, Pete Hegseth don't have the leadership skills to understand the needs of our military or the ability to understand the dynamics to decide on whether to start a war or to put together a cohesive plan on how to get out of the unjustified war that Donald Trump started because he thought it would be a quick and easy win to make himself a Middle East legend and because Donald Trump is Israel First NOT America First.
https://thehill.com/policy/defense/6028091-pete-hegseth-uss-abraham-lincoln-conditions-middle-east/
“The Lincoln is not an isolated case. Recent carrier deployments have repeatedly stretched beyond their original anticipated durations, suggesting that extended deployments may be becoming a feature rather than an exception of the Navy’s force-generation model,” Blumenthal wrote.
And Sen. Ruben Gallego(D-Ariz.) on Thursday called for more scrutiny of the conditions aboard the Abraham Lincoln, demanding an official, bipartisan visit to the carrier.
“It’s clear Donald Trump, who avoided active duty himself, couldn’t care less about the health and safety our service members. Congress needs to do its job and hold this administration accountable,” Gallego posted on the social platform X.
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Who thinks that a person that can't even manage the renovation of a pool and the consequences of it being botched is qualified to make the decisions in an unprovoked, unjustified and illegal war that has turned into a quagmire because of the absence of qualified leadership?
Re: Re: Re: Re: Iran War 8/1/26+
By metmike - Aug. 14, 2026, 9:16 a.m.
https://apnews.com/article/trump-iran-aircraft-carrier-uss-lincoln-023413c38373d4a6ba033612a1f552c6
Donald Trump is incapable of feeling empathy for other human beings.
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VISIT AFSPA U.S. defense official not authorized to speak publicly told NPR the USS George Washington is en route to relieve the USS Lincoln, which has been at sea for nearly nine months
Trump was asked by reporters Friday whether the USS Lincoln's deployment had gone on too long.
"No, not nearly long enough," Trump said.
Trump tells CNN reporter to 'be quiet' during Oval Office clash
Did Trump post AI image of himself with Generals Patton and MacArthur?
Some people online accused the president, who has never served in the U.S. military, of stolen valor.
A screenshot authentically showed a Truth Social post on U.S. President Donald Trump's account featuring an image depicting him with World War II Generals George Patton and Douglas MacArthur.
Rating: 
True
Context
Trump posted the AI-generated image of him standing between the two generals on Aug. 4, 2026. His intended message was unclear.
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metmike:
The 1 thousandth+ piece of evidence that Donald Trump's diseased brain lives in a completely delusional world that features Donald Trump as a legionary, omnipotent, Godlike leader which he is unable to separate from the real world and makes him completely unqualified to be the president of the United States!!!
Sesame Street: One of These Things is not like the other!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsRjQDrDnY8
If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, quacks like a duck, tweets like a duck, starts wars like a duck, betrays his country/commits treason like a duck, imposes ruinous tariffs like a duck, turns their country into a pariah like a duck, lies like a duck, breaks laws like a duck, flagrantly concocts self enriching, corrupt schemes like a duck, covers up the evidence of his predatory behavior during his 15 years as best friend with Jeffrey Epstein like a sick duck...........it's Donald Trump!!!!!!!
Donald Trump's Diagnosis NAILED!
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Started by metmike - April 6, 2026, 9:44 p.m.
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