Alternative crops
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Started by mcfarmer - Feb. 28, 2019, 7:25 p.m.

Since I quit the cows I’ve been selling the hay I produce. This last year it was by far the most profitable crop I had. Recent sales have been in the $200/ton with yields of 3-4 tons/acre. Costs are maybe $200/acre


So I  made arrangements to put  in a few more acres for next year. Now, most farmers aren’t going to be very excited about the work hay making involves, and the marketing is a little more difficult.


But anyway, in this little corner of paradise there will be a few more acres of hay and fewer acres of soybeans.


How widespread shifts like this will be, who knows.

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By metmike - Feb. 28, 2019, 8:35 p.m.
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mcfarmer,

What plants do you use in the hay that you grow?

By mcfarmer - Feb. 28, 2019, 8:38 p.m.
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Alfalfa, orchardgrass and canary grass.


Most use around here is for beef herds, straight alfalfa isn’t needed and the grass in the mix aids in drying and yield.

By metmike - Feb. 28, 2019, 10:09 p.m.
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Since you mentioned having your best year every by far last year, I just thought of checking out how the increase in CO2 benefits these particular plants.

You can go to the link below to look up hundreds of plants with many thousands of studies. I believe this particular site has more of them listed than any other link in the world. 

http://www.co2science.org/data/plant_growth/dry/dry_subject.php


Alfalfa below. 89 studies with an average increase in biomass of 37.3% when the CO2 was elevated by 300 ppm.


http://www.co2science.org/data/plant_growth/dry/m/medicagos.php


Medicago sativa L. [Alfalfa]

     


Statistics                                                                                                                                                  

             300 ppm
          
            600 ppm
          
            900 ppm
          
 Number of Results            89
          
             
          
            2
          
 Arithmetic Mean            37.3%
          
             
          
            64%
          
 Standard Error            3.6%
          
             
          
            0%
          


Orchard grass below:

http://www.co2science.org/data/plant_growth/dry/d/dactylisg.php


Dactylis glomerata L. [Orchardgrass]

     


Statistics                                                                                                                                        

             300 ppm
          
            600 ppm
          
            900 ppm
          
 Number of Results            15
          
             
          
             
          
 Arithmetic Mean            18.3%
          
             
          
             
          
 Standard Error            4.3%
          
            


Canary Grass below:

http://www.co2science.org/data/plant_growth/dry/p/phalarisar.php


Phalaris arundinacea L. [Canary Grass]

     


Statistics                                                                                                                                                  

             300 ppm
          
            600 ppm
          
            900 ppm
          
 Number of Results            8
          
             
          
             
          
 Arithmetic Mean            34.3%
          
             
          
             
          
 Standard Error            12.1%
          
             
          
             
          


These numbers above are not as impressive as many plants actually............which benefit even more with the enriched CO2 environment. 

Soybeans for example were a whopping +48.3% :

Glycine max (L.) Merr. [Soybean]

     


Statistics                                                                                                                                                  

             300 ppm
          
            600 ppm
          
            900 ppm
          
 Number of Results            238
          
            25
          
            3
          
 Arithmetic Mean            48.3%
          
            71.2%
          
            61%
          
 Standard Error            2.4%
          
            7.9
          
            11.3%
          


I was thinking that the reason for that might be that canary grass, orchard grass and alfalfa use the C-4 pathway, which does not benefit as much from increasing CO2 as do plants using the C-3 pathway, like soybeans. 

However, it looks like they are all C-3 plants. There is quite a range from plant to plant in the benefits from increasing CO2, so it's not surprising. 


By mcfarmer - March 1, 2019, 1:02 a.m.
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Mike, 

Sorry, I didn’t mean to imply last year was my best ever, just that the hay crop was my best crop last year.

Those grasses are non-native cool season grasses, which are all generally C3. Native, warm season grasses are C4. 

Our son is doing reasearch on native grasses. I mentioned before his lab uses a growth chamber in which they are trying to predict which species of native grass will respond best at higher CO2 levels.

So if we accept higher CO2 levels increase growth, given all other factors are adequate, how will the climate change influence rainfall ? In addition to amount of rainfall, the timing and distribution are also important.


Thanks.