Oil Top
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Started by Richard - April 13, 2019, 7:54 a.m.

Reduced my position in oil on Friday and think I may go net short on Sunday night. Anyone else seeing a nice oil dump coming. Maybe $60 even maybe $58?

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Re: Oil Top
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By Richard - April 13, 2019, 11:36 a.m.
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The more I look at Gold and Silver the more I think they are going to dump also. I did a decent amount of selling on Friday and plan on selling more on Sunday night. Oil I feel confident about so I am going to have a net short position in oil (I am long a Dec 2020 and Dec 2021 mini WTIC. No need to sell them, I will just sell a May WTIC, or perhaps a few May's) With Gold and Silver it can be more tricky. Goldman likes to fake everyone out, and they move so erratically especially compared to oil, imo. Just typing thoughts. good luck trading.

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By metmike - April 13, 2019, 5:35 p.m.
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Russia, OPEC may ditch oil deal to fight for market share: Russian minister


https://kfgo.com/news/articles/2019/apr/13/russia-opec-may-ditch-oil-deal-to-fight-for-market-share-russian-minister/


MOSCOW (Reuters) - Russia and OPEC may decide to boost production to fight for market share with the United States but this would push oil prices as low as $40 per barrel, TASS news agency сited Russia's Finance Minister Anton Siluanov as saying on Saturday.

"There is a dilemma. What should we do with OPEC: should we lose the market, which is being occupied by the Americans, or quit the deal?" Anton Siluanov, speaking in Washington, said, TASS reported.

"(If the deal is abandoned) the oil prices will go down, then the new investments will shrink, American output will be lower, because the production cost for shale oil is higher than for traditional output."

Siluanov said oil prices could drop to $40 per barrel or even less for up to one year.

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By metmike - April 13, 2019, 5:37 p.m.
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The Price of Crude Oil is Rising: Supply Constraints Likely to Emerge


https://moneycheck.com/the-price-of-crude-oil-is-rising-supply-constraints-likely-to-emerge/


Crude oil has been on a tear since the beginning of 2019. Like most assets, crude oil was sold during the last quarter of 2018, when a fit of furious liquidation hit just about every market on earth. That trend has reversed, with WTI up around 40% so far in 2019, and Brent up more than 30%.

Unlike gains in global equities, rising oil prices are starting to hurt consumers and businesses. People have to pay for products which are refined from crude oil, which puts pressure on just about everyone in the economy.

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By joj - April 15, 2019, 8:33 a.m.
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Richard,

On what do you base your opinion that Oil has topped?  

Thanks

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By Richard - April 15, 2019, 11:13 a.m.
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This is NOT a Intermediate term and DEFINITLY NOT  a Long Term top. This is ONLY a SHORT TERM TOP. So lets get that straight. I am still looking for $200 WTIC in the Intermediate term and $350 long term. 

Now back to short term, I am looking at Movements by Goldman Sachs and open interest on the daily, along with the RSI on 1 hour and daily. Also use moving averages on both time frames with also the weekly chart. On the weekly chart we went through the 50 week ma without a pause and I think that we need to go back down below it and maybe touch the lows of the week that we went through it. the lows of that week were around $60. That is another $3.50 to go for a total of $4.70  that much down side seems worth writing about and calling it a short term top. Maybe even $58ish. Not looking for lower then $58.

By Jim_M - April 15, 2019, 12:39 p.m.
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I guess you have to ask yourself, why would Russia and OPEC commit financial suicide to save market share?  SA makes far more money selling 9 MBBls of oil at $80 than they would selling 10 MBBls at $40.  

I think any talk of increasing output is just jawboning to keep the price from exploding.  To that point, we haven't even seen any impact yet in US oil storage yet.  Despite the noise that Russia is making, I'll be surprised if we see anything done by the end of the year.  I think it's going to be the new normal with OPEC sticking around 30mbbls a day.  

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By Richard - April 15, 2019, 3:07 p.m.
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I totally agree that it is just jaw boning, but the question I have for you, do you really think that this jaw boning is't all part of a Goldman plan and that they are reducing longs, while at the same time having bla bla comments come out. The new media is all controlled so we the people would not know or read about it unless it was all preapproved. I follow Goldman Sack and they are creating  all the hoopla.

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By Jim_M - April 16, 2019, 1:41 p.m.
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Anything Goldman says has to be taken with a grain of salt.  They are protecting their own interests of course.  Until OPEC says they are increasing output, I would stay long.  They aren't going to be fooled by Trump again.  He pulled a fast one on them last time with Iran oil waivers.  I'm sure that couldn't have made them happy.  

Re: Oil Top
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By Richard - April 16, 2019, 6:19 p.m.
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Oil is much stronger then I was anticipated and I am flat. >Long gold and silver from this morning. happy trading.

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By Jim_M - April 16, 2019, 8:45 p.m.
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I guessing OPEC is shooting for $80 Brent and until they say otherwise.....

By metmike - April 18, 2019, 12:17 a.m.
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https://www.investing.com/economic-calendar/eia-crude-oil-inventories-75


Latest Release Apr 17, 2019    Actual-1.396M  Forecast-1.200M    Previous7.029M


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

Release DateTimeActualForecastPrevious
Apr 17, 2019 10:30-1.396M-1.200M7.029M
Apr 10, 2019 10:307.029M2.294M7.238M
Apr 03, 2019 10:307.238M-0.425M2.800M
Mar 27, 2019 10:302.800M-1.100M-9.589M
Mar 20, 2019 10:30-9.589M0.309M-3.862M
Mar 13, 2019 10:30-3.862M2.655M7.069M


By metmike - April 18, 2019, 12:17 a.m.
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Weekly US ending stocks of crude oil. 

https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=WCRSTUS1&f=W

          


        

Weekly ending stocks for unleaded gasoline. 

https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=WGTSTUS1&f=W

                                    


                                             

             

Weekly US ending stocks for distillate fuel oil(heating oil-especially used in the Northeast). 

https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=WDISTUS1&f=W

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By metmike - April 18, 2019, 12:17 a.m.
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All the energies have historically been very strong at this time of year!

https://www.seasonalcharts.com/classics_rohoel.html

Crude Oil

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By metmike - April 18, 2019, 12:18 a.m.
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Current gas prices:

https://www.gasbuddy.com/GasPriceMap?z=4&lng=-96.591588&lat=38.822395

                                    


Re: Oil Top
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By Richard - April 19, 2019, 9:36 a.m.
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For the first time this year I am totally flat WTIC. While I feel confident that the lows of this past week will be taken out, I also am sensing we may have a nice run to $66 first before heading back down. Will be interesting to see the COT report. I hope with the markets closed it still comes out today.

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By Richard - April 26, 2019, 8:27 a.m.
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It does look like we had a nice run to $66 first, but the dump I was looking for is going on. Not buying yet. Need to get closer to $60.

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By Richard - April 26, 2019, 10:03 a.m.
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check out the daily chart of the USO (Oil etf). we have an island top . . .



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By Richard - April 27, 2019, 11:50 a.m.
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Oil definitely looks lower this week. Ready to buy once all the longs bail out and sell in panic.

By metmike - April 27, 2019, 2:16 p.m.
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Keep us posted on your thoughts and positions Richard. 

Re: Oil Top
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By silverspiker - April 28, 2019, 5:51 p.m.
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..... I was not a position to double down on my strategy here but getting long 32  crude at.   


.....59-32 was a pretty good proposition but I think we're supposed to get long sum < wheer of @ 64.44........

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By silverspiker - April 28, 2019, 6:39 p.m.
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By metmike - May 2, 2019, 2:21 p.m.
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           https://www.investing.com/economic-calendar/eia-crude-oil-inventories-75                                                                                                    

A huge addition to storage yesterday. 

                      Latest Release May 01, 2019   Actual  9.900M   Forecast 1.485M     Previous   5.479M                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          

Release DateTimeActualForecastPrevious
May 08, 2019 10:30  9.934M
May 01, 2019 10:309.900M1.485M5.479M
Apr 24, 2019 10:305.479M1.255M-1.396M
Apr 17, 2019 10:30-1.396M-1.200M7.029M
Apr 10, 2019 10:307.029M2.294M7.238M
Apr 03, 2019 10:307.238M-0.425M2.800M
By metmike - May 2, 2019, 2:23 p.m.
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US launches plan to choke off Iran’s energy exports, casting uncertainty over oil prices

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/02/us-plan-to-choke-off-iran-oil-exports-casts-uncertainty-over-market.html


Key Points

  • The Trump administration  on Thursday stopped issuing waivers that allow several countries to buy Iranian crude.
  • Washington had issued the waivers to prevent global supplies from suddenly dropping and oil prices from spiking.
  • It remains to be seen whether Saudi Arabia and OPEC will fill the gap and how much Iranian oil will find its way to the market.
TOP DONE
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By Richard - May 2, 2019, 3:51 p.m.
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Went back into oil today at $61.50 July.

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By metmike - May 2, 2019, 4:18 p.m.
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Good luck Richard!

Let us know how it goes.

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By Richard - May 23, 2019, 10:56 a.m.
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With being too narcissistic, "Nice Call".